Hi , a little sajustion, a sm but heavy tarp would be a nice back up for your tent or yourself when or if u need it ,so u not get to cold & wet to get sick from it , but u have some wt so that will help , I don't y I'm suggesting it , ☕🍯🍶🏕
Was in me mates MLD cricket up on the brecons Saturday evening. Had a lot of rain in the morning,but nothing came in,so he said. I was in my £12.00 Lidl tent and as dry as a bone. All the best.
Glad you are both still chipper despite a disturbed sleep. Great scenery. You had your own personal ‘Lake District’ - outside and inside the tent! Enjoyable content as ever.
Ugh, what a nightmare! This, among other things, is why I just won't do flys that don't reach the ground, anymore; not just to block all the rain & splashback, but also because keeping the wind out = keeping the flapping down + also keeps me warmer. I could never be as rugged as you, Paul. Good on ya.
Looks like you made a poor pitch selection....and the Duomid needed to be pitched slightly tighter... you need big pegs.....9" Eastons ! Enjoyed the video. Cheers 👍
Not wanting to sound smug but this is why I only ever camp with a goretex bivvy bag, and a poncho or tarp. I have had too many bad experiences with leaky tents, or tents which weren't leaky but pitched inner first, so pitching in the rain meant you had a wet inner. With a poncho/tarp it doesn't matter if water somehow gets in, I'm guaranteed to be dry and warm in my bivvy bag.
I agree about the bivvy bag. Makes any sleeping bag a much nicer place and saves you when the tent fails you. I typically carry a bothy bag and a tarp/poncho too. Being wet and cold on the hill changes camping into a survival situation, and as a friend once said “if you’re in a survival situation, you’re doing it wrong”.
Great video but I’m just wondering why I get boil in the bag meatballs 🤢 and Stephen gets fillet 🥩???? And the only purpose of a tent is to keep you dry! Epic fail!!! It better be going back 😉
Paul, I have just found your channel and been watching your videos back to back for a week. I live down on london and watching your videos and the locations I know and miss so much has done wonders for my mental health!! This video is so brave of you to post and I hope it helped making it. For me contentment is all about contrasts in life, and I hope you have some balance since you posted it. I am full of respect for you and wish you the very best...
@@kennywoods8713 yes, these were cotton. Vango still make and sell the Force ten tent in two different sizes in cotton, you wouldn't want to backpack with one of these though, far too heavy. If you dry them properly before you put them away mould shouldn't be a problem. I help at my local scouts and they have canvas tents that are forty years old and still in usable condition.
Vango Force 10s! Remember those. I remember the first dome tents, the Phazordome, our scout group had 2 but the leaders used to sleep in them on hikes. Also remember those Blacks Good Companion tents? A bright orange pyramid tent which could sleep 3.
Have used mids from MLD for over 10 years including the duomid and always seam sealed them myself. Id put this shelter as one of the best on the market. Once you get the picth dialled and add a polycro or tyvek groundsheet you'll be laughing. I use a bivi and groundsheet under an MLD mid. With this config the duomid is overkill for 1p but perfect if you have a dog or partner with you. It's a 2p shelter so will catch the wind more than a 1p shelter like the hilleburge.
Wow. What a difference that opening makes. I know it sucks when the tent leaks but on the other hand it kept a fair bit of water to the outside. Could be worse,ey!
Paul, Ron needs to hear about this. They’ve gone for neat seam sealing instead of bombproof. Britain needs bombproof. Any leakage through the seams gets hurled about the tent when a gust strikes so I consider this a serious shortcoming. You might want to mention 146K subscribers but MLD usually give helpful replies and Ron has always replied himself to my few emails. It’s a good job fixing the problem isn’t difficult but, if you’ve paid for a service, it should be correctly. My own Duomid is DCF and I love it.
My Duomid is DCF, I wouldn't trust the nylon ones in the UK, too much wind on exposed hills, the DCF gets a much tighter pitch and doesn't sag when it gets wet.
Thank you for all the pain that you went through to bring us such a wonderful beautiful sights p thank you so very much may God bless you and keep you safe always peace my friend
This was actually (ironically) a pretty nice, calming video mate. You've got such a relaxed way of approaching things and that shines through here. A great excursion and video, nice one.
A night with not the best weather at all, but a night you will always talk about it, so these kind of moments actually become memories. Also good footage this time. Also your friend is a nice person and yeah we need more videos with him
I've used the silnylon trailstar in horrendous weather dry as a bone. Agree with you. Or simply remember where the drips were and add some sealant to it. Good to see a popular RUclipsr using MLD even quality products can slip occasionally. Paul will figure it all out he's still learning 😉 😆
Best way of testing....rain and plenty of it, I'm doing the same at weekend with Trekkertent Drift 1 going up to Glen Nevis at Penny Pass, see how we go, expecting rain. I carry a Bivvy Bag just in case.
