There's a flash game called Chess evolved which builds exactly on this idea dunno if its still running but when i played, it was fun... but tough to learn all the pieces and their movements as there're a lot
the jester seems like an interesting concept... like a wild blocker who'll just get in front of offending pieces and be annoying, useful to bait the opponent into using their freezer unit to hold that in place... and the one that bounces off the walls seems amazing, and sorta forces people to enforce their sidelines, and especially interesting with the mercenary, as it'd be rather easy to forget that it could bounce off half the board, so "nothing's anywhere close enough nor has a direct line of sight" doesn't even apply
Thief seems OP. Being able to capture without moving into that place makes things a lot more complicated for the other player, at the low cost of five points.
Yeah, if a piece is attacked by a thief, to defend you have to separately defend the thief's eventual square for that attack, even if the piece was already defended normally. That might not even be possible and if it is then they can simply not capture, and instead exploit whatever weakness was created by the defending move.
Thief doesn't seem that bad, but I feel like Mercenary would be one of those pieces no one really wants to use? Who wants to put a piece on their team that can only be controlled by the enemy.
I always wondered why there were never any variations on chess. Or radical ideas. Yet now I understand. Changing chess is like reinventing the wheel. This seems to make it crazy complicated. It's almost an entirely new game.
Prime example of why different isn't better. A lot of the new pieces just mess with the flow of chess too much and deviate it away from the strategic nature of the game. Too many possible moves with the different pieces means that you can't really master the game like you can with chess.
There have been attempts at creating variations on chess. They all run into similar problems. New pieces tend to be rather gimmicky in their rules and either add too much complexity or break the balance of the existing pieces. Extending the board in any given dimension and adding filler pieces doesn't really change the game enough to justify it becoming a new standard. Doing both tends to shake up the game so much that taking over "market share" is difficult and forming a new standard isn't likely to occur for generations to come. Shogi shows that there is the potential for a new variant of chess to arise some time in the future - but it is not likely the people who create that version will see or realize it as the future of chess. It will just be that some many decades or centuries in the future, people will play more of that than the classic version of chess we play, today.
Most of these pieces look useless due to their two space moves, but I like the idea of the mercenary. The game Lionheart, a sort of way out there chess type game, also has a mercenary that functions similarly: he can be bribed by the enemy king to switch sides. You should do Lionheart sometime!
The fact that they may not be great prices is counteracted by there lower cost to pieces that are better what I'm most curious about is how much the base game pieces cost
@@pandabunny8521 You can see them at 1:20. Knight looks insanely undercosted. Prob best strat is to run nothing but Soldiers and Knights, maybe a couple Rooks.
@@sdsprd Towers over rooks, for certain. Any piece that can attack any adjacent square is inherently nuts. Imagine a board where any piece can deliver a mate that's normally only available to queens.
I like this variant with one change, the stalemate rule. It encourages the one who is ahead to stalemate, while it should be the opposite. I would keep the traditional stalemate rules unchanged or say the one with the *lowest* wins if Stalemate happens.
I like your suggestion, it would provide a comeback mechanic for the losing player and it would also keep the player who is ahead from getting too cocky or overconfident because now they have to always keep stalemate in mind.
with both the herald and the inquisitor being able to cause instant stalemates i think causing stalemates is supposed to be an actual strategy that the other player has to account for and try to capture enough of their pieces so they cant stalemate without losing
8bitAlex no, it doesn’t. Stalemate is a draw, neither side wins, or loses. If you are about to lose, you should play for a stalemate. There are situations where you can force your opponent to stalemate you, and these situations are well known by grand masters. In tournament play, two players will often go for a draw instead of trying to win, because it is to their mutual advantage. This is scored the exact same as a stalemate, which is a form of draw. I don’t know where you got the idea that you should never play for a stalemate.
I wonder if there could exist a sort of freeze build that’s all about not letting your opponent move their pieces with all the freezers, getting a material advantage and stalemating by sending a freezer onto the enemy king
@@milkman4407 Me and my friend did that with our inquisitors, but I had the big brain move of moving my king to his inquisitor (since it couldn't move) and forced a stalemate, I had more stalemate value so I won.
I had to listen to his explanation like four times to get it. The player controls the mercenary of the opposite color, but only when it is threatened; this is why the white mercenary captures white's pawn. So moving the mercenary to another threatened space is a good move.
What if you move the herald or the inquisitor next to the opponent’s king but they still have other pieces they can move? What if it’s a discovered check? Is it still a stalemate?
@@caltheuntitled8021 Neither the herald or the inquisitor have stalemate value, so including them in for that strategy alone would put on the back foot and forcing you into gaining the stalemate advantage begore you can proceed, and all the two spaces jumping pieces should be able to take it out no problem, since they can capture it from futher out of it's range. This means that for a stalemate strategy, you would need to play enough moves to gain the lead, while playing with a literal blockeade on the side of your board you can't get rid off for the whole game, and that your opponent is still able to attack in order to ruin your play. You migth choose the inquisitor for a piece you can more easily keep on your side of the board until ready, but at a higher demand, since the inquisitor adds to the point lead you need. Also both pieces have a limited move range and can't capture, meaning you can block them at no risk from them
*"What if you move the herald or the inquisitor next to the opponent’s king but they still have other pieces they can move?"* The king is frozen and so can't order any of the other pieces to move. The game is a stalemate.
A few of the new pieces I recognised from other chess variant games: the peasant moves like a Berolina pawn, the soldier moves like a king but is not as important, and the tower moves like the dragon king from shogi.
Herald and inquisitor look fun, soldier and peasant are also good changes to the pawn specially because of the whole cost system. I really like jester as a counter to queen trades, but problem being picking jester means you start with a disadvantage compared to the opponents queen, jester mirror matches seem to be a nightmare. Mercenary is an amazing idea to prevent offensive setups. two square movement on rank 2 sucks tho
I mean it trades one advantage for another. Being unable to be captured means you can throw it in the middle of otherwise dangerous positions to create some novel counterplay. I'd be hard-pressed to believe it's as strong as a queen but, perhaps appropriate to its name, I think what you could accomplish with it might be hard to predict for the opponent.
@@petemagnuson7357 That's not the point. Every chess variation video ends with «the first player to checkmate their opponent - wins» and an example of that. Not because it differs from the original rules but because it's the way to end chess videos.
There was a webtoon I read where the MC and his friend play a custom chess ruleset the author dubbed The Northseas Rules (A Region in the story). The Board was extended to be 13 spaces wide (so the field was still 4 spaces apart), both sides recieve 2 extra Knight, Bishop, and 1 Queen, The Queens were replaced with 2 Warships (though i imagine its just for looks as the warship still acts as queen. Edit 2: i think rather than warship its a Trade Ship and they can move like queens but get the Supply Route rule), and they had this Supply Route rule: If there is a gap of anysize between two of the same sides pawn (ex. White-pawn, space, space, space, White-pawn) and another piece of the same side lands in between (ex. W.P,, space, Knight, space, W.P) , that piece can move again. other than that normal rules still applied. i always wondered how it would actually be played IRL.
i really enjoyed hearing about the rules for this game! i absolutely love deck-building games and turning chess into one is very creative, especially with all the new pieces' movements and rules. it opens up a ton of new strategies and tactics; for example, many people were talking about potential stalemating strategies (provided you're good enough to get ahead in stalemate points) and people were talking about the potential endgames with the Regent (sacrificing some of your points to upgrade the king rather than get stronger military)
I feel like this should be called “feudal chess”, because this is more about the costs to buy different kinds of pieces. “Faerie chess” should be a lot more magical, like having pieces with secret roles, and choosing your move on paper secretly, then flipping over the paper to show your move at the same time. Other things to make it more magical would be to have things like rooks be chosen where they should be placed on the back two ranks, and then not be able to be moved or removed for the duration of the game (and also prohibit any piece from jumping over it), and have the ability to kill an opponent piece adjacent to it (without moving) as long as an ally piece is also adjacent to it (i.e. the rook actually works like a real castle fortification, as opposed to just looking like one).
I believe it is called "Faerie chess" because of the existing term "Fairy chess". "Fairy chess" refers to a type of game that is a modified version of chess. Basically, all chess variants are a type of Fairy chess and since this is a "build your own chess" game, "Faerie chess" seems to be a fitting name.
