Real tension, yet clear thinking and intelligent search & rescue decisions saved the day. It's essential that all parties understand the steps to take in such occasions... and you all did. I enjoyed the excitement and the usual great video work, Ronny, and can hardly wait for the next episode. 👍
I checked out Jack's vids on you tube and was knocked over by all the survival tips I have never heard anywhere else. All that stuff about torch batteries and the like. It should be mandatory viewing for anybody going bush. Cheers Moose.
good vid Ronny ,Travis, brings us all to attention on how important it is to all of us on how easy it is to get separated on these trips, it turned out all good , keep up the great work guys , Cheers Rolly
Ronny Dahl, As always, great photography and interesting commentary. I love the way we have 'inclusion' to your merry band of brave adventurers along the journey. Good to see on Patreon the comment/support drive for Amalia. Amalia you do such a good job not only with your professional great videography, but also as a valued member of this merry band of intrepid sojourners. You together with Ronny bring out veritable Jewels of very high quality interest, from what others might pass by without hardly a mention. And this is why we viewers/followers become fascinated and feel so included in your journeying; to and through our historic Great South Land. Thankyou each and every one involved, great effort and really appreciated.
Oops forgot to thank you for inclusion of Don's episode, the steps taken and refusal to panic. You do a great service to the public by including this event, and explaining how and what you did about. Calm common sense in action. Don I thank you for getting lost, and not freeking out. Good advice by all in this video, thanks :)
One of your greatest videos. Really enjoyed you including finding a lost team mate as it does show what can happen and how to address the problem. Thanks for sharing.
Good video! That's why, when you're in a convoy, you stop as soon as you loose sight of the vehicle behind you. This is standard practice in South Africa.
You should do a video on survival tips, how to backtrack and track others! Outback survival is essential knowledge that many don't bring with them on their first few outback trips.
Hey Ronny, Enjoyed your honesty and showing how everything unfolded so others can learn from what occurred. A spot tracker for all vehicles would have taken the guess work out of where Don was. Have someone at home base (friend/family) able to check location via computer and relay location of lost vehicle to yourself via sat phone. Whenever travelling alone I have my Spot tracker on, carry a sat phone and have a PLB. Don was essentially travelling alone when he took the wrong turn. I look forward to your next video. :)
Would have been pretty scary losing contact with someone in the convoy mate! Impressed with how calm you guys stayed. Great example of how that situation needed to be dealt with 👍
Great video and best sense of responsibility shown by the team, Ronny tracing the tracks was the best option. Here arrives a requirement for a transponder like in aircraft or an anti T-CAS, that will beep up once the separation starts increasing between vehicles in the convey.
Ora Banda Pub - The people there are awesome - we were there last Easter. My wife asked for a Brandy & Dry, "Sorry, no Brandy. We'll go to Kal and grab a bottle...". And that pub food wasn't a special cook-up for the cameras, did anyone see Amalia's Chicken Parmie? I had that 2 nights in a row - it's that big normally!!!
Great video Ronny, although probably for all the wrong reasons. I was surprised Don didn’t have his own paper maps, probably thought his mates did, therefore Don probably didn’t feel he required any. A lot to learned from this, very educational.
Hey mate thanks for posting all your videos very informative and was good to meet you at the Perth 4x4 show yesterday and showing me what's in project black cheers
Maybe everyone in the trip should know that nights/next destination and also confirm they can locate it on their map/nav gear. Sounds like the plan was to head due North with the lost person going West. If the destination was known I doubt he would have driven too far West? Easy to say after the event though.
Wow - turned out OK. Lost partners - our rule is if you are lost or uncomfortable - stop, stay put and the lead guide backtracks (as Ronny did). Our hunting camp rule is if the person has missed two meals then we go looking! Just be prepared. And it is better to set up camp in daylight - way more enjoyable!
If you notify police at first task they can take it down as notice. No different to letting them know you are in the area. Then they are on alert with ambo's, towies etc as well. They can also comms with all radios on standby. Who knows they may end up sending search out for Ronny, not Don who's safely ensconced at the pub, (with another hamburger and chips) and you're wasting your time for 24 hours. If you do a vid on procedures, please get the outback cops on board first. Would be very interesting to hear recommended equipment levels, frequencies, antenna models, trail breadcrumbs, V-sheets, etc.
Mate that was epping most excided video got my heart pounding the chase and tracking! I know it's not funny but you should do this again. Glad you found him. Keep up the good content can't wait for the next episode!
Another Awesome video, I lived 4 houses down from where Hancock got his car blown up in lathlain that was a scary night we were all scared to start our cars the next day
Fantastic guys! So easy to get lost out there. Goes to show how important communication is! Maybe a good idea to invest in HF radios. Loving the series!
@@Alan.livingston everyone would need a sat phone too. But at least hf radio doesn't have black spots like sat phones do. I know hf is more expensive but it bloody works.