Some harsh conditions haha. Great video 👍🏼 and Stephen’s is superb. Finally got out at the weekend for my Scarp 1’s maiden outing, and my first wild camp since being a kid (it’s been far too long!), thanks to you, as I decided to finally get back to it, after watching your videos. Tent was great, love it. Hope you get the issues sorted, look forward to the next vid. Cheers, Gary.
That chest rig looks like the Osprey Archeon. I used one on my recent Cumbria Way, doing the mountain route. Great piece of equipment and reasonably priced.
Was feeling somewhat smug in my tent hearing yours flapping all night 😂 Thanks again for showing me this amazing location, was a pleasure meeting you even if you did insult our national traybake. Better watch out as a fella with a special set of skills is from my hometown 😛😂😂 Will definitely have to get you over to the Mourne Mountains or the Causeway Coast sometime 🙂 Some additional comments from Louise: “I wouldn’t call that a tent, it’s more of a roof. There’s a dirty great hole in the middle. STOP SHOWING US THIS TERRIBLE RAIN! He’s got his bread on a fish chopping board! I’d want some sauce on that!”
Sorry about the leaking wig wam! You mentioned seam sealing it yourself. I found when seam sealing a Lanshan I used Gear Aid grip sil (Silnet). Mix about a third of the tube in a small container with a little white spirit to achieve a Consistency of runny honey. Using the small brush supplied with the sealant, and wipe off any ‘mistakes’ with a clean cloth with white spirit . You will end up with a lot neater job. Plus a a WWW. (Waterproof Wig Wam) ATB
Gawd, a tent has one job - to keep you dry. I’d bin that thing when you get home - you’ve got plenty of proper tents. Loved the video though, made me smile, thanks for sharing the bad as well as the good! 😁
Reminds me of a trip to Nantcol. The tent was fine and didn't leak, it is quite cosy hearing the rain when you know you are out of it and sheltered, but not for 48 hours, almost non stop! The water table was by then above ground level and there was no escape from the mini river, which just flowed its way from back to front and into the main river running through the site. Only option was pack up and go home and everything was soaked through.
That chest pack looks a handy piece of kit, unless you already have a chest of your own that you can’t see your feet over 🤣 Shame about the leaky tent Paul… that was an unforgiving ‘millimetre’ !😳
All the great tents you have and you took a sackcloth up there lol! You need to hire Stephen to film your adventures. Looked like the start of a movie!
That opening sequence was just beautiful, and some of the rain shots just felt like pure ASMR! Shame about the rain, but it just adds to the experience right?
I’ll never understand why people don’t use tent footprints. They keep you and the tent dry and make the vestibule so much more liveable. And they weigh less than a can of beer that everyone seems to think is essential camping gear.
@@StoutProper A tent footprint is a piece of waterproof material that goes under the floor of the inner tent and possibly some of the vestibule. Smaller dimension than the inner to keep water from the floor and protect the bottom from wear. Made of plastic, silicone treated fabric, dyneema, tyvek, cut down shower curtains, etc. Like many pieces of gear, has pros and cons and is not cure for bad site selection but can make it more tolerable. Usually.
Was tempted to make a smart arsed comment such as Prior Preparation Prevents P*** Poor Performance, always expect the unexpected, prepare for all eventualities, be prepared, etc etc etc. But I won't. I love rain in the Fells, make me feel alive. And thanks you for reminding me why one should never buy a tent that needs seam sealing!
Lesson learned Phil. I paid MLD to seam seal it in the factory. You would think they would have done a better job than me but they made a piss poor effort. I’ll Sean seal it myself this week.
@@PaulMessner Hi Paul I would really recommend you to use a poleconnector and two trekkingpoles. Just take two aluminium tubes and connect them with a piece of gardenhose. Then you avoid the irritating centerpole, and at the same time make the tent much more stable. It is a little tricky to set up the tent the first couple of times, but after that it’s a breeze. Please don’t give up on it - it’s the best tent I have ever had. Thanks for one more of your videoes - a great pleasure every time... 😃 Greetings from Denmark 🇩🇰
Hi Paul I walked past you last Thursday as you were coming down Ladybower Tor probably from Derwent moor area you said hello, what are the chances of running into to you? I carried on along Derwent Edge up to the trig point good seeing you out and thanks for the videos I'll be interested to see the next one.
I have a £45 Vango Soul 200 used it dozens of times in heavy rain at Motorcycle race meetings. Give it a spray of Fabsil a few weeks before using and it never leaks.
