Top 10 Most Anger-Inducing Pinball Machines Of All Time
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- Опубликовано: 30 дек 2021
- SDTM: TOP 10 Most Anger-Inducing Pinball Machines Of All Time
Which pinball machine is the toughest? The meanest? The most unfair? Which ones make you the most angry? And which one in particular do you want to light on fire and blast into space?!?!
SDTM Greg and Zach rundown the Top 10 list of Most Anger-Inducing Pinball Machines of all-time!
Do you agree? Comment below on which games make you want to rip your hair out.
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You guys forgot Fishtales. The game has amazing art, sounds, animations, but is the most brutal game I ever had the honor of kicking.
I have kicked that game too. I got kicked out of an arcade for it. Fish Tales is fast and unforgiving.
I was waiting for that one
Owned a ft, it was frustrating but so fun.
The middle section… 🤮
video starts at 9:33
Next time we will transcribe it for ya :)
@@SDTM as adorable as your banter is, some people might want to know where the title topic begins
#10 - 10:27
#9 - 12:02
#8 - 13:41
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#5 - 18:20
#4 - 20:52
#3 - 24:24
#2 - 27:16
#1 - 30:41
Great video, guys!
thanks!
Been struck by the pinball gods lately and become addicted. Your podcast have been my favorite thing over the past few weeks. Just wanted to extent a thanks for many fun hours. I think I've watched 40 episodes already.
Way too kind thanks Squidmar!
@@SDTM cancel culture isn't a real thing. If it was that asshole Tucker Carlson wouldn't still have a prime time show. Anyways for me Fish Tales would have be my anger inducing table, as much as I like the theme those damned lightning flippers lead to way too many drains and i've heard the only reason the FS pins distributed in America got those smaller flippers(as opposed to just the European ones) is because the Williams warehouse had a bunch of lightning flippers they were trying to get rid of.
Paragon deserves to be at the very top of any "most infuriating games" list. In between the Beast's Lair and the ability to drain the ball between the two right flippers, I have expended a lifteime of rage on that machine. And the most infurating thing about the between the flipper drain is that when it happens, you have nobody to blame but yourself.
I cannot believe Jersey Jack Pirates of the Caribbean is not on this list.
Full plunge on that game throws the ball directly down the middle. I refuse to play it because I have gone 3 balls (more like 6 if you count ball save) and had zero hit a flipper.
Back in the day, my go to tantrum was to knee the coin door on early SS Stern machines. It would cause them to reset.
Coin door bash switches are normally put in by every pin manufacturer to prevent cheaters from getting free games.
This list was spot on. And I like that you explain that an anger inducing pin can still be one of your faves. Nicely done gentlemen.
24:11 I prefer to stay polite, but you cannot imagine how much it beaks my heart to see "guyz" doing that !
For me its definitely BSD, the fact that u get the 3 multiballs and then lose it within 10 seconds... In a way so brutal no other game can do. Fuck that machine, even though its so cool at the same time. 7.5/10
On the Willy Wonka, I changed the right leg and made it a little higher than the left leg. You don't notice it looking at the machine, but it helped in fixing that damn down the middle from the bumpers. It still happens but a lot less. We didn't play it before we bought it, but my wife loves the movie and loved how this game looked. So we got it and she loves it other than that part. It's like when it goes over there you are like please please please don't go down the middle. We do not like bumping our pins, so we can't save it that way. She was probably a few days away from telling me to sell it, but once I did that she is back playing it a lot now. It really is a killer and not sure why they would make it to where it just goes right down the middle from there.
Cool and accurate list. If I were to add one game based on observing location play I would add that Alice Cooper's Nightmare Castle is an anger-inducing game watching people try to navigate the castle with orbit shots that are a bit too tight for the casual player yet so critical for mode progression.
JJP GnR …. Losing massive song jackpots makes me smash the glass with my fist
At least you can earn a massive song jackpot to lose (see my comment lol)
My favorite episode to date. I too identify with pinball Tourette’s. Most notably JJP GnR when for some reason the universe will not allow me to hit the center scope to collect the applause jackpot, and I get so worked up at the agony of defeat when the lights go out and the flippers go dead! But when I hit a huge jackpot it is a similar response…just with joy and excitement. The pendulum swing is from one limit to the other. I wish I could have recorded some of my rants…it really is a form of poetry at times. Great stuff guys.
