"Sims will just autonomously grab popcorn all the time" ....as a person who can't stop eating popcorn this sounds like perfectly normal and relatable behavior.
Saame like they should give you full package and pay you for playing it. Too bad they want too much money for bad DLC when instead there should be at least 3 DLC combined into one piece of proper full value DLC
Well... Given my experience with Laundry Day, I won't get it EVEN if it was free. Having my neat Sim throw dirty clothes on the floor whenever they change clothing, take a bath, a shower or go to sleep... When standing right next to an empty laundry basket ? No thank. Luckily, at the time, I was trying before buying.
@@Kualinar And this is why I don't own laundry day and have zero interest in getting it. I like playing with bigger families and I have no interest in my digital people having to do laundry. We have enough going on already without that.
That’s because it was too blatant of a cash grab, with stuff that could only work if you had Cats and Dogs. There are a lot of other stuff packs and kits where you can pretty quickly guess which expansion pack or game pack they were cut from. Crystal Creations probably was spun off from Werewolves, Home Chef Hustle was probably spun off from Growing Together or High School Years, etc. The difference with the spun-off/cut-content packs vs. My First Pet Stuff is that they are not dependent on owning the pack they were spun off from, and may represent a cheaper way to add some interesting stuff to your game without splurging on a full expansion pack or game pack. EA is still nickel and diming players by spinning off content into smaller packs so you need more things to get a fuller experience, but it isn’t as scummy as DLC for DLC.
Actually, Home Chef Hustle could have been spun off from For Rent. Given the Night Market in that Expansion Pack and the culture represented, having a career where you open your own food stall with stuff you cook yourself would make sense in the original plan for the pack. It just got cut and spun off on its own. You have to check the packs released within a year before or a year after to find the ones they probably were spun off from.
I only like it because I got it when they gave it away for free. I use the couches a lot and the one rug that can be a turtle and a lady bug, makes kid's builds fun.
@@steggopotamus I tend to use the bookcase, the desk, and the desk chair. The desk chair while being a bit weird looking is a really good value. It’s only $100 but it is comfort: 3. The next cheapest desk chairs that have that comfort score start $210 and you have to look for them. I wouldn’t have paid for that pack, but I will use it since it is free.
i will defend nifty knitting forever.. though i do agree they could’ve given cooler options with creating thing like crystal creations. selling on plopsy is fun too
I think the people who don't like it think knitting is just for old people. It's such a a cool skill IRL. Now that we have knitting and cross stitch, I just wish there was sewing too. Would feel like it completes that particular crafty circle.
@@TheDawnofVanlifeI wish we had sewing as well (without having to resort to mods)! Personally, I love the gameplay with knitting and cross-stitch; and almost every game I play has a sim who is selling handcrafts on Plopsy as their main source of income.
@@TheDawnofVanlife Look for me anything that adds a new skill is worth it in my eyes it just gives your Sims more things to work for I am currently broke but boy do I want crystal creations so badly it kinda is stressing me out rn with how much I want it
Tiny Home is definitely worth it as it incentivizes building a small house. The base game favors large houses due to all the oversized stuff, so this gets you to build in a new way.
I just got the knitting pack about a week ago… Not once did I think the metal music interactions came with that pack. I genuinely thought it was maybe an April Fools prank in one of my mods or something like that. Lmfao
Satch you cray cray. The romantic garden is perfect for wedding venues and parks. Have you seen the amazing builds people can make with that pack, because I just saw and wow. 🤩
Agree, and that part is annoying because it's like 3 or 4 clicks in, I just want to click on their assigned bed and have them sleep, or do it on their own
Honestly? I think Tiny Living, Laundry Day, and Romantic Garden stuff packs don't get the love they deserve. Especially Romantic Garden. I think the items that these packs come with are really cute. Personally, Romantic Garden plants are the only plants that don't make me want to tear my hair out every time I download a build from the gallery and half the lot is filled with millions of plants to make up for the lack of actual architecture. And Laundry Day is not only cute (unpopular opinion but the clothes in this pack are some of the best and I use them for almost every sim) but adds that mundane gameplay like Satch said. I love having laundry rooms in my Sims houses. And then Tiny Living not only adds new ways of building, but it gives a REASON to building. Without the pack, yeah you can build small lots.... but that's it. Tiny Living gives you a reaaon to do it by giving extra lot buffs and gameplay traits. Plus, having the tiny furniture expands on regular building and decoration too. Sometimes I want my sims to have a lounge chair just chilling in their room like I do, but all the regular chairs are just too big and bulky (and ugly). Anyway, I think those 3 packs should AT LEAST be in the maybe category.
HUGE agree, those three are the only stuff packs I own (and some CC versions of existing packs) and they add so much to the game! The laundry day objects and outfits are all usable but it gives you the choice of whether or not you want to so laundry, and romantic garden stuff has the nicest plants plus the fountain and wishing well are really nice features Tiny living is a pack I think everyone should have since it can be used across all the other packs. Some of the items are usable in every build and the lot perks from smaller housing helps to make builds and gameplay more challenging
The only ones I don't have are Luxury Party, Moschino, and Crystal Creations. I personally can do without all those. But my personal picks are as follows: For CAS - Vintage Glamour For Build/Buy - Kids Room SP + Vintage Glamour SP For Gameplay - Paranormal SP (My whole household is only occults, so its very fitting)
I kinda love movie stuff and bowling because I love building community lots and activity spaces for sims and care a little less about like owning/running businesses. Kinda goes with me being a family player, I want places for the family to go 😊. Toddler stuff was a waste of money for the most part, but kids stuff did help me out a lot with giving my kids things to do. The puppet show cabinet is on most of my playground lots. It’s kinda big for a bedroom but perfect for the park and I can get the kid to entertain the whole family.