Tip. Lengthen pole a tad or loosen line at back especially back left and tighten front lines to help tighten that rear corner. You don't want that corner as loose as that. When I took my DD pyramid I wasn't sure how good sealing was so took a tube and whacked a bit on from inside on two spots then when stopped raining put a dab outside opposite and that sorted it. Although I'd not expect that in your situation... looks like just a few spots so just do the bits that leaked hopefully not all needs doing again. Interesting camp. What day were you in lakes? I was camping there Wednesday to Saturday three nights got lucky no rain lol
Start of movie is lovely video shooting format. Looks 4k , no actually 8k doulby :). Sorry off to work will watch later. Yes some still have to work :)
Hi Paul- that was a bit of a slightly draughty location! Not the best of situations to pitch a flimsy lightweight tent! The earl;y part of your vid reminded me of the day I pitched my budget Lichfield Scorpion 2** in the 'relative' calm and within four hours it was blowing a gale and a thunderstorm then lit up the lent like a light bulb.I felt like a crazy (but somehow happy) man, cooking my dinner in the tiny porch. I loved the feeling of fragile security as the tent took all the knocks the weather could throw at it. Thankfully, even with a mild dribble of a nearby stream developing into a raging torrent and the rest of the field being sodden and hideous with wet, i had chosen the one spot that remained unsaturated due to being a slight 'pimple' above the rest which was like the ground you illustrated in the vid. Boggy!. Talk about providence. That was more than 1mm of 'soft refreshings'!! More like 1cm!! At least! i know that the 'tough gigs' can be daunting but isn't it great to get through them and look back? i guess, being from the 'Emerald Isle', Stephen is used to moisture. He certainly found out that we in the UK Mainland are not exempt from it. WHAT IS IT WITH STEAK? OK, it really tastes the business (we all know that) but it makes me feel that we on this side of the pond are getting the same idea as the Yanks, that Steak is the be all and end all,* Over there, they are happy for the S American Rain Forests to be slaughtered for SHORT-TERM prairies for their indecent appetite for the above. I'm still an old-fashioned aficionado of the English bacon and/or sausage, egg and beans with anything that is at hand (the more handy, the merrier). As for the tent in the video, I'd ebay it tomorrow. * ref your recent video about environment ** was RRP £91 in the 90s and I got it for £58 at Springfields in Burton - I treasure that tent like a friend.
I think this is my favourite video you've done. It's real, and the banter at the end was brilliant. Although I do want to know about that pack. More genuine (non review) and collab videos please.
Jeez, you got a right soggy night there mate. Good meet up with Stephen though, I've watched him on and off over the years, I like his tech reviews. 😁 👍🏻
I saw you mld in another video after you sold it I'd live a tipi myself or a mid I find my helm 1 compact is just too compact greatnfro packing away but I need a bit more space for my biker gear too
I had a similar experience on Kinder Scout just using my DD tarp in pouring down rain I finished up with an 1/2 inch deep moat all the way round the tent and inside the tent a raised island in the middle kept me dry.
@@malcbarrass7090 Could you explain in details how you raise the ground? I mean, how is that done, are you really serious? you raised the floor of the tent, how?
@@malcbarrass7090 So, don't say you raised anything then, say buy a tent that was designed with a raised island. Do you see where you keep misleading people now? you were talking as if any person could just raise any tent's island and problem solved, no! you have the right tent design and that was what helped you, anybody with the wrong tent can't apply your suggestion. I know you know where I'm coming from now unless you're still in denial.
This type of tent is great in conditions that barely require a tent at all. The Lake district is a great place to test how truly waterproof your kit setup. Great frying pan, recently bought one, loving the coating and overall design. Look forward to seeing what your next tent is, though I haven't found a truly remarkable tent that weighs under 3kg yet.
Nemo Kunai 2p 😁 The reason I'd suggest my Nemo as remarkable is down to it being a tent that can be used in the mountains, it'll take heavy weather, it has 4 (extra) guy lines that attach directly to the inner pole structure which when the wind starts to hit 40mph + becomes really useful. It has enough pole cross over to take snow loading and crosswinds, and lastly the inner mesh panels can be zipped and covered over in seconds so that no spin drift or fine snow can enter the tent. The same panels can be completely opened up for summer air flow. It's also a 2kg tent . Beat that!! ( @greenpanda it's not a cheap tent but it's also not up there with Hilleberg pricing, if you can afford to try one out I couldn't recommend it enough. It's a bit short on pegs and cord out of the bag, but that seems to be the way of most 'premium' tents over the last two decades and I wouldn't lose sleep over it.)
@@RebelRDX I will check it out, thanks. When I said remarkable, I suppose I meant without any immediate obvious flaws. For example, the Hilleberg Akto is a very impressve 1.7kg, 4 season tent with great stability and ventilation options, but still condensation is an issue and internal height is a factor.
@@greenpanda7121 Ugh the Akto. They never look 'right' even after spending most of the evening adjusting the guy lines! Always want to sag somewhere. I've never met anyone interesting who used a Hilleberg they are always so serious 😂
@@RebelRDX It is very similar to a lightweight Jannu. Maybe more versatile, less wind stable, but with a very angular vestibule which leaves usable space for cooking/storage limited. I guess that comes down to personal preference though, what works for some doesn't work for others.