In the US, I use APRS as a mobile beaconing system. Garmin Spot or similar allowed in AUS? HAM radio a thing there? APRS on 5-watts is MUCH more likely to reach out than voice on 5-watts. Part of the issue is AUS kept bending to pressure and kept allowing more and more CB style radios on different freq bands than they likely have hashed up all of the useful short range ham bands, and possibly hosed up some useful HF bands.
Ok, after reading up on AUS's version of ham radio, you would need a Standard License, I see nothing about max power, but Foundation doesn't seem to allow APRS, Standard does allow any emission on certain bands as long as narrower than 16KHz. APRS is a great way to track. I can turn my APRS radio up to 50 watts no worries.
Eventually ther e will be V2V messaging. A postal service would allow carrying messages to oncoming or passing vehicles to form a "data highway" of postal vehicles.
Golden rule in 4WD: You are responsible for the person on the back of you, keep them at your sight if possible and if not then DEFINITELY wait for them at turns! If Travis had followed this rule all the hassle wouldn't have been necessary! Definitely not Don's fault, anyways it can happen to anybody, just remember to mention this rule always before a trip since even experienced people seem to forget it sometimes. Good everything went well!
Well it seems the tagalong rules went out the window. At an intersection wait for the following vehicle. Great video and even better outcome. That burger would have sustained Don for a month.
Ronny Dahl Most GPS’es i have had, have the option of enterring GPS coordinates as longtitude and lattitude. You could prepare a few waypoints for the whole trip and put them in your favorites list before leaving. But just waiting at every turn for the people behind you works as well i guess.
I will now call you "Dahl, Texas Ranger". Would love to know how Don got lost. He would have copped a swift back hander upon finding him though if the reason for getting lost was due to carelessness. Other than that, glad you found him boys. You are like a Bloodhound sniffing those tyre tracks.
Sorry for being late to watch this episode been busy and to comment. A bit pedantic I know but the two fire bombings occurred while Don Hancock was still alive. I actually worked at the Ora Banda mine about 500 meters up the road in the 90's (before the Hancock's).
Awesome video as usual, but it's a bit scary that Don just kept driving after losing communication. 5 or 10k's is understandable while hoping to pick it up again, but he should of realised it's best to just stop.
At the time because of the fuel top up he did he was thinking we were ahead of him. I think it’s easy to judge without actually being there. Your mind can play tricks on you especially if you are tired too
@@Ronny_Dahl as you so rightly point out, being there can be quite a bit different to hindsight etc. The factors at play (in the 'being there' bit) often cause our mindset to have different priorities/points-of-reference to consider. What you guys did in that circumstance is imho a good example of dealing with something that could have turned quite nasty. Yes perhaps in hindsight you might have considered one or two other possible options (which may or may not have been available), but you guys did a great job, and the outcome was great. The whole event you have very effectively shared with us here. Just look at the level of discussion going on!. This in itself is testimony of a job well done. Thanks Ronny and Team Exstream. :)
I am not one to critic your off-road planning. But seriously guys. You spend a fortune on those vehicles and then miss important safety equipment you need out there. Not that you were in really isolated country but you could have been. My whole vehicle and camper trailer wouldn’t even owe me ten grand but I spent $600 and $15 per month for a satsleve for my iPhone and carry a PLB. Your situation wouldn’t warrant setting of your PLB but a sat sleve or sat phone would have saved you the amount of fuel you’ve all wasted. Great video as usual. Definitely brings home the vastness of the interior and how things can go wrong very quickly.
I have a sat phone but the other two vehicles did not. My second sat phone was with Wayne so I did not have it on this trip. Sat phones scare a lot of people as they think its expensive BUT they are really cheap when you consider how good they can be when things go wrong. In our case only I had one...
Isn't is wise to keep a person that doesn't know the area in the middle of the convoy? I would think the persons who are familiar with the area should drive front and back, that way nobody can fall behind or out of convoy that are not familiar with the route... Maybe it's also a good idea to do spot checks over the radios every so often specially when it's dark just to check if everybody are still accounted for. Glad everything worked out at the end!!
Billy was sitting around the camp fire with a few other boys and was shot, the pub was fire bombed first before Hancock was blown up then again after he was blown up.
Hi Ronny, well done! Can you in the future explain iPhone sleeve. Your GPS: is it showing real map or symbolic like in street cars? I was a few years ago in Aussie and solved the late return hour from outback test drive with notebook, nodisplay gps and on-line Oziexplorer (to get the right direction). Hallo from EU!
@Ronny Dahl, bit disappointed regarding the comment about 24 hour hours being lost before contacting the police. You can and should contact them as soon as you are ''lost'' They are not going to send a search team of 100 choppers but many eyes make for light work. 24 hours of being lost is an American term and are not used in Australia especially when in a rural/remote setting. Whilst I am a random dude on youtube commenting please contact your local police station to discuss the time frame to when you need to contact them.
Mate I thought about all that and Don knows to stay with the vehicle and knows how to take care of himself. If it was someone else it may have been a different story or decision. I was tracking him as well so we were on the hunt for him. I made that call and I would have taken on the responsibility of the out come.