i see your point of view but don't you think it's kinda useless to spend 20 bucks for basic stuff that should've been a bigger gameplay experience? Like, 10$ for bowling and another 10$ for basically for a pop-corn machine? You see it from a builders pov but the Shit 4 is supposed to be a life simulation game :/
@@regeneratedwitch Nah not a builder, I build TO play not TO build. I build for function over aesthetic when I do build and it's just a means to an end (to play in what I build or it's pointless to build). I built a three level shopping center with a bowling alley on the first floor, indoor movie theater on the second level, and food court on the third level and use it in gameplay way more than A TON of stuff packs, game packs, and expansion packs many people rate way higher. The thing I have actually barely used from movie stuff is the popcorn maker 😂😂😂. Just getting the Sims watching a movie is hard enough without the distraction of them eating. That being said, I use both the movie and bowling on this multi use community lot so frequently. I use this lot for adult dates, teen dates, kids and teens hanging with friends, and family movie and activity nights. Is it lame they sold bowling as it's own pack, for sure. But like I got cool kitchen for the ice cream maker to be honest and barely to never use it. Much like the popcorn maker you can't just leave it on a counter, cause Sims will get fixated, so it's in household inventory minus use at special events. Where as Movie Stuff and Bowling I pretty much use all the time because I built a lot that serves a great purpose for so many things when I play. From dates to family and friends outings.
@@regeneratedwitch They are indeed overpriced and they should've been included in other packs bowling night should've been in get together and movies should've been base game but I disagree because just giving your Sims more stuff to do in my opinion is worth the money maybe not full price but how could I argue with taking a family bowling or gathering a group to watch a movie outside?
@@ejfiewfeuihefwiuwe that’s what they want. To sell you more options by separating concepts into a billion packs. I would love bowling but selling it separately? Gross! When I had bought the Sims 3 Fast Lane I knew it had many cars. But we had cars before and after the stuff pack. I just had the option to have different ones. Same with the sims 3 outdoor living. It gave us more stuff but they weren’t solely locked behind a paywall.
@@regeneratedwitch I agree with you Sims 3 did have a lot of paid stuff namely The Sims 3 store thankfully in my opinion you do not need it for a complete game and Riverview is free It is crazy to me how I own 11 DLC for Sims 3 which is all the expansions and I also own riverview and I can say without even spending a dime on The Sims 3 store that I can say for certainty that Sims 3 is complete I do not need all the store stuff while some of the worlds look nice I have 8 worlds from the DLC and riverview Now with Sims 4 how the hell do I own 29 DLC and my game still feels incomplete? that is right everything is just split up into several packs I could take my Sims to university but can't do something as small as bowling I can create spellcasters but cannot make magical crystals without another 10$ fee It is REALLY REALLY dumb but sadly Sim players do not really have a choice until Paralives comes out and which I pray Paralives is really really good I love The Sims 3 though there are some features from The Sims 4 that I do indeed love
I very much agree, Satch. Sure wish I had your spot-on analysis before I bought most of these packs. The B-roll animation is what sells the packs, for me. The sims act like humans, interact, and line up to use the water slide. The reality is that the sims don't interact, so there is no party atmosphere. They're glued to video games on the computer, and would probably never think to leave the house to use the water slide. OTOH, I do love some of the minor things in packs that make me glad I bought them. I love the Tiny House desk and entertainment center. I didn't even know about the lot incentives until you brought it up in a previous video! I overlook so much about the game without your input.
Satches's rank, bc I cant remember anything ever apparently. GET IT: Paranormal, kids room, tiny living, Crystal creations, MAYBE: toddler, laundry day, home chef hustle, DESPERATION: cool kitchen, spooky, movie hangouts, vintage glamor, bowling night, DON'T BOTHER: Luxury party, perfect patio, romantic garden, backyard stuff, fitness stuff, nifty knitting, Lul no: my first pet. Who else thinks that we're going to see the rest if satch's don't bother tier for free later?
Absolutely love these reviews. I don't buy anything now without checking out your vids, I recently bought paranormal after checking out your main video
The Luxury Party position is the only one that makes no sense to me. "It has things that can be found on High School Years and My First Wedding": both more expensive, super buggy and generally not recommended. Also, on sale it's about the price of a kit and comparing to kits it's actually a pretty good value.
If it was to be released now, the Luxury Party stuff pack and Moschino pack would be kits. Perfect Patio : Don't bother, but I got it free. Same for Romantic Garden. There is a problem with the outdoors movie screen : It's NOT weather proof. Any rain will break it. I tried Laundry Day... And even my neat Sims never stopped dropping dirty clothes everywhere EXCEPT in the available laundry baskets. My rating : MFPS.
Paranormal is probably my favorite. I love the clothing styles and the decor. I probably use this pack in all my CAS and my builds. I was pleasantly surprised with Crystal Creations. (I didn’t get it until the bug was fixed)
Butler works perfectly fine for me. Albeit they are little slow and I hate that we can’t pick our butler it’s always random person freshly generated by the game. But maybe I’m just lucky.
The ads are so funny to me with how much they have to stretch individual items and make it seem cool and entertaining in fifty slightly different ways because that’s literally that’s all in the pack. It feels like the ads are actually struggling to fill the time because that’s how few items there are and how boring they are
The only reason I am considering buying vintage glamour is for that globe bar lmao 😹😭 like I just wish I could have the not actual bars in my sims houses if I want to give them bars, but like, I won’t buy a whole stuff pack just for that. So I’m just hoping that they eventually give that out for free 🤞🤞🤞
Vintage glamour is perfect if you can use mods to fix the butler. Thanks to lms and simvasion my butler works 99% really well. I absolutely love it for my rich sims.
