90% of phones review, or most of tech review is based on initial feeling, performance comparison (numbers), they review also UI and more often than note compare it to iOS as if it's the golden standard in UX. What they lack is the daily feel of the phone, which what most people need. Good reviews so far !!
Exactly for example no one talks about the poor network reception and battery issues on Samsung phones, and most of western "tech youtbers" are just against Chinese phone and praise apple Samsung and google for doing nothing, and their content is just reading the spec sheet and using the phone for like 48 hours
You got the title right. You certainly pissed some people off! I was considering returning my S24 ultra for the OnePlus 12. You saved me from that disappointment and regret. Thank you. My phone doesnt have that delay at all and it would send me back to iphone if it did. I dont remember my S8 or S10 or even my S4 doing that
It's a bug that will be fixed or possibly not even present on oneplus 13's full oxygenos 15. The beta is still a beta and these issues are being worked on as its widely reported. I am thinking of changing my s24u for the oneplus 13 as samsung have dropped the ball recently and willing to change.
@spookish4167 used to be. Oneui 6 is still behind all rivals in fluidity and speed of updates. Oneui 7 is 3 months late, camera still has issues this long after release (blurry motion photos). The S25u is going to be using same 5000mah battery and 45w charging, same m13 panel that is prone to grains and only 1 of the 5 camera sensors being updated. Samsung admits to dropping the ball.
@ThePeanutHunter that's not dropping the ball, since One UI is still the best and most feature rich android skin, 45W is plenty, and the cameras are still considered top tier. Room for improvement, sure. But none of that puts them behind any other manufacturerers imo
@@spookish4167 oneui 6 is still the least smooth skin of all the big 5 android players. Feature wise and customisation wise yes it is great but it's been that way for a while. Oneui 7 is meant to make it much more responsive and smooth, but again it's taken longer than most. 45w is fine for a S23u maybe but for a phone released in 2024 it's not great. The S25u is meant to carry Samsung into 2026 and it's using a 17% smaller battery that takes over an hour to recharge. All the Chinese brands overtaken them technology wise.
the first point im copying from my reply to another guy. About the delay : it's not a bug, it's just how things are on android and even on iPhones. So what happens is, when you move to another app, it gets loaded up from the RAM, the displayed thing you're seeing is a screenshot of the last moment the app was used, NOT the app's current state. I have a Samsung Ultra and have tried iPhones, it's the same. Maybe performance mode on the Oneplus can help it be a little faster? About the vapor chamber : a vapor chamber's task is to take the heat away from the chip and allow it to stay cooler. By dissipating more heat to the body, the phone gets hotter but the chip is actually cooler, the phone getting hotter is the exact point. Look at Gizmochina's Oneplus 12 vs S24 Ultra gaming video, the Oneplus 12 has better frames, can maintain higher performance for longer all whilst being cooler even though it uses more power. ruclips.net/video/TkHvL7v-_f0/видео.htmlsi=-7J-xH9ihBw6DJrz Watch Xiaobai's Galaxy S24 Ultra review and the Oneplus 12 review to see how Samsung compares to other android flagships. The difference in frames is not huge but there IS a difference and it's good for the chip to stay cooler. Idk how or why you think the S23/S24 Ultra are better. They throttle far worse than all chinese phones in games. About the gaming features : The frame booster ADDS frames, the game doesn't allow 99% of phones to go over 60 fps in the settings you chose, that's just how most games are. This feature allows you to add "fake" frames to give the illusion of a smoother game at little cost to input lag. The hyper resolution thing is an AI upscaler, it's not supposed to be perfect, it just tries to make things look better if you want better looking visuals. Competitive gamers don't use max settings, look at Shroud or s1mple's cs go settings. Lower settings lead to higher fps and competitive gamers need that. COD is a competitive game so you're supposed to use Low graphics with the highest frame rates. You're blaming Oneplus for using big words when EVERYONE else uses them, look at Samsung and Google with their AI things what about those? Just bashing a company for being corporate is like making fun of an army guy for doing his job. These phones are made to sell, big words attract people and sell phones. I think you're truly ignorant to have not noticed any of the obvious things and bashing Oneplus for adding features. If you want a "clean" android experience, go buy a Sony phone, let's see if you enjoy a phone with "no useless features". And bugs? I've used Samsung and iPhones and NO phone is free from bugs. How ignorant can one guy be? LMAO I'm not even a Oneplus fan, I think you could've complained about the display not being as good as others or the speakers not being as good as others, maybe even the camera being subpar at times despite the decent hardware, but you chose every point other than those lmao
