The History of The Addams Family Pinball Machine

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  • Опубликовано: 1 июл 2024
  • In this episode we explore the history of The Addams Family pinball Machine
    Check out my Patreon - / kevincarrington
    Find pinball machines near you: pinside.com/pinball/map
    Chapters:
    00:00 Intro
    01:29 Development and Design
    05:39 Sound and Art
    10:03 Legacy

Комментарии • 181

  • @steve-vc3wl
    @steve-vc3wl 8 месяцев назад +6

    just picked up one for £900 in the uk, fully serviced,, what a bonus

  • @snortingsmarties8363
    @snortingsmarties8363 Год назад +26

    A family member had this pinball machine at his house so whenever I would go as a kid, I'd spend the majority of the time playing this game. It was so entertaining.

    • @KevinCarrington
      @KevinCarrington  Год назад +3

      Wow that’s a pretty cool family member. Nothing like having a game that someone takes care of and plays well

    • @blackdaan
      @blackdaan Год назад +3

      Haha i was amazed by all the lights.. but could not reach the buttons.. now older i started buying myself a pinball machine

    • @JackT_Music_on_Vinyl
      @JackT_Music_on_Vinyl 11 месяцев назад

      I have owned one for several years. Also have a Back to the Future pinball. They're a lot of fun but it helps to know how to service and maintain them. It became a hobby! ruclips.net/video/OiNcKDaMeXE/видео.html

    • @pizzazwned5772
      @pizzazwned5772 8 месяцев назад

      Same! My grandfather had this machine at his house and whenever we went over I would spend hours on it.

  • @Shipwright1918
    @Shipwright1918 2 года назад +28

    One of the greatest, if not the #1, pinball machines ever made. Definitely one of my favorites, so many thanks for this look behind the scenes!

    • @KevinCarrington
      @KevinCarrington  2 года назад +5

      Thanks! It makes me happy to document this beautiful machine

    • @ArtVandelayOfficial
      @ArtVandelayOfficial 2 года назад +1

      Definitely top 5 at least 👏

    • @chrisgardiner2215
      @chrisgardiner2215 2 месяца назад

      PINBOT
      BIG BANG BAR
      TWILIGHT ZONE
      MID EVIL MADNESS
      CLASS OF 1812
      honorable mentions ......... Theater of Magic ....... Star trek (next generation) .......... Black Knight. ........ Black Hole (sentimental reasons)

  • @Tenfresh
    @Tenfresh 27 дней назад

    The woman entangled in vines on the back glass is Abigail Craven / Dr Pinder-Schloss (Uncle Fester’s adoptive “mother” played by Elizabeth Wilson). I only know this because I just finally got around to watching the film for the first time; it’s fun to finally be able to place all the references in the table!
    And I’ll add another voice to the chorus saying that your videos are great; exactly the sweet spot I was looking for between gameplay videos, tutorials, and general pinball history vids! Looking forward to checking out the rest!

  • @GiuseppeRedscarf
    @GiuseppeRedscarf Год назад +4

    One of the best pins of all time!

  • @squelish
    @squelish 8 месяцев назад +2

    I graduated from high school in 92 so this machine was a big part of my teenage years

  • @juanartaza2023
    @juanartaza2023 2 месяца назад

    the best flipper of all times. nobody can beat this pinball. period.

  • @donjaun540
    @donjaun540 10 месяцев назад +1

    My favorite pinball machine. I keep hoping Stern or someone will remake.

  • @Riz2336
    @Riz2336 Год назад +3

    My favorite pin of all time, I used to take my tips I got from work in this pizza place and turn them into quarters and play this for about an hour with a beer. Good times back in the day

  • @JohnGunn
    @JohnGunn Год назад +1

    When I was a kid in the late 90s, there was a community youth center, and we had this game - I sunk SO many quarters into it...eventually I started working there part time, mostly for the perk of being allowed to play it for free any time it was quiet.
    Man. I miss that thing.

  • @Goochbag8
    @Goochbag8 6 месяцев назад

    Seriously, RIP Raul Julia. Absolutely under appreciated.

  • @Kiefy6886
    @Kiefy6886 2 месяца назад

    Never ever played a real pinball machine before. Wish i had the opportunity, i remember playing pinball on Windows XP that came with the PC and loving it

  • @Kdkdkikdk
    @Kdkdkikdk Месяц назад

    Best sideart ever!

