I grew up in that neck of the woods, there was a Ponderosa Ranch tourist spot up the road. Beautiful country I totally miss it, I live in Missouri now, only because it's cheaper and my SSI buys more.
I can't help but wonder if subconsciously, when Ricardo Montalban was rewatching "Space Seed" to prepare for "Wrath Of Khan" his mind remembered doing this episode with Madlyn Rhue as well and channeling that to bring out the rage of Khan over his wife's death in the final film.
Ricardo was born in 1920. Bonanza premiered in 1959. It's second season in 1960, which would put his age here either 39 or 40. He looks much younger than that here at 2:10 .
Definition of reckoning : the act of calculating the amount of something. : the time when your actions are judged as good or bad and you are rewarded or punished. : the act of judging something.
I didn't know till today that this episode mates Ricardo and Madlyn in this episode. They also play mates Khan and Marla in Star Trek "Space Seed." Here again, Marla's later death sets up one of the most famous Star Trek TOS movies, The Wrath of Khan, where Khan seeks to kill Captain Kirk for marooning them on a deserted planet and Marla dying.
Ahhh! Ricardo Montalban! When he did this show, he was already a very successful and accomplished actor in film and TV, and on Broadway. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricardo_Montalb%C3%A1n
Ricardo Montalban tells a story about when he was doing this episode , Three of the cast members, which he didn't name "pranked" him by each of them speaking in a different language. He told them that he did not think it was funny and he was offended. They apologized to him.
What's with this "Ricardo Montalban and Madlyn Rhue" thing ? They were together in THIS, then in STAR TREK. Did they have a "thing" in real life or something ?
6:50 that scene... i know what they were tryna do but what was the point of mentioning they were here first if throughout the episode you are still portraying them as savages.
The Mexican who failed as Indian, and a White man? And then the White men dressed as Indian's dancing around the fire? Marlon Brando was RIGHT 🤫😭🤔 Where's the NATIVE AMERICAN INDIAN'S🧐🇬🇧😭🌎🗣️🌍🆘👍🙏😍💯LOVE FROM LONDON 🇬🇧
He is literally one generation from being a European. Most Mexicans also are part European, so if you want to say failed as an Anglo, fine, but not white
I’ve read the comments so now I know that his beautiful wife is going to get killed. I watched Broken Arrow starring Jimmy Stewart and his Indian wife got killed. It was so heartbreaking 💔 so I’m not going to finish watching this one. 🍿🍿🍿😱😱😱💔💔💔
Pike: "... and because they're dirty and they stink!" Now look who's talking! Ben Cartwright and sons are decent men. If more men had been like the Cartwrights, there would probably not have been so many Indian wars. BTW:Wrong theme tune.
Porque perder su cultura y su identidad ,solo tienen que tener el conocimiento los pueblos originarios lo tenían lo han ocultado tan bien que ellos mismo ta no recuerdan donde lo escondieron, todo por el reseteo constante al que sufrimos en un momento lo vamos a descubrir yo tengo fe de que así será!!!!
Good morning ladies and gentlemen the moral of the story is this to me believing God and you have the highest appreciation ever if you know what I'm coming from
When tribes were beginning to be scattered by army and settlers, many escaped into Mexican communities and even took Spanish names. His accent is not at all out of line.
Yes, even a small but properly tended campfire will burn that skull down to a powdery ash. The key is keeping it in the flames, not buried under the ash and embers. Those saying it needs a better hotter fire are talkin shit. A campfire properly tended will easily burn steak bones, big heavy Elk & Moose bones... put it like this: if a big heavy elk bone burns to powder then a little thin human bone will burn just as well and they'll burn without a great big wasteful fire. A great way to get rid of evidence if that's the goal, hey we alll got our crazier responsibilities to 'deal with' from time to time haha!!
My friend harry harbord morant had only gone to fetch water for his horse (which he found to be poisoned with mercury and dead animals) from that church when he unjustifiably fired upon by two children with a .310 martini-enfield who was hiding beneath a blanket in mule drawn wagon, harry had been working all day for the van deburgs build a sheep fence
They tried to be sensitive toward Native Americans but still have a long way to go. For example, it was implied that if the NA wife had not read the bible her husband would have just left the dude there to die. Also, the one guy tries to be sensitive to the NA and their plight, but then throws the skull into the fire. I am only 10 minutes in to this show.
@@epaddon Not really. I am a scientist and an atheist. I require evidence for my beliefs, so if you want me to believe something just give me evidence.
@@dolam the evidence comes out of your nostrils every day you wake up to recieve life! Just think it could be snatched right out your body at this very moment. And you darn sure didn't come from no fish a billion years ago..or just popped up from no where! you was created by a creator! What else proof you need..a sign? Perhaps something you can touch or see! Have you ever been outer space Even? No! But you know its there right! Even science doesn't belong to itself my friend..behold the title of this episode! It belongs to you and millions of other's whos faith is in "science". smh to each his own...
@@dolam in my country not long time ago, some Indians tribe burued twins alive because they think is evil , it's just one of the exemple, change those belives to another is the only way. I was expecting a scientist to know that.
@@bluebird2604 The you for that example. I am an anthropologist and know that many cultures have customs that are maladaptive. For example, the history of one culture includes (1) committing genocide against an entire nation of people - except the virgins, (2) advocating slavery, (3) punishing male rapist by making the rapist compensate the father of the victim 30 shekels and then having the rapist marry his victim, (4) viewing women and children as property, (5) advocating the sacrificing of a child to win a war, (6) mutilating the genitalia of male children, (7) sending priests to the battlefield to bless the soldiers, (8) condemning homosexuals to death, (9) condemning atheists and those of other religions to death, (10) accusing innocent people of being witches and torturing them to death, (11) covering up the sexual abuse of children, and (12) castrating young boys so they can sing better as adults. Please Read Matthew 7:5.
This episode always gave me a bad vibe, something about the way they try to change Matsu and Atoya to be more like them. The stipulation for staying in their home was that they had to become more like the white man, tear down the teepee and build a cabin, cut his hair and change their clothes, it always just gave me an icky feeling. Like there was something inherently wrong with living or acting like an Indian. And the fact that it's the main characters making them do this, the characters we're supposed to like and root for, it just gives me a nasty feeling
Seems you are pretending to care about Indians, i think you don't know any. Indians are people , human , they think, mostly of them like technology and nice cars too. There are countries in latin America with marjority of population from indian decendents living as any people keeping they linguage in tradition nothing wrong with that. Segregated from world and used them for ideological reasons is wrong.
I totally understand and they addressed that to a certain degree. But it’s also showing that racism has many levels. From open arms w/o judgement like Ben, to “you should assimilate” from society at large, and the overt hatefulness of the neighbor.
I see your point, but I don't fully agree with it. They were outcasts from their tribes and had no where to turn. Ben offered them somewhere to belong, which is something they didn't have. He couldn't offer them a home like they were used to, because it wasn't something he knew or had the ability to do. I really don't think racism motivated him in the slightest. He wanted to give them a future the only way he knew how. It didn't work, and perhaps it was naive, and yes, by modern standards seems wrong. But this was a different time, and I think Ben was motivated by love, not racism, which is motivated by hatred.
"You know about Rawhide?"
Ben: "That's a different show. This is Bonanza."
Hahha
Man that guy who played that bigot who killed that poor woman was truly hateful.
Terrible her and his child
I grew up in that neck of the woods, there was a Ponderosa Ranch tourist spot up the road. Beautiful country I totally miss it, I live in Missouri now, only because it's cheaper and my SSI buys more.
@Gayle Brown SSI is NOT welfare I paid into it for 50 years.
There's been ponderosa and Bonanza restaurants
One of my favorite episodes!
The stunt guy had blue hair!!!
30:57 should be an iconic run
I can't help but wonder if subconsciously, when Ricardo Montalban was rewatching "Space Seed" to prepare for "Wrath Of Khan" his mind remembered doing this episode with Madlyn Rhue as well and channeling that to bring out the rage of Khan over his wife's death in the final film.
Love, Hate, War, Truth, Lack of understanding. Understanding. Strangers & friends. Change & the old ways. A good Bonanza to watch
Ricardo was born in 1920. Bonanza premiered in 1959. It's second season in 1960, which would put his age here either 39 or 40. He looks much younger than that here at 2:10 .
I've never seen this episode before, to bad that Madlyn Rhue wasn't headline in the movies beginning credits.
Definition of reckoning : the act of calculating the amount of something. : the time when your actions are judged as good or bad and you are rewarded or punished. : the act of judging something.
I reckon😆 you are right.
I didn't know till today that this episode mates Ricardo and Madlyn in this episode. They also play mates Khan and Marla in Star Trek "Space Seed." Here again, Marla's later death sets up one of the most famous Star Trek TOS movies, The Wrath of Khan, where Khan seeks to kill Captain Kirk for marooning them on a deserted planet and Marla dying.
Thanks for uploading this episode.
I like this show because of all the new, up and coming actors that we now take for granted.
Is that Lars Hanson?😂
Incredible Cast and Crew of Bonanza!😎
I love the gas fire in the teepee. Did anyone else notice?
Vengeance is mine so sayegh The Lord God Almighty... when we take vengeance into our own hands it destroys us all ... peace
O Adam é maravilhoso, respeita os índios e os ajudam.💚💖💚💖💚💖.
The man killed the Indian woman in cold blood and he was not arrested for murder.
He should of been brought to justice by Roy coffee
Well he died in the Cartwrights’ home, remember?
Its racism
Ahhh! Ricardo Montalban! When he did this show, he was already a very successful and accomplished actor in film and TV, and on Broadway. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricardo_Montalb%C3%A1n
I'm upset his pregnant wife had to die... can I get another episode that makes me laugh? Like when Ben Cartwright got Shanghaied...
Or the episode when a bull ran amuck in Virginia city the matador
Kkkkhhhhaaaannnnnn!
Ricardo Montalban tells a story about when he was doing this episode , Three of the cast members, which he didn't name "pranked" him by each of them speaking in a different language. He told them that he did not think it was funny and he was offended. They apologized to him.
What is wrong is why change them to be like them they can live on land there way and be friend with us
Chief Winnemucka? And Khan Singh? LOL.
A Great episode, i love Karl Swenson,s performance, Anthony Caruso and Ricardo Montalban (The naked gun, Fantasy Island)
*ATOYA A SHOSHONE TRIBAL LADY AND MATSU, A BANNOCK TRIBE YOUNGEST CHIEF´s SON. **16:00*
What's with this "Ricardo Montalban and Madlyn Rhue" thing ? They were together in THIS, then in STAR TREK. Did they have a "thing" in real life or something ?
Ricardo Montalbán was happily married to actress and model Georgiana Young for 63.years.
Ike reminds me of Archie Bunker.
6:50 that scene... i know what they were tryna do but what was the point of mentioning they were here first if throughout the episode you are still portraying them as savages.
But they WERE savage.
The Mexican who failed as Indian, and a White man?
And then the White men dressed as Indian's dancing around the fire? Marlon Brando was RIGHT 🤫😭🤔
Where's the NATIVE AMERICAN INDIAN'S🧐🇬🇧😭🌎🗣️🌍🆘👍🙏😍💯LOVE FROM LONDON 🇬🇧
He is literally one generation from being a European. Most Mexicans also are part European, so if you want to say failed as an Anglo, fine, but not white
Ben looked good with his shirt open😍
wait... is this the exorcist or bonanza? 45:16 "THE POWER OF HOLLYWOOD COMPELS YOU!" 😊
Where's Tattoo? De horse, de horse!
Always Free on RUclips
Is that the guy from fantasy island?
Yes Ricardo Montalbon aka Mr Roark.
yeah
Saharan Paula Yes & remember he was a big MGM movie star long before Bonanza & Star Trek
Yep! That is Mr. Roarke!
Good to know Bonaza had n has Christian virtues in some ways
Is this one of Khan's adventures on Ceti Alpha V?
Who knows?
How is the show have such A great picture?I dont understand
🤨Hmph Tm Mullins ... i dunno?🤷♀️ Just sit back and enjoy it i guess! 🙆🏼♀️😉🤟🏼💋
8:54
I’ve read the comments so now I know that his beautiful wife is going to get killed. I watched Broken Arrow starring Jimmy Stewart and his Indian wife got killed. It was so heartbreaking 💔 so I’m not going to finish watching this one. 🍿🍿🍿😱😱😱💔💔💔
Spoiler alert...........
I was really enjoying this feel good episode and then NO WAY! SO, SO SAD!
*CHIPSTHEDOG1, WHAT IS A SPOILER ALERT?¿*
ARQUITECTOSTAR it’s a warning ⚠️ that you’re gonna hear what happens in the episode.
Why does this channel or videos have phony title music on the series? This is not the traditional Bonanza theme.
Pike: "... and because they're dirty and they stink!" Now look who's talking!
Ben Cartwright and sons are decent men. If more men had been like the Cartwrights, there would probably not have been so many Indian wars.
BTW:Wrong theme tune.
Ike should of talked!! Anyone looked un washed u showered it was him
He tasks me.....
Is that Lars Hanson?
Who's the Savage?
Porque perder su cultura y su identidad ,solo tienen que tener el conocimiento los pueblos originarios lo tenían lo han ocultado tan bien que ellos mismo ta no recuerdan donde lo escondieron, todo por el reseteo constante al que sufrimos en un momento lo vamos a descubrir yo tengo fe de que así será!!!!
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Good morning ladies and gentlemen the moral of the story is this to me believing God and you have the highest appreciation ever if you know what I'm coming from
Being a Christian. I did cry every time they pray to God. Do unto others as you want them to do unto you.
🙆🏼♀️ While i *really do* *love* 💕 Ricardo Montalba’n, it’s pretty difficult to accept _that accent_ as “Native American” ya know?🤷♀️
😉🤟🏼💋
Ricardo Montaban in pigtails! hysterical. Glad no Indians were harmed in this episode.
When tribes were beginning to be scattered by army and settlers, many escaped into Mexican communities and even took Spanish names. His accent is not at all out of line.
cultural appropriation lol
Mexicano is Native American, "Indian." There are Native Americans("Indians" , Indios) in Mexico, Central and South America.
@@edoedo8686Mexicano is anyone from Mexico. We are also of European descent beside Native.
But he doesn't respect dagit fealings
Ben looks Indian 😄
Chaim Indian.
Why no Hop-Sing ???
Hi
🙋🏼♀️Hello Gene chapman how are you? 😬🤟🏼💋
*WHY 7 THUMBS DOWN?¿ I GAVE THIS MY THUMBS UP NO. 47. HARALD.*
There's several different Bonanza theme songs in my DVD collection
Knon😄Wherez JT Kirk@
*8:10** DOES A SKULL BURN?¿*
ARQUITECTOSTAR yep, but with a lot hotter fire than that. Cremation, remember?
*NICKIE MCNICHOLS, WHAT IS THIS FAKE SKULL MADE OF?¿*
ARQUITECTOSTAR i think its plastic by the way this is series they can make what they want
Yes, even a small but properly tended campfire will burn that skull down to a powdery ash. The key is keeping it in the flames, not buried under the ash and embers. Those saying it needs a better hotter fire are talkin shit. A campfire properly tended will easily burn steak bones, big heavy Elk & Moose bones... put it like this: if a big heavy elk bone burns to powder then a little thin human bone will burn just as well and they'll burn without a great big wasteful fire. A great way to get rid of evidence if that's the goal, hey we alll got our crazier responsibilities to 'deal with' from time to time haha!!
My friend harry harbord morant had only gone to fetch water for his horse (which he found to be poisoned with mercury and dead animals) from that church when he unjustifiably fired upon by two children with a .310 martini-enfield who was hiding beneath a blanket in mule drawn wagon, harry had been working all day for the van deburgs build a sheep fence
*IKE TAGGERT DOES NOT LIKE INJUNS!*
He Was A Bloomin' Idiot
*BOB JOHNSON, WHO WAS IKE TAGGERT?¿ GIVE ME A TIME STAMP PLEASE?¿*
ARQUITECTOSTAR 22:23
ARQUITECTOSTAR
I despise him.
Ike Taggart was Archie Bunker's great- grandfather.
*WRONG THEME SONG FOR BONANZA..!!*
Yes it is but due to copyright law it has to be changed :( even on the series CD packs sold in stores I'm afraid
If ever a great Bonanza theme score listen to Al caiolas version
They tried to be sensitive toward Native Americans but still have a long way to go. For example, it was implied that if the NA wife had not read the bible her husband would have just left the dude there to die. Also, the one guy tries to be sensitive to the NA and their plight, but then throws the skull into the fire. I am only 10 minutes in to this show.
You've got a longer way to go yourself if you have a problem with someone reading the Bible.
@@epaddon Not really. I am a scientist and an atheist. I require evidence for my beliefs, so if you want me to believe something just give me evidence.
@@dolam the evidence comes out of your nostrils every day you wake up to recieve life! Just think it could be snatched right out your body at this very moment. And you darn sure didn't come from no fish a billion years ago..or just popped up from no where! you was created by a creator! What else proof you need..a sign? Perhaps something you can touch or see! Have you ever been outer space Even? No! But you know its there right! Even science doesn't belong to itself my friend..behold the title of this episode! It belongs to you and millions of other's whos faith is in "science". smh to each his own...
@@dolam in my country not long time ago, some Indians tribe burued twins alive because they think is evil , it's just one of the exemple, change those belives to another is the only way. I was expecting a scientist to know that.
@@bluebird2604 The you for that example. I am an anthropologist and know that many cultures have customs that are maladaptive. For example, the history of one culture includes (1) committing genocide against an entire nation of people - except the virgins, (2) advocating slavery, (3) punishing male rapist by making the rapist compensate the father of the victim 30 shekels and then having the rapist marry his victim, (4) viewing women and children as property, (5) advocating the sacrificing of a child to win a war, (6) mutilating the genitalia of male children, (7) sending priests to the battlefield to bless the soldiers, (8) condemning homosexuals to death, (9) condemning atheists and those of other religions to death, (10) accusing innocent people of being witches and torturing them to death, (11) covering up the sexual abuse of children, and (12) castrating young boys so they can sing better as adults. Please Read Matthew 7:5.
This episode always gave me a bad vibe, something about the way they try to change Matsu and Atoya to be more like them. The stipulation for staying in their home was that they had to become more like the white man, tear down the teepee and build a cabin, cut his hair and change their clothes, it always just gave me an icky feeling. Like there was something inherently wrong with living or acting like an Indian. And the fact that it's the main characters making them do this, the characters we're supposed to like and root for, it just gives me a nasty feeling
Seems you are pretending to care about Indians, i think you don't know any. Indians are people , human , they think, mostly of them like technology and nice cars too. There are countries in latin America with marjority of population from indian decendents living as any people keeping they linguage in tradition nothing wrong with that. Segregated from world and used them for ideological reasons is wrong.
Yeah, me too. I commented on it also and it angered some people.
I totally understand and they addressed that to a certain degree. But it’s also showing that racism has many levels. From open arms w/o judgement like Ben, to “you should assimilate” from society at large, and the overt hatefulness of the neighbor.
I see your point, but I don't fully agree with it. They were outcasts from their tribes and had no where to turn. Ben offered them somewhere to belong, which is something they didn't have. He couldn't offer them a home like they were used to, because it wasn't something he knew or had the ability to do. I really don't think racism motivated him in the slightest. He wanted to give them a future the only way he knew how. It didn't work, and perhaps it was naive, and yes, by modern standards seems wrong. But this was a different time, and I think Ben was motivated by love, not racism, which is motivated by hatred.
*25:25** NEIGHBORS HELPING NEIGHBORS, BUT DID BEN DEED OVER THE LAND TO ATOYA AND MATSU?¿*
@9:12 Fucking bible nearly killed Ben.
That comment is totally unnecessary!
sh*t ep