IMO, simultaneous turns or secret information opens a sufficiently big can of worms in terms of necessary rule changes that it should just be a different game and not considered a chess variant. To be a chess variant, I would say things should be as follows: 1. Players take turns making moves. Some special moves may involve multiple pieces (like castling) but there is only and exactly one move per turn. 2. Captures are not generally forced. 3. The game state can be sufficiently describe using the position, not orientation, of all pieces, who's turn it is, whether special move rights are still present, and the last move played (needed for en passant). 4. The game is played on a board with four-sided tiles arranged so each tile has tiles which are adjacent and/or diagonal to it. 5. Chess and variants are perfect information deterministic games once the first move is played. That is, there is zero ambiguity about what will occur when a move is executed. 6. Only one piece may occupy a tile at a given time. 7. There are no other kinds of moves besides placing, moving, or capturing with a piece.
I can’t believe Gary Chess finally released the DLC pieces we’ve been waiting for. I can’t wait for Chess 2, I’ve heard they’re finally making the jump to 3D. I hope they include the DLC for free though and add new pieces instead of making us pay for old content.
New pieces are fine by me (makes me question about how certain things work, but I’ll assume it’s something I’d get used to over time), but the whole “adding up points” isn’t my style. I’d prefer starting with a traditional set, then trading out pieces based on cost AFTER the game has started with some rules added to facilitate that.
Actually peasant moves opposite move from pawn and tower moves like promoted rook in Japanese chess and courtesan moves like chaturanga elephant and king
Regent really isn't an upgrade to the King. Being forced to move two spaces makes it significantly easier to checkmate a Regent via enemy positioning and friendly unit movement blocking. It also means that half the board is unable to be attacked by a Regent, similar to how Bishops normally work where they're confined to their starting square's color. Then add the fact that it costs 15 points to play versus the 0 for a normal King and there's absolutely no reason to pick it.
Peasant: A powerful pawn Soldier: a non-valuable king Herald: A Rook with limited movement Tower: A rook that can move diagonally Chamberlain:A limited movement rook combined with a pawn Theif:A Mini Queen that captures without landing on the captured piece Lancer:The Older brother of the knight Catapult:A Mini Rook Inquisitor:A non-royalty king that can move 2 spaces horizontal or vertical but can't capture and freezes opponents pieces Pontiff:A bishop that can bounce on the board Courtesan:A non-royalty king that can jump 2 spaces diagonally Jester:A Queen that can't capture nor be captured Regent:a King that moves 2 spaces in any direction but movement becomes queen-like when the queen is captured Mercenary:A backstabbing piece
I've always wanted to expand faerie chess to encompass every single other modified chess piece in creation. Every other secondary set of chess rules where pieces move differently, I want them in there. Every other unique piece, I want them in there. Knightmares, I want them in there. Knights that can be mounted, I want them in there. You get the idea. I want to take it further. Spend some of your points to enforce optional rules. Spend some of your points to force unusual board shapes. Then take it even further. Game are in year long "seasons" where each match you play increases the total number of points you can put into a match, you can only match if two players are within 10% and you play at the lower value. Yearly champions exist for highest point reached, highest ranking and total highest score of pieces between all games.
Suggestion=bowman:moves 1 square diagonally only,but kills hostile pieces in a 3-5 block radius and only does that straight, it does not move to that square of the piece bcuz obviously they use bows and arrow
I like the idea of a chess variant where you pick and choose your pieces and their positions. I don’t like the incredible variety and power of pieces Faerie Chess adds. I understand that it’s to tie into the point system and make army composition a more strategic matter, but some of these pieces are just too powerful. And there is plenty of strategic value in just the placement of your pieces already. I’ll try a few games of Faerie Chess, but I’ll probably end up designing a version with less (powerful) pieces
peasant: basically barolina pawn soldier: king without check or checkmate Harold: free stalemate tower: better rook chamberlain: pawn but advanced(without promotion) thief: OP catapult: camel inquisitor: H A R O L D pontiff: bishop but pong ball courtesan: ok piece jester: BAD QUEEN regent: king with extra rizz Mercenary: MEH piece
Actually this is real reason: 1. Tower moves like promoted rook in Japanese chess 2. Courtesan moves like chaturanga elephant and king 3. Peasant moves opposite move of pawn
It's interesting that the solider can't promote. The herald and inquisitor are very interesting since they exist to get stalemates and invite different play patterns with their freeze and half freeze effects. The Reagent sounds busted if the queen is killed, I feel like he could solo late game so it makes sense that he costs the most. The mercenary is something else :P A very cool version I definitely want to try this some day!
I feel like the jester is pretty trash excepting endgames against a normal pawn. like if you play jester you're throwing away value because you could literally just have a queen
@@thebee0320 To a degree, yes, but the fact that it isn't capturable (meaning that opponent pieces have to take two moves minimum to go around it) mean that it's a fairly important piece when it comes to taking out strong pieces or forcing your opponent into what you want. Altogether, I'd argue it's as valuable as the queen, even without being allowed to capture.
The real appeal to this is that it removes a lot of the advantages that a more experienced chess player would have against a new player, since a lot of the early game in chess is just memorizing openings. This makes it so that both players have to come up with an early game on the fly instead of using book moves, at least giving non-chess-players at your board game night a fighting chance against people who might frequently play chess.
I think Faerie Chess looks pretty cool! I would love to try it but unfortunately it’s out of stock. Do you have any information on when it will be back?
This video is awesome. And I am blown away by all the cool new chess pieces. However I have a suggestion for a new piece. Put this one in the royal category. The Princess. Can move 4 spaces either vertically, horizontally, or diagonally. Can capture pieces. And IF it reaches the other side of the board it can be promoted to Queen.
Pessant: opposite moves of pawn Soldier: king but less important Herald: cant capture but dont let other pieces move Tower: roock but whit one more move Chamberlain: better castles but only for ranks 3 Thief: dont capture, kidnaps Lancer: horses bigger brother Inquisitor: better herald Pontiff: boncy boy Cortasan: \_('_')_/don't know Jester: annoying space filler queen Regent: king but two times more move and becomes queen when queen dies but still can't be capture or move to be captured or you loses Mercenary: treteners piece
Actually, this is the real reason: 1. Spelling mistakes 2. Courtesan moves like chaturanga elephant and king 3. Tower technically moves like promoted rook in Japanese chess 4. Pontiff moves like bishop but bounces on the board but may not end on the space he started on
This game customization reminds me of a game called Chess Evolved Online. Its quite unknown but its chess and you can put different pieces with different movesets. It has slightly different rules to accomodate for the change and its awesome. Its just a bit unfortunate that the game is quite unknown and rarely gets updated.
when it comes to catapult, i have a custom rule that it can catapult adjacent pieces (opponent or not) 3 to 5 squares in the direction away from the catapult, capturing other pieces the 'projectile' lands on if the projectile piece is to the left of the catapult, it shoots 3 to 5 to the left, if it lands on another piece it gets captured, if the projectile goes off the board it is captured (note: this also means you capture pieces of your own colour, whether its by catapulting them off the board, or catapulting other pieces onto them) you may move 2 spaces in any direction (including mixed) but can not take pieces without catapulting, and can not catapult royal pieces
Most of those pieces are good if you want to annoy your opponent, and I guess could be a breath of fresh air for veteran players who got bored of the classic game
Tower is a direct upgrade of Rook, Pontiff is a direct upgrade of Bishop, Knight has no direct upgrade, Soldier is a direct of upgrade of Pawn. Regent is situational, Jester is also situational. The rest of the pieces are either just suck due to their two spaces move or weird gimmick. Especially the two pieces that allow you to just initiate a stalemate in case you are losing or the enimies can also stalemate themselves which is bad, any pieces that encourage stalemate should be remove.
@Tn02bv Actually due to it longer L shape movements, it can be hard to capture pieces that just 1 square apart. This is one of the pieces that kind of move too far for it to be of any uses and I consider it to be worse than just the regular knight.
