@@mehrheitler I didn’t say you’d have to do “every possible move” just that you’d have to move every piece across the timelines. And with time travel and such, it’d be very plausible that every piece has a legal move, at least a couple of turns.
Sounds great. I like the idea of your pieces all charging into battle simultaneously and being able to set up some interesting defenses on your very first turn.
Quick estimate, after white's first move there are over 13000 possible positions (classical chess has 20). That's assuming each of the 6 pieces only had two possible destinations and there were only 10 pieces to choose from, both of which underestimate the real quantity. I wonder if computers would be any good at this variant. The old brute force + heuristic strategies would probably suffer, but maybe deep-learning has potential.
The number of positions after the opening isn't the most important difference, though. That number should even out with classical chess after the pieces have developed However, the number of *reachable* positions per move will remain quite large until the endgame. This is what will make the computation difficult. The graph is far more connected.
why would computers have a hard time with this? They would calculate each piece as a move, one at a time. You could use the same algorithms and it would play decently.
@@rexviperfan because the computer would play as if the opponet only has one or two moves which may leave positions that are normally totally safe broken wide open. For example a bishop defending a queen from an opposing queen, whilst the queen also defends the bishop from an opposing rook is normally an ok play. However in this variant of chess the opposing player can simply take both pieces at the same timr
@@Vaultyboi22 ; Chess algorithms already can look many moves ahead, so changing the turn order shouldn't complicate anything. It's going to evaluate the opponent's first move on its first iteration, and then their second move on the second iteration, so it's not going to miss any moves.
I got the impression that blocking yourself was legitimate, because it feels symmetrical with the rule that if you unblock your piece you must move it. More generally, I get the impression that it's legal if a piece was unblocked for part of your turn as long as it's blocked at the end. Like if piece A was blocked by piece B, and you move B but then move piece C to block A again.
I don't think it's right to say the rook has to move after castling "if able." After castling, a rook will always have at least the king's starting square as a movement option.
Just when I said that triple S was finally over his chess kick in my last video.... lol he produces another chess variant. I of course don’t mind, it’s just that I spoke too soon.
So does this game have stalemate? On the one hand, yes, standard chess clearly defines stalemate as occurring when the player to move has no legal moves and their king is not in check. But on the other hand, that's just because standard chess forces you to make exactly one move per turn, which isn't true in this variant. According to the rules of this variant, if a piece can't move, then its move is just skipped. It logically follows that if all of a player's pieces can't move, then all of the pieces' moves are skipped, so the turn simply passes to the opponent. Thus, no stalemate.
Video games are much more time consuming because I have to progress to certain points in order to explain certain rules. With Minecraft I can skip all that with creative mode.
@@TripleSGames but i mean not complex games but things like space invaders or jump man the arcade game you dont need an actual copy or anything you can just have clips
I do not understand this. Every time that your piece is able to move, you have to move? How else would you possibly play? Of course you can only move pieces that are able to move. This just seems like chess except each player gets six turns in a row
You have to move all of the pieces that are able to move. White can only move six times on their first turn, but after that, all of the pieces have to move.
Every time your piece is able to move, *the piece* has to move. This is different from regular chess because sometimes, on your turn, you have a piece that is able to move, but you don't move it. In this game, you can't leave that piece unmoved, because you have to move every piece that you can. Also, how did you come to that final conclusion? The concept of moving six times in one turn was mentioned only a single time in the video. The video explicitly said that the rule only applies to White on their first move, not for the entire game.
This sounds more like a chess variant bored kids casually made. I think we thought about this when we were kids but never thought about the white only moving 6pcs on the first move so we thought it was a bad game.
White can't because checking black's king from the starting position requires moving at least one piece twice. Black could pull off Fool's Mate on turn 1, I suppose (if white played moves that allowed it), although it's unlikely to happen in practice if white is at all competent. If anything it requires even more stupidity than the regular Fool's Mate because in addition to pushing the f- and g-pawns, white has to not move the d- or e-pawns, not play h4, and not move the queen or any of the kingside pieces. That means that white's four remaining moves have to be h3 and/or moving some of the pawns/pieces on the a-c files. I suppose white could be trying to make a "pawn fortress" with a3, b4, c3, f3, g4, h3 (which is stupid even without Fool's Mate because it mostly just traps your own bishops and knights by putting the pawns on the wrong-colored squares), but it still seems like it would be rare.