  • @impactone
    @impactone 8 месяцев назад

    Great story , my pinball of all time

  • @Grimokan
    @Grimokan 3 месяца назад

    Its intreeting to learn about this game and why it became successful. Since the IP it was base on would also make the Addams as (in)fanous as we know them today.

  • @pleasesavemysoul6096
    @pleasesavemysoul6096 Год назад +1

    My dad got his hands on one of these for about 3500 bucks, and now it’s well used in our house, still hold up as the best pinball machine

  • @leonhardheinzl4341
    @leonhardheinzl4341 Год назад +1

    Thank you so much Kevin. The Addams Family was the first pinball machine I ever played. I always enjoy a play on this pinball machine!

  • @corymyers2249
    @corymyers2249 2 года назад +8

    This is great Kevin. i love all the footage integration and unique explanation of the play field . Keep them coming man! :)

  • @licoricewhip
    @licoricewhip 2 года назад +7

    Thank you for this! Informative and entertaining with high production value. Your videos are really helping me appreciate each table in my VP cabinet.

    • @KevinCarrington
      @KevinCarrington  2 года назад

      Thank you so much! I made these so I could learn more about each table.

  • @strykerking
    @strykerking Год назад

    Great vids! Can't wait to see more

  • @HouseNation82
    @HouseNation82 Год назад

    My favorite pinball EVER!!!

  • @PinballEvangelist
    @PinballEvangelist 2 года назад +4

    Kevin thanks for taking the time to make this video. Addams Family was the game which got me hooked and was my first game. Keep the videos coming. Would love to see a video like this for AC/DC paying homage to Lyman Sheats.

    • @KevinCarrington
      @KevinCarrington  2 года назад

      I love AC/DC. But the underground playfield doesn’t work at my local arcade 😪

  • @ScovellsRock
    @ScovellsRock Год назад

    Man I loved this pinball machine!

  • @branemm25
    @branemm25 2 года назад +2

    Absolutely loving these videos! Keep up the great work. 👌

  • @cruffatinliveth
    @cruffatinliveth Год назад

    these pinball history vids are amazing! please do more

  • @geoffreyblackmer
    @geoffreyblackmer Год назад +3

    Excellent work on this. Love the Addams machine (and the movies). I believe the woman being strangled by plants on the backglass is Dr Greta Pinderschloss/Mrs. Craven from the first movie.
    If you're taking suggestions on what to do next: Funhouse! Funhouse! Funhouse!

    • @KevinCarrington
      @KevinCarrington  Год назад +1

      Ugh I love funhouse. I can’t stop making vids on Pat Lawlor games

  • @EsIstHartmann
    @EsIstHartmann 2 года назад +3

    I'm so glad that I found this channel. It's entertaining, funny, and very informative. I hope the bally Williams twilight zone comes soon because it's my favorite machine and one of the most loved machines ever made

  • @pinballpuppy
    @pinballpuppy День назад

    this table made me realize that I'm very lucky to not have epilepsy 😊

  • @christianthethomasandfrien8257

    8:52 that was pretty creative

  • @marcovirtual
    @marcovirtual Год назад

    Very happy to have seen your video. Thank you for the excellent work! Cheers from Brazil!

  • @InsertDisc2tv
    @InsertDisc2tv 2 года назад +2

    Bro, your unstoppable with these! Keep doing what your doing.

  • @user-vm8ie8oy9f
    @user-vm8ie8oy9f 5 месяцев назад

    Who else yelled "FIF-TY-MILL-ION!" when it shows Koi playing at the beginning haha

    • @juanartaza2023
      @juanartaza2023 2 месяца назад

      tour the mansion complete. fiffffftyyyyy milllliiiooonnnsss

  • @HB-mj2jz
    @HB-mj2jz 2 месяца назад

    I have this one in my small collection of 3 since 2011. Bought it for 1800 euros. Playfield and cabinet is near mint. Was never in arcades i think.

  • @TiltingT
    @TiltingT 2 года назад

    Absolutely awesome video Kevin! Tha ks for the deep dive!

  • @blackdaan
    @blackdaan Год назад

    omfg i subscribed. normally i never do that. but i love these series.. much love for the effort and work you put in..