You post at the exact time I start looking for videos to listen to while I work. Also what's with all the people with butts and gooches as profile pictures lol
I love the knitting pack because you can craft things for your home. In a "castaway" challenge, where you have to build everything, it's really enjoyable, and the broken rug is really fun. However, the crystal creations pack is too easy; it's basically a cheat pack. The only truly deep gameplay I see in it is creating a jewelry store.
I think nifty knitting deserves a better score, top tier even. Knitting is a nice hobby for all sims aged child and above, not only elders. It allows gameplay to make your own clothes which can't be found anywhere else in the sims 4. Plopsy is great for selling a lot of craftables and there is gameplay integration with cottage living. It is my favourite stuff pack. Moschino also deserves one category up because of the photography. That's the real selling point for this pack because the clothing, just like the Moschino brand, is awful. Perfect patio on the other hand should be next to my first pets stuff. That pack has no point after hot tubs were patched into base game.
Funny that My First Pet is in its own tier since it's the only stuff pack that requires another pack outside of the base game in order to buy. But for real, the stuff packs that the Sims players universally agree are not worth buying are the ones that should be offered for free for a limited time by EA.
They really need to make toddler improvements to base game so that they can go to parks and libraries for non active households. It would add a lot of life to those lots. Edit: now that I think about it, that would be a great bug report lol. "Parents from other housholds never bring todlers and babies to parks"
Honestly the only reason I mostly download these stuff packs is because of the Afro textured hair. For a game about diversity they don’t have much in the hair department for base game. And as a person who plays on console it’s boring because we don’t have mods
I enjoy the ice cream maker. I use it to change my sims weight around. I also use the butler all the time from the other pack. I wish someone told me sooner how awesome the tiny living pack is and how it works well with the eco pack. Great for rags to riches.
Get it when on sale: paranormal. This is the good pack. Maybe when on sale: Tiny Living and Crystal Creation are the cheat packs. The rest is quite forgettable. Wait till ea messes up again and hands them out for free. Oh, wait, Moschino does enhance the photography gameplay. Also, I consider buying the Boring Chores Stuff Pack next time it's on sale. I hear there are wicked whims animations for the the washing machine. Also the latest update of ww seems to involve panties so maybe having a hemper would be nice.
Why is Crystal Creations and Tiny Living the same tier? Tiny Living doesn't even add any new skill Crystal Creations adds a new major skill that goes up to lvl 10 and actually gives a reason to hunt for the crystals
idk why but butlers work totally fine for me hahah so i love the gameplay as it is really nice to have a live-in butler with sims who own massive houses
I love this pack, its one of my favorites, glad its fixed, I love paranormal, and I love cottage living, my absolutely favorites, I also enjoy the chef one but right now its crystal creations all the way !!!!
After a few months of not playing I decided to come back to Sims 4 and even though I do agree most packs are cash grabs I’ll defend Nifty Knitting’s honor. The CAS and BnB is subjective, however the gameplay is really nice and can be added to different styles: if you are a family/legacy player you can use it as a hobby for your elders and make onesies for new borns and your grandparents sims can teach their grandchildren; if you want to do rags to riches but with a little extra struggle don’t sell from the inventory and use Plopsy (that you can’t cheese like Trendi) since you can sell other craftables like paintings, flower arrangements, candles, etc; and even just everyday gameplay if you want a Sim to be more rounded and knits as a stress relief or side hustle. Edit: since you like the gameplay of having a shop you can make a knitted clothing store.
No no no. Romantic garden can not be on the same lvl as luxury party.☝️ The well is so funny.. especially if it gives you the opposite of what you wished for. 😂 But I mostly agree with you. I appreciate so much that you are not this cheerful "I am so excited for everythiiiiiing" " I will use that all the tiiiiiime" simmer. Refreshingly rational. Thank you
❤ the review.... I got many of these in packages discord did... that were 3 for the and an expansion pack for 40$ usd... so I feel it. 😂 I hate the monster battle.... never works... 😅
I got my first pet stuff the other day because it was free with cats and dogs (on Xbox it’s now like a bundle you can’t really get one without the other) and I have not used it ONCE 😭it’s so terrible. I like cats and dogs though.
Serious question, how do I stop the awful EA app from launching whenever I restart my computer? It's so much like EA to think they are the only reason I have a computer *rolls eyes hard*
I had the same opinion about the kitchen stuff pack until i learned that you can use the ice cream machine to make your sims skinny 😂 that made it so worth it for me.
Backyard Stuff is actually my favorite pack of all. I like the CAS. I like the wind chimes. I like the drink tray. I like the fence. I like the candles. It was made for me. Not everyone probably would like it quite like me. Someone asked me which pack I liked the most yesterday, and I said quite honestly Backyard Stuff.
Movie hangout is TRASH! It offers nothing, and I definitely had to remove the popcorn machine. The Vintage glamor Butler is horrible,I use LittleMsSam’s mod instead. I like bowling but group bowling is buggy. I love nifty knitting, I also have a mod to make the items natural colors. Paranormal and Crystal Creation are my top 2! But crystal creation needs more male jewelry designs
Should consider gameplay elements for all of the packs. Like the popcorn is annoying but if you can use mods, there are fixes, and you can actually sell the popcorn in Home Chef. They may have tuned it down for that stuff pack. Maybe you can make a vid testing it out. Romantic Garden has the wishing well which I think adds major gameplay elements considering you can spawn a spouse and children or have bad luck. Bowling is a great pack since it integrates with the club features to create those bowling teams and rivalries. I think the Sims 4 is garbage but I can see a lot more positive in the stuff packs than presented in the vid. Sometimes I think people really need to dig into the stuff packs on their own because EA can't be bothered to actually document everything the packs add like events, dialogue, gameplay elements, moods, activities. Moschino is garbage but there is the Photo Studio options. I would recommend Ravasheen's mods for better camera options but Moschino pack allows you to have family poses and post them in your home. I think another vid about deep dives into the stuff packs would be interesting to see what you learn and we can see stuff we missed. edited : for confusing sentence
Yes! I feel like I have to make a spreadsheet to figure out all the things I didn't know about like events, additional dialogue, moods, careers...I don't even know what the whole list of possible additions is.