@@erickpoorbaugh6728That doesn't even work. White could always just move whatever piece is on d2, e2, or f1 at the time and escape that way, and even d1 can quickly be vacated in two moves. There is literally no way, no how Black delivers fool's mate.
Can you imagine this combined with 5D chess? Turns would take forever as you move every piece in every timeline, lol.
Not every… If a piece is able to move, you have to move it, not «you have to perform every possible move with it».
@@mehrheitler I didn’t say you’d have to do “every possible move” just that you’d have to move every piece across the timelines. And with time travel and such, it’d be very plausible that every piece has a legal move, at least a couple of turns.
Yu-gi-oh is basicaly that
That might be the only way to get a Multi dimensional stalemate in 5D chess
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Sounds great. I like the idea of your pieces all charging into battle simultaneously and being able to set up some interesting defenses on your very first turn.
I knew the last chess mod sped up the game but this is speeding up in a whole new level 😎
wowww :DD
these chess variants are getting unhinged - I love it
Quick estimate, after white's first move there are over 13000 possible positions (classical chess has 20). That's assuming each of the 6 pieces only had two possible destinations and there were only 10 pieces to choose from, both of which underestimate the real quantity.
I wonder if computers would be any good at this variant. The old brute force + heuristic strategies would probably suffer, but maybe deep-learning has potential.
The number of positions after the opening isn't the most important difference, though. That number should even out with classical chess after the pieces have developed
However, the number of *reachable* positions per move will remain quite large until the endgame. This is what will make the computation difficult. The graph is far more connected.
I wonder if alpha-beta pruning would help with that
why would computers have a hard time with this? They would calculate each piece as a move, one at a time. You could use the same algorithms and it would play decently.
@@rexviperfan because the computer would play as if the opponet only has one or two moves which may leave positions that are normally totally safe broken wide open.
For example a bishop defending a queen from an opposing queen, whilst the queen also defends the bishop from an opposing rook is normally an ok play. However in this variant of chess the opposing player can simply take both pieces at the same timr
@@Vaultyboi22 ; Chess algorithms already can look many moves ahead, so changing the turn order shouldn't complicate anything. It's going to evaluate the opponent's first move on its first iteration, and then their second move on the second iteration, so it's not going to miss any moves.
At last, the chess for people on a rush. I can play this minutes before class or something lol
I actually really like this variant concept! Only wish if it's on a bigger board tho.
Looks extremely difficult to play and make strategy... need to try :)
That sounds crazy chaotic. Should make for a quick game.
How many variants of chess are there? SSS games:Yes
Can't wait to try this out!
what happens when you move a piece that prevents one of your own pieces that you havent moved yet from moving?
I got the impression that blocking yourself was legitimate, because it feels symmetrical with the rule that if you unblock your piece you must move it.
More generally, I get the impression that it's legal if a piece was unblocked for part of your turn as long as it's blocked at the end. Like if piece A was blocked by piece B, and you move B but then move piece C to block A again.
Then you wouldn’t have to move it
So you can essentially prevent unwanted moves by blocking your own pieces eh? Sadly this is hard to use(Backwards issues).
What happens if you create a discovered check and then capture the king?
You win. "First player to capture or checkmate their opponent wins" 1:11
I don't think it's right to say the rook has to move after castling "if able." After castling, a rook will always have at least the king's starting square as a movement option.
It's not wrong to add the "if able" condition, just redundant.
Just when I said that triple S was finally over his chess kick in my last video.... lol he produces another chess variant. I of course don’t mind, it’s just that I spoke too soon.
Wow I like this game can u put a video of how to play Scotland yard
Did I already move this pawn this turn? I forget. I'll move it again just to be sure.