@@kaiserfakinaway5909 Thank you for taking so much time to share your theoretical findings with us. About the multitasking lag: what you see in the task manager is a screenshot, yes, because if all of the apps in the background were to be held 100% active then there would be chaos for obvious reasons. However, this isn't my first time holding a phone. There isn't as big of a delay on iPhones or even on some other Android phones, including the vivo x200 Pro mini, and so this means access to background apps is slower on the OnePlus 12. I may do a side by side comparison video to show that soon. About the vapor chamber, I would have stood corrected if it were actually the case in real life. First of all Warzone is playable at frame rates above 60 on many devices such as, again, the vivo x200 Pro mini, the Realme GT7 Pro or the newer iPads, so I'm not really sure what this "99% of phones" of yours even includes. Second of all, in terms of stability, I don't care about benchmarks. What I do care about is real life performance. On the OnePlus 12, after playing only one multiplayer match on warzone (about 10 minutes), the framerate drops to 60 (from 90-100 which isn't the highest to begin with) even with adaptive booster on. Besides, the phone gets scorching hot, to the point where it starts to literally burn my fingertips. Like I'm not even exaggerating, it hurts my fingertips. So here's my question: what is the point of keeping the processor a little bit cooler if it physically harms you and it doesn't even help much with performance anyways? And about using big words: I specifically mentioned Apple in the video, too. I do blame every single manufacturer that uses big statements without actually giving them meaning. For instance, Google kind of made fun of benchmark tests saying that their new Pixel 9 series were not designed to beat benchmarks but to actually offer a solid performance in real life. But the problem is, they don't. Even their top-of-the-line 9XL doesn't. So yes, I'd bash Google any day of the week, too.
@@CasualReviewsAK multitasking : The X200 Pro Mini uses faster RAM AND a better chip, comparing these two phones is like comparing the Mclaren F1 and the Mclaren P1 and saying the F1 isn't that good cus it isn't as fast. Phone tech improves massively year over year. And additionally, iPhones have super slow animations, slow animations = more time to do stuff in the background. I have tried it on my Samsung Ultra and did the same thing and the delay is there. Additionally, if you REALLY need to have that speed, turn the performance mode on. You have the choice to do that if you're allergic to any lag. I have it turned on all the time on my phone. It provides faster and snappier animations. vapor chamber : The GT7 Pro, X200 Pro Mini and iPads are all leagues ahead of the Oneplus 12 in terms of processing capabilities. These have newer or more powerful chips. Additionally it's upto the developers to implement the settings. For example, Genshin Impact runs at a higher res on iPhones and even at 90 fps on iPads. The 99% of phones i said meant exactly that. It's just not available, YET. About the performance, the tests i cited were not on benchmarks but rather on actual games like Genshin impact and other demanding games. You're using the refresh rate tool as an indicator for how the game is, it's not accurate. Go use PerfDog and show us the actual frame rate numbers to me and i'll stand corrected. And also, you're using performance mode, the phone is SUPPOSED to push itself to the max in performance mode, maybe turn off performance mode and use cool mode alongside lower settings? LOL, you expect a tiny phone to have max settings 24/7 with no heat emissions? You're ignorant and you haven't watched the vids i told you to. Xiaobai, Gizmochina and Geekerwan have excellent videos on phones and chipsets. If you watch their videos you'll understand. iPhones are more efficient, they use less power yet get hotter. Same goes for Samsung phones. Oneplus, Vivo, Xiaomi and Oppo are basically on par in terms of power usage and/or frames, the only difference is heat management which is better on Oneplus because of the smaller camera systems. That's it. Geekerwan : www.youtube.com/@geekerwan1024 Xiaobai : www.youtube.com/@XBCP and i'll link the Gizmochina video again : ruclips.net/video/TkHvL7v-_f0/видео.htmlsi=Fcya0Q-QLJUJFh10 Watch the Gizmochina video to get the gist of things, the other two go more in-depth, unlike most western/english speaking reviewers, xiaobai doesnt have subs a lot of times so just read the graphs. Anyways let me summarize Gizmochina's vid for you if you're too lazy. The Oneplus 12 had a stable 59.6 FPS output on Genshin Impact whilst using 5.3W of power. The peak temp was 43.2 C and it was spread more evenly throughout the body than the S24 Ultra, the phone was 39.2 C at the center . The S24 Ultra had a 56.8 FPS output whilst using 4.8 W of power, that might seem impressive but the FPS graph shows it was a lot choppier than the Oneplus. What's more concerning is the fact that the S24 Ultra was hotter, peak temp was 45.3 C, 2 degrees celsius higher than the Oneplus, the