Yeah that game pisses me off to the core too (Zach)
Oh man, thanks for mentioning AC/DC.
It’s the closest one to me in a laundry mat so when I have some change and want to get a few games in I ply that machine.
Been cutting my teeth on it for awhile and Jesus, man. I’ve had multi ball maybe two, three times. I’ve never been able to get through more than two songs. It’s so difficult.
WOW 2 episodes!!! I thought Christmas already passed!!!!
TWD has to be in the top five. Put TWD at five, Wonka at six and Star Wars at ten and the list is perfected.
JackBot - great Williams design, super fun rule set and fun to play. But the JackBot Visor drains, pop bumpers drain, and if not adjusted perfectly, the Vortex drains.
Would love a Top 10 90s Pins by you guys! Great show as usual.
Well now I know never to buy a second hand machine from Zach lol. Love the top 10 series though.
Man......im hurting for more SDTM...... so yall still do a show together? Me and the wife love the show and just keep watching the same ones over and over hoping for new ones! 🎉😢
So great to see another video so quickly! Keep it up guys!
The list starts at 10:30 if you wanna skip all that crap at the beginning.
Countdown starts at 10:25
Yeah, I had to fast forward to get to the content. Thought I had missed something.
Crazy, I've been binging SDTM on TPN, love the show, love the content. You guys don't look like how I pictured at all, was picturing suits and Rolexes LOL! Keep up the great work
100% Agree on TMNT. If you aren't on your game, you smash posts (I've replaced my post sleeves twice) or the stand ups targets next to the ramps that rocket the ball straight down the middle. The spinning Pizza disc throws balls straight down the middle. Right sling throws the ball into the cavernous left out lane. Steep ramps roll back and go straight down the middle. Turtle van lock bounces around and rejects if you don't hit it clean. The 1-2-3 combo call out seems to pop up constantly. You have 4 turtles, but only 1 is useful if you want to try for a high score. I still own it because when you are on your game and you chain left ramp - right ramp - inner loop - outer loop- turtle van the flow makes you forget for a split second that the game is constantly trying to rob you.
The honorable mention on GOTG is justified too. The Nebula and Gamora cross over shots are great as is the Groot head, one of the coolest looking pinball toys IMO. Those left shots though are all tight (Yondu, Ronin, Rocket) and the over reliance on the far right scoop drives everyone crazy. What saves this pin is that cherry bomb multi ball is a minute of pure insane pinball joy along with the code update that includes all the music and call outs from the movie. Also, my wife won't let me get rid of something that has Chris Pratt on it, so it is basically bolted the the floor.
Pinball anger move - I tend not to swear or hit the machine, but I turn away quick and sometimes swing my arm to punch the air. That's not a problem at home where there is nothing behind me. On location where there are people and drinks and no one has planned for a 6'5 250lb man to spin around because he sucks at pinball, it becomes a problem.
Judge Dredd for me. I own that machine and have never been able to get all 4 judges during multiball. After you drain your 2nd to last ball the mode ends! No extra time like in Indiana Jones. Impossible, but I still love it.
When you said Ghostbusters....I felt that.
😭🤬🤪😠
Great list, haven't played all of them so ill take your words on those. Personally Fish Tales is the one that really pisses me off ALOT! I cant stop playing it when i see it in the wild but man
Nice summary guys, pretty spot on. I'd add the following games to your list as they can also be brutal and anger inducing! Black Knight, Alice Cooper Nightmare Castle, Funhouse, Houdini, Fish Tales, Creature, Simpson's Pin Party, Jurassic Park, Rick & Morty
My favorite episode. My pin Black knight is brutal, so fustrating
Thanks man!
I got the Egyptian clone of black knight
The new black knight? Holy fuck that game is mean. My girlfriend doesn’t even like looking at I she hates it so much hahaha
No no no, it's beatable. Go for multi ball locks right off the bat. There are tricks to lock them immediately.
Dude IRON Man is my number #1 on this list.. I hated Moger popping up and blocking shots when you aren't trying to start him got on my nerves.. I was ready for it to leave after a month and it was gone in 3 months...the magna slings on the GB Prem/LE are made of 100% pure evil!
A lot to dislike with Iron Man, for sure. Good for tournaments I guess...
@Floyd Maxwell That's about the only setting it's good in.. I definitely don't want this one in a 5 game home collection.. It is fine for league and tourneys but thats it.. allot of people love it but I am not in that camp
Love these guys! Thank you
Okay Greg I thought I was the only one who loved/used "Son's of Bitches" from that movie 😂.