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So like kungfu chess but every pieces move once per turn and there is turn, nice
We did it, we have created Chess: the Gathering.
Can white captures any black piece in first six moves?
No, because none of White's pieces can reach.
So does this game have stalemate? On the one hand, yes, standard chess clearly defines stalemate as occurring when the player to move has no legal moves and their king is not in check.
But on the other hand, that's just because standard chess forces you to make exactly one move per turn, which isn't true in this variant. According to the rules of this variant, if a piece can't move, then its move is just skipped. It logically follows that if all of a player's pieces can't move, then all of the pieces' moves are skipped, so the turn simply passes to the opponent. Thus, no stalemate.
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LMAO
Lol 😂
can you do how to play on video games please you did one on minecraft before
Video games are much more time consuming because I have to progress to certain points in order to explain certain rules. With Minecraft I can skip all that with creative mode.
@@TripleSGames but i mean not complex games but things like space invaders or jump man the arcade game you dont need an actual copy or anything you can just have clips
How many chess variants you have? Tell me.
Considering there are two thousand known and named variations, some of which are a family of variants in themselves... We got lots.
this is just like a war in real life
looking out for discovered checks will be so important here
I do not understand this. Every time that your piece is able to move, you have to move? How else would you possibly play? Of course you can only move pieces that are able to move. This just seems like chess except each player gets six turns in a row
You have to move all of the pieces that are able to move. White can only move six times on their first turn, but after that, all of the pieces have to move.
Every time your piece is able to move, *the piece* has to move. This is different from regular chess because sometimes, on your turn, you have a piece that is able to move, but you don't move it. In this game, you can't leave that piece unmoved, because you have to move every piece that you can.
Also, how did you come to that final conclusion? The concept of moving six times in one turn was mentioned only a single time in the video. The video explicitly said that the rule only applies to White on their first move, not for the entire game.
This sounds more like a chess variant bored kids casually made.
I think we thought about this when we were kids but never thought about the white only moving 6pcs on the first move so we thought it was a bad game.
Chess but is Advance Wars
Love it
I upload at 6 pm
Online swarm chess tournament where >:v
this is chess but all at once
Sooooo..... RTS chess?
What is that
London system fans must be ecstatic right now
*Aggressive bishop and knight noises in the backround*
but couldn't you theoretically checkmate the king on your first turn?
How?
No, because the opponent could move a pawn and then the king could escape.
White can't because checking black's king from the starting position requires moving at least one piece twice.
Black could pull off Fool's Mate on turn 1, I suppose (if white played moves that allowed it), although it's unlikely to happen in practice if white is at all competent. If anything it requires even more stupidity than the regular Fool's Mate because in addition to pushing the f- and g-pawns, white has to not move the d- or e-pawns, not play h4, and not move the queen or any of the kingside pieces. That means that white's four remaining moves have to be h3 and/or moving some of the pawns/pieces on the a-c files. I suppose white could be trying to make a "pawn fortress" with a3, b4, c3, f3, g4, h3 (which is stupid even without Fool's Mate because it mostly just traps your own bishops and knights by putting the pawns on the wrong-colored squares), but it still seems like it would be rare.
@@erickpoorbaugh6728That doesn't even work. White could always just move whatever piece is on d2, e2, or f1 at the time and escape that way, and even d1 can quickly be vacated in two moves. There is literally no way, no how Black delivers fool's mate.
"if a piece is unable to move, then it doesn't move" I hear ya 💀
Nice
Similar to the blinking chess
chess swarm simulator lol
“If a piece is unable to move then it dosen’t move”
*YOU DIDINT HAVE TO CU-*
Chess: Total War
Maybe I shall call his Six Chess
Why?
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Bees playing Chess
Hi
Where is passant?
Heraldry, primarily.
And I am from india
chess but it is zerg rush
Chess but there is no strategy
this is yugioh chess
where en passant
First!
This absolutely makes no sense
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Spanktong my beloved
This looks ridiculous tbh
0:31 i wanted white to win so i let him out