Is anyone else getting the jewelry_tracker last exception from the Crystal Creations pack? My game isn't heavily modded. Just WW, MCCC and UI cheat extensions. No CC either.
Thanks for the video! I think your assessments of each pack are pretty fair. I have to say, though, I don't think PP is a "don't bother," unless you're not interested in hot tubs at all. The bg hot tub is fugly as heck. And nobody should buy the buggy abomination that is For Rent, full stop. I also would have ranked NK as a "maybe" based simply on whether you're interested in having the knitting skill or not. If you are, it's well worth it because the cas and bb are also decent, as you noted.
Honestly the only thing I use out of Tiny Living is the combo tv, radio, & bookshelf. I use it a lot, but… $10 for one build/buy item? 🤣 The tiny living lot bonuses just seem like cheats/shortcuts. If you want your game to be even easier than it already is, apply tiny home…
I'm not going to defend sims4, because they could do so much more, but I also feel you are not creative enough in terms of what you can do with build mode. And you also only think in british, which is really sad. The Romantic Garden only use it with Get Together?? Are you kidding me? It fits many kinds of european gardens and even fantasy builds. You also said the same for the castle kit, as if there arent castles in the rest of Europe and you can build castles in Tartosa too and even in the other brit worlds. Also I think these ranking vids shouldnt be done at all, because it depends on the taste of each person. I dont really care for Halloween either, but there are people who love it for example. And also what type of player you are, a builder, cas creator or a regular gameplay one or all of them. Sure, this is your channel and its your opinion, but could lead people in a wrong way
Romantic Garden is a great community lot pack. I mean I got it when it was free, but have found myself using little things from it all over my game. Also Satch's rankings are a total playstyle thing, but I hope most viewers know that. I was actually SHOCKED he gave a decent ranking to kids room stuff at all because he is not a family player really and usually doesn't like things I use literally all the time in game because I love family play. Also, when he tries to guess what interest family players he's usually way wrong. Cause its not his play style. So sometimes I wish he would lead with 'this is based on my playstyle' which is 'X'.
THANK YOU for your commentary about Movie Hangout. The boho stuff is nice but it always confused me, I never understood why they didnt include cinema items like recliners, snack stands, outdoor beanbags etc etc and make a cinema like the bowling alleys from bowling night. So random to me.
Geezus, just looking at the amount of packs makes me realise how cash grabby EA is. Nah, I'm gonna continue playing TS3 when they actually gave a damn about their game 😅 I also recently bought TS1 and 2, but I forgot that I can't put cds into mu computer anymore 😭
I was just daydreaming that EA staff was ordered to make things that would make Satch ecstatic! If he wasn't thrilled, they would have to go back and make the changes he suggested.
Everything sucks now because the game is broken, so are most of the packs! I wouldn't recommend anything from Sims or EA! Most expensive worst game ever!!
"Sims will just autonomously grab popcorn all the time"
....as a person who can't stop eating popcorn this sounds like perfectly normal and relatable behavior.
The fact that there's even 50 million packs is crazy. The only way I would buy all of it is if I'm getting paid for playing 😂
They gave 3 or 4 of them for free now so don't bother buying. maybe they all will come free one day eventually
Saame like they should give you full package and pay you for playing it.
Too bad they want too much money for bad DLC when instead
there should be at least 3 DLC combined into one piece of proper full value DLC
Just make a simtube channel. Sure the sims don't have much of a future but if you hurry you can make enough money for the packs and then some.
@@derralle5705what’s a simtube channel?
@@houseplants_Keep_Me_Sane literally just a sims youtube channel
Most of the stuff packs I own were free giveaways. And I gotta say: totally worth the money.
Lmao same, money well spent...
Well... Given my experience with Laundry Day, I won't get it EVEN if it was free.
Having my neat Sim throw dirty clothes on the floor whenever they change clothing, take a bath, a shower or go to sleep... When standing right next to an empty laundry basket ? No thank.
Luckily, at the time, I was trying before buying.
I think with laubdry day as long as you don't put a hamper in they beyave like normal. So, personally I'd get it. @@Kualinar
@@Kualinar And this is why I don't own laundry day and have zero interest in getting it. I like playing with bigger families and I have no interest in my digital people having to do laundry. We have enough going on already without that.
Lol I love that My First Pet Stuff gets it's own sub-F tier.
That’s because it was too blatant of a cash grab, with stuff that could only work if you had Cats and Dogs. There are a lot of other stuff packs and kits where you can pretty quickly guess which expansion pack or game pack they were cut from. Crystal Creations probably was spun off from Werewolves, Home Chef Hustle was probably spun off from Growing Together or High School Years, etc. The difference with the spun-off/cut-content packs vs. My First Pet Stuff is that they are not dependent on owning the pack they were spun off from, and may represent a cheaper way to add some interesting stuff to your game without splurging on a full expansion pack or game pack. EA is still nickel and diming players by spinning off content into smaller packs so you need more things to get a fuller experience, but it isn’t as scummy as DLC for DLC.
Actually, Home Chef Hustle could have been spun off from For Rent. Given the Night Market in that Expansion Pack and the culture represented, having a career where you open your own food stall with stuff you cook yourself would make sense in the original plan for the pack. It just got cut and spun off on its own. You have to check the packs released within a year before or a year after to find the ones they probably were spun off from.