In the end if they wouldn’t find him, Don could ask someone passing by to tow him to the next fuel stop. I assume he has a snatchstrap in his truck (that’s 4WD’ing tool number 1 i guess).
@@Ronny_Dahl Hey mate, I was only talking about the comment ''it is not the 24-hour mark yet, and they don't do anything before 24 hours''. I understand Don seem pretty well set up and independent. It is more the fact you are feeding your audience information that could be misleading in a time of crisis and this seems to be a common misconception in Australia. The fact is once a person in a remote/rural area has been misplaced it is a catch-up game and people take increased risks. By calling the local cop shop they may know a person who drives the road every day and just asks them to keep an eye out and that is all the actions they take, you are sharing the responsibility as an effective leader. I love your content and don't be meaning to be chucking shade at you for one comment. I suspect you are pretty well trained but that comment shows that a refresher HLTAID005 course could help.
Just a question to look for lost Don..... why didn't you launch the drone as high as you could at night and try to survey the birds eye view for any lights in the distance...???
I don’t think it’s possible if you have been driving for more than 30 minutes after getting lost. If you see an airplane far away in the sky, that’s approximately 40km distance (i checked with Flightradar24 once). If you drive 100kph for a while, the dot of light you see via your drone will be even smaller than what a far away airplane looks like. And maybe you get a false positive if there is other traffic nearby.
I watched the section where Don was found twice in case I missed something and I am still confused about how anyone could head in the wrong direction for so long. Surely he has at least a smartphone on board with a basic mapping system on it. Even the cheapest phones I have owned have built in GPS that shows where you are regardless of actual carrier signal. Even if they don't show tracks, you can still see where you are in the general scheme of things. Don didn't even seem to be aware of the correct name of the planned destination for the night, so that is a real worry. A written itinerary in each vehicle might go a long way to prevent something similar happening in future.
He didn’t know he was lost until it was too late. After the event we have spoken a lot about this and learnt from each other different ways people think. I think a video on this topic would be the goer.
I’ve tried this before to see if I could spot someone in the dark. You will be surprised how little you can actually see unless head lights are facing you. Tail lights are almost impossible to see that far away. Also we worked out he went that way already and we didn’t have the file to chase him so either way it would have made no difference
Ronny Dahl really wow that’s crazy. Anyways I’m glad it worked out and everyone was ok . I really love all your content the night time lapse shots are amazing. Keep it up man .
Awesome video! I notice he is now in the middle. Maybe a GPS tracker for the South African! Was going to say send him to Australia for punishment, but he is already there. Only a few will get that. LOL
Two questions first: Are all the vehicles equipped with multiple navigation methods? i.e. GPS with backup and paper maps with compass. Do all of the vehicles use the same fuel type? So I paused at the 'OMFG, Don has been gone for an hour and this is where we think he went' point. Not knowing where the fuel points are on the map, my thought revolves around your jerry cans. Do you have enough cans to send _one truck_ after Don - even if you have to siphon diesel from the other trucks? If yes, then proceed. Does one truck have the fuel to proceed to Lake Ballard and return to a fuel point? If yes, that truck goes and stays, hoping to make contact with Don. Again, of yes then proceed. Do the rest of the trucks have enough fuel to return to a fuel point? If yes, they proceed to the fuel point, top up, and wait. Secure extra jerries if possible. Secure satellite phones and distribute to the remaining trucks. If we've made it this far, the truck with jerries heads out on the route that you believe Don followed. That truck will stop just before the point of no return. Another truck will wait at the point of last contact. If you don't have that many trucks, then one follows Don, the other is at the last point of contact. If there is no sign of Don in 24 hours, find a way of hauling bulk fuel - even if it's the water tanks on the trailer - and head up the track you thing Don took and remain in contact. Find him, and bring him home. This is likely over complicated, but that's me. EDIT. Ronnie. You know what you're doing. We _all_ know that. But I'm floored that Don didn't have a paper map. I took my little brother up into the wilds of the Idaho Panhandle on a hunting trip earlier this year. Silly me, I assumed that he had the gear he needed -should something go wrong- (it turns out that he didn't even have a lot of the basic gear that he'd need on a day-to-day basis. He just assumed I'd have it). He absolutely didn't. He's a big guy and he's out of shape. He tapped out 1/2 mile into a hike where we were hoping to find elk. The next day, I walked a heavily forested ridge trail hoping to come across elk and ended up in a situation where I was using a trail with bear sign only minutes old and more than two miles to go. While I luckily didn't cross paths with the bear, less than a mile later I found similarly recent signs of mountain lion and I had misjudged how much daylight I had left. Needless to say, it was a very tense hike. When I got to the bottom my brother and I had a serious talk about preparedness. He had absolutely no means of navigation and only a faint idea of how to get out to civilization. Even at that point, knowing there was no cell service in the closest town, it hadn't occurred to him to stop and borrow a land line in case of emergency. We both learned a lot from that trip. I quit assuming that others were properly prepared, and we now actively discuss emergency procedures before every trip. This includes communications, navigation, first aid, and emergency situations. If i had encountered the bear or the mountain lion, I would have probably been mauled at the very least. I was armed and had bear spray, but who knows. If the worst had happened, there was no way my little brother could have hiked up to me. The trail alone would have probably killed him. But could he have gotten out and called for help? I hesitate to say yes. If he _had_ gotten out, could he have found his way back to the trailhead? I doubt it. If I had encountered a bear or mountain lion on that trail there's a very real possibility I would have died relying on him. Be prepared. _For everything_
Australia uses UHF and some people carry HF during remote travel. CB radio, AM and upper/lower side band is very rare. Repeater towers for UHF are used a fair bit but you need to know the area channel and probably not so much out there.
