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Video Summary: * The speaker questions why the interviewee supports framing politics as a left vs right narrative, arguing that Jewish capital is behind both sides in the US. * The interviewee acknowledges this framing as a problem but still thinks it's relevant. The speaker says this will result in a "dirty J" as punishment. * The speaker argues that looking at world capital structures shows other groups surpass Jews in average wealth, using Cuban immigrants in the US as an example. * The speaker says criticizing Israel is fine but blaming Jews obscures the real antagonism of the political system, where the problem is rich vs poor rather than Jews having money. * They ask who really corrupted the Democratic party and invented political correctness to prevent popular mobilization.
Yeah, but put that way someone could call Zizek "class reductionist"; it´s not that the "real" problem is the opposition rich vs. poor, it´s just that there are power structures -encouraged by capitalism, that go beyond the wealth and interests of particular groups of people. Therefore, blaming one ethnicity is obscuring the forest for one tree. It´s a great answer really.
He already decided what he wanted out of the exchange, he was purely there for a shallow, shitty "gotcha" and Zizek saw that immediately, didn't feed into it and that's why the guy objected before Zizek even finished his first point. These people are some smarmy bastards to try that on a well equipped and witty intellectual.
Nice deflection by Zizek. The Cubans in America don't have a lobby like AIPAC that dictates the political discourse of the American Congress and Senate.
I know you're joking, but the Swiss national broadcasting company SRF has several high-quality, quite recent interviews with him on youtube in German and English.
haha I find all the noise endearing. But yeah, if you show some random person a clip of him and say that he is a famous public speaker, they will think that you must be a lunatic.
or simply use a lav mic, because brilliant as he is, he has terrible microphone technique. He doesn't move the mic when he turns his head to speak, making it impossible to hear.
I'm a Palestinian and i find that guy's comment us so disrespectful to Zizek and his philosophy, complete misunderstanding of what he was trying to say during the whole thing.
@@nickmullen9510LOL most palestinians would simply like to live in peace with their families, just like most israelis. It’s always a minority of dumbasses that destroy the life of the peaceful majority.
Yeah I don't think anyone is gonna change that guy's mind, but I like the question of "what is your alternative narrative" This guy's alternative narrative, if he had to ask himself, would reflect an embarrassingly stupid worldview
@@meepinsthey can just look up publicly available information which is overwhelmingly in favor of what this guy was saying, but then they say "well that doesn't mean/prove anything". the stockholm syndrome is too strong with them 😂
You can tell Zizek is utterly perplexed at the bigotry nature of the question, which borders on (19th century) antisemitism. I mean, how do you even begin to explain that there is in fact no international Jewish conspiracy pulling the world's purse strings. It seems like Zizek doesn't know if to answer the question itself, which explicitly questions why he is supporting "the Jews", or to answer a question regarding his--not really support--but mere acknowledgement of the pain and injustice that was and has been inflicted upon ISRAEL.
People who are uncomfortable with the positions Zizek is questioning with the Palestine/Israel conflict saying he is just a puppet, he doesn't commit to the cause, he just corrupt and so on, are the type of people who need to hear him. Don't you see what he is doing? He knows he has an international audience that will push back on being critical about the conflict, he is not just giving another annoying joke here. Now more than ever people like him are needed at their best.
For those who say Zizek should have just raged at this guy and cancelled him as an anti-semite. If he did that, he would firstly be going against his own arguments against political correctness and his criticisms of the hypocrisy behind calls for Equality, Diverty and Inclusion. Secondly, by handling it this way instead of getting triggered, Zizek demolished the guys argument and made him look dumb to all who are capable of reason. He was never going to convince the guy asking the question, but he made that guy a minority by demonstrating it was incorrect. Thus dealing with the problem.
If the left would do what Zizek does instead of following the Cult of Political Correctness we wouldnt have a right wing uprising. As Zizek said, Trump's best allies were the leftist liberals that hated him. Sadly Trump didnt achieved his historical role, no one learned nothing. Its still Zizek vs the whole world.
i was there, the worst part was, that the antisemit left directly after his second question leaving poor zizek here speaking to the void for half the time lol
@@_sayan_roy_ it is the 'reading' one day later, after his speech in israel/palestine in