heat was less evenly distributed yet the temp at the center of the phone was 39 C. So you're getting less performance for a hotter device. I put this part into text : ruclips.net/video/TkHvL7v-_f0/видео.htmlt=354 at 1:45 you can see the fps graphs, they most likely didn't turn on the performance mode so the Oneplus 12 actually throttled and cut the output down to 45 fps at times. The main point here is consistency, Oneplus is either consistently 59/60 fps OR 45 FPS, Samsung goes from 50-60 FPS THROUGHOUT the session. That's not a very good session if you're sensitive to this stuff. To answer your question : It is a choice, you CHOSE to use the performance mode. I wish i had a performance mode on my samsung which allowed me to push it during my competitive sessions and to be able to easily turn it off within a few seconds with the nice game app Oneplus has. You can choose to have a lower power usage setting on the Oneplus. You can either have low power and temps but low fps or high power and temps but with high fps, you can't have all of them unless the chip is overkill for the game, for example the Dimensity 9400 or the Snapdragon 8 Elite are too powerful for Genshin Impact now, phones don't reach more than 39.5-41 degrees, whereas in the past they used to reach 45-49.5 degrees even on gaming phones like Asus's ROG Phone 8 Pro. big words : You used Apple yeah but you didn't mention Samsung or Google who only use big words yet bring little to no improvements. The Oneplus 12 is cheaper than all of their phones yet has 90-95% of their every feature, whilst being better in gaming. My point is, if everyone is bad in a group, why only say one or another is bad? You used Apple as an example, that sets the bar too low. I think everyone uses big words but at least Oneplus doesn't use big words alongside a big price tag. I'm not forgiving them, im just saying it's not AS bad as others, especially Samsung, Apple or Google.
@@Bartekem88 i use an s22 ultra and i can feel a lag/hitch when i multitask quickly, i tried my relatives' iPhones (15 Plus and 14 Pro Max), and the animation is so slow that it doesn't even matter in the end.
Thanks for pointing out things that pretty much nobody else mentions on their reviews. I am having trouble deciding what phone to buy next (Im still rocking a Oneplus 7t at the moment which I love btw) and your video has actually been very helpful.
Yeah, when you start a demanding game, the phone starts heating up, that is exactly what the vapour chamber is for. To remove the heat from the SOC and dissipate it out trough the phones surface to the atmosphere. So the phone gets hot, but the SOC doesnt throttle.
I think some of these bugs are specific to your unit, especially that level of heating up and the lag. The OP 12 has a bi-directional vapor chamber which dissipates heath via both sides of the phone - front and back. It shouldn't be heating up that much. Mine doesn't. And the lag, while unavoidable due to RAM management, also shouldn't be as noticeable as it is on your phone. Perhaps high performance mode would help, but otherwise there's definitely something buggy with the unit itself, and it's not the first time I've heard people mention various bugs on OP 12. Most of them have however been already resolved with one of the older updates, but since yours are still there, I'd be interested to see if things get better with the stable OOS 15 update. I've just gotten it the other day and the phone is incredibly smooth, especially with high performance on and fast animations set...it works flawlessly. Btw, I'm assuming you imported your OP 12 from China since it's white. Maybe this has something to do with the Chinese model, as opposed to the EU/global one.
They'll never figure out and fix it, just upgrade to other huge brand. Every design change they approached in oos15 is not well thought out, the different panels for control panel and notification is a good change, but for such huge screen where it's hard for one to access the top part of screen what good is the new dynamic island micmic? Also it's a remedy for apple's huge camera and face id cut out, OnePlus doesn't have such cut out why then put the bandange where there is no actual wound? Why not try to come up with something new for the punch hole ?
@@venividivici1982 exactly, it's not a bug, it's just how things are on android and even on iPhones. So what happens is, when you move to another app, it gets loaded up from the RAM, the displayed thing you're seeing is a screenshot of the last moment the app was used, NOT the app's current state. I have a Samsung Ultra and have used iPhones, it's the same. Maybe performance mode on the Oneplus can help it be a little faster?
Image upscaling (like OnePlus hyper resolution) won't improve the game assets quality, warzone textures are just that low res and no phone can do anything about it, developers fault. Also warzone mobile already uses snapdragon GSR which is an upscaler added by developers and cannot be turned off, so maybe that's why there's no difference turning on this feature on this game.
I seriously like your style. I do hope you get to the point a little faster in your next video, saying that i did sub so thanks bro. Look forward to the next one!