That looked like the worst F....ing camp ever, but it's not all about the glamour, it f...ks...up sometimes and it was nice to see that you shared your experiences. Good video in a funny sorta way 👌
Nice one Paul, that rain was non stop, atleast the tent got put thru its paces properly, better to find out it leaks now rather than if you're by yourself with no backup shelter, great video mate 👍
Uuuuuffff sir, that looks wet, I'd be pissed at that seam sealing too.....Great content as always, just shows that Mountain forecast isn't always right and that camping isn't always sunshine and sunsets 👍
I've had $40 Coleman tents that kept me warm and dry in an all-night deluge, and I did not seam seal or water seal. Tents that leak in 2022 PISS ME OFF
Dear Paul, I think you misheard, they didn't say a mm of rain, they said a km.🤣 Nevertheless, I love these stormy adventures and the view up there is simply breathtaking!
I bet you were dreaming of all the other options on your tent shelf all night. I'd happily carry my Quasar up there for an overnighter in those conditions for the piece of mind. Good review of the ThermaRest as a lilo, pleased you didn't float off downstream 🤣
What tent was this Paul? I cannot see it named in the description ,nor in comments ? It looks very similar to my Gonex Lightweight tent which also comes with an inner mesh tent. Have used in bad rain conditions like this video,however I had the tent sides much closer to the ground and had a good tent footprint inside .This protected my inner tent from getting soaked without a doubt.Tent came seam sealed and never leaked after 14 hours of solid wind and rain. It cost me only £99 on Amazon and comes with an Aluminum pole,waterproofed, seam sealed..weight 2kg ⛺️ 🙂
A great video paul loved the intro 👌..a great spot to camp up there albeit better in the sun mate and steak for breakfast now thats special, the shelter yeah may need some work but all part of the experience paul, cheers marra class again all the best 👍 😀 🏕
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Hi , a little sajustion, a sm but heavy tarp would be a nice back up for your tent or yourself when or if u need it ,so u not get to cold & wet to get sick from it , but u have some wt so that will help , I don't y I'm suggesting it , ☕🍯🍶🏕
@@proudchristian77 i almost had a stroke trying to read that comment
I had a similar problem with LanShan 1 Pro. It was battered about by wind and alot of condensation inside.
Pitching in a natural drainage spot is probably asking for trouble.
You've been through the rain and wind all night. The clouds on the top of the mountain look like fog. Thanks for inviting me to a nice place.
Was in me mates MLD cricket up on the brecons Saturday evening. Had a lot of rain in the morning,but nothing came in,so he said. I was in my £12.00 Lidl tent and as dry as a bone.
All the best.
That opening sequence is something I would expect to see in a movie. Great video as always!
Glad you are both still chipper despite a disturbed sleep. Great scenery. You had your own personal ‘Lake District’ - outside and inside the tent! Enjoyable content as ever.
Hmm Two lad used a Duomid to do the first winter crossing (2015 I think) of the PCT 2663 miles,they took MLD Duomid and said they would take it again
Ugh, what a nightmare! This, among other things, is why I just won't do flys that don't reach the ground, anymore; not just to block all the rain & splashback, but also because keeping the wind out = keeping the flapping down + also keeps me warmer.
I could never be as rugged as you, Paul. Good on ya.
Looks like you made a poor pitch selection....and the Duomid needed to be pitched slightly tighter... you need big pegs.....9" Eastons !
Enjoyed the video.
Cheers 👍
Not wanting to sound smug but this is why I only ever camp with a goretex bivvy bag, and a poncho or tarp. I have had too many bad experiences with leaky tents, or tents which weren't leaky but pitched inner first, so pitching in the rain meant you had a wet inner. With a poncho/tarp it doesn't matter if water somehow gets in, I'm guaranteed to be dry and warm in my bivvy bag.
I agree about the bivvy bag. Makes any sleeping bag a much nicer place and saves you when the tent fails you. I typically carry a bothy bag and a tarp/poncho too. Being wet and cold on the hill changes camping into a survival situation, and as a friend once said “if you’re in a survival situation, you’re doing it wrong”.
Great video but I’m just wondering why I get boil in the bag meatballs 🤢 and Stephen gets fillet 🥩???? And the only purpose of a tent is to keep you dry! Epic fail!!! It better be going back 😉
😂😂 He made pavlova for dessert as well 😛
@@StephenJReid it’s okay, you can have your pavlova and steak, I got a packet of Northern Irish tray bake things so I’m not bitter 😂
@@happycreativemind 😂😂😂
Always so positive 😞
Ask him to make some of those fifteens to make it up to you - they're a no bake recipe and the best thing about northern Ireland!
Paul, I have just found your channel and been watching your videos back to back for a week. I live down on london and watching your videos and the locations I know and miss so much has done wonders for my mental health!! This video is so brave of you to post and I hope it helped making it. For me contentment is all about contrasts in life, and I hope you have some balance since you posted it. I am full of respect for you and wish you the very best...
That’s why us oldies still love a double skin tent, do you remember the old force 10 tents, bullet proof but heavy.