Darren Gandy Ah gotcha. We use the 2m band 144hz~ VHF and UHF 70cm 420hz~ quite a bit for off road travel in the United States. Usually use a 50watt mobile unit in the vehicle. There are a good number of large repeater systems but I know Australia has a large number of remote places! Especially considering the population vs size of the country.
@@Intentsrig If only Australia was that forward thinking. You can only have a 5 watt radio unless you have a commercial licence and then you can have 25 watts, but that costs serious money. HF radios use to be popular but you also need a licence (getting the idea Australian Government like ripping its people off) to get the most out of it, like bouncing off beacons or direct to Royal Flying Doctor. This day and age sat phone or sat message services are the best bet for remote travel.
Dougie P You need a license in the US as well but it only cost $10-15! And a 35 question exam you must pass. Yeah sat phones are definitely a useful tool. That Is something I do not have.
@@Ronny_Dahl agreed, just mentioned those two, as I've found that the subscriptions cost a little less with the Garmin, and it can still do two way text messaging, so it's more likely every car could afford to carry one
Great vid and really good you showed what to do if you get split up etc - don’t panic, evaluate and then plan.
Real tension, yet clear thinking and intelligent search & rescue decisions saved the day. It's essential that all parties understand the steps to take in such occasions... and you all did. I enjoyed the excitement and the usual great video work, Ronny, and can hardly wait for the next episode.
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Maate, Your clips are far better then any 4x4 show on Telly.
Awesome info, great team of lads..
Keep up the good work.
Don't forget the Amalia lad, eh. :) That lad makes the job look easy.
I love that we see the good, the bad and the ugly. Just like real life. So many keyboard experts out there, ignore them and keep doing what you do.
One of the best outback survival vids is Jack Absalom's outback survival, here on RUclips. Mans a legend. Nice work team.
I checked out Jack's vids on you tube and was knocked over by all the survival tips I have never heard anywhere else. All that stuff about torch batteries and the like. It should be mandatory viewing for anybody going bush. Cheers Moose.
good vid Ronny ,Travis, brings us all to attention on how important it is to all of us on how easy it is to get separated on these trips, it turned out all good , keep up the great work guys , Cheers Rolly
Cheers rolly was good to see you at the 4wd show again
So cool and collected. And so nice to see that Don was located.
Ronny Dahl,
As always, great photography and interesting commentary. I love the way we have 'inclusion' to your merry band of brave adventurers along the journey.
Good to see on Patreon the comment/support drive for Amalia. Amalia you do such a good job not only with your professional great videography, but also as a valued member of this merry band of intrepid sojourners. You together with Ronny bring out veritable Jewels of very high quality interest, from what others might pass by without hardly a mention.
And this is why we viewers/followers become fascinated and feel so included in your journeying; to and through our historic Great South Land.
Thankyou each and every one involved, great effort and really appreciated.
Oops forgot to thank you for inclusion of Don's episode, the steps taken and refusal to panic. You do a great service to the public by including this event, and explaining how and what you did about. Calm common sense in action. Don I thank you for getting lost, and not freeking out. Good advice by all in this video, thanks :)
Thank you so much mate - I'm learning from the best!
And you are definitely one of the best too. :)
One of your greatest videos. Really enjoyed you including finding a lost team mate as it does show what can happen and how to address the problem. Thanks for sharing.
To add, a great example of why good old fashioned paper maps still win the day... technology can only take you so far.
so true
Once you found Don I cracked open a beer, phew what a relief, cheers boys.
One of your better vids. A little extra tension/excitement thrown in. Steve
I know it's been a few episodes already but the original opening music is so fitting
Good video! That's why, when you're in a convoy, you stop as soon as you loose sight of the vehicle behind you. This is standard practice in South Africa.
Had a similar situation in Baja a few years back...turned out ok, but very stressful when it was happening! Well done!
You should do a video on survival tips, how to backtrack and track others! Outback survival is essential knowledge that many don't bring with them on their first few outback trips.
Glad to see we’re Rockin with Lizzy again!