It’s one of my favorites. Yes it’s cash grabby but I actually love the build mode items 🧍♀️
I only like it because I got it when they gave it away for free. I use the couches a lot and the one rug that can be a turtle and a lady bug, makes kid's builds fun.
@@steggopotamus I tend to use the bookcase, the desk, and the desk chair. The desk chair while being a bit weird looking is a really good value. It’s only $100 but it is comfort: 3. The next cheapest desk chairs that have that comfort score start $210 and you have to look for them. I wouldn’t have paid for that pack, but I will use it since it is free.
i will defend nifty knitting forever.. though i do agree they could’ve given cooler options with creating thing like crystal creations. selling on plopsy is fun too
I think the people who don't like it think knitting is just for old people. It's such a a cool skill IRL. Now that we have knitting and cross stitch, I just wish there was sewing too. Would feel like it completes that particular crafty circle.
@@TheDawnofVanlifeI wish we had sewing as well (without having to resort to mods)! Personally, I love the gameplay with knitting and cross-stitch; and almost every game I play has a sim who is selling handcrafts on Plopsy as their main source of income.
@@TheDawnofVanlife Look for me anything that adds a new skill is worth it in my eyes it just gives your Sims more things to work for I am currently broke but boy do I want crystal creations so badly it kinda is stressing me out rn with how much I want it
Tiny Home is definitely worth it as it incentivizes building a small house. The base game favors large houses due to all the oversized stuff, so this gets you to build in a new way.
They are so strong with building. If only they would put that much investment into the rest of the game.
And the murphy bed saves you space because you don't need a sofa
You did not mention that KNITTING brought METAL MUSIC to TS4 ... I thought the music was great!
I just got the knitting pack about a week ago… Not once did I think the metal music interactions came with that pack.
I genuinely thought it was maybe an April Fools prank in one of my mods or something like that. Lmfao
AND NOW I HAVE TO BUY IT LMAOOO
I bought it because of call me kevin using it and I was using a rocker sim during that time and was so surprised that it came with metal music
Tbh bowling, toddler, and backyard stuff could've been in growing together (if they upgraded and rewatch stuff ofc)
Satch you cray cray. The romantic garden is perfect for wedding venues and parks. Have you seen the amazing builds people can make with that pack, because I just saw and wow. 🤩
My toxic sims trait is that I ALWAYS hire a Butler ! lol Works okay for me but you have to tell them to go to sleep haha
Agree, and that part is annoying because it's like 3 or 4 clicks in, I just want to click on their assigned bed and have them sleep, or do it on their own
my butler sleeps all the time i have to wake them up all the time , even after wohooing
hey wake up theres salad going bad on my desk
go clean NOW 😂
Honestly? I think Tiny Living, Laundry Day, and Romantic Garden stuff packs don't get the love they deserve. Especially Romantic Garden. I think the items that these packs come with are really cute. Personally, Romantic Garden plants are the only plants that don't make me want to tear my hair out every time I download a build from the gallery and half the lot is filled with millions of plants to make up for the lack of actual architecture. And Laundry Day is not only cute (unpopular opinion but the clothes in this pack are some of the best and I use them for almost every sim) but adds that mundane gameplay like Satch said. I love having laundry rooms in my Sims houses. And then Tiny Living not only adds new ways of building, but it gives a REASON to building. Without the pack, yeah you can build small lots.... but that's it. Tiny Living gives you a reaaon to do it by giving extra lot buffs and gameplay traits. Plus, having the tiny furniture expands on regular building and decoration too. Sometimes I want my sims to have a lounge chair just chilling in their room like I do, but all the regular chairs are just too big and bulky (and ugly).
Anyway, I think those 3 packs should AT LEAST be in the maybe category.
HUGE agree, those three are the only stuff packs I own (and some CC versions of existing packs) and they add so much to the game!
The laundry day objects and outfits are all usable but it gives you the choice of whether or not you want to so laundry, and romantic garden stuff has the nicest plants plus the fountain and wishing well are really nice features
Tiny living is a pack I think everyone should have since it can be used across all the other packs. Some of the items are usable in every build and the lot perks from smaller housing helps to make builds and gameplay more challenging
can you do a video about dlc you wish were in sim 4
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The only ones I don't have are Luxury Party, Moschino, and Crystal Creations. I personally can do without all those.
But my personal picks are as follows:
For CAS - Vintage Glamour
For Build/Buy - Kids Room SP + Vintage Glamour SP
For Gameplay - Paranormal SP
(My whole household is only occults, so its very fitting)
I kinda love movie stuff and bowling because I love building community lots and activity spaces for sims and care a little less about like owning/running businesses. Kinda goes with me being a family player, I want places for the family to go 😊. Toddler stuff was a waste of money for the most part, but kids stuff did help me out a lot with giving my kids things to do. The puppet show cabinet is on most of my playground lots. It’s kinda big for a bedroom but perfect for the park and I can get the kid to entertain the whole family.
i see your point of view but don't you think it's kinda useless to spend 20 bucks for basic stuff that should've been a bigger gameplay experience? Like, 10$ for bowling and another 10$ for basically for a pop-corn machine? You see it from a builders pov but the Shit 4 is supposed to be a life simulation game :/
@@regeneratedwitch Nah not a builder, I build TO play not TO build. I build for function over aesthetic when I do build and it's just a means to an end (to play in what I build or it's pointless to build). I built a three level shopping center with a bowling alley on the first floor, indoor movie theater on the second level, and food court on the third level and use it in gameplay way more than A TON of stuff packs, game packs, and expansion packs many people rate way higher.