It reminds me of the duke. Also except with the rank one pieces the pawn like ones, I would just have said orthogonally for all other pieces that move both vertically and horizontally. Personally I would have like after talking about all the pieces gameplay with lots of new pieces to showcase while talking over it to explain just what happened. Some of these pieces I am all for. Some I don't know that I love. Some seemed way to repetitive to the point of unnecessary to making me want to repick or redesign what is allowed. But I will say it interested me from the get go.
I feel like the pawn replacements are obnoxious lmao. Like imagine playing an endgame where your opponents pawns are literally just kings but you can sac them. Imagine trying to stop a peasant from promoting. Imagine a middlegame where your opponent just squeezes you with a line full of kings
Yeah, there's likely some balance issues to buff out but these options are open to both players and hopefully the points shook out to where taking a full line of soldiers means you can't bring some of the other strong pieces just for cost. They didn't go over base piece costs but a full line of peasants would be 16 points and full soldiers 24. If you're only playing 50-something then that's half the force in super pawns that CAN get nullified by a couple heralds or inquisitors.
The piece I would want to add would be: The Tailor. What it does is have 2 needles it can place on the board, like a trap. Upon running into these needles, a piece gets stuck for 2 moves, and the needle goes back to the tailor. If a piece hits a needle a second time, it dies.
I can see a strong case for stalemate strats, like obviously you're taking jester for 12 garunteed points, then build an army out of "game ends in stalemate if this bitch is near a king" pieces and try to end it fast
Peasant: poor boi :( Soldier: MAGGOTS! Herald: "Stay down." Tower: demoknight Chamberlain: jumpy boi Thief: *casually steals the pawn's souls* Lancer: *t a l l k n i g h t* Catapult: a literal catapult Inquisitor: a friendlier version of the Herald Pontiff: a bouncy BALLER Courtesan: a jumpy king Jester: comedian
Actually this is real reason: 1.Peasant moves opposite move of pawn 2. Tower moves like promoted rook in Japanese chess 3. Courtesan moves like chaturanga elephant and king 4. Need regent and mercenary.
Clearly some ideas were taken from a Japanese game called Shogi. It's basically a better version of Chess, even though Japan may not even had known about Chess existing at the time. Fun fact: Both Chess and Shogi were derived from the same Indian game, don't remember the name of it though.
*Peasant* - Is actually worse than a pawn, AI values them at around 0.7 pawns. 2 pawns is a severe overvaluation. *Soldier* - Balanced and Correctly valued. *Herald* - Very overvalued, and can permanently lock in your own pieces if your opponent puts a bishop in front of it. It’s movement is also extremely restrictive, as it can only access a quarter of the board. and I’d say 2 points is more accurate. *Tower* - Undervalued. Almost as powerful as a Rook and Bishop combined from my couple primitive AI tests, but I can see why. *Chamberlain* - Haven’t really dug into this one yet, but it’s movement appears very restrictive. Ability may have some niche scenarios in which its good. *Thief* - A bishop for a piece that can access half its squares seems like a ripoff. It’s ability almost makes up for it though, even though it can only control 9 squares at a time and only 32 squares ever. *Lancer* - Much testing shows this piece is worth less than a Knight, due to it being colorbound and it having too big movements for an 8x8 board. *Catapult* - Worth hardly more than a pawn, because it can access a pitiful 9 squares on the entire board. *Inquisitor* - An instant win if you’re material up if it can get close to the enemy king. The stalemate rule is really unbalanced with this piece. Keep in mind pawns cannot capture it under any circumstance and it can be difficult to get rid of it. *Pontiff* - Love this piece, very original and cool ability. 8 is a fairly low valuation though, it should be around 12 id say. *Courtesan* - Very overvalued, probably worth less than a knight for its bad leaping ability and the ease to approach or attack it. *Jester* - 12 points is a very high valuation if you aren’t extremely skilled with the Jester. It could probably be worth this many points to a “Faery Chess Grandmaster”. *Regent* - Very overpowered. Instantly wins the game if you force a queen trade. Useless otherways. Useless with a Jester too, since it can’t be captured. *Mercenary* - Cool idea, but again is severely limited by its 2 space jumping movement which this game seems to like. 2 space jumping makes you only able to access a quarter of the board (3 spaces makes this an eighth).
The herald sounds like a fascinating piece. Instead of completely removing pieces, the player can instead simply disable pieces in a certain area, including their own. … I’ll admit, though, I don’t really know much about chess. I just clicked the video because it has faerie in the title, eheh.
Here’s the most interesting pieces IMO: The Jester is basically an INVINCIBLE QUEEN, in that it cannot be captured, nor can it make any captures itself. The Regent is a more powerful version of the King, which can move TWO spaces at once rather than one, and otherwise follows the same rules as the regular King. However, that ends when the Queen is captured (if you’re using the queen), as when this happens, the Regent gains the Queen’s powers, and is then able to move freely around the board along any straight or diagonal line. However, unlike the King, the Regent can be captured like any other piece, meaning that it is very vulnerable. This means that you can either have a regular King and a piece who cannot die and who’s only goal is to annoy the other player, or a Regent and a regular Queen that, when killed, sends the Regent into GOD MODE, allowing it to literally move ANYWHERE. Just remember that the Regent is EXTREMELY vulnerable to attack…and that it’s VERY easy to lose in a matter of seconds if you aren’t careful. Honestly, now that I think about it, the Jester may be the better option. The other two interesting pieces are the Herald and the Inquisitor. The Herald is a peacekeeper of sorts, preventing ANY pieces in its immediate vicinity from moving at all. The Inquisitor is a one-sided version of the Herald that gives you a HUGE strategic advantage: any of your opponents pieces within its immediate vicinity cannot move, but YOUR pieces still can! This allows you to sort of “lock” your opponent in place, allowing you to make moves against them without them fighting back-something that’s impossible in normal chess. Oh, and I almost forgot the Pontiff! This piece can do something that no other chess piece ever made can: IT CAN BOUNCE OFF OF THE FREAKING WALLS!!!!! This allows it to slide right past enemy defenses and can therefore pose a SERIOUS threat to your opponent!
If you literally just replace all the pieces you said would cost: 56, too low. Counting the other units you didn´t want to replace: 88, too high. I guess that´s the balancing of the game.
1. Berolina 2. King (not royal) 3. Dabbaba (but can not capture, frost follows, pushes pawn backwards) 4. Rook + Ferz 5. Moves like Dabbaba, captures like Ferz 6. Moves like Rook, captures like Ferz (swaps positions with Rank 3 instead of castling) 7. Hand Force Alibaba (Alibaba, but cannot land on opponent piece on capture, and instead pushes the opponent piece off the board after movement) 8. Camel 9. Super Dabbaba (Dabbaba, but it moves 3 spaces instead of 2) 10. Dabbaba + Ferz (but can not capture, frost follows) 11. Bouncy Bishop (Bishop, but it bounces) 12. Wazir + Alfil 13. Queen (but can not capture and cannot be captured, replaces queen) 14. Alibaba (royal, replaces king, moves like queen if the queen is taken) 15. Alibaba (white on h4, black on a5, can be controlled by opponent if threatened)
Thank you! Finally someone recognizes that they are historic pieces, some such as Dabbaba from 840 a.d. Chaturanga. Pieces with hundreds or thousands of years of history. It's painful to see all these ignorant comments with people calling them new pieces or variants. Modern chess is the variant, Chaturanga and Shogi are the originals. Of course the makers of this game do nothing to help because they have stolen the ideas and repackaged them as their own with no credit given to historic games.
One question that is not answered directly in the rules is this: can a Jester give check? My assumption is that it cannot because it can't capture a piece. However if it can then it is a truly broken piece. Regents also seem to be super OP also as they are basically a queen would have been interesting if they put somekind of limitation on it like "has to move like a normal king if it is checked" but seeing as that isn't the case it is amazing especially if your goal is to win on stalemate as its worth so much
The peasant is a god. The main weakness of the pawn is that if you just go in front of it, it cant move, but peasants need to have two spaces to their diagonal blocked, and no piece in front of them.
funnily enough there is an actual game similar in design to Faerie Chess, it's called Chess Evolved Online, it's on Steam and it's like this but more fleshed out and has a lot of pieces to use in your strategy
this seems awesome, though the mercenary part seems slightly confusing, as... 1) only the enemy can capture, so does imaginary self-capture count for your control of it? 2) what if BOTH players threaten to capture the mercenary, do you toss a coin? is there a priority system for that?