Ha ha ha it’s one of my all time favorite movie quotes. 😂 (Greg)
@@SDTM Bumpasses.... I love it when he flips the little turkey wing to the kitchen floor!
If you've got a friend who's never played before, Iron Man is the perfect game to introduce them to pinball... if your goal is to ensure they never play pinball again. Cheap drains aplenty, magnets that yeet the ball down the middle, a _slanted sling top specifically designed to guide the ball into the &@#%ing left outlane_ - Iron Man's got it all and then some. It's precisely the kind of game that convinces most outsiders that pinball is nothing but luck.
Violet turned into a balloon ? Lol. She turned into a blueberry
Yeah but the effect they did in the movie was basically balloon her
I was excited to watch this but can't get through the intro. Later.
Great video and great list - felt very genuine. Wishing you success with your channel!
For me #1 most anger inducing is the JJP Guns n Roses. Every game the first 2 balls are lost within 30 seconds by either slingshot bounce into the right outlane, then by hitting the AFD target next to the left ramp which goes SDTM. Third ball can start a sympathy song with no patches and no balls locked. Average ball time on my game is 86 seconds - I'm sick of posing for pictures while giving the game my middle finger
Gave you a 👍
May I make two mentions of my own? One is "Twilight Zone" by Bally/Midway. The number of "toys" in the center left of the table make it VERY hard to keep a ball in play. Another is a Gottlieb classic called "Central Park". The small flippers make it nearly impossible to get a respectable score.
Uh oh….this list is bound to get some pinball fans angry 😡
This is a very aptly timed video. Recently my kids and wife let me know that they've become frightened as my profanity-laced tantrums can be heard throughout the entire house even with the door closed.
As of November I got my first pin in a Jurassic Park Premium and even I'll admit I'm already a little too passionate about catching dinos. I even had to go full douchebag and buy some cycling gloves with palm protection as I've not yet developed a callous to soften my slap saves. I feel pretty dumb that I scream at a machine but to me these damn outlanes are just not fair even after lowering an outlane post as suggested in various forums. A friggin' eighth of an inch adjustment only made my outdrain go from 95% to 90%. Couple this with the constant nudge battle that only hastens ball death or results in the dreaded drainbow SDTM and I'm just kicking a nearby couch and double birding this machine that I otherwise love and can't stop playing. Then you've got this son of a bitch that's even mocking you as you drain right. Newman! And is it me or does that damn truck always seem to be facing the wrong way when you're firing a homing missile? Lastly I'd add that when you hit your shots this game is a masterpiece of pinball perfection but when you miss by mere millimeters this game is brutal with its instadrains as you clank off some dumbass post again.. and again.. and again.. But I still love it. ❤️
Don't feel bad I have a pair of padded weight lifting gloves lol
Simpson's is anger inducing because when the ball drains within 1 minute there is no ball save, and the ball drains way too easily
adding that Zeppelin drains too easily too I think
Your ranking is thoughtful and reasonable. It was an entertaining list. My list is: 1. Road Show. 2. Ghostbusters( my first Grand Champion) 3.Funhouse 4.Batman Forever ( instant drains on brain drain ?!) 5. Fish Tales 6. Lethal Weapon 3 7. Dirty Harry 8. Jurassic Park 9. The Avengers 10.Deadpool My favorite is World Cup Soccer 94( scored more than 3.000.000.000 lately and Theatre of Magic( more than 2.600.000.000 and Game of Thrones as Baratheon ( more than 2.000.000.000. Dracula is a very hard pinball for me.
Oh damn some great ones in your list!
Totally agree about Star Wars.
I help run an arcade in Utah and we have the premium edition. I've seen games last around 30 seconds. We've even had people ask for a refund because of how cheap that game plays.
I've personally gotten really good at it and know that plunging at full power often leads to a ball drain. I nudge a TON on this one...
Salt Lake City? Quarters? Nickelmania?
That ball save can be maddening… full speed to the left drain… over and over again. Anyone make any system/power changes that minimizes this?
Walking Dead is one of the greatest pinball machines ever. Much like STTNG. Tough, but awesome.
Same with Dracula. Top game.
I remember playing the Ghostbusters pinball machine a few years ago and balked at the $1.00 per game cost alone. The game itself was awful despite the neat looking table, being the epitome of the sludge from the second movie.