The thing I have actually barely used from movie stuff is the popcorn maker 😂😂😂. Just getting the Sims watching a movie is hard enough without the distraction of them eating. That being said, I use both the movie and bowling on this multi use community lot so frequently. I use this lot for adult dates, teen dates, kids and teens hanging with friends, and family movie and activity nights. Is it lame they sold bowling as it's own pack, for sure.
But like I got cool kitchen for the ice cream maker to be honest and barely to never use it. Much like the popcorn maker you can't just leave it on a counter, cause Sims will get fixated, so it's in household inventory minus use at special events. Where as Movie Stuff and Bowling I pretty much use all the time because I built a lot that serves a great purpose for so many things when I play. From dates to family and friends outings.
@@regeneratedwitch They are indeed overpriced and they should've been included in other packs bowling night should've been in get together and movies should've been base game but I disagree because just giving your Sims more stuff to do in my opinion is worth the money maybe not full price but how could I argue with taking a family bowling or gathering a group to watch a movie outside?
@@ejfiewfeuihefwiuwe that’s what they want. To sell you more options by separating concepts into a billion packs. I would love bowling but selling it separately? Gross!
When I had bought the Sims 3 Fast Lane I knew it had many cars. But we had cars before and after the stuff pack. I just had the option to have different ones. Same with the sims 3 outdoor living. It gave us more stuff but they weren’t solely locked behind a paywall.
@@regeneratedwitch I agree with you Sims 3 did have a lot of paid stuff namely The Sims 3 store thankfully in my opinion you do not need it for a complete game and Riverview is free
It is crazy to me how I own 11 DLC for Sims 3 which is all the expansions and I also own riverview and I can say without even spending a dime on The Sims 3 store that I can say for certainty that Sims 3 is complete I do not need all the store stuff while some of the worlds look nice I have 8 worlds from the DLC and riverview
Now with Sims 4 how the hell do I own 29 DLC and my game still feels incomplete? that is right everything is just split up into several packs I could take my Sims to university but can't do something as small as bowling I can create spellcasters but cannot make magical crystals without another 10$ fee
It is REALLY REALLY dumb but sadly Sim players do not really have a choice until Paralives comes out and which I pray Paralives is really really good I love The Sims 3 though there are some features from The Sims 4 that I do indeed love
I very much agree, Satch. Sure wish I had your spot-on analysis before I bought most of these packs. The B-roll animation is what sells the packs, for me. The sims act like humans, interact, and line up to use the water slide. The reality is that the sims don't interact, so there is no party atmosphere. They're glued to video games on the computer, and would probably never think to leave the house to use the water slide. OTOH, I do love some of the minor things in packs that make me glad I bought them. I love the Tiny House desk and entertainment center. I didn't even know about the lot incentives until you brought it up in a previous video! I overlook so much about the game without your input.
Satches's rank, bc I cant remember anything ever apparently.
GET IT: Paranormal, kids room, tiny living, Crystal creations,
MAYBE: toddler, laundry day, home chef hustle,
DESPERATION: cool kitchen, spooky, movie hangouts, vintage glamor, bowling night,
DON'T BOTHER: Luxury party, perfect patio, romantic garden, backyard stuff, fitness stuff, nifty knitting,
Lul no: my first pet.
Who else thinks that we're going to see the rest if satch's don't bother tier for free later?
Absolutely love these reviews. I don't buy anything now without checking out your vids, I recently bought paranormal after checking out your main video
The Luxury Party position is the only one that makes no sense to me. "It has things that can be found on High School Years and My First Wedding": both more expensive, super buggy and generally not recommended. Also, on sale it's about the price of a kit and comparing to kits it's actually a pretty good value.
Vampiers and spooky stuff were the first packs i ever bought.. i love halloween lol
If it was to be released now, the Luxury Party stuff pack and Moschino pack would be kits.
Perfect Patio : Don't bother, but I got it free. Same for Romantic Garden.
There is a problem with the outdoors movie screen : It's NOT weather proof. Any rain will break it.
I tried Laundry Day... And even my neat Sims never stopped dropping dirty clothes everywhere EXCEPT in the available laundry baskets. My rating : MFPS.
Paranormal is probably my favorite. I love the clothing styles and the decor. I probably use this pack in all my CAS and my builds. I was pleasantly surprised with Crystal Creations. (I didn’t get it until the bug was fixed)
I wish that with each of the stuff packs (or expansion packs or whatever) came with one new tattoo based on the pack...
Butler works perfectly fine for me. Albeit they are little slow and I hate that we can’t pick our butler it’s always random person freshly generated by the game.
But maybe I’m just lucky.
HCH is a MUST HAVE if you like building modern homes. It’s genuinely the best kitchen for modernity.
The ads are so funny to me with how much they have to stretch individual items and make it seem cool and entertaining in fifty slightly different ways because that’s literally that’s all in the pack. It feels like the ads are actually struggling to fill the time because that’s how few items there are and how boring they are
The only reason I am considering buying vintage glamour is for that globe bar lmao 😹😭 like I just wish I could have the not actual bars in my sims houses if I want to give them bars, but like, I won’t buy a whole stuff pack just for that. So I’m just hoping that they eventually give that out for free 🤞🤞🤞
Vintage glamour is perfect if you can use mods to fix the butler. Thanks to lms and simvasion my butler works 99% really well. I absolutely love it for my rich sims.
You post at the exact time I start looking for videos to listen to while I work. Also what's with all the people with butts and gooches as profile pictures lol
I love the knitting pack because you can craft things for your home. In a "castaway" challenge, where you have to build everything, it's really enjoyable, and the broken rug is really fun. However, the crystal creations pack is too easy; it's basically a cheat pack. The only truly deep gameplay I see in it is creating a jewelry store.
gotta love my first wedding stuff 😭😭🤣
I think nifty knitting deserves a better score, top tier even. Knitting is a nice hobby for all sims aged child and above, not only elders. It allows gameplay to make your own clothes which can't be found anywhere else in the sims 4. Plopsy is great for selling a lot of craftables and there is gameplay integration with cottage living. It is my favourite stuff pack.