I've only just stumbled across your channel today, and I'm loving the videos mate,
Awesome happy binge watching
@@Ronny_Dahl I reckon I'm 2 episodes off of buying a 79 hahaha
Great display on what to do if some gets lost, Common sense at its best! Thanks Ronny 🍻
Fantastic episode - just goes to show even in a small group you can get split up. Great tracking 👍
Hey Ronny,
Enjoyed your honesty and showing how everything unfolded so others can learn from what occurred. A spot tracker for all vehicles would have taken the guess work out of where Don was. Have someone at home base (friend/family) able to check location via computer and relay location of lost vehicle to yourself via sat phone. Whenever travelling alone I have my Spot tracker on, carry a sat phone and have a PLB. Don was essentially travelling alone when he took the wrong turn. I look forward to your next video. :)
Nice work guys. Loved the methodical search.
You know what Ronny neh..I was once you fan, but now I can say am your aircon
hahahaha
Glad yous found Don.
Would have been pretty scary losing contact with someone in the convoy mate! Impressed with how calm you guys stayed. Great example of how that situation needed to be dealt with 👍
Great video and best sense of responsibility shown by the team, Ronny tracing the tracks was the best option.
Here arrives a requirement for a transponder like in aircraft or an anti T-CAS, that will beep up once the separation starts increasing between vehicles in the convey.
I’m glad everybody is OK maybe you should make a video about making an emergency plan thank you
Ora Banda Pub - The people there are awesome - we were there last Easter. My wife asked for a Brandy & Dry, "Sorry, no Brandy. We'll go to Kal and grab a bottle...". And that pub food wasn't a special cook-up for the cameras, did anyone see Amalia's Chicken Parmie? I had that 2 nights in a row - it's that big normally!!!
That chicken parmie was huge! Was really yummy :)
Great video Ronny, although probably for all the wrong reasons. I was surprised Don didn’t have his own paper maps, probably thought his mates did, therefore Don probably didn’t feel he required any. A lot to learned from this, very educational.
Excellent series Ronny. In the intro as your names appear and the trucks are climbing rock, its sounds like your all snapping CVs :D
Great episode guys, glad you found him, intense few hours
Hey mate thanks for posting all your videos very informative and was good to meet you at the Perth 4x4 show yesterday and showing me what's in project black cheers
Great stuff mate, really sound advice. Oh and by the way if I ever get lost I hope they hire you on as tracker. Well done.
Maybe everyone in the trip should know that nights/next destination and also confirm they can locate it on their map/nav gear. Sounds like the plan was to head due North with the lost person going West. If the destination was known I doubt he would have driven too far West? Easy to say after the event though.
Don taking off his hat the moment the food arrived... Yep hes from RSA
Great to see the intro music is back love that tune. Had you thought about using the drone to look for Don?
Wow - turned out OK. Lost partners - our rule is if you are lost or uncomfortable - stop, stay put and the lead guide backtracks (as Ronny did). Our hunting camp rule is if the person has missed two meals then we go looking! Just be prepared. And it is better to set up camp in daylight - way more enjoyable!
If you notify police at first task they can take it down as notice. No different to letting them know you are in the area. Then they are on alert with ambo's, towies etc as well. They can also comms with all radios on standby.
Who knows they may end up sending search out for Ronny, not Don who's safely ensconced at the pub, (with another hamburger and chips) and you're wasting your time for 24 hours.
If you do a vid on procedures, please get the outback cops on board first. Would be very interesting to hear recommended equipment levels, frequencies, antenna models, trail breadcrumbs, V-sheets, etc.
Mate that was epping most excided video got my heart pounding the chase and tracking! I know it's not funny but you should do this again. Glad you found him. Keep up the good content can't wait for the next episode!
Glad you found don
Trav loves mentioning the amount of U Turns 😜
Nice one guys Good to see you found your mate ok😎
Another Awesome video, I lived 4 houses down from where Hancock got his car blown up in lathlain that was a scary night we were all scared to start our cars the next day
Fantastic guys! So easy to get lost out there. Goes to show how important communication is! Maybe a good idea to invest in HF radios. Loving the series!
Jimbo Jones funnily enough I think he used to have hf when I started watching and dumped it for sat phone. Problem is everyone needs one.
@@Alan.livingston everyone would need a sat phone too. But at least hf radio doesn't have black spots like sat phones do. I know hf is more expensive but it bloody works.
Absolute bloody legend's.
Great episode Ronny 👌🏻
In the US, I use APRS as a mobile beaconing system. Garmin Spot or similar allowed in AUS? HAM radio a thing there? APRS on 5-watts is MUCH more likely to reach out than voice on 5-watts. Part of the issue is AUS kept bending to pressure and kept allowing more and more CB style radios on different freq bands than they likely have hashed up all of the useful short range ham bands, and possibly hosed up some useful HF bands.
Ok, after reading up on AUS's version of ham radio, you would need a Standard License, I see nothing about max power, but Foundation doesn't seem to allow APRS, Standard does allow any emission on certain bands as long as narrower than 16KHz. APRS is a great way to track. I can turn my APRS radio up to 50 watts no worries.