1) It does, by definition. 2) It's your turn - you move. There's no possible contradiction/confusion here. Chess is a turn-based game, after all. And the only rule is: "Mercenary can only be moved and controlled by a player who threatens to capture it" i.e. "Do you threaten Mercenary piece? If you do, you can move it." So the only confusing part about Mercenary is its "color", since it doesn't affect gameplay in any way besides the setup (also it's proper to mention that by rules' definition you can't control Mercenary from the get-go even if you've "bought" it during the setup).
Original Chess: Pawn (Rank I, Cost: 1) - Moves 1 space forward and/or captures diagonally forward. Knight (Rank II, Cost: 4) - Moves in an L (vertically/horizontally then at a right angle) It can even jump other pieces. Bishop (Rank II, Cost: 6) - Moves any spaces diagonally. Rook (Rank II, Cost: 9) - Moves any spaces orthogonally. Queen (Rank III, Cost: 12) - Moves any spaces in any direction. King (Rank III, Cost: None) - Moves 1 space in any direction, but can never move to a threatened space. Faerie Chess: Peasant (Rank I, Cost: 2) - Acts as a pawn, but moves 1 space diagonally forward and/or captures in front. Soldier (Rank I, Cost 3) - Acts as a pawn, but can move and capture in any direction, including backwards. Catapult (Rank II, Cost 3) - Jumps 3 spaces orthogonally. Thief (Rank II, Cost 5) - Jumps 2 spaces in any direction, and captures before the opposing piece. Lancer (Rank II, Cost 5) - Acts as a knight, but jumps 3 spaces. Herald (Rank II, Cost, 6) - Moves 2 spaces orthogonally. This is the piece that can never capture. It prevents all pieces from moving, including creating a stalmate. It can begin outside. Chamberlain (Rank II, Cost: 6) Jumps 2 spaces orthogonally and/or captures 1 space diagonally. It may even swap with rank III pieces. Courtesan (Rank II, Cost 6) - Moves 1 space orthogonally or jumps 2 spaces. Inquisitor (Rank II, Cost: 8) - Same as Herald, but moves 2 spaces orthogonally or 1 space diagonally, and friendly pieces move. Pontiff (Rank II, Cost 8) - Acts as a bishop, but may bounce in a right angle, but may not end in the same square. Tower (Rank II, Cost: 10) - Acts as a rook, but can move 1 space diagonally. Jester (Rank III, Cost: 12) - Acts as a queen, but was pacifist. Regent (Rank III Cost: 15) - Acts as a king, but moves 2 spaces in any direction. It can even move as a queen if the queen was captured. Mercenary (Special, Cost: None) Starting in h4/a5, it jumps 2 spaces in any direction. Any your piece threatens the opposing mercenary controls and moves.
I love how he says the rules are the same as Chess, except for these changes, then proceeds to talk about an almost entirely different game, that is nothing like Chess.
The herald displaces the pawn and sits in a rank one spot (on the edge of the board). Can that pawn that is displaced tot he back row also be upgraded to another piece?
I love this, the potential of building broken combos like a deckbuilder but WITH CHESS
Building broken combos?
That's a term I'd expect from the fighting game community not the chess community.
you may like chess evolved online then.
@@mill2712 have you heard about an primordial game called Yu GI Oh?
There's a flash game called Chess evolved which builds exactly on this idea dunno if its still running but when i played, it was fun... but tough to learn all the pieces and their movements as there're a lot
@@WaageAarau good thing the game shows what the new move has changed with lines for protection or attacks
My brain melted about the time he got to Herald.
Basically a must have piece
You're so right, I lost it right then.
Herald… a deadly card in duels
too bad, when a fae challenged you to chess, you will need it
Really? It lasted that long?
the jester seems like an interesting concept... like a wild blocker who'll just get in front of offending pieces and be annoying, useful to bait the opponent into using their freezer unit to hold that in place...
and the one that bounces off the walls seems amazing, and sorta forces people to enforce their sidelines, and especially interesting with the mercenary, as it'd be rather easy to forget that it could bounce off half the board, so "nothing's anywhere close enough nor has a direct line of sight" doesn't even apply
Like a duck but, it moves like a queen and can't jump over other pieces.
Kinda like a jester
I feel like the best way to counter the Jester is to jump over it,
No jester is horrible, you just wasting moves threatening nothing.
@@Nemchickthat's the beauty of it ;)
it threatens you with time waste, not losing
Thief seems OP. Being able to capture without moving into that place makes things a lot more complicated for the other player, at the low cost of five points.
It's very specific though in that you need the opponent's piece to be *exactly* three tiles away.
Yeah, if a piece is attacked by a thief, to defend you have to separately defend the thief's eventual square for that attack, even if the piece was already defended normally. That might not even be possible and if it is then they can simply not capture, and instead exploit whatever weakness was created by the defending move.
Thief doesn't seem that bad, but I feel like Mercenary would be one of those pieces no one really wants to use? Who wants to put a piece on their team that can only be controlled by the enemy.
I think the regent is op because if your queen is captured then you pretty much become un checkmatable
@@rosebrigade I think the mercenary can be controlled by the team that has the merc in check, independent of color.
I always wondered why there were never any variations on chess. Or radical ideas. Yet now I understand. Changing chess is like reinventing the wheel. This seems to make it crazy complicated. It's almost an entirely new game.
Prime example of why different isn't better. A lot of the new pieces just mess with the flow of chess too much and deviate it away from the strategic nature of the game. Too many possible moves with the different pieces means that you can't really master the game like you can with chess.
Wdym by "there were never any variations on chess"?
@@hy7864 I meant in the form of exposure. I guess my phrasing is off in a sense. But I never saw any or heard from anyone about any variations.
There have been attempts at creating variations on chess. They all run into similar problems. New pieces tend to be rather gimmicky in their rules and either add too much complexity or break the balance of the existing pieces.
Extending the board in any given dimension and adding filler pieces doesn't really change the game enough to justify it becoming a new standard.
Doing both tends to shake up the game so much that taking over "market share" is difficult and forming a new standard isn't likely to occur for generations to come.
Shogi shows that there is the potential for a new variant of chess to arise some time in the future - but it is not likely the people who create that version will see or realize it as the future of chess. It will just be that some many decades or centuries in the future, people will play more of that than the classic version of chess we play, today.
@@Aim54Delta but aren't they trying to reinvent the wheel? Metaphorically speaking.
Most of these pieces look useless due to their two space moves, but I like the idea of the mercenary. The game Lionheart, a sort of way out there chess type game, also has a mercenary that functions similarly: he can be bribed by the enemy king to switch sides. You should do Lionheart sometime!
They are actually very useless expcet for few i think
The fact that they may not be great prices is counteracted by there lower cost to pieces that are better what I'm most curious about is how much the base game pieces cost
@@pandabunny8521 You can see them at 1:20. Knight looks insanely undercosted. Prob best strat is to run nothing but Soldiers and Knights, maybe a couple Rooks.
@@sdsprd Towers over rooks, for certain. Any piece that can attack any adjacent square is inherently nuts. Imagine a board where any piece can deliver a mate that's normally only available to queens.
@@SenisPucker Forgot about them, just depends if you can fit the cost in.
I like this variant with one change, the stalemate rule. It encourages the one who is ahead to stalemate, while it should be the opposite.
I would keep the traditional stalemate rules unchanged or say the one with the *lowest* wins if Stalemate happens.
I like your suggestion, it would provide a comeback mechanic for the losing player and it would also keep the player who is ahead from getting too cocky or overconfident because now they have to always keep stalemate in mind.
with both the herald and the inquisitor being able to cause instant stalemates i think causing stalemates is supposed to be an actual strategy that the other player has to account for
and try to capture enough of their pieces so they cant stalemate without losing
Stalemate means both players lose. You should avoid stalemate, even if you are about to lose.
8bitAlex no, it doesn’t. Stalemate is a draw, neither side wins, or loses. If you are about to lose, you should play for a stalemate. There are situations where you can force your opponent to stalemate you, and these situations are well known by grand masters. In tournament play, two players will often go for a draw instead of trying to win, because it is to their mutual advantage. This is scored the exact same as a stalemate, which is a form of draw. I don’t know where you got the idea that you should never play for a stalemate.