On my 12R is something definitely wrong with system animations duration... Touches not registered while animation in progress. And it's can't be fixed via dev settings, even when animations completely turned off 😡 in some 3rd party apps touch registering works good. I found some similar reddit threads without solution. With point of view from my good old 7T its feels like 2 steps forward, but 1 huge step to the back
Good comments. The question I have is "How good is the x200PM in your required performance?" Also, OnePlus 12 is "flagship killer" because it is less expensive than other flagships. Then again, are your problems fixed in OnePlus 13 that is available now?
And One Plus even underclocks the processor compared to the competition . So much to save battery and nullify the true flagship performance people paid for .
@aldenthomas5317 Who said anything about benchmarks , One Plus underclocks the processor which hinders gaming experience . 12r,11,11r,12 all are not so great at gaming considering the chipset they are shipped with. Yes normal day to day tasks won't be a problem but someone who's buying it for gaming keeping the processor in mind they will be disappointed .
@@nikhildevani5938 even under clock is way faster than pixel 9 pro XL at peak performance what is your point? The pixel starts at 1099 OnePlus 12 @ 799, high performance mode is just diminishing return. Maybe if they re-brand it to Overclock mode you will feel better.
@@markgutierez9922 Pixels are the worst flagships around when you need performance . And maybe that performance mode should detect that a game is being played and enable automatically . Some brands like Iqoo offer better performance on the same processor and still manage to give almost same battery backup like One Plus ,so what's the need of underclocking a chipset and people never really get to see it's true performance if they buy One Plus .
The lag between apps is very valid, it also happens to me when scrolling comments on IG, FB, or YT, but using Warzone Mobile to test gaming performance makes no sense. That game is unoptimized trash, the Samsung Galaxy S24U can barely play it, maybe try COD mobile, or even emulators like PS2 or GameCube, I play those on my OP12 and upscale 4x resolution with smooth gameplay.
I thought this half second delay on switching apps were common. So you are telling me there are phones without this problem? My new OP12R and my previous Poco F3 have them, even using custom and lightweight roms such as lineageos
To be honest…To be honest…To be honest…What’s that even mean, that except when you say that, nothing else is true and everything you are saying is false?
Still not acceptable as it's a high end powerful processor and mature OS. Is it an annoying bug? Yes. Is it overblown by the uploader? Probably yes. If people don't point these things out they won't be fixed.
Stop nitpicking and use a computer for your "workflow" lmao it's a f**king phone for Christ sakes... My moto Edge 2023 would blow the s23 ultra out of the water for fluidity and battery life, my OnePlus 12 is better than any Samsung I've owned.
90% of phones review, or most of tech review is based on initial feeling, performance comparison (numbers), they review also UI and more often than note compare it to iOS as if it's the golden standard in UX.
What they lack is the daily feel of the phone, which what most people need. Good reviews so far !!
Most reviewers sit at the chair the whole review. I do not watch those.
"this product was sent to me by ...." 🙄🙄🙄 So it's an advert then
You're very correct about comparing it to iOS. I distaste it soo much.
Exactly for example no one talks about the poor network reception and battery issues on Samsung phones, and most of western "tech youtbers" are just against Chinese phone and praise apple Samsung and google for doing nothing, and their content is just reading the spec sheet and using the phone for like 48 hours
I am using Oneplus 12 with OOS 15 CBT. Very fair video made. Hope it reaches Oneplus
1. CBT still has this lag issue?
2. What about the music player slider notification? is it still not there unlike other brands?
@@pratikkabra8238 it is still happening this lag coming from rapidly switching apps? this is a differential factor in my decision to buy a 1+ phone
You got the title right. You certainly pissed some people off! I was considering returning my S24 ultra for the OnePlus 12. You saved me from that disappointment and regret. Thank you. My phone doesnt have that delay at all and it would send me back to iphone if it did. I dont remember my S8 or S10 or even my S4 doing that
It's a bug that will be fixed or possibly not even present on oneplus 13's full oxygenos 15. The beta is still a beta and these issues are being worked on as its widely reported.
I am thinking of changing my s24u for the oneplus 13 as samsung have dropped the ball recently and willing to change.
@@ThePeanutHunter how has Samsung dropped the ball? They're peak android right now
@spookish4167 used to be. Oneui 6 is still behind all rivals in fluidity and speed of updates. Oneui 7 is 3 months late, camera still has issues this long after release (blurry motion photos).
The S25u is going to be using same 5000mah battery and 45w charging, same m13 panel that is prone to grains and only 1 of the 5 camera sensors being updated. Samsung admits to dropping the ball.
@ThePeanutHunter that's not dropping the ball, since One UI is still the best and most feature rich android skin, 45W is plenty, and the cameras are still considered top tier. Room for improvement, sure. But none of that puts them behind any other manufacturerers imo
@@spookish4167 oneui 6 is still the least smooth skin of all the big 5 android players. Feature wise and customisation wise yes it is great but it's been that way for a while. Oneui 7 is meant to make it much more responsive and smooth, but again it's taken longer than most.