They are still around. I saw about twenty of them in use at Ten Tors on Dartmoor last weekend, a classic design.
@@wandering_not_lost probably not the cotton ones surely they were a bugger to keep the mould at bay. Not for the ultra lighter.
@@kennywoods8713 yes, these were cotton. Vango still make and sell the Force ten tent in two different sizes in cotton, you wouldn't want to backpack with one of these though, far too heavy. If you dry them properly before you put them away mould shouldn't be a problem. I help at my local scouts and they have canvas tents that are forty years old and still in usable condition.
Vango Force 10s! Remember those. I remember the first dome tents, the Phazordome, our scout group had 2 but the leaders used to sleep in them on hikes. Also remember those Blacks Good Companion tents? A bright orange pyramid tent which could sleep 3.
@@simonh6371 I had a Good Companion, an excellent tent.
Have used mids from MLD for over 10 years including the duomid and always seam sealed them myself. Id put this shelter as one of the best on the market. Once you get the picth dialled and add a polycro or tyvek groundsheet you'll be laughing. I use a bivi and groundsheet under an MLD mid. With this config the duomid is overkill for 1p but perfect if you have a dog or partner with you. It's a 2p shelter so will catch the wind more than a 1p shelter like the hilleburge.
Classic camping opening line “Oh god, was not expecting this!”. Haha. Most of us can probably identify with you there. Cheers.
Wow. What a difference that opening makes. I know it sucks when the tent leaks but on the other hand it kept a fair bit of water to the outside. Could be worse,ey!
Brave man Paul, using that Pole tent................ Watched both videos and great to see two perspectives of the same wild camp.
Opening scene was beautifully shot. Felt like I was 'on-set' with you. Props to SR and you Paul for coming up with a new idea.
Paul, Ron needs to hear about this. They’ve gone for neat seam sealing instead of bombproof. Britain needs bombproof. Any leakage through the seams gets hurled about the tent when a gust strikes so I consider this a serious shortcoming. You might want to mention 146K subscribers but MLD usually give helpful replies and Ron has always replied himself to my few emails. It’s a good job fixing the problem isn’t difficult but, if you’ve paid for a service, it should be correctly. My own Duomid is DCF and I love it.
My Duomid is DCF, I wouldn't trust the nylon ones in the UK, too much wind on exposed hills, the DCF gets a much tighter pitch and doesn't sag when it gets wet.
What an opening scene! Love it!
Thank you for all the pain that you went through to bring us such a wonderful beautiful sights p thank you so very much may God bless you and keep you safe always peace my friend
Takes me back to my childhood camping in the lakes getting washed out. I enjoyed it thanks.
Hi Paul, why not do a video on how you seam seal the tent ??
Hi Paul, great video. Why not do a piece on how you seam seal the tent for viewers??
This was actually (ironically) a pretty nice, calming video mate. You've got such a relaxed way of approaching things and that shines through here. A great excursion and video, nice one.
Steak for breakfast!! Now thats living! 👏👏👏
Great opening sequence.
A night with not the best weather at all, but a night you will always talk about it, so these kind of moments actually become memories. Also good footage this time. Also your friend is a nice person and yeah we need more videos with him
Interesting what you say about it being complicated to set up. I thought it was one of the easiest and fastest to set up of all shelters!
Thank you for sharing your adventure! Cheers!
MLD make very high quality tents. This is definitely not normal. I guarantee MLD would replace it for you without question.
I've used the silnylon trailstar in horrendous weather dry as a bone. Agree with you. Or simply remember where the drips were and add some sealant to it. Good to see a popular RUclipsr using MLD even quality products can slip occasionally. Paul will figure it all out he's still learning 😉 😆
Good job it wasn’t an expensive one…
…oh.
Best way of testing....rain and plenty of it, I'm doing the same at weekend with Trekkertent Drift 1 going up to Glen Nevis at Penny Pass, see how we go, expecting rain. I carry a Bivvy Bag just in case.
You mates do well together. Hope to see the two of you do some more collaborations.
You nearly got a drenching Paul - imagine if the bath tub were inverted. That would make you a wild swimmer. Good going. Mark
Some harsh conditions haha. Great video 👍🏼 and Stephen’s is superb.
Finally got out at the weekend for my Scarp 1’s maiden outing, and my first wild camp since being a kid (it’s been far too long!), thanks to you, as I decided to finally get back to it, after watching your videos.
Tent was great, love it. Hope you get the issues sorted, look forward to the next vid.
Cheers, Gary.
That chest rig looks like the Osprey Archeon. I used one on my recent Cumbria Way, doing the mountain route. Great piece of equipment and reasonably priced.
That’s the one! Love it, favourite bit of kit. I was keeping a telephoto lens in it so I could swap without having to take off my huge pack everytimw.
Nice dynamic to your videos with some friendly banter.
Wow that opening Scene Looks amazing!