Moschino also deserves one category up because of the photography. That's the real selling point for this pack because the clothing, just like the Moschino brand, is awful.
Perfect patio on the other hand should be next to my first pets stuff. That pack has no point after hot tubs were patched into base game.
Funny that My First Pet is in its own tier since it's the only stuff pack that requires another pack outside of the base game in order to buy.
But for real, the stuff packs that the Sims players universally agree are not worth buying are the ones that should be offered for free for a limited time by EA.
They really need to make toddler improvements to base game so that they can go to parks and libraries for non active households. It would add a lot of life to those lots.
Edit: now that I think about it, that would be a great bug report lol. "Parents from other housholds never bring todlers and babies to parks"
Honestly the only reason I mostly download these stuff packs is because of the Afro textured hair. For a game about diversity they don’t have much in the hair department for base game. And as a person who plays on console it’s boring because we don’t have mods
I enjoy the ice cream maker. I use it to change my sims weight around. I also use the butler all the time from the other pack. I wish someone told me sooner how awesome the tiny living pack is and how it works well with the eco pack. Great for rags to riches.
Get it when on sale: paranormal. This is the good pack.
Maybe when on sale: Tiny Living and Crystal Creation are the cheat packs.
The rest is quite forgettable. Wait till ea messes up again and hands them out for free.
Oh, wait, Moschino does enhance the photography gameplay.
Also, I consider buying the Boring Chores Stuff Pack next time it's on sale. I hear there are wicked whims animations for the the washing machine. Also the latest update of ww seems to involve panties so maybe having a hemper would be nice.
Why is Crystal Creations and Tiny Living the same tier? Tiny Living doesn't even add any new skill Crystal Creations adds a new major skill that goes up to lvl 10 and actually gives a reason to hunt for the crystals
idk why but butlers work totally fine for me hahah so i love the gameplay as it is really nice to have a live-in butler with sims who own massive houses
Im just glad i got my first pets stuff when it was free ☺️💕💕💕
I love this pack, its one of my favorites, glad its fixed, I love paranormal, and I love cottage living, my absolutely favorites, I also enjoy the chef one but right now its crystal creations all the way !!!!
After a few months of not playing I decided to come back to Sims 4 and even though I do agree most packs are cash grabs I’ll defend Nifty Knitting’s honor. The CAS and BnB is subjective, however the gameplay is really nice and can be added to different styles: if you are a family/legacy player you can use it as a hobby for your elders and make onesies for new borns and your grandparents sims can teach their grandchildren; if you want to do rags to riches but with a little extra struggle don’t sell from the inventory and use Plopsy (that you can’t cheese like Trendi) since you can sell other craftables like paintings, flower arrangements, candles, etc; and even just everyday gameplay if you want a Sim to be more rounded and knits as a stress relief or side hustle.
Edit: since you like the gameplay of having a shop you can make a knitted clothing store.
Is crystal creations fixed now?
No no no. Romantic garden can not be on the same lvl as luxury party.☝️ The well is so funny.. especially if it gives you the opposite of what you wished for. 😂
But I mostly agree with you. I appreciate so much that you are not this cheerful "I am so excited for everythiiiiiing" " I will use that all the tiiiiiime" simmer. Refreshingly rational. Thank you
I've got the Paranormal stuff pack and my game becomes so much fun!
i absolutely love the bb of the fitness pack i use it in every thing i ever make lol
"Most of it is just socks!"
Now I'll have you know that knitting socks was the main reason I got this pack. I blame the finn in me
For me the kid stuff was a must bc i always plays with big families generations abc challanges 100 baby ects
❤ the review.... I got many of these in packages discord did... that were 3 for the and an expansion pack for 40$ usd... so I feel it. 😂 I hate the monster battle.... never works... 😅
I only got Fitness Stuff to practice climbing more easily for My Komorebi hikes
I love the butler and haven’t had any issues!
I legit did not even know the desert lux or little campers even existed! 😂
I got my first pet stuff the other day because it was free with cats and dogs (on Xbox it’s now like a bundle you can’t really get one without the other) and I have not used it ONCE 😭it’s so terrible. I like cats and dogs though.
Why was my first pet stuff already in the lowest tier? Did I miss a part of the video??
Because everyone tends to know it’s the worst pack, you have to already own cats and dogs to buy it so it’s dlc for dlc
I think he’s always done that on the stuff pack rating videos. It’s such a bad pack that it gets its own tier and isn’t even worth discussing 😂
What tiny living is missing, is a world with tiny lots. There are just not enough small lots.
Serious question, how do I stop the awful EA app from launching whenever I restart my computer? It's so much like EA to think they are the only reason I have a computer *rolls eyes hard*
I had the same opinion about the kitchen stuff pack until i learned that you can use the ice cream machine to make your sims skinny 😂 that made it so worth it for me.
my favourite stuff packs are Home Chef Hustle and Nifty Knitting
my least favourite stuff packs are Moschino and Luxury Party
Backyard Stuff is actually my favorite pack of all. I like the CAS. I like the wind chimes. I like the drink tray. I like the fence. I like the candles. It was made for me. Not everyone probably would like it quite like me. Someone asked me which pack I liked the most yesterday, and I said quite honestly Backyard Stuff.
Before buying any pack that's even on sale, I watch your videos and syd mac😂❤❤
I own 99% of SP on "Desperation" and "Don't Bother" tier ngl 💀
The fact that we dont have cinema lot or bowling lot type is just crazy… 🤯🥲
love your brutal honesty LOL
Love your reviews and videos❤❤❤
Is crystal creations even safe to buy yet? I thought it made your Sims look like Sid the sloth and corrupted save files or something?
any suggestions on which mod is the best when it comes to laundry day pack?