45w is fine for a S23u maybe but for a phone released in 2024 it's not great. The S25u is meant to carry Samsung into 2026 and it's using a 17% smaller battery that takes over an hour to recharge. All the Chinese brands overtaken them technology wise.
the first point im copying from my reply to another guy.
About the delay :
it's not a bug, it's just how things are on android and even on iPhones.
So what happens is, when you move to another app, it gets loaded up from the RAM, the displayed thing you're seeing is a screenshot of the last moment the app was used, NOT the app's current state.
I have a Samsung Ultra and have tried iPhones, it's the same. Maybe performance mode on the Oneplus can help it be a little faster?
About the vapor chamber :
a vapor chamber's task is to take the heat away from the chip and allow it to stay cooler. By dissipating more heat to the body, the phone gets hotter but the chip is actually cooler, the phone getting hotter is the exact point.
Look at Gizmochina's Oneplus 12 vs S24 Ultra gaming video, the Oneplus 12 has better frames, can maintain higher performance for longer all whilst being cooler even though it uses more power.
ruclips.net/video/TkHvL7v-_f0/видео.htmlsi=-7J-xH9ihBw6DJrz
Watch Xiaobai's Galaxy S24 Ultra review and the Oneplus 12 review to see how Samsung compares to other android flagships.
The difference in frames is not huge but there IS a difference and it's good for the chip to stay cooler. Idk how or why you think the S23/S24 Ultra are better. They throttle far worse than all chinese phones in games.
About the gaming features :
The frame booster ADDS frames, the game doesn't allow 99% of phones to go over 60 fps in the settings you chose, that's just how most games are. This feature allows you to add "fake" frames to give the illusion of a smoother game at little cost to input lag.
The hyper resolution thing is an AI upscaler, it's not supposed to be perfect, it just tries to make things look better if you want better looking visuals. Competitive gamers don't use max settings, look at Shroud or s1mple's cs go settings. Lower settings lead to higher fps and competitive gamers need that. COD is a competitive game so you're supposed to use Low graphics with the highest frame rates.
You're blaming Oneplus for using big words when EVERYONE else uses them, look at Samsung and Google with their AI things what about those? Just bashing a company for being corporate is like making fun of an army guy for doing his job. These phones are made to sell, big words attract people and sell phones. I think you're truly ignorant to have not noticed any of the obvious things and bashing Oneplus for adding features. If you want a "clean" android experience, go buy a Sony phone, let's see if you enjoy a phone with "no useless features". And bugs? I've used Samsung and iPhones and NO phone is free from bugs. How ignorant can one guy be? LMAO
I'm not even a Oneplus fan, I think you could've complained about the display not being as good as others or the speakers not being as good as others, maybe even the camera being subpar at times despite the decent hardware, but you chose every point other than those lmao
@@kaiserfakinaway5909 Thank you for taking so much time to share your theoretical findings with us.
About the multitasking lag: what you see in the task manager is a screenshot, yes, because if all of the apps in the background were to be held 100% active then there would be chaos for obvious reasons. However, this isn't my first time holding a phone. There isn't as big of a delay on iPhones or even on some other Android phones, including the vivo x200 Pro mini, and so this means access to background apps is slower on the OnePlus 12. I may do a side by side comparison video to show that soon.
About the vapor chamber, I would have stood corrected if it were actually the case in real life. First of all Warzone is playable at frame rates above 60 on many devices such as, again, the vivo x200 Pro mini, the Realme GT7 Pro or the newer iPads, so I'm not really sure what this "99% of phones" of yours even includes. Second of all, in terms of stability, I don't care about benchmarks. What I do care about is real life performance. On the OnePlus 12, after playing only one multiplayer match on warzone (about 10 minutes), the framerate drops to 60 (from 90-100 which isn't the highest to begin with) even with adaptive booster on. Besides, the phone gets scorching hot, to the point where it starts to literally burn my fingertips. Like I'm not even exaggerating, it hurts my fingertips.
So here's my question: what is the point of keeping the processor a little bit cooler if it physically harms you and it doesn't even help much with performance anyways?
And about using big words: I specifically mentioned Apple in the video, too. I do blame every single manufacturer that uses big statements without actually giving them meaning. For instance, Google kind of made fun of benchmark tests saying that their new Pixel 9 series were not designed to beat benchmarks but to actually offer a solid performance in real life. But the problem is, they don't. Even their top-of-the-line 9XL doesn't. So yes, I'd bash Google any day of the week, too.