Was feeling somewhat smug in my tent hearing yours flapping all night 😂
Thanks again for showing me this amazing location, was a pleasure meeting you even if you did insult our national traybake. Better watch out as a fella with a special set of skills is from my hometown 😛😂😂
Will definitely have to get you over to the Mourne Mountains or the Causeway Coast sometime 🙂
Some additional comments from Louise:
“I wouldn’t call that a tent, it’s more of a roof. There’s a dirty great hole in the middle. STOP SHOWING US THIS TERRIBLE RAIN! He’s got his bread on a fish chopping board! I’d want some sauce on that!”
bloody hell that intro was cinematic, excellent👍👍
Sorry about the leaking wig wam! You mentioned seam sealing it yourself. I found when seam sealing a Lanshan I used Gear Aid grip sil (Silnet). Mix about a third of the tube in a small container with a little white spirit to achieve a Consistency of runny honey. Using the small brush supplied with the sealant, and wipe off any ‘mistakes’ with a clean cloth with white spirit . You will end up with a lot neater job. Plus a a WWW. (Waterproof Wig Wam) ATB
Gawd, a tent has one job - to keep you dry. I’d bin that thing when you get home - you’ve got plenty of proper tents. Loved the video though, made me smile, thanks for sharing the bad as well as the good!
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If pitched correctly this tent is snug to the ground and dry.
Leaking tent ouch 😓 always a good idea to pack a waterproof bivy bag even if it’s a light weight one . Great video though the start looks epic .
Reminds me of a trip to Nantcol. The tent was fine and didn't leak, it is quite cosy hearing the rain when you know you are out of it and sheltered, but not for 48 hours, almost non stop!
The water table was by then above ground level and there was no escape from the mini river, which just flowed its way from back to front and into the main river running through the site.
Only option was pack up and go home and everything was soaked through.
That chest pack looks a handy piece of kit, unless you already have a chest of your own that you can’t see your feet over 🤣
Shame about the leaky tent Paul… that was an unforgiving ‘millimetre’ !😳
The scenic photography was stunning. Such a beautiful area for hikes.
Thank you.
All the great tents you have and you took a sackcloth up there lol! You need to hire Stephen to film your adventures. Looked like the start of a movie!
Stephen approves this message 😂 although I’m a ferry trip and a lot of driving away ⛴ 🚐
What trousers is Stephen wearing? I like the look of them, not too baggy like my Montanes.
Next review - waterproof jim jams!
Epic scenery once the rain went off though ;-)
That opening sequence was just beautiful, and some of the rain shots just felt like pure ASMR!
Shame about the rain, but it just adds to the experience right?
It definitely added to the atmosphere!
I gave a clap when he cracked the beer, go ed lad 👊👊
I’ll never understand why people don’t use tent footprints. They keep you and the tent dry and make the vestibule so much more liveable. And they weigh less than a can of beer that everyone seems to think is essential camping gear.
A can of beer IS essential camping gear.
All of the above plus it protects the under tent fabric 💪
Yeah the youtube meme of taking a beer on every trip is a bit odd, seems like everyone is copying
What’s a tent footprint? Is it an American thing? Never heard of them
@@StoutProper A tent footprint is a piece of waterproof material that goes under the floor of the inner tent and possibly some of the vestibule. Smaller dimension than the inner to keep water from the floor and protect the bottom from wear. Made of plastic, silicone treated fabric, dyneema, tyvek, cut down shower curtains, etc. Like many pieces of gear, has pros and cons and is not cure for bad site selection but can make it more tolerable. Usually.
Nice opener. Great intro set up!!
Epic views * Thank you for taking us along :-)
Was tempted to make a smart arsed comment such as Prior Preparation Prevents P*** Poor Performance, always expect the unexpected, prepare for all eventualities, be prepared, etc etc etc. But I won't. I love rain in the Fells, make me feel alive. And thanks you for reminding me why one should never buy a tent that needs seam sealing!
Lesson learned Phil. I paid MLD to seam seal it in the factory. You would think they would have done a better job than me but they made a piss poor effort. I’ll Sean seal it myself this week.
@@PaulMessner Hi Paul I would really recommend you to use a poleconnector and two trekkingpoles. Just take two aluminium tubes and connect them with a piece of gardenhose. Then you avoid the irritating centerpole, and at the same time make the tent much more stable. It is a little tricky to set up the tent the first couple of times, but after that it’s a breeze. Please don’t give up on it - it’s the best tent I have ever had. Thanks for one more of your videoes - a great pleasure every time... 😃 Greetings from Denmark 🇩🇰
Hi Paul I walked past you last Thursday as you were coming down Ladybower Tor probably from Derwent moor area you said hello, what are the chances of running into to you?
I carried on along Derwent Edge up to the trig point good seeing you out and thanks for the videos I'll be interested to see the next one.
I have a £45 Vango Soul 200 used it dozens of times in heavy rain at Motorcycle race meetings. Give it a spray of Fabsil a few weeks before using and it never leaks.