Ghostbusters Pro has been my first and only pin. Change the settings and the game comes alive and you don’t mind the drains. My best score was 4.23 billion on 5 balls and the normal factory settings. Greatest game play feeling possible.
Let the tears flow. Lol.. keep the videos coming guys !
I recently picked up a Genesis and oh boy that game is BRUTAL
The only way I have been able to even play that game is moving the outlane posts all the way in with the fattest rubbers I can find.
It has side kickers that shoot the ball AT the outlanes, and the varitarget in the middle slows the ball down and gently guides it SDTM.
Such a punishing game. If there is ever a game to practice slap saves and outlane nudges on, it’s genesis.
Thank you I would get so mad at my TMNT LE, I had to trade it for a Maiden Premium, those ramps are insanely hard I feel like the ramps are like a quarter in off its almost impossible to get in a rhythm and the whole thing is set up on combos.
Agree on TMNT. Got a NIB pro from Zach and it only lasted about two weeks. I realized playing it was just making me mad and I don’t love spending $6k just to get angry.
Walking Dead LE hands down. Sometimes you can blow it up and it lets you know it... But man this game is evil and so good at the same time!!!
Love it. Have the top 3 in the garage right now - we must be masochists in this house. Great video, gents.
Absolutely loved this video guys. Lmfbo!!!! Great list.
Whirlwind?
I just traded my TMNT and am thinking about selling my TWD. Both fantastic games but rage tilt much.
Number 1 was easy to guess but I still own it hey did BKSOR or AIQ make honorable mention? I nominate if they didn't! Another kickass vid dam that was fun!
Odd call on WoZ - maybe because I own it, but its certainly not a drain monster. It has a center post, and even the out lanes allow you to save the ball through mini games (TOTO and Follow the Yellow Brick Road modes). The only gripe I could see is relatively short ball save times. I'd put a few more game on that one for sure... I like all your other picks! I knew Greg would pick Willy Wonka. I think he's traumatized for life on that one.
Also own one and don't find it a drain monster. Pick one up and learn it ! One thing I do find less-balanced to the other main achievements is earning Dorothy multiball; not an easy feat but doable. There are other modes that are rather challenging to complete (accuracy and timed - ugh). But the wife and I enjoy this one and I don't ever see us selling. However, the price of the super-kewl toys is anger inducing 😅
@@justal4844 Yeah its my wife's favorite machine, which is great because I can put more time on the AIQ. WoZ is beautiful, but like most wide bodies, can feel floaty and slower paced. I find my ball times so long on WoZ that I can only play one game. That's why I found their assessment of WoZ being a drain monster confusing.
Stern Jurassic Park for me. Very satisfying game when you are hitting your shots, but the game will make you pay for missing some tight shots.
Keep the content coming you guys are great.
Wow thanks Chad. And yeah Bone and I aren’t going anywhere. 2022 is gonna be stellar
TMNT Pro was my first pin I got during lockdown after watching your review. I love how hard it is but that sewer Borg drain kills me. Damn Borg bounce 😅
Thank god you guys are back
I can't believe you put Star Wars on the list and didn't mention the end of ball call outs by Yoda. He's one of my favorite characters from the movies, but when I'm playing this pinball machine, I hate Hate HATE Yoda. I wish Stern would come out with alternative end of ball call outs.
The wall next to my Jurassic Park premium has the mark of my knuckle
Bought a Ghostbusters brand new in box.. it lasted 6 months before I couldn’t take it anymore… kinda miss the rage sweats it would induce
Git gud, son
I remember playing it in pinball arcade, made me want to snap my tablet in half after just a few sessions.
Such a good theme and layout but that gap tho
I agree with your number one game, I own a Premium and have a love hate relationship with it. I have to say there have been times I wanted to put that machine on its side I've been so mad at it. But there's so much I like about it that somehow it's still in my collection and probably won't leave. It may just end up on it's side one day, but until that day comes I'll play it and love and hate it!
A few of those games definitely have design flaws IMO. You guys made a great list.
I'm not proud of it, but a couple machines have gotten a fist to the glass. I can neither confirm nor deny that those games are on this list.
Just bought a tna and love the difficulty of the game. It has made me a better pinball player. Glass off I can do 9 reactors.