@@mickeyrube6623 but since the chess variant in the video has rules for who wins in a stalemate and has 2 pieces that can force stalemates...
I wonder if there could exist a sort of freeze build that’s all about not letting your opponent move their pieces with all the freezers, getting a material advantage and stalemating by sending a freezer onto the enemy king
Puts a Herald next to the Herald
Well the king can't move meaning its dead
Freezers have a zero stalemate cost, so your opponent would probably win
@@milkman4407 now the universe explodes
@@milkman4407 Me and my friend did that with our inquisitors, but I had the big brain move of moving my king to his inquisitor (since it couldn't move) and forced a stalemate, I had more stalemate value so I won.
Peasant 2:12
Soldier 2:30
Herald 2:37
Tower 3:06
Chamberlain 3:19
Thief 3:40
Lancer 3:56
Catapult 4:11
Inquisitor 4:19
Pontiff 4:43
Courtesan 5:00
Jester 5:11
Regent 5:24
Mercenary 5:55
Thank u
Chad moment
thank you for timestamps :)
2:30 "MAGGOTS"
Why no jester be captured?
"The mercenary can only move if its being threatened"
Moves to a spot where its being threatened
I had to listen to his explanation like four times to get it. The player controls the mercenary of the opposite color, but only when it is threatened; this is why the white mercenary captures white's pawn. So moving the mercenary to another threatened space is a good move.
I like this variant. I also like the mercenary concept. Awesome vid, TSG.
What if you move the herald or the inquisitor next to the opponent’s king but they still have other pieces they can move? What if it’s a discovered check? Is it still a stalemate?
Yea still stalemate.
The issue with that is if you have more points, you win by doing that, so it’s effectively an instant kill on the king.
@@caltheuntitled8021 Neither the herald or the inquisitor have stalemate value, so including them in for that strategy alone would put on the back foot and forcing you into gaining the stalemate advantage begore you can proceed, and all the two spaces jumping pieces should be able to take it out no problem, since they can capture it from futher out of it's range.
This means that for a stalemate strategy, you would need to play enough moves to gain the lead, while playing with a literal blockeade on the side of your board you can't get rid off for the whole game, and that your opponent is still able to attack in order to ruin your play. You migth choose the inquisitor for a piece you can more easily keep on your side of the board until ready, but at a higher demand, since the inquisitor adds to the point lead you need.
Also both pieces have a limited move range and can't capture, meaning you can block them at no risk from them
*"What if you move the herald or the inquisitor next to the opponent’s king but they still have other pieces they can move?"*
The king is frozen and so can't order any of the other pieces to move. The game is a stalemate.
@@williambarnes5023 that’s the only decent explanation I’ve heard for it.
A few of the new pieces I recognised from other chess variant games: the peasant moves like a Berolina pawn, the soldier moves like a king but is not as important, and the tower moves like the dragon king from shogi.
Herald and inquisitor look fun,
soldier and peasant are also good changes to the pawn specially because of the whole cost system.
I really like jester as a counter to queen trades, but problem being picking jester means you start with a disadvantage compared to the opponents queen, jester mirror matches seem to be a nightmare.
Mercenary is an amazing idea to prevent offensive setups.
two square movement on rank 2 sucks tho
I mean it trades one advantage for another. Being unable to be captured means you can throw it in the middle of otherwise dangerous positions to create some novel counterplay. I'd be hard-pressed to believe it's as strong as a queen but, perhaps appropriate to its name, I think what you could accomplish with it might be hard to predict for the opponent.
soldier is OP for a 1st rank piece, it's stronger than knights and even bishops
@@HatterTobias and it costs only 3 points while knights cost 4 points and bishops costs 6 points
Great vid, but why cant the catapult throw pieces????
No idea lol
You can throw it at your opponent instead
@@ioratv checkmate if you get it in the eye
DABOODABOODA!!!
That would be SO op imagine yeeting a pawn into the regent’s/queen’s face at the start of the game
In summary:
Chess but you have to build an army. And that means more complex
basically Warhammer40k
Even has inquisitors
@@wafflestcattash4818 Even works underwater
was waiting for an example of a checkmate at the end
I suppose that falls under "normal chess rules apply". If your king (or king replacement) is in check and unable to avoid capture next turn, you lose.
@@petemagnuson7357 I think he wants to see a checkmate in the video when he says the win condition.
@@petemagnuson7357 That's not the point. Every chess variation video ends with «the first player to checkmate their opponent - wins» and an example of that. Not because it differs from the original rules but because it's the way to end chess videos.
@@mehrheitler ah, I see. It's been a little while since I watched one of these.
@@mehrheitler more specifically the checkmate example (by triple s) will involve the alternate rules that was put in place
There was a webtoon I read where the MC and his friend play a custom chess ruleset the author dubbed The Northseas Rules (A Region in the story). The Board was extended to be 13 spaces wide (so the field was still 4 spaces apart), both sides recieve 2 extra Knight, Bishop, and 1 Queen, The Queens were replaced with 2 Warships (though i imagine its just for looks as the warship still acts as queen. Edit 2: i think rather than warship its a Trade Ship and they can move like queens but get the Supply Route rule), and they had this Supply Route rule: If there is a gap of anysize between two of the same sides pawn (ex. White-pawn, space, space, space, White-pawn) and another piece of the same side lands in between (ex. W.P,, space, Knight, space, W.P) , that piece can move again. other than that normal rules still applied.
i always wondered how it would actually be played IRL.
as you said, two queens and that booster rule
@@NareshSinghOctagon most likely he does, good Sire, since I too, remember it this way.
This is probably my favorite game you have shown yet. I am absolutely buying this!
Best channel ever
i really enjoyed hearing about the rules for this game! i absolutely love deck-building games and turning chess into one is very creative, especially with all the new pieces' movements and rules. it opens up a ton of new strategies and tactics; for example, many people were talking about potential stalemating strategies (provided you're good enough to get ahead in stalemate points) and people were talking about the potential endgames with the Regent (sacrificing some of your points to upgrade the king rather than get stronger military)
This isn’t really a deck-builder, though.
Inquisitor and herald are so cool! Disabling pieces is sick!
I feel like this should be called “feudal chess”, because this is more about the costs to buy different kinds of pieces.
“Faerie chess” should be a lot more magical, like having pieces with secret roles, and choosing your move on paper secretly, then flipping over the paper to show your move at the same time.
Other things to make it more magical would be to have things like rooks be chosen where they should be placed on the back two ranks, and then not be able to be moved or removed for the duration of the game (and also prohibit any piece from jumping over it), and have the ability to kill an opponent piece adjacent to it (without moving) as long as an ally piece is also adjacent to it (i.e. the rook actually works like a real castle fortification, as opposed to just looking like one).
In saying that, this is the type of chess I see Faeries playing
Or general fae. High elves totally would
Can also see a fae interaction where if the person beats them in a game of cheese they get to live...but its this chess (I have a new dnd idea now 😅)
I believe it is called "Faerie chess" because of the existing term "Fairy chess". "Fairy chess" refers to a type of game that is a modified version of chess. Basically, all chess variants are a type of Fairy chess and since this is a "build your own chess" game, "Faerie chess" seems to be a fitting name.
IMO, simultaneous turns or secret information opens a sufficiently big can of worms in terms of necessary rule changes that it should just be a different game and not considered a chess variant.
To be a chess variant, I would say things should be as follows:
1. Players take turns making moves. Some special moves may involve multiple pieces (like castling) but there is only and exactly one move per turn.
2. Captures are not generally forced.
3. The game state can be sufficiently describe using the position, not orientation, of all pieces, who's turn it is, whether special move rights are still present, and the last move played (needed for en passant).
4. The game is played on a board with four-sided tiles arranged so each tile has tiles which are adjacent and/or diagonal to it.
5. Chess and variants are perfect information deterministic games once the first move is played. That is, there is zero ambiguity about what will occur when a move is executed.
6. Only one piece may occupy a tile at a given time.
7. There are no other kinds of moves besides placing, moving, or capturing with a piece.
Peasant == Berolina Pawn.
Soldier == Sage in Courier Chess.
Tower == Promoted Rook in Shogi.
Lancer == Camel.