You're going to have to drag Stephen on your trips. Awesome into. 👍
Tip. Lengthen pole a tad or loosen line at back especially back left and tighten front lines to help tighten that rear corner. You don't want that corner as loose as that. When I took my DD pyramid I wasn't sure how good sealing was so took a tube and whacked a bit on from inside on two spots then when stopped raining put a dab outside opposite and that sorted it. Although I'd not expect that in your situation... looks like just a few spots so just do the bits that leaked hopefully not all needs doing again. Interesting camp. What day were you in lakes? I was camping there Wednesday to Saturday three nights got lucky no rain lol
One pitched correctly here….
ruclips.net/video/KWHTbtBf5UA/видео.html
Start of movie is lovely video shooting format. Looks 4k , no actually 8k doulby :). Sorry off to work will watch later. Yes some still have to work :)
Hi Paul- that was a bit of a slightly draughty location! Not the best of situations to pitch a flimsy lightweight tent!
The earl;y part of your vid reminded me of the day I pitched my budget Lichfield Scorpion 2** in the 'relative' calm and within four hours it was blowing a gale and a thunderstorm then lit up the lent like a light bulb.I felt like a crazy (but somehow happy) man, cooking my dinner in the tiny porch.
I loved the feeling of fragile security as the tent took all the knocks the weather could throw at it.
Thankfully, even with a mild dribble of a nearby stream developing into a raging torrent and the rest of the field being sodden and hideous with wet, i had chosen the one spot that remained unsaturated due to being a slight 'pimple' above the rest which was like the ground you illustrated in the vid. Boggy!. Talk about providence.
That was more than 1mm of 'soft refreshings'!! More like 1cm!! At least!
i know that the 'tough gigs' can be daunting but isn't it great to get through them and look back?
i guess, being from the 'Emerald Isle', Stephen is used to moisture. He certainly found out that we in the UK Mainland are not exempt from it.
WHAT IS IT WITH STEAK?
OK, it really tastes the business (we all know that) but it makes me feel that we on this side of the pond are getting the same idea as the Yanks, that Steak is the be all and end all,* Over there, they are happy for the S American Rain Forests to be slaughtered for SHORT-TERM prairies for their indecent appetite for the above. I'm still an old-fashioned aficionado of the English bacon and/or sausage, egg and beans with anything that is at hand (the more handy, the merrier).
As for the tent in the video, I'd ebay it tomorrow.
* ref your recent video about environment
** was RRP £91 in the 90s and I got it for £58 at Springfields in Burton - I treasure that tent like a friend.
I think this is my favourite video you've done. It's real, and the banter at the end was brilliant. Although I do want to know about that pack. More genuine (non review) and collab videos please.
Someone’s stepped up their videography game. Awesome video mate!!
Steak for breakfast?
Nooooo!
Gotta be porridge every time! Low glycemic... releases energy slowly throughout the day!
Great as ever video tho Paul
Jeez, you got a right soggy night there mate. Good meet up with Stephen though, I've watched him on and off over the years, I like his tech reviews. 😁 👍🏻
Just from the first 30secs I can see this is going to be a great video! Drone and cameraman/woman... Looks stunning pal. 😍
The weather might have been bad but the views of that steak butty were spectacular oh and the lakes were'nt bad either
Sucks when it rains but hopefully you'll still have some good memories from the trip.
I saw you mld in another video after you sold it I'd live a tipi myself or a mid I find my helm 1 compact is just too compact greatnfro packing away but I need a bit more space for my biker gear too
Beautiful opening.
I had a similar experience on Kinder Scout just using my DD tarp in pouring down rain I finished up with an 1/2 inch deep moat all the way round the tent and inside the tent a raised island in the middle kept me dry.
How did you raise the tent to form that island?
@@malcbarrass7090 Could you explain in details how you raise the ground? I mean, how is that done, are you really serious? you raised the floor of the tent, how?
@@Sir-Kay which part of "a raised island in the middle" are you not understanding? I didn't raise it, it was already there.
@@Sir-Kay 🪜
@@malcbarrass7090 So, don't say you raised anything then, say buy a tent that was designed with a raised island. Do you see where you keep misleading people now? you were talking as if any person could just raise any tent's island and problem solved, no! you have the right tent design and that was what helped you, anybody with the wrong tent can't apply your suggestion. I know you know where I'm coming from now unless you're still in denial.
This shows why the current trend of lightweight tents really aren't made for the British weather.
This type of tent is great in conditions that barely require a tent at all. The Lake district is a great place to test how truly waterproof your kit setup. Great frying pan, recently bought one, loving the coating and overall design. Look forward to seeing what your next tent is, though I haven't found a truly remarkable tent that weighs under 3kg yet.