@@CasualReviewsAK
multitasking :
The X200 Pro Mini uses faster RAM AND a better chip, comparing these two phones is like comparing the Mclaren F1 and the Mclaren P1 and saying the F1 isn't that good cus it isn't as fast. Phone tech improves massively year over year. And additionally, iPhones have super slow animations, slow animations = more time to do stuff in the background. I have tried it on my Samsung Ultra and did the same thing and the delay is there. Additionally, if you REALLY need to have that speed, turn the performance mode on. You have the choice to do that if you're allergic to any lag. I have it turned on all the time on my phone. It provides faster and snappier animations.
vapor chamber :
The GT7 Pro, X200 Pro Mini and iPads are all leagues ahead of the Oneplus 12 in terms of processing capabilities. These have newer or more powerful chips. Additionally it's upto the developers to implement the settings. For example, Genshin Impact runs at a higher res on iPhones and even at 90 fps on iPads. The 99% of phones i said meant exactly that. It's just not available, YET.
About the performance, the tests i cited were not on benchmarks but rather on actual games like Genshin impact and other demanding games. You're using the refresh rate tool as an indicator for how the game is, it's not accurate. Go use PerfDog and show us the actual frame rate numbers to me and i'll stand corrected. And also, you're using performance mode, the phone is SUPPOSED to push itself to the max in performance mode, maybe turn off performance mode and use cool mode alongside lower settings? LOL, you expect a tiny phone to have max settings 24/7 with no heat emissions? You're ignorant and you haven't watched the vids i told you to.
Xiaobai, Gizmochina and Geekerwan have excellent videos on phones and chipsets. If you watch their videos you'll understand. iPhones are more efficient, they use less power yet get hotter. Same goes for Samsung phones. Oneplus, Vivo, Xiaomi and Oppo are basically on par in terms of power usage and/or frames, the only difference is heat management which is better on Oneplus because of the smaller camera systems. That's it.
Geekerwan : www.youtube.com/@geekerwan1024
Xiaobai : www.youtube.com/@XBCP
and i'll link the Gizmochina video again : ruclips.net/video/TkHvL7v-_f0/видео.htmlsi=Fcya0Q-QLJUJFh10
Watch the Gizmochina video to get the gist of things, the other two go more in-depth, unlike most western/english speaking reviewers, xiaobai doesnt have subs a lot of times so just read the graphs.
Anyways let me summarize Gizmochina's vid for you if you're too lazy. The Oneplus 12 had a stable 59.6 FPS output on Genshin Impact whilst using 5.3W of power. The peak temp was 43.2 C and it was spread more evenly throughout the body than the S24 Ultra, the phone was 39.2 C at the center . The S24 Ultra had a 56.8 FPS output whilst using 4.8 W of power, that might seem impressive but the FPS graph shows it was a lot choppier than the Oneplus. What's more concerning is the fact that the S24 Ultra was hotter, peak temp was 45.3 C, 2 degrees celsius higher than the Oneplus, the heat was less evenly distributed yet the temp at the center of the phone was 39 C. So you're getting less performance for a hotter device.
I put this part into text : ruclips.net/video/TkHvL7v-_f0/видео.htmlt=354
at 1:45 you can see the fps graphs, they most likely didn't turn on the performance mode so the Oneplus 12 actually throttled and cut the output down to 45 fps at times. The main point here is consistency, Oneplus is either consistently 59/60 fps OR 45 FPS, Samsung goes from 50-60 FPS THROUGHOUT the session. That's not a very good session if you're sensitive to this stuff.
To answer your question : It is a choice, you CHOSE to use the performance mode. I wish i had a performance mode on my samsung which allowed me to push it during my competitive sessions and to be able to easily turn it off within a few seconds with the nice game app Oneplus has. You can choose to have a lower power usage setting on the Oneplus. You can either have low power and temps but low fps or high power and temps but with high fps, you can't have all of them unless the chip is overkill for the game, for example the Dimensity 9400 or the Snapdragon 8 Elite are too powerful for Genshin Impact now, phones don't reach more than 39.5-41 degrees, whereas in the past they used to reach 45-49.5 degrees even on gaming phones like Asus's ROG Phone 8 Pro.
big words :
You used Apple yeah but you didn't mention Samsung or Google who only use big words yet bring little to no improvements. The Oneplus 12 is cheaper than all of their phones yet has 90-95% of their every feature, whilst being better in gaming. My point is, if everyone is bad in a group, why only say one or another is bad? You used Apple as an example, that sets the bar too low. I think everyone uses big words but at least Oneplus doesn't use big words alongside a big price tag. I'm not forgiving them, im just saying it's not AS bad as others, especially Samsung, Apple or Google.