Agree with iron man even though it's awesome, but twilight zone has to be on this list, especially if ww is ( a later, updated version imho).
I am not familiar with any of the games mentioned but the reasons you guys talk about make total sense, and I'm not surprised to see Stern come up as I never really liked most of their games. I have smashed my fair share and slide back and fourth and yelled enough also. The two things that got me the most was a game that didn't have enough strength in the flippers to complete any shot on the board, even when new. The other thing that pissed me off the most was when the games was set up to tilt too easy.
Great episode guys , happy new year
Happy new year Hans
I made the cut with Last Action Hero!
I remember you guys triggering a lot of pinheads for throwing those off the roof.
Hey y’all new subscriber here. I was thinking about getting the Aerosmith machine and am newer to pinball. At 19:06 you mentioned Aerosmith and not understanding what you’re saying is annoying about it. What are pops and what is the frustration with the Aerosmith game?
Great video! My go to anger move is to shout profanities at the machine and slap my hands together, which makes me look like an idiot!
I started rewriting the Eagle’s Life in the fast lane to Life in the outlanes. The surely make me lose my mind.
Really shocked Rick and Morty wasn't top 5 even after the code update
I have a question, is the Lucy AC/DC the same does it have the same problems ?
The chemistry between you both is special, please don't ever stop making these videos.
Completely nailed it with #1!
Apparently, I like rage inducing games, haha! Most of my favorite pins are on this list!
This is the best episode!
From this list sounds like Stern either has a design problem or isn't testing their machines enough before finalizing their tables. Love that Stern and Jersey Jack are still making new tables tho.
I once played a 2008 Batman that was frustrating. I don't know if this was some unfinished, or modified, cabinet. But, the left side drawbridge looked different, and some side rails were missing from the right habitrail, and the ball would always get knocked off that rail into the right outlane. So frustrating.
Also you didn't mention dialed in, where the theatre just drops it perfectly right down the middle. Sometimes the phone does too, although I love that game too
Most anger inducing machine I have ever played is the Future Spa at the Delaware Pinball Collective... It is not unusual to have at least one player in group play to have 3 house balls.
I love my TWD but the cheap drains out of those pops are frustrating.
Gottlieb... Arena. I've never wanted to burn a game in the parking lot so badly.
Vector. I hate that game so much. Random large points for people who don't know what they are doing and tilt encouraging saucers in the outlanes when the bonus is so important. I hate life whenever I have to play it in a tournament.
Not sure about random large points? I mean, the game rewards shots in sequence. Very specific rules to increase multipliers and so forth.
That said, it was one that I moved along as I found it a bit floaty to play, particularly as you can't set the angle up aggressively as it nils the outlane saves which are quite fun when you have it set up just right.
I haven’t gotten to the end yet and if Twilight Zone isn’t on the list, I think you are overlooking a top 3 for this topic!
Luckily with the Ghostbusters I normally play, I usually feel like I lost the ball because I made a poor shot. But those outlanes suck and the ghost slings make it even worse!
shocked that white water never was brought up
we had a pinball machine in the basement of a college house we lived in. not sure whose it was or why it was there. (1975/6 ish.). just cement block walls with two rooms in the back of the basement. well one room had the machine. the other....the perfect place to throw your empty beer bottle when you missed a shot. by the end of the semester (actually trimester) that room must have had 3-4 feet of broken glass lying in the corner. was a great time!
Hahahaha
Any update on a before/after BP reading for GB?😅
Very surprised whitewater wasn’t here. One of my favorite tables visually but boy is it a pain to play, especially IRL. Virtual versions make it a bit more tolerable. Balls drain or shoot down middle easily. Great table, love the theming, though.
I love Wonka. You can't front on it. It has so many insane multiball modes that just roll in from one to the other. You could have so much stuff going on all at once with that one.
I usually spit out a few choice words but I shove the machine back forth or shove it into the wall. The #1 is absolutely spot on as with most of the list, I would substitute GOTG with AC/DC.
Gregg, got time whilst Stunt Double for John Wick???? Happy New Year to you both and families...Smash 22!!!
Happy New Year to you and your family! Ha ha ha I’m waiting for that John Wick call!!!
Stranger Things. Stand up target to SDTM!
Motordome is good but that turbo charger station took me 2 weeks to hit.
I wonder if any of you guys are familiar with The Black Pyramid, it was in my high school. We would burn that game up, we would play it at lunch and I was late to class daily!