Nemo Kunai 2p 😁 The reason I'd suggest my Nemo as remarkable is down to it being a tent that can be used in the mountains, it'll take heavy weather, it has 4 (extra) guy lines that attach directly to the inner pole structure which when the wind starts to hit 40mph + becomes really useful. It has enough pole cross over to take snow loading and crosswinds, and lastly the inner mesh panels can be zipped and covered over in seconds so that no spin drift or fine snow can enter the tent. The same panels can be completely opened up for summer air flow. It's also a 2kg tent . Beat that!! ( @greenpanda it's not a cheap tent but it's also not up there with Hilleberg pricing, if you can afford to try one out I couldn't recommend it enough. It's a bit short on pegs and cord out of the bag, but that seems to be the way of most 'premium' tents over the last two decades and I wouldn't lose sleep over it.)
MSR Hubba NX (1.2kg)
@@RebelRDX I will check it out, thanks. When I said remarkable, I suppose I meant without any immediate obvious flaws. For example, the Hilleberg Akto is a very impressve 1.7kg, 4 season tent with great stability and ventilation options, but still condensation is an issue and internal height is a factor.
@@greenpanda7121 Ugh the Akto. They never look 'right' even after spending most of the evening adjusting the guy lines! Always want to sag somewhere. I've never met anyone interesting who used a Hilleberg they are always so serious 😂
@@RebelRDX It is very similar to a lightweight Jannu. Maybe more versatile, less wind stable, but with a very angular vestibule which leaves usable space for cooking/storage limited. I guess that comes down to personal preference though, what works for some doesn't work for others.
Not the best of nights, or tents, but kudos for toughing it out. Keep up the good work Paul.
I thought you'd discovered some nice, moody filters and new lenses when I saw the opening! Nice job from Stephen 👍
That looked like the worst F....ing camp ever, but it's not all about the glamour, it f...ks...up sometimes and it was nice to see that you shared your experiences. Good video in a funny sorta way 👌
Loved the video Paul keep them coming
The steak sandwich looked awesome. That chest pack is a cool idea. Everything which is important at hand instantly. What make was it?
Smashing it with the production quality. Nice one Paul.
Nice one Paul, that rain was non stop, atleast the tent got put thru its paces properly, better to find out it leaks now rather than if you're by yourself with no backup shelter, great video mate 👍
Uuuuuffff sir, that looks wet, I'd be pissed at that seam sealing too.....Great content as always, just shows that Mountain forecast isn't always right and that camping isn't always sunshine and sunsets 👍
I think I would have packed up the tent and gone and bothied at wainscarth or dubs hut 😀 well done sticking it out.
My mate was staying in dubs hut that night, they said Paul popped in on them haha
That tent would be great in my neck of the woods. No rain lots of sun and heat.
Surprised you didn't put garlic butter on the bread and fry it in your pan until nice and crispy. Saw Gordon Ramsey do it😮
What set up did you use for cooking please Paul?
I was just thinking, there's no WAY I'd camp in that weather! then the morning view... I think it'd make up for it!
Is it the MLD solomid xl?
The link you show are unable to connect….
(I’m thinking to buy it 😮…)
Thank you for sharing
What kind of tent was that?
Did you ever find out?
Nice drone shots in the intro.
I've had $40 Coleman tents that kept me warm and dry in an all-night deluge, and I did not seam seal or water seal. Tents that leak in 2022 PISS ME OFF
I'd have buggered off along to dubs hut or warnscale bothy if my tent leaked and I was up that way! Bad luck paul, it happens to the best of us!
Dear Paul, I think you misheard, they didn't say a mm of rain, they said a km.🤣 Nevertheless, I love these stormy adventures and the view up there is simply breathtaking!
I’ve check that tent seems like a lot of money for not a lot and if you add stuff on from the website the price sky rockets
Apparently someone's holding a raffle for a Hilleberg Soulo. if your looking for a dry tent, maybe buy some ticket's
That was quite a wash out. Those seams don't look taped but all the same did ok considering the 1 mm rain 😉
I could watch a full video of that intro!
Ahem: ruclips.net/video/m9IHAOg4urY/видео.html 😁
I bet you were dreaming of all the other options on your tent shelf all night. I'd happily carry my Quasar up there for an overnighter in those conditions for the piece of mind. Good review of the ThermaRest as a lilo, pleased you didn't float off downstream 🤣
What tent was this Paul? I cannot see it named in the description ,nor in comments ? It looks very similar to my Gonex Lightweight tent which also comes with an inner mesh tent. Have used in bad rain conditions like this video,however I had the tent sides much closer to the ground and had a good tent footprint inside .This protected my inner tent from getting soaked without a doubt.Tent came seam sealed and never leaked after 14 hours of solid wind and rain. It cost me only £99 on Amazon and comes with an Aluminum pole,waterproofed, seam sealed..weight 2kg ⛺️ 🙂
A great video paul loved the intro 👌..a great spot to camp up there albeit better in the sun mate and steak for breakfast now thats special, the shelter yeah may need some work but all part of the experience paul, cheers marra class again all the best 👍 😀 🏕