@@CasualReviewsAK the realme GT7 pro and Vivo x200 pro mini use next gen chips my dude. You are comparing latest flagship with last years flagship
@@kaiserfakinaway5909 i have pixel 7 pro and i don't have this lag issue from this video...
@@Bartekem88 i use an s22 ultra and i can feel a lag/hitch when i multitask quickly, i tried my relatives' iPhones (15 Plus and 14 Pro Max), and the animation is so slow that it doesn't even matter in the end.
Thanks for pointing out things that pretty much nobody else mentions on their reviews. I am having trouble deciding what phone to buy next (Im still rocking a Oneplus 7t at the moment which I love btw) and your video has actually been very helpful.
Yeah, when you start a demanding game, the phone starts heating up, that is exactly what the vapour chamber is for. To remove the heat from the SOC and dissipate it out trough the phones surface to the atmosphere. So the phone gets hot, but the SOC doesnt throttle.
Tbh I can agree to a certain degree I have a OP12 and the biggest issues I had were battery and heating issues, especially since the new updates
I think some of these bugs are specific to your unit, especially that level of heating up and the lag. The OP 12 has a bi-directional vapor chamber which dissipates heath via both sides of the phone - front and back. It shouldn't be heating up that much. Mine doesn't.
And the lag, while unavoidable due to RAM management, also shouldn't be as noticeable as it is on your phone.
Perhaps high performance mode would help, but otherwise there's definitely something buggy with the unit itself, and it's not the first time I've heard people mention various bugs on OP 12. Most of them have however been already resolved with one of the older updates, but since yours are still there, I'd be interested to see if things get better with the stable OOS 15 update. I've just gotten it the other day and the phone is incredibly smooth, especially with high performance on and fast animations set...it works flawlessly.
Btw, I'm assuming you imported your OP 12 from China since it's white. Maybe this has something to do with the Chinese model, as opposed to the EU/global one.
I agree, phone looks ugly. I have OP 12 and the camera bump look like a toilet seat lid. Otherwise, it's not a bad phone.
That delay is present even on OOS 15 closed beta test.
Ohh nooo 🤦
They'll never figure out and fix it, just upgrade to other huge brand. Every design change they approached in oos15 is not well thought out, the different panels for control panel and notification is a good change, but for such huge screen where it's hard for one to access the top part of screen what good is the new dynamic island micmic? Also it's a remedy for apple's huge camera and face id cut out, OnePlus doesn't have such cut out why then put the bandange where there is no actual wound? Why not try to come up with something new for the punch hole ?
but its not a bug guys
@@venividivici1982 exactly, it's not a bug, it's just how things are on android and even on iPhones.
So what happens is, when you move to another app, it gets loaded up from the RAM, the displayed thing you're seeing is a screenshot of the last moment the app was used, NOT the app's current state.
I have a Samsung Ultra and have used iPhones, it's the same. Maybe performance mode on the Oneplus can help it be a little faster?
@@-_krish_- imagine being so butthurt over a feature you can turn off or choose not to use lol
Image upscaling (like OnePlus hyper resolution) won't improve the game assets quality, warzone textures are just that low res and no phone can do anything about it, developers fault.
Also warzone mobile already uses snapdragon GSR which is an upscaler added by developers and cannot be turned off, so maybe that's why there's no difference turning on this feature on this game.
Man, I really like your contents. Hope you update us more on color os 15 feeling and more.
I seriously like your style. I do hope you get to the point a little faster in your next video, saying that i did sub so thanks bro. Look forward to the next one!
Yeh I owned it and didn't like it at all .. Felt get awkward in the hand, and just didn't like using it
The multitasking delay is present on my s22 ultra as well, didn't notice it though (before you said it)
I also have the delay problem on my OP 11 and it's very annoying. I don't even know if it's a bug or they consider it a feature...
Weirdly enough i dont, op 11 also
Funny thing is I have a OP12 and don't have this lag issue at all. I breifly had the milt tasking delay but was fixed in earlier update.
On my 12R is something definitely wrong with system animations duration... Touches not registered while animation in progress. And it's can't be fixed via dev settings, even when animations completely turned off 😡 in some 3rd party apps touch registering works good. I found some similar reddit threads without solution. With point of view from my good old 7T its feels like 2 steps forward, but 1 huge step to the back
Good comments. The question I have is "How good is the x200PM in your required performance?"
Also, OnePlus 12 is "flagship killer" because it is less expensive than other flagships.
Then again, are your problems fixed in OnePlus 13 that is available now?
Do you think your Vivo pro mini is better than your Oppo find x8?