Catapult == Threeleaper.
Pontiff == Bishop in Billiards chess.
Courtesan == Phoenix.
I can’t believe Gary Chess finally released the DLC pieces we’ve been waiting for. I can’t wait for Chess 2, I’ve heard they’re finally making the jump to 3D. I hope they include the DLC for free though and add new pieces instead of making us pay for old content.
As someone who knows literally nothing about Chess strategy, I would love to play this
The long awaited chess update.
_noice._
Finally! I have been waiting 400 years for this update
yo, new Chess just dropped.
Next update will be having 1 elixir every round and building decks
New pieces are fine by me (makes me question about how certain things work, but I’ll assume it’s something I’d get used to over time), but the whole “adding up points” isn’t my style. I’d prefer starting with a traditional set, then trading out pieces based on cost AFTER the game has started with some rules added to facilitate that.
I absolutely love the amount of pieces and their abilities
Peasant: Inverse pawn
Soldier: Discount king
Herald: Blocker
Tower: EA queen (you have to pay to unlock the full diagonal movement ability)
Chamberlain: Multi-directional pawn
Thief: Long-range pawn
Lancer: Upgraded knight
Catapult: Discount rook
Inquisitor: Enemy-only blocker
Pontiff: Bouncy bishop
Courtesan: Wannabe checkers piece
Jester: Single-direction blocker
Regent: Upgraded king
Mercenary: Doesn’t know who it’s fighting for
Actually peasant moves opposite move from pawn and tower moves like promoted rook in Japanese chess and courtesan moves like chaturanga elephant and king
Regent really isn't an upgrade to the King. Being forced to move two spaces makes it significantly easier to checkmate a Regent via enemy positioning and friendly unit movement blocking. It also means that half the board is unable to be attacked by a Regent, similar to how Bishops normally work where they're confined to their starting square's color.
Then add the fact that it costs 15 points to play versus the 0 for a normal King and there's absolutely no reason to pick it.
Peasant: A powerful pawn
Soldier: a non-valuable king
Herald: A Rook with limited movement
Tower: A rook that can move diagonally
Chamberlain:A limited movement rook combined with a pawn
Theif:A Mini Queen that captures without landing on the captured piece
Lancer:The Older brother of the knight
Catapult:A Mini Rook
Inquisitor:A non-royalty king that can move 2 spaces horizontal or vertical but can't capture and freezes opponents pieces
Pontiff:A bishop that can bounce on the board
Courtesan:A non-royalty king that can jump 2 spaces diagonally
Jester:A Queen that can't capture nor be captured
Regent:a King that moves 2 spaces in any direction but movement becomes queen-like when the queen is captured
Mercenary:A backstabbing piece
Well, a tower is a promoted rook in Japanese chess and courtesan moves like chaturanga elephant and king
Love this idea of deack building and the whole herald and inquisitor mechanics where the pieces around them cant be move like when in check
This kind of chest would definitely feel at home in any fantasy setting. Its chess with a fun new level of strategy id really like to play it
this is a good alternative to the classic game, it will be even cooler if combined with Musketeer chess.
Chess update 58.0
I've always wanted to expand faerie chess to encompass every single other modified chess piece in creation. Every other secondary set of chess rules where pieces move differently, I want them in there. Every other unique piece, I want them in there. Knightmares, I want them in there. Knights that can be mounted, I want them in there. You get the idea.
I want to take it further. Spend some of your points to enforce optional rules. Spend some of your points to force unusual board shapes.
Then take it even further. Game are in year long "seasons" where each match you play increases the total number of points you can put into a match, you can only match if two players are within 10% and you play at the lower value. Yearly champions exist for highest point reached, highest ranking and total highest score of pieces between all games.
So weird! Especially the mercenary.
Props to whoever thought up all these additional pieces. Pretty cool.
Fun fact: several of the pieces mentioned are merely renamed versions of several well-known fairy chess pieces.
Peasant - Berolina Pawn
Soldier - Mann
Herald - Dababbah (+extra rules)
Tower - Crowned Rook
Thief / Regent - Alibaba
Lancer - Camel
Catapult - Threeleaper
Inquisitor - Kirin (+extra rules)
Courtesan - Phoenix
Suggestion=bowman:moves 1 square diagonally only,but kills hostile pieces in a 3-5 block radius and only does that straight, it does not move to that square of the piece bcuz obviously they use bows and arrow
I like the idea of a chess variant where you pick and choose your pieces and their positions. I don’t like the incredible variety and power of pieces Faerie Chess adds. I understand that it’s to tie into the point system and make army composition a more strategic matter, but some of these pieces are just too powerful. And there is plenty of strategic value in just the placement of your pieces already. I’ll try a few games of Faerie Chess, but I’ll probably end up designing a version with less (powerful) pieces
Yeah, I feel like this could benefit from a MTG-like color system to prevent weird stuff like that.
peasant: basically barolina pawn
soldier: king without check or checkmate
Harold: free stalemate
tower: better rook
chamberlain: pawn but advanced(without promotion)
thief: OP
catapult: camel
inquisitor: H A R O L D
pontiff: bishop but pong ball
courtesan: ok piece
jester: BAD QUEEN
regent: king with extra rizz
Mercenary: MEH piece
Actually this is real reason:
1. Tower moves like promoted rook in Japanese chess
2. Courtesan moves like chaturanga elephant and king
3. Peasant moves opposite move of pawn
It's interesting that the solider can't promote. The herald and inquisitor are very interesting since they exist to get stalemates and invite different play patterns with their freeze and half freeze effects. The Reagent sounds busted if the queen is killed, I feel like he could solo late game so it makes sense that he costs the most. The mercenary is something else :P
A very cool version I definitely want to try this some day!
It’s only 30ish dollars on Amazon!
@@lennoxtvthingy7408 thats 10,500 argentinian pesos, not so cheap.
Herald's rules are like WHAAAAT?!
ok, the mercenary is even weirder
One question, can the jester give check or checkmate?
It can assist in the checkmate by bodyblocking the regent, but it, itself, can't do enough to check or checkmate, just herd the regent around.
Jester can troll the king by getting in the way.
@@himanshuwilhelm5534 basically what a real jester does, troll people
I feel like the jester is pretty trash excepting endgames against a normal pawn. like if you play jester you're throwing away value because you could literally just have a queen
@@thebee0320 To a degree, yes, but the fact that it isn't capturable (meaning that opponent pieces have to take two moves minimum to go around it) mean that it's a fairly important piece when it comes to taking out strong pieces or forcing your opponent into what you want.
Altogether, I'd argue it's as valuable as the queen, even without being allowed to capture.
The real appeal to this is that it removes a lot of the advantages that a more experienced chess player would have against a new player, since a lot of the early game in chess is just memorizing openings. This makes it so that both players have to come up with an early game on the fly instead of using book moves, at least giving non-chess-players at your board game night a fighting chance against people who might frequently play chess.
En passant ?
En peasant
Could work as normal for double pawn moves. You just see where it would have landed after one jump and capture there.
I think Faerie Chess looks pretty cool! I would love to try it but unfortunately it’s out of stock. Do you have any information on when it will be back?
This video is awesome. And I am blown away by all the cool new chess pieces.
However I have a suggestion for a new piece. Put this one in the royal category.
The Princess. Can move 4 spaces either vertically, horizontally, or diagonally. Can capture pieces. And IF it reaches the other side of the board it can be promoted to Queen.
I’d love to see you cover the card game Mao, or rather some rules you’d make for it.
kinda reminds me of chess 2 ;)
too bad the developers still haven't given us news of chess 2 yet 😔
The dev's of chess have been long dead.
@@danielyuan9862 first of o'll, it's spelled "devs" not "dev's", "dev's" is a compound of [dev+is] not plural.
second of course the original devs are dead, it's a long running game
@@danielyuan9862 third, I'm talking about the current devs 😏
Why would they bother developing chess 2 if they can just keep milking DLCs for chess 1?