    • @KevinCarrington
      @KevinCarrington  Год назад +1

      Thanks so much! I hope you are excited to see more

    • @blackdaan
      @blackdaan Год назад

      @@KevinCarrington i know there are some good books about pinball machines. Maybe interesting for your videos..
      For now i have to wait because ive seen all your videos

  • @brandonvoytoski2733
    @brandonvoytoski2733 2 года назад +2

    Keep up the great work. I'd love to see one done on Monster Bash. 🤙

    • @KevinCarrington
      @KevinCarrington  2 года назад

      Oh yea that’s a good one! I’ll add it to the list

  • @jameswilson4426
    @jameswilson4426 2 года назад

    Liked and subscribed, Great production values as always on your uploads :)

  • @ronaldvanmierlo9744
    @ronaldvanmierlo9744 2 года назад +1

    Please, do Banzai Run next keep doing what your doing Absolutely loving these videos.
    Great work👌

    • @KevinCarrington
      @KevinCarrington  2 года назад +1

      Thanks so much! I played a Banzai Run once. I could never get it to the top 🥲

  • @snakeywakey3893
    @snakeywakey3893 Год назад

    My family has owned this one since 2007. It has worked so well and has only had to have major maintenance 5 times (replacing things and the like.)

  • @LeebosPinball
    @LeebosPinball 2 года назад

    Great job! Thanks for making the videos.

  • @ForkLiftCertified
    @ForkLiftCertified 2 года назад +1

    Todd Tuckey from TNT amusement, that dude is a trip :)

    • @KevinCarrington
      @KevinCarrington  2 года назад +1

      I always end up on his page he has an outrageous amount of wacky content

    • @ForkLiftCertified
      @ForkLiftCertified 2 года назад

      @@KevinCarrington are you a fan of GRC on RUclips?

    • @KevinCarrington
      @KevinCarrington  2 года назад +1

      Every once in a while I’ll click on one of their videos with a cute girl in the thumbnail

    • @ForkLiftCertified
      @ForkLiftCertified 2 года назад

      @@KevinCarrington hell yeah bro

  • @Urko2005
    @Urko2005 2 года назад

    Awesome table.

  • @fishgrandpa8369
    @fishgrandpa8369 Год назад +1

    Please do Attack from mars and theater of magic.
    Keep up the good work and your Chanel will explode 👍

  • @Lord7Seas
    @Lord7Seas Год назад +1

    ¡Ohhhhhh que bueno..¡Como me gustaria tener uno asi. Sublime

  • @alZiiHardstylez
    @alZiiHardstylez Год назад +1

    Hey pinball daddy, I'm trying to binge your pinball stuff and I'm not getting enough content.
    I deserve so much more than this.

    • @KevinCarrington
      @KevinCarrington  Год назад +1

      This comment single handedly motivated me to make more

    • @alZiiHardstylez
      @alZiiHardstylez Год назад

      @@KevinCarrington Haha. For real though, I'm really enjoying your videos. I'm not crazy about pinball but this is the vibiest pinball history I've come across. Top tier, very cool, very enjoyable. :D

    • @alZiiHardstylez
      @alZiiHardstylez Год назад

      That deep dive shit dude? That history shit dude? Going into the people behind it type shit dude? Hell yeah.

  • @slob5041
    @slob5041 Год назад

    These videos are fantastic.

  • @Utubereefer
    @Utubereefer 2 года назад

    New subscriber! Awesome video

  • @guitarman42911
    @guitarman42911 2 года назад +1

    Would love to see a video on Funhouse!

  • @SylveonTrapito
    @SylveonTrapito Год назад +1

    It will be again on Pinball FX launch. Finally!

  • @skyfun999
    @skyfun999 2 года назад

    Liked and subscribed, great video

  • @azula4551
    @azula4551 Год назад

    i love this machine it was the first pinball machine that i got a replay on

  • @kevinmarchetti8454
    @kevinmarchetti8454 2 года назад

    Nice work Kev

  • @JMWRainwater
    @JMWRainwater 2 года назад

    Great vid

  • @bzhmaddog
    @bzhmaddog Год назад

    I'll always choose any 90s pinball over newer pinballs

  • @alhodge4051
    @alhodge4051 Год назад

    nicely done

  • @bxdr429
    @bxdr429 2 года назад +2

    Great video. Really looking forward to more if this becomes a regular series. If you end doing Twilight Zone, that would be awesome!
    "Don't touch the door, don't touch the door, don't touch the door...!"

    • @KevinCarrington
      @KevinCarrington  2 года назад +2

      I think Twilight Zone will be next! POWERBALLLL

    • @EsIstHartmann
      @EsIstHartmann 2 года назад

      Tina: Hi, I'm talking Tina.
      Here is your extra ball
      "extra ball turns into a Ballon and Flys Tina into here face"
      Tina: laughs
      This is probably my favorite secret in pinball and laughed for a couple of minutes because I have never seen it before and the machine is so amazing. Best table I bought

    • @KevinCarrington
      @KevinCarrington  2 года назад

      Talking Tina scared me as a child 😳

  • @heene
    @heene Год назад

    I own one of these which has been in storage for about 15 years. I had no idea they are worth so much. I ought to dig it out this year and take a look at it and the others.

  • @ray.a7343
    @ray.a7343 2 года назад

    The best pinball machine by far!!!

  • @bellonwheels726
    @bellonwheels726 Год назад

    Fantastic! Stumbled upon your site and immediately suscribed. Capcon's Big Bang Bar might make an interesting video since it has reached almost cult status. Bur whatever you decide to do next, I have no doubt it will be great. Can't wait!

    • @KevinCarrington
      @KevinCarrington  Год назад

      Oooo that’s a good one. I played big bang bar a couple of months ago. It was fun

  • @Frapskillar
    @Frapskillar 2 года назад

    What a wonderful video about one wonderful table! Could you do NBA Fastbreak next?

  • @elevatoralarmcoasterandarc1214

    This game has become famous.

  • @Segafishy
    @Segafishy Год назад

    Used to play this so much as a kid and sadly not seen a physical version playable since then whenever Ive found arcades that still had Pins here, maybe one day I'll get lucky with space and funds to own one.

    • @KevinCarrington
      @KevinCarrington  Год назад

      Using a pinball app to find machines really helped me locate the random ones at bars and restaurants. It’s really a scavenger hunt now to find games (even harder to find ones in good shape)

    • @Segafishy
      @Segafishy Год назад

      @@KevinCarrington don't really seem to have one for the UK yet, but apparently there is some places in London that I might look into.

  • @coffeeuser470
    @coffeeuser470 Год назад

    Great series!!! Thank you, man
    There are so many Maschines, i want to see.
    Jurassic Park
    Bttf
    Indy
    And Banzai Run, plz

    • @KevinCarrington
      @KevinCarrington  Год назад

      I’ve got to do Indy. Also you’re the second. Banzai Run request so I’ll get that done

  • @will_it_work
    @will_it_work 2 года назад

    Greatest selling pinball game of the modern era. Some pinball titles in the 30's (like Baffle Ball and Ballyhoo) sold north of 50,000 units.

  • @autobotlaserbolt2128
    @autobotlaserbolt2128 Год назад

    You should do videos on Earthshaker and Revenge From Mars

  • @garydinsdale
    @garydinsdale Год назад

    Great video, makes me want to get one. Please do Terminator 2 next!

  • @blakemink1464
    @blakemink1464 Год назад

    Great video series!!! Can we see one on Whirlwind? Feel the power of the wind!

    • @KevinCarrington
      @KevinCarrington  Год назад +1

      I for sure will get all of Pats Williams games done

  • @D0S81
    @D0S81 2 года назад +1

    would you do a history of the Tighlight Zone pinball? its my fav table.

  • @maxhemenway
    @maxhemenway 11 месяцев назад +2

    9:01

  • @Gortman1
    @Gortman1 Месяц назад

    Williams 1979 flash sold 20000 in the US and 4000 in Europe so it actually sold more.

  • @averagerobloxian9077
    @averagerobloxian9077 2 года назад

    7:03 that is Mrs. Craven she’s the main villain of the 1991 movie in one scene she’s trying to look for fester and starts knocking on the conservatory and a vine comes out and pulls her in and lay her in the movie you see lurch find her stuck in a Ravel of vines

    • @KevinCarrington
      @KevinCarrington  2 года назад

      Ohhhh okay I thought it was her but I was not completely sure. Thanks for clarifying!

  • @ajconstantine3593
    @ajconstantine3593 3 месяца назад +1

    Well, what DOES Cousin It say about Angelica in reverse?? Ya left that one out. 🤷‍♂️

  • @ryan489
    @ryan489 Год назад

    This table is avalible with Pinball FX. I mentioned it. On the twilight zone video as well. Zen studios has the rights to many digital willams tables

    • @KevinCarrington
      @KevinCarrington  Год назад

      Really. I just checked pinball fx3 and didn’t see them. I see Williams games but no AF or TZ. Is it possible you had then before they were removed?

    • @ryan489
      @ryan489 Год назад

      @@KevinCarrington Pinball FX is the new version of the game, it doesn't have a number. that game has both the tables

    • @KevinCarrington
      @KevinCarrington  Год назад

      Oh wow no way I’ll check that out. Thanks for letting me know

  • @joety1035
    @joety1035 Год назад

    I have a original mortal Kombat . And when you unlock and take the board that the joystick/buttons are on off and flip it over. You can see under a thin coat of black paint,Adams family pinball art on it. I had the chance when I went to where Chicago to visit the old midway/Williams building . It’s Warner brothers now. But I was lucky enough to talk to a man that has worked there since the midway days . And when I ask him how a factory Mortal Kombat had a piece of wood with Adams family on it. He said they didn’t waste anything..

    • @KevinCarrington
      @KevinCarrington  Год назад +1

      Wow this is an amazing story and I had no idea! Think of all the hidden art that is probably in different games

  • @jsa2145
    @jsa2145 2 года назад

    Just discovered your "hystory of..." videos, very interesting !

  • @godblesstheuk2003
    @godblesstheuk2003 Год назад +1

    ive had my gold for 20yrs...mint and all originala family member

  • @party4keeps28
    @party4keeps28 6 месяцев назад

    For some reason, I remember the chair raising and lowering when I played as a kid, but I've never seen a machine do this as an adult. It's a weird, incorrect memory.

  • @webmonkees
    @webmonkees Год назад

    I'm the proud owner of a 'Addams Family Values' . it's a coin drop game that uses pin parts but not a pin. its spooky, a bit cooky.

    • @KevinCarrington
      @KevinCarrington  Год назад

      I saw that in my research! It does look silly and cooky.

    • @webmonkees
      @webmonkees Год назад

      ​@@KevinCarrington a 100% working AFV is.. annoying, But a enticing homebrew platform.

  • @Bobbytalksaboutstuff
    @Bobbytalksaboutstuff 5 месяцев назад

    Me: Oh my god! Why is this so hard??
    “…Many complain about low gameplay depth”
    Me: LOW GAMEPLAY DEPTH?!!!

  • @InfiniteGameReviews
    @InfiniteGameReviews 7 месяцев назад

    "Belly manufacturing company"? Surely it's spelled "Bally" and pronounced like you're saying "ball-ey"?
    EDIT: Okay, I stand corrected. I listened to pronounciation videos and I'm now officially flabbergasted. I was under the impression that the name was English and reflected the pinball balls, but it was inspired from their first game Ballyhoo...so there was an explanation but I've always thought it was "ball-ey"...seemed to make more sense.
    Well, nitpicking aside, this game made me a true pinball lover. I loved the film, loved the pinball and it's just amazing. Thanks for the history lesson. ;)

  • @filecore
    @filecore Год назад +2

    Great video, I know it's not the 'best' machine, but it sure is for me and nostalgia. Love it.

  • @rodericmege4549
    @rodericmege4549 Год назад

    Hey, please do Hauted House ! ;-)

  • @jaredmorgs
    @jaredmorgs 2 года назад

    Farsight had to change all original likenesses of Christopher Lloyd on the game. So not only the backglass but most notably the image of Fester between the flippers. This coined the term "festering the art" when referring to altering any actor's likenesses on a commercial digital pinball machine recreation.

    • @KevinCarrington
      @KevinCarrington  2 года назад +1

      I took a look at it again and you’re right! Those two images look so similar though, I’m surprised they got away with it

  • @billymadison8036
    @billymadison8036 2 года назад

    Fave

  • @mellydawg
    @mellydawg 2 года назад

    1:44 why no mention on banzai run that was pat lawlors first game

    • @KevinCarrington
      @KevinCarrington  2 года назад +1

      This is true. I did Banzai Run dirty. Time to make a stand alone video to make up for it

  • @DaLizMs
    @DaLizMs Год назад

    1 day I will own this game.

  • @teejay6063
    @teejay6063 Месяц назад

    I didn't realize there was a leaderboard or that you can sign in to play on the digital Pinball Arcade app. I had a good game at 6.3 billion and then looked for a high score leaderboard and saw Tarek Oberdiek has the top score at 84+ billion. Then I found out you can cheat and write code and it all made sense after that. 84 billion my left ass cheek. Mark Miwurdz at 77 billion. Yeah, sure. It's sad greats like that would cheat. Major drop-off after those fake scores to the attainable 20 billion range.

  • @SorcererLance
    @SorcererLance 5 месяцев назад

    This video is mildly dated as after Farsight Studios lost the license to this table, Pinball FX got the rights to it and you can get it right now as of this writing

  • @davidfrischknecht8261
    @davidfrischknecht8261 Год назад

    Fortunately, if you had purchased the table in The Pinball Arcade before they lost the license, you can keep it, even if you upgrade to a new device using the same platform. I'm on my third or fourth Android tablet since they lost the license and it still shows in my purchased tables collection.

    • @KevinCarrington
      @KevinCarrington  Год назад

      Woah that’s interesting! I’ll have to borrow someone’s account to play haha

  • @dennisbraun5747
    @dennisbraun5747 Год назад

    Koi Morris at 0:57

  • @capnarrr
    @capnarrr Год назад +2

    So what does Thing say, exactly? I reversed the sample and slowed it down and still can’t make it out. “Hide your nose I can see it?”

    • @KevinCarrington
      @KevinCarrington  Год назад

      Hahah does it really? I'm not sure, but that would make sense if it that's what it sounds like!. There a couple of different "Thing" quotes said in the pin that I would have to rewind

    • @capnarrr
      @capnarrr Год назад

      @@KevinCarrington ruclips.net/video/T46qVvmD0MQ/видео.html

    • @KevinCarrington
      @KevinCarrington  Год назад

      Sounds sooo creepy I don’t like it 😳

  • @Sir-FryDaddy
    @Sir-FryDaddy 2 года назад

    Can you please do a video on jersey Jack's pirate of the Caribbean. If you want to play a ce version I have one.

  • @MegaFCKforever
    @MegaFCKforever Год назад

    Love the machine, but how is it that this one is the most populair machines if you think about how many pinball arcade machines there is out there

  • @peterherskind3790
    @peterherskind3790 2 года назад

    Get away high speed 2 :D

    • @KevinCarrington
      @KevinCarrington  2 года назад +1

      Love that game! I’m on it

    • @peterherskind3790
      @peterherskind3790 2 года назад

      @@KevinCarrington So do i :D i own one, and i would loooove the history about it. Your content is amazing, and i thought my youtube glitched when i saw that you only had 700 subs.

    • @KevinCarrington
      @KevinCarrington  2 года назад +1

      Awww thanks!

  • @enverhaase8562
    @enverhaase8562 Год назад

    I find it somewhat disturbing that most machines shown are third-party altered, i.e. "modded".

  • @rickpontificates3406
    @rickpontificates3406 Год назад

    AF is a great pinball! But I didn't see PIN*BOT on that top list. That's blasphemy!

  • @bartpinielectrician7564
    @bartpinielectrician7564 Месяц назад

    Why don't they make a new version ,just mad they would make squillions

  • @barkatkhairunnisagilani4969
    @barkatkhairunnisagilani4969 2 года назад

    what happened to the roblox streams

  • @D0S81
    @D0S81 2 года назад

    11:03 whats with the fake number on this. whoevers table this is, the number is very very high res compared to the rest of the image, so i take it fakes are thing.

    • @KevinCarrington
      @KevinCarrington  Год назад

      Woah that’s a very astute observation. You have good eyes. Perhaps it was a reprint or an example

  • @ArtVandelayOfficial
    @ArtVandelayOfficial 2 года назад

    My goodness the machine they're using in the video has rainbow LEDs ....🤢
    Guys please don't put leds in these classic machines it makes them look gaudy and cheap

    • @KevinCarrington
      @KevinCarrington  Год назад

      Yeah rainbow poop is no fun. Although I used a video of someone replacing the Greed bulbs with similar looking leds. It looked really good and is probably lasts longer/easier to maintain. Just gotta be tasteful with it