Great Like Always
Thanks for the great video again!
Eventually ther e will be V2V messaging. A postal service would allow carrying messages to oncoming or passing vehicles to form a "data highway" of postal vehicles.
Golden rule in 4WD: You are responsible for the person on the back of you, keep them at your sight if possible and if not then DEFINITELY wait for them at turns!
If Travis had followed this rule all the hassle wouldn't have been necessary! Definitely not Don's fault, anyways it can happen to anybody, just remember to mention this rule always before a trip since even experienced people seem to forget it sometimes.
Good everything went well!
Over landing awesome thanks
love you guys
Enjoyed the vid, I have an inreach explorer never out of touch best thing I did for Adventure Riding / Four wheel driving.
Ora banda hotel burnt down recently your a lucky man don other ppl havnt been so fortunate out in this bush
Ronny frigging awesome video m8 big thumbs up :)
haha mining prospectors maze, I've been there. go down a track and end up in someones shack that looks like something out of mad max.
Well it seems the tagalong rules went out the window. At an intersection wait for the following vehicle. Great video and even better outcome. That burger would have sustained Don for a month.
Haha very true
New subscribe to your channel and love your videos Ronny, thank you.
When going place you should share the location pinpoint with every truck ,can you do it with Hema?
We all had different sat nav systems
Ronny Dahl Most GPS’es i have had, have the option of enterring GPS coordinates as longtitude and lattitude. You could prepare a few waypoints for the whole trip and put them in your favorites list before leaving. But just waiting at every turn for the people behind you works as well i guess.
The explosion actually happened at the front of Don's house in Lathlain, I was living 3 streets away at the time, it was an earth shaking explosion...
Good one Ronnie.
Wow that's intense.
The whole story with billy and hancock would make a good aussie movie haha
Ronny Dahl - Bounty Hunter
I will now call you "Dahl, Texas Ranger". Would love to know how Don got lost. He would have copped a swift back hander upon finding him though if the reason for getting lost was due to carelessness. Other than that, glad you found him boys. You are like a Bloodhound sniffing those tyre tracks.
Sorry for being late to watch this episode been busy and to comment. A bit pedantic I know but the two fire bombings occurred while Don Hancock was still alive. I actually worked at the Ora Banda mine about 500 meters up the road in the 90's (before the Hancock's).
Awesome video as usual, but it's a bit scary that Don just kept driving after losing communication. 5 or 10k's is understandable while hoping to pick it up again, but he should of realised it's best to just stop.
He's not the sharpest tool in the shed.
At the time because of the fuel top up he did he was thinking we were ahead of him. I think it’s easy to judge without actually being there. Your mind can play tricks on you especially if you are tired too
@@Ronny_Dahl as you so rightly point out, being there can be quite a bit different to hindsight etc. The factors at play (in the 'being there' bit) often cause our mindset to have different priorities/points-of-reference to consider. What you guys did in that circumstance is imho a good example of dealing with something that could have turned quite nasty. Yes perhaps in hindsight you might have considered one or two other possible options (which may or may not have been available), but you guys did a great job, and the outcome was great. The whole event you have very effectively shared with us here. Just look at the level of discussion going on!.
This in itself is testimony of a job well done. Thanks Ronny and Team Exstream. :)
I am not one to critic your off-road planning. But seriously guys. You spend a fortune on those vehicles and then miss important safety equipment you need out there. Not that you were in really isolated country but you could have been. My whole vehicle and camper trailer wouldn’t even owe me ten grand but I spent $600 and $15 per month for a satsleve for my iPhone and carry a PLB. Your situation wouldn’t warrant setting of your PLB but a sat sleve or sat phone would have saved you the amount of fuel you’ve all wasted.
Great video as usual. Definitely brings home the vastness of the interior and how things can go wrong very quickly.
I have a sat phone but the other two vehicles did not. My second sat phone was with Wayne so I did not have it on this trip.
Sat phones scare a lot of people as they think its expensive BUT they are really cheap when you consider how good they can be when things go wrong. In our case only I had one...
Ronny Dahl If you had have been Don you would have been ok then. I do like the iPhone sleeve because you can send texts.
Isn't is wise to keep a person that doesn't know the area in the middle of the convoy? I would think the persons who are familiar with the area should drive front and back, that way nobody can fall behind or out of convoy that are not familiar with the route...
Maybe it's also a good idea to do spot checks over the radios every so often specially when it's dark just to check if everybody are still accounted for.
Glad everything worked out at the end!!
Billy was sitting around the camp fire with a few other boys and was shot, the pub was fire bombed first before Hancock was blown up then again after he was blown up.
Hi Ronny, well done!
Can you in the future explain iPhone sleeve.
Your GPS: is it showing real map or symbolic like in street cars? I was a few years ago in Aussie and solved the late return hour from outback test drive with notebook, nodisplay gps and on-line Oziexplorer (to get the right direction).