Movie hangout is TRASH! It offers nothing, and I definitely had to remove the popcorn machine. The Vintage glamor Butler is horrible,I use LittleMsSam’s mod instead. I like bowling but group bowling is buggy. I love nifty knitting, I also have a mod to make the items natural colors. Paranormal and Crystal Creation are my top 2! But crystal creation needs more male jewelry designs
Should consider gameplay elements for all of the packs. Like the popcorn is annoying but if you can use mods, there are fixes, and you can actually sell the popcorn in Home Chef. They may have tuned it down for that stuff pack. Maybe you can make a vid testing it out. Romantic Garden has the wishing well which I think adds major gameplay elements considering you can spawn a spouse and children or have bad luck. Bowling is a great pack since it integrates with the club features to create those bowling teams and rivalries. I think the Sims 4 is garbage but I can see a lot more positive in the stuff packs than presented in the vid. Sometimes I think people really need to dig into the stuff packs on their own because EA can't be bothered to actually document everything the packs add like events, dialogue, gameplay elements, moods, activities. Moschino is garbage but there is the Photo Studio options. I would recommend Ravasheen's mods for better camera options but Moschino pack allows you to have family poses and post them in your home. I think another vid about deep dives into the stuff packs would be interesting to see what you learn and we can see stuff we missed. edited : for confusing sentence
Yes! I feel like I have to make a spreadsheet to figure out all the things I didn't know about like events, additional dialogue, moods, careers...I don't even know what the whole list of possible additions is.
So how do you feel about My First Pet Stuff?
Great vid Satch! Thank you ❤
Is anyone else getting the jewelry_tracker last exception from the Crystal Creations pack? My game isn't heavily modded. Just WW, MCCC and UI cheat extensions. No CC either.
Try to update the mods to the latest version and repair your game! If you still have issues take out the mods to check if they are the problem
spooky or Moschino?
Do we make a betting pool for which one is free next? lol
Thanks for the video! I think your assessments of each pack are pretty fair. I have to say, though, I don't think PP is a "don't bother," unless you're not interested in hot tubs at all. The bg hot tub is fugly as heck. And nobody should buy the buggy abomination that is For Rent, full stop. I also would have ranked NK as a "maybe" based simply on whether you're interested in having the knitting skill or not. If you are, it's well worth it because the cas and bb are also decent, as you noted.
My goal is to play the Sims long enough to get all of the packs for free (going good so far) 👍
I bought the fitness stuff pack just for the ear pods😢😅
EA never disappoint for their greediness
Cool! Thanks for the video!
alot of packs i bought, for specific reasons, you consider not worth it. i dont value your opinion when you down everything i enjoy. youre wrong!
if the paranormal pack isn't S tier, im unsubscribing
edit: this channel is safe for now
Kid , People have opinions
Honestly the only thing I use out of Tiny Living is the combo tv, radio, & bookshelf. I use it a lot, but… $10 for one build/buy item? 🤣
The tiny living lot bonuses just seem like cheats/shortcuts. If you want your game to be even easier than it already is, apply tiny home…
I find with quite a few stuff packs there are two or three things I use a lot but the overall pack still wasn't worth the money. 😂😂😂
@@TheDawnofVanlife Opinion on crystal creations?
First, love your honesty ❤❤
I'm not going to defend sims4, because they could do so much more, but I also feel you are not creative enough in terms of what you can do with build mode. And you also only think in british, which is really sad. The Romantic Garden only use it with Get Together?? Are you kidding me? It fits many kinds of european gardens and even fantasy builds. You also said the same for the castle kit, as if there arent castles in the rest of Europe and you can build castles in Tartosa too and even in the other brit worlds. Also I think these ranking vids shouldnt be done at all, because it depends on the taste of each person. I dont really care for Halloween either, but there are people who love it for example. And also what type of player you are, a builder, cas creator or a regular gameplay one or all of them. Sure, this is your channel and its your opinion, but could lead people in a wrong way
Romantic Garden is a great community lot pack. I mean I got it when it was free, but have found myself using little things from it all over my game. Also Satch's rankings are a total playstyle thing, but I hope most viewers know that. I was actually SHOCKED he gave a decent ranking to kids room stuff at all because he is not a family player really and usually doesn't like things I use literally all the time in game because I love family play.
Also, when he tries to guess what interest family players he's usually way wrong. Cause its not his play style. So sometimes I wish he would lead with 'this is based on my playstyle' which is 'X'.
THANK YOU for your commentary about Movie Hangout. The boho stuff is nice but it always confused me, I never understood why they didnt include cinema items like recliners, snack stands, outdoor beanbags etc etc and make a cinema like the bowling alleys from bowling night. So random to me.
i like luxury party cas stuff
sorry not sorry
Lol I think the most annoying pack is the dust ones for me bc the dust bunny’s are annoying me all the time.
Geezus, just looking at the amount of packs makes me realise how cash grabby EA is. Nah, I'm gonna continue playing TS3 when they actually gave a damn about their game 😅 I also recently bought TS1 and 2, but I forgot that I can't put cds into mu computer anymore 😭
You can get an external disc drive for not too much which hooks up with usb - that’s how I got Sims 2 on my laptop.
I’m so early!!
Please go work for EA!!!
I was just daydreaming that EA staff was ordered to make things that would make Satch ecstatic! If he wasn't thrilled, they would have to go back and make the changes he suggested.
he’s too honest for EA lol
Everything sucks now because the game is broken, so are most of the packs! I wouldn't recommend anything from Sims or EA! Most expensive worst game ever!!