Pessant: opposite moves of pawn
Soldier: king but less important
Herald: cant capture but dont let other pieces move
Tower: roock but whit one more move
Chamberlain: better castles but only for ranks 3
Thief: dont capture, kidnaps
Lancer: horses bigger brother
Inquisitor: better herald
Pontiff: boncy boy
Cortasan: \_('_')_/don't know
Jester: annoying space filler queen
Regent: king but two times more move and becomes queen when queen dies but still can't be capture or move to be captured or you loses
Mercenary: treteners piece
Actually, this is the real reason:
1. Spelling mistakes
2. Courtesan moves like chaturanga elephant and king
3. Tower technically moves like promoted rook in Japanese chess
4. Pontiff moves like bishop but bounces on the board but may not end on the space he started on
“Hey can i copy your homework?”
“Sure just don’t make sure it’s obvious”
The teacher: “PEASANT AND PAWN!”
Chess, but the pieces discovered subclasses
This game customization reminds me of a game called Chess Evolved Online. Its quite unknown but its chess and you can put different pieces with different movesets. It has slightly different rules to accomodate for the change and its awesome. Its just a bit unfortunate that the game is quite unknown and rarely gets updated.
All the pieces be playing chess but the pontiff be playing carrom. 💀
"The game ends and you lose when your Regent is captured."
Except that it can never be captured. You'd lose to a checkmate before that can happen.
isnt regent just... a better king?
it costs more. Choosing regent means your army is weaker than a person who stuck with king.
when it comes to catapult, i have a custom rule that it can catapult adjacent pieces (opponent or not) 3 to 5 squares in the direction away from the catapult, capturing other pieces the 'projectile' lands on
if the projectile piece is to the left of the catapult, it shoots 3 to 5 to the left, if it lands on another piece it gets captured, if the projectile goes off the board it is captured
(note: this also means you capture pieces of your own colour, whether its by catapulting them off the board, or catapulting other pieces onto them)
you may move 2 spaces in any direction (including mixed) but can not take pieces without catapulting, and can not catapult royal pieces
imagine this mixed with musketeer chess
King: WHo are you?
Regent: I'm You, but better in every way
Can the peasant en pawn?
No
Thx for the explanation but tf is this game it's very confusing to me and I still don't know how to play, will watch again
Most of those pieces are good if you want to annoy your opponent, and I guess could be a breath of fresh air for veteran players who got bored of the classic game
Tower is a direct upgrade of Rook, Pontiff is a direct upgrade of Bishop, Knight has no direct upgrade, Soldier is a direct of upgrade of Pawn.
Regent is situational, Jester is also situational.
The rest of the pieces are either just suck due to their two spaces move or weird gimmick. Especially the two pieces that allow you to just initiate a stalemate in case you are losing or the enimies can also stalemate themselves which is bad, any pieces that encourage stalemate should be remove.
@Tn02bv Actually due to it longer L shape movements, it can be hard to capture pieces that just 1 square apart. This is one of the pieces that kind of move too far for it to be of any uses and I consider it to be worse than just the regular knight.
Well actually, Tower is promoted rook in Japanese chess
It reminds me of the duke. Also except with the rank one pieces the pawn like ones, I would just have said orthogonally for all other pieces that move both vertically and horizontally. Personally I would have like after talking about all the pieces gameplay with lots of new pieces to showcase while talking over it to explain just what happened. Some of these pieces I am all for. Some I don't know that I love. Some seemed way to repetitive to the point of unnecessary to making me want to repick or redesign what is allowed. But I will say it interested me from the get go.
Jester: anti-fake anti-queenn
Mercenary: IMPOSTOR
Mercenary: "I'll work for you, just don't kill me"
More different unit pieces is a great idea that adds replayabilty to chess in my opinion. :D
I feel like the pawn replacements are obnoxious lmao. Like imagine playing an endgame where your opponents pawns are literally just kings but you can sac them. Imagine trying to stop a peasant from promoting. Imagine a middlegame where your opponent just squeezes you with a line full of kings
Yeah, there's likely some balance issues to buff out but these options are open to both players and hopefully the points shook out to where taking a full line of soldiers means you can't bring some of the other strong pieces just for cost. They didn't go over base piece costs but a full line of peasants would be 16 points and full soldiers 24. If you're only playing 50-something then that's half the force in super pawns that CAN get nullified by a couple heralds or inquisitors.
They cost different
No one expects the Spanish Inquisition!!!
Crap, I wasn't expecting Spanish inquisition today
2:12 Can I play en passant with peasant?
No its called en peasant you peasant
No. The Pawn card is the only piece card that mentions En Passant, and pawns can only En Passant other pawns
the jester sounds fun af
The piece I would want to add would be: The Tailor. What it does is have 2 needles it can place on the board, like a trap. Upon running into these needles, a piece gets stuck for 2 moves, and the needle goes back to the tailor. If a piece hits a needle a second time, it dies.
I can see a strong case for stalemate strats, like obviously you're taking jester for 12 garunteed points, then build an army out of "game ends in stalemate if this bitch is near a king" pieces and try to end it fast
Peasant: poor boi :(
Soldier: MAGGOTS!
Herald: "Stay down."
Tower: demoknight
Chamberlain: jumpy boi
Thief: *casually steals the pawn's souls*
Lancer: *t a l l k n i g h t*
Catapult: a literal catapult
Inquisitor: a friendlier version of the Herald
Pontiff: a bouncy BALLER
Courtesan: a jumpy king
Jester: comedian
Actually this is real reason:
1.Peasant moves opposite move of pawn
2. Tower moves like promoted rook in Japanese chess
3. Courtesan moves like chaturanga elephant and king
4. Need regent and mercenary.
Clearly some ideas were taken from a Japanese game called Shogi. It's basically a better version of Chess, even though Japan may not even had known about Chess existing at the time.
Fun fact: Both Chess and Shogi were derived from the same Indian game, don't remember the name of it though.
*Peasant* - Is actually worse than a pawn, AI values them at around 0.7 pawns. 2 pawns is a severe overvaluation.
*Soldier* - Balanced and Correctly valued.
*Herald* - Very overvalued, and can permanently lock in your own pieces if your opponent puts a bishop in front of it. It’s movement is also extremely restrictive, as it can only access a quarter of the board. and I’d say 2 points is more accurate.
*Tower* - Undervalued. Almost as powerful as a Rook and Bishop combined from my couple primitive AI tests, but I can see why.
*Chamberlain* - Haven’t really dug into this one yet, but it’s movement appears very restrictive. Ability may have some niche scenarios in which its good.
*Thief* - A bishop for a piece that can access half its squares seems like a ripoff. It’s ability almost makes up for it though, even though it can only control 9 squares at a time and only 32 squares ever.
*Lancer* - Much testing shows this piece is worth less than a Knight, due to it being colorbound and it having too big movements for an 8x8 board.
*Catapult* - Worth hardly more than a pawn, because it can access a pitiful 9 squares on the entire board.
*Inquisitor* - An instant win if you’re material up if it can get close to the enemy king. The stalemate rule is really unbalanced with this piece. Keep in mind pawns cannot capture it under any circumstance and it can be difficult to get rid of it.
*Pontiff* - Love this piece, very original and cool ability. 8 is a fairly low valuation though, it should be around 12 id say.
*Courtesan* - Very overvalued, probably worth less than a knight for its bad leaping ability and the ease to approach or attack it.
*Jester* - 12 points is a very high valuation if you aren’t extremely skilled with the Jester. It could probably be worth this many points to a “Faery Chess Grandmaster”.
*Regent* - Very overpowered. Instantly wins the game if you force a queen trade. Useless otherways. Useless with a Jester too, since it can’t be captured.
*Mercenary* - Cool idea, but again is severely limited by its 2 space jumping movement which this game seems to like. 2 space jumping makes you only able to access a quarter of the board (3 spaces makes this an eighth).
Technically, tower moves like promoted rook in Japanese chess and courtesan moves like chaturanga elephant and king
The herald sounds like a fascinating piece. Instead of completely removing pieces, the player can instead simply disable pieces in a certain area, including their own.
… I’ll admit, though, I don’t really know much about chess. I just clicked the video because it has faerie in the title, eheh.
Here’s the most interesting pieces IMO:
The Jester is basically an INVINCIBLE QUEEN, in that it cannot be captured, nor can it make any captures itself.