Hallo from EU!
hats off inside
Have the powers to be/the clever people set up a set of rules/policy as to what to do if you get lost?
Thanks Ronny, curious if anyone had a satellite phone, I know you mentioned carrying one in the past? Have a great day!
I had one Don did not however
@@Ronny_Dahl Ok, thanks for the reply. Keep up the great work!👍
Wake up call for every viewers. This could happen to anyone.
It's a real shame that the place burned down, hopefully it was rebuilt.
Correction please Ronnie. Wa police will definitely search for someone who is missing for less than 24hrs. A lot can happen in that time frame.
@Ronny Dahl, bit disappointed regarding the comment about 24 hour hours being lost before contacting the police. You can and should contact them as soon as you are ''lost'' They are not going to send a search team of 100 choppers but many eyes make for light work. 24 hours of being lost is an American term and are not used in Australia especially when in a rural/remote setting. Whilst I am a random dude on youtube commenting please contact your local police station to discuss the time frame to when you need to contact them.
Mate I thought about all that and Don knows to stay with the vehicle and knows how to take care of himself. If it was someone else it may have been a different story or decision. I was tracking him as well so we were on the hunt for him.
I made that call and I would have taken on the responsibility of the out come.
In the end if they wouldn’t find him, Don could ask someone passing by to tow him to the next fuel stop. I assume he has a snatchstrap in his truck (that’s 4WD’ing tool number 1 i guess).
YES 100% correct Josh, police and SES and everyone will start as soon as you report them missing. DO NOT WAITING 24HRS IN AUSTRALIA
@@Ronny_Dahl Hey mate, I was only talking about the comment ''it is not the 24-hour mark yet, and they don't do anything before 24 hours''. I understand Don seem pretty well set up and independent. It is more the fact you are feeding your audience information that could be misleading in a time of crisis and this seems to be a common misconception in Australia. The fact is once a person in a remote/rural area has been misplaced it is a catch-up game and people take increased risks. By calling the local cop shop they may know a person who drives the road every day and just asks them to keep an eye out and that is all the actions they take, you are sharing the responsibility as an effective leader. I love your content and don't be meaning to be chucking shade at you for one comment.
I suspect you are pretty well trained but that comment shows that a refresher HLTAID005 course could help.
@@Ronny_Dahl yes that's it Ronny ,, some else who do this for the first time is a total differend story
Just a question to look for lost Don..... why didn't you launch the drone as high as you could at night and try to survey the birds eye view for any lights in the distance...???
By the time we knew it was too later and very hard to see anything on a small I pad screen.
That's a good idea. Will put that in the memory bank to use of it ever happens to myself.
I don’t think it’s possible if you have been driving for more than 30 minutes after getting lost. If you see an airplane far away in the sky, that’s approximately 40km distance (i checked with Flightradar24 once). If you drive 100kph for a while, the dot of light you see via your drone will be even smaller than what a far away airplane looks like. And maybe you get a false positive if there is other traffic nearby.
Is Don, is lost. 😂
I watched the section where Don was found twice in case I missed something and I am still confused about how anyone could head in the wrong direction for so long. Surely he has at least a smartphone on board with a basic mapping system on it. Even the cheapest phones I have owned have built in GPS that shows where you are regardless of actual carrier signal. Even if they don't show tracks, you can still see where you are in the general scheme of things. Don didn't even seem to be aware of the correct name of the planned destination for the night, so that is a real worry. A written itinerary in each vehicle might go a long way to prevent something similar happening in future.
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Luckily you're switched on ron otherwise it could of been worse, but isn't the first rule of being lost stay where you are?
He didn’t know he was lost until it was too late. After the event we have spoken a lot about this and learnt from each other different ways people think. I think a video on this topic would be the goer.
Yeah it would be a good one.
I've travelled that area extensively and I can tell you that Don was only a few Kilometres from a McDonald's.......🍔🍔🍔🍔
Hahaha might want to add a few zeros to the back of the those few kms
You are up early👍🙂
Maybe late depending how the night went haha
Bloody good reason to have a sat phone
Hectic!!
Great you found your missing mate but where is part 4/5 and 5/5 ? Its not showing up ,..... :(
Great video! Did you have your drone with you ? A high altitude drone video may have helped at some point,
I’ve tried this before to see if I could spot someone in the dark. You will be surprised how little you can actually see unless head lights are facing you. Tail lights are almost impossible to see that far away.
Also we worked out he went that way already and we didn’t have the file to chase him so either way it would have made no difference
Ronny Dahl really wow that’s crazy. Anyways I’m glad it worked out and everyone was ok . I really love all your content the night time lapse shots are amazing. Keep it up man .
Awesome video! I notice he is now in the middle. Maybe a GPS tracker for the South African! Was going to say send him to Australia for punishment, but he is already there. Only a few will get that. LOL
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So, is Don not running a GPS system? Going that far off track seems hard to do with a GPS system.
Two questions first:
Are all the vehicles equipped with multiple navigation methods? i.e. GPS with backup and paper maps with compass.
Do all of the vehicles use the same fuel type?
So I paused at the 'OMFG, Don has been gone for an hour and this is where we think he went' point.
Not knowing where the fuel points are on the map, my thought revolves around your jerry cans.
Do you have enough cans to send _one truck_ after Don - even if you have to siphon diesel from the other trucks?
If yes, then proceed.
Does one truck have the fuel to proceed to Lake Ballard and return to a fuel point? If yes, that truck goes and stays, hoping to make contact with Don.
Again, of yes then proceed.
Do the rest of the trucks have enough fuel to return to a fuel point?
If yes, they proceed to the fuel point, top up, and wait. Secure extra jerries if possible. Secure satellite phones and distribute to the remaining trucks.
If we've made it this far, the truck with jerries heads out on the route that you believe Don followed. That truck will stop just before the point of no return.
Another truck will wait at the point of last contact. If you don't have that many trucks, then one follows Don, the other is at the last point of contact.
If there is no sign of Don in 24 hours, find a way of hauling bulk fuel - even if it's the water tanks on the trailer - and head up the track you thing Don took and remain in contact.
Find him, and bring him home.
This is likely over complicated, but that's me.
EDIT.
Ronnie. You know what you're doing. We _all_ know that. But I'm floored that Don didn't have a paper map.
I took my little brother up into the wilds of the Idaho Panhandle on a hunting trip earlier this year. Silly me, I assumed that he had the gear he needed -should something go wrong- (it turns out that he didn't even have a lot of the basic gear that he'd need on a day-to-day basis. He just assumed I'd have it). He absolutely didn't. He's a big guy and he's out of shape. He tapped out 1/2 mile into a hike where we were hoping to find elk.
The next day, I walked a heavily forested ridge trail hoping to come across elk and ended up in a situation where I was using a trail with bear sign only minutes old and more than two miles to go. While I luckily didn't cross paths with the bear, less than a mile later I found similarly recent signs of mountain lion and I had misjudged how much daylight I had left. Needless to say, it was a very tense hike.
When I got to the bottom my brother and I had a serious talk about preparedness. He had absolutely no means of navigation and only a faint idea of how to get out to civilization. Even at that point, knowing there was no cell service in the closest town, it hadn't occurred to him to stop and borrow a land line in case of emergency.
We both learned a lot from that trip. I quit assuming that others were properly prepared, and we now actively discuss emergency procedures before every trip. This includes communications, navigation, first aid, and emergency situations.
If i had encountered the bear or the mountain lion, I would have probably been mauled at the very least. I was armed and had bear spray, but who knows. If the worst had happened, there was no way my little brother could have hiked up to me. The trail alone would have probably killed him. But could he have gotten out and called for help? I hesitate to say yes. If he _had_ gotten out, could he have found his way back to the trailhead? I doubt it. If I had encountered a bear or mountain lion on that trail there's a very real possibility I would have died relying on him.
Be prepared. _For everything_
How’s the ham radio infrastructure in Australia? Any large Repeater systems in place?
Australia uses UHF and some people carry HF during remote travel.
CB radio, AM and upper/lower side band is very rare.
Repeater towers for UHF are used a fair bit but you need to know the area channel and probably not so much out there.
Darren Gandy Ah gotcha. We use the 2m band 144hz~ VHF and UHF 70cm 420hz~ quite a bit for off road travel in the United States. Usually use a 50watt mobile unit in the vehicle. There are a good number of large repeater systems but I know Australia has a large number of remote places! Especially considering the population vs size of the country.
Legally in Australia, 5 watt uhf is the maximum you can have in the car
@@Intentsrig If only Australia was that forward thinking. You can only have a 5 watt radio unless you have a commercial licence and then you can have 25 watts, but that costs serious money. HF radios use to be popular but you also need a licence (getting the idea Australian Government like ripping its people off) to get the most out of it, like bouncing off beacons or direct to Royal Flying Doctor. This day and age sat phone or sat message services are the best bet for remote travel.
Dougie P You need a license in the US as well but it only cost $10-15! And a 35 question exam you must pass. Yeah sat phones are definitely a useful tool. That Is something I do not have.
Billy was shot by a high powered rifle. Billy then died. 😂😂😂😂
1st trip with a patrol and first trip where you lost someone.......strange coincidence!!!
What have you changed so not to lose someone ? Closer convoy ?
Stuck to our marking the turns. In other words wait for the person behind to see you before you turn off the track
Looks like Don owes a few beers after the search effort! Some valuable advice about not panicking and how to approach a situation like that.
Good advertisment for carrying something like a spot or inreach tracker.
Sat phone would have been ideal which we did carry but we didn’t all have one
@@Ronny_Dahl agreed, just mentioned those two, as I've found that the subscriptions cost a little less with the Garmin, and it can still do two way text messaging, so it's more likely every car could afford to carry one
Inreach tracker, I’ll have to look that one up