And One Plus even underclocks the processor compared to the competition . So much to save battery and nullify the true flagship performance people paid for .
Blud what r u using that extra 5% performance for?? I'd rather have another hour of battery life than an extra 200 points on geekbench
@aldenthomas5317 Who said anything about benchmarks , One Plus underclocks the processor which hinders gaming experience . 12r,11,11r,12 all are not so great at gaming considering the chipset they are shipped with.
Yes normal day to day tasks won't be a problem but someone who's buying it for gaming keeping the processor in mind they will be disappointed .
@aldenthomas5317 And I don't think it's just 5% gap in performance . It's definitely more than that which can be felt during gaming .
@@nikhildevani5938 even under clock is way faster than pixel 9 pro XL at peak performance what is your point? The pixel starts at 1099 OnePlus 12 @ 799, high performance mode is just diminishing return. Maybe if they re-brand it to Overclock mode you will feel better.
@@markgutierez9922 Pixels are the worst flagships around when you need performance .
And maybe that performance mode should detect that a game is being played and enable automatically . Some brands like Iqoo offer better performance on the same processor and still manage to give almost same battery backup like One Plus ,so what's the need of underclocking a chipset and people never really get to see it's true performance if they buy One Plus .
Video stabilization is abysmal with this phone compared to my S23 base model.
I love this kind of reviews pls do review for the pixel
I like your content sir...keep up the good work🫶
The lag between apps is very valid, it also happens to me when scrolling comments on IG, FB, or YT, but using Warzone Mobile to test gaming performance makes no sense. That game is unoptimized trash, the Samsung Galaxy S24U can barely play it, maybe try COD mobile, or even emulators like PS2 or GameCube, I play those on my OP12 and upscale 4x resolution with smooth gameplay.
Good video! But you should make more cuts to dine the presentation:)
Cod warzone is poorly optimized for Android so no matter which Android you play it on, it will suck
In China, the system optimization is better, only vivo and glory. System optimization of other brands is general，But I like vivo
I thought this half second delay on switching apps were common. So you are telling me there are phones without this problem? My new OP12R and my previous Poco F3 have them, even using custom and lightweight roms such as lineageos
Seems like more of an Android problem rather than the brand . Has anyone checked for the same issue on IOS device .
@@nikhildevani5938yes, I have checked a friend iphone 14 and the response is almost instantaneous
my pixel doesn't have that problem@@nikhildevani5938
@@nikhildevani5938Tested on a friend's iPhone 14 and response is instantaneous in comparison
This is common for all android phones. This guy is nitpicking man
For real 1:00
If you dont like how it looks 😂then WHY THE HELL did you buy it!
@@TRUMP2four Some of us don't buy phones based merely on looks.
Did ou check it on android 15 ?
Honest review
این ویجت ها رو چطور اضافه کردین؟؟
It's supposed to be the best , it's the flagship, so I guess it should be fixed
Elon Musk, is that you?
You bought a phone that you don't like the look of.. lol xD
@@nawazwaseem2219 I thought it would make up for that in the performance department. 🙃
@CasualReviewsAK Most people use a case so you won't know how cheap it feels or looks.
send it to me😢
i believe it is to keep animations smooth, as keeping the app fully functional in the background would use lots of resources
Yet other flagships with similar specs don't need to do that
Listen guys is always go to by something you sound just like my wife
To be honest…To be honest…To be honest…What’s that even mean, that except when you say that, nothing else is true and everything you are saying is false?
Great video
the first thing is not a bug ,is a feature/android thing,when you get out of the browser and back makes a quick refresh
این مشکل با اپدیت اکسیژن ۱۵ رفع شده
Divar :)
What is this review 😂😂😂😂😂??
Just use spilit screen bruh
Is this video a joke???? This guy is out of his mind!😂😂😂 That was a millisecond of "delay" wtf
It's jarring when you're in workflow, and other flagships don't do that.
Still not acceptable as it's a high end powerful processor and mature OS. Is it an annoying bug? Yes. Is it overblown by the uploader? Probably yes.
If people don't point these things out they won't be fixed.
Stop nitpicking and use a computer for your "workflow" lmao it's a f**king phone for Christ sakes... My moto Edge 2023 would blow the s23 ultra out of the water for fluidity and battery life, my OnePlus 12 is better than any Samsung I've owned.
@@spookish4167you're jarring yo my workflow 😂
@mattlamb15 idk why you're trying to defend buggy software but good job
This guy is bad at tech. Period.
He's refreshing in a over saturated market of "this phone was sent to me by X..." 🙄🙄
This is like old style RUclips
naming things...when apple does is cool and ok,right