The Regent is a more powerful version of the King, which can move TWO spaces at once rather than one, and otherwise follows the same rules as the regular King. However, that ends when the Queen is captured (if you’re using the queen), as when this happens, the Regent gains the Queen’s powers, and is then able to move freely around the board along any straight or diagonal line. However, unlike the King, the Regent can be captured like any other piece, meaning that it is very vulnerable.
This means that you can either have a regular King and a piece who cannot die and who’s only goal is to annoy the other player, or a Regent and a regular Queen that, when killed, sends the Regent into GOD MODE, allowing it to literally move ANYWHERE. Just remember that the Regent is EXTREMELY vulnerable to attack…and that it’s VERY easy to lose in a matter of seconds if you aren’t careful. Honestly, now that I think about it, the Jester may be the better option.
The other two interesting pieces are the Herald and the Inquisitor. The Herald is a peacekeeper of sorts, preventing ANY pieces in its immediate vicinity from moving at all. The Inquisitor is a one-sided version of the Herald that gives you a HUGE strategic advantage: any of your opponents pieces within its immediate vicinity cannot move, but YOUR pieces still can! This allows you to sort of “lock” your opponent in place, allowing you to make moves against them without them fighting back-something that’s impossible in normal chess.
Oh, and I almost forgot the Pontiff! This piece can do something that no other chess piece ever made can: IT CAN BOUNCE OFF OF THE FREAKING WALLS!!!!! This allows it to slide right past enemy defenses and can therefore pose a SERIOUS threat to your opponent!
"The lancer"
The entire deltarune comunity: LANCER WAS A CHESS PEICE??
I would like to see some example games of this played, because it's hard to follow.
Dude I know that everyone is gonna replace king with the regent and pawn with soldier and rook with tower, right?
U know they're cost higher right?
If you literally just replace all the pieces you said would cost: 56, too low.
Counting the other units you didn´t want to replace: 88, too high.
I guess that´s the balancing of the game.
What the heck does the herald do if it cant capture?
It could be used to pin/paralyze enemy pieces
It freezes the pieces around it and freezes the king leading to stalemate
It's basically an AoE control.
@@Bh4ratHN I wonder if you'd be allowed to move your king next to the enemy herald to stalemate yourself?
@@EdKolis I think it might be an illegal move, but that also may be possible
1. Berolina
2. King (not royal)
3. Dabbaba (but can not capture, frost follows, pushes pawn backwards)
4. Rook + Ferz
5. Moves like Dabbaba, captures like Ferz
6. Moves like Rook, captures like Ferz (swaps positions with Rank 3 instead of castling)
7. Hand Force Alibaba (Alibaba, but cannot land on opponent piece on capture, and instead pushes the opponent piece off the board after movement)
8. Camel
9. Super Dabbaba (Dabbaba, but it moves 3 spaces instead of 2)
10. Dabbaba + Ferz (but can not capture, frost follows)
11. Bouncy Bishop (Bishop, but it bounces)
12. Wazir + Alfil
13. Queen (but can not capture and cannot be captured, replaces queen)
14. Alibaba (royal, replaces king, moves like queen if the queen is taken)
15. Alibaba (white on h4, black on a5, can be controlled by opponent if threatened)
Thank you! Finally someone recognizes that they are historic pieces, some such as Dabbaba from 840 a.d. Chaturanga. Pieces with hundreds or thousands of years of history. It's painful to see all these ignorant comments with people calling them new pieces or variants. Modern chess is the variant, Chaturanga and Shogi are the originals. Of course the makers of this game do nothing to help because they have stolen the ideas and repackaged them as their own with no credit given to historic games.
For tower, it also moves like promoted rook in Japanese chess
One question that is not answered directly in the rules is this: can a Jester give check? My assumption is that it cannot because it can't capture a piece. However if it can then it is a truly broken piece. Regents also seem to be super OP also as they are basically a queen would have been interesting if they put somekind of limitation on it like "has to move like a normal king if it is checked" but seeing as that isn't the case it is amazing especially if your goal is to win on stalemate as its worth so much
If I put reagent but dont put queen, does that mean my reagent can move any space?
Would be overpowered
... I think it´s stated that the Regen gets it´s buff after the Queen is captured. I´m guessing it would be the same if you had a replacement
Why do you need pieces that can't capture?
Because the rule says so
The Peasents movement in the inverted pawn movement.
Nice
I agree
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The peasant is a god. The main weakness of the pawn is that if you just go in front of it, it cant move, but peasants need to have two spaces to their diagonal blocked, and no piece in front of them.
Chess deck building... I love this!
funnily enough there is an actual game similar in design to Faerie Chess, it's called Chess Evolved Online, it's on Steam and it's like this but more fleshed out and has a lot of pieces to use in your strategy
this seems awesome, though the mercenary part seems slightly confusing, as...
1) only the enemy can capture, so does imaginary self-capture count for your control of it?
2) what if BOTH players threaten to capture the mercenary, do you toss a coin? is there a priority system for that?
1) It does, by definition.
2) It's your turn - you move. There's no possible contradiction/confusion here. Chess is a turn-based game, after all. And the only rule is: "Mercenary can only be moved and controlled by a player who threatens to capture it" i.e. "Do you threaten Mercenary piece? If you do, you can move it."
So the only confusing part about Mercenary is its "color", since it doesn't affect gameplay in any way besides the setup (also it's proper to mention that by rules' definition you can't control Mercenary from the get-go even if you've "bought" it during the setup).
Chess 3:Mega Rules.
You want it for request?
Where can I get this
Link in the description
Original Chess:
Pawn (Rank I, Cost: 1) - Moves 1 space forward and/or captures diagonally forward.
Knight (Rank II, Cost: 4) - Moves in an L (vertically/horizontally then at a right angle) It can even jump other pieces.
Bishop (Rank II, Cost: 6) - Moves any spaces diagonally.
Rook (Rank II, Cost: 9) - Moves any spaces orthogonally.
Queen (Rank III, Cost: 12) - Moves any spaces in any direction.
King (Rank III, Cost: None) - Moves 1 space in any direction, but can never move to a threatened space.
Faerie Chess:
Peasant (Rank I, Cost: 2) - Acts as a pawn, but moves 1 space diagonally forward and/or captures in front.
Soldier (Rank I, Cost 3) - Acts as a pawn, but can move and capture in any direction, including backwards.
Catapult (Rank II, Cost 3) - Jumps 3 spaces orthogonally.
Thief (Rank II, Cost 5) - Jumps 2 spaces in any direction, and captures before the opposing piece.
Lancer (Rank II, Cost 5) - Acts as a knight, but jumps 3 spaces.
Herald (Rank II, Cost, 6) - Moves 2 spaces orthogonally. This is the piece that can never capture. It prevents all pieces from moving, including creating a stalmate. It can begin outside.
Chamberlain (Rank II, Cost: 6) Jumps 2 spaces orthogonally and/or captures 1 space diagonally. It may even swap with rank III pieces.
Courtesan (Rank II, Cost 6) - Moves 1 space orthogonally or jumps 2 spaces.
Inquisitor (Rank II, Cost: 8) - Same as Herald, but moves 2 spaces orthogonally or 1 space diagonally, and friendly pieces move.
Pontiff (Rank II, Cost 8) - Acts as a bishop, but may bounce in a right angle, but may not end in the same square.
Tower (Rank II, Cost: 10) - Acts as a rook, but can move 1 space diagonally.
Jester (Rank III, Cost: 12) - Acts as a queen, but was pacifist.
Regent (Rank III Cost: 15) - Acts as a king, but moves 2 spaces in any direction. It can even move as a queen if the queen was captured.
Mercenary (Special, Cost: None) Starting in h4/a5, it jumps 2 spaces in any direction. Any your piece threatens the opposing mercenary controls and moves.
The pontiff is crazy. You can just absolutely snipe pieces with the wall bounce
The chess update we've been waiting for
keep in mind the herald and inquisitor can only stalemate if the square adjacent to the king is not protected
Imagine searching online "most broken faerie chess builds" or "chess speedrun build"
I love how he says the rules are the same as Chess, except for these changes, then proceeds to talk about an almost entirely different game, that is nothing like Chess.
The herald displaces the pawn and sits in a rank one spot (on the edge of the board). Can that pawn that is displaced tot he back row also be upgraded to another piece?
Looks like Chess Evolved Online but more professional and 1000 times less wild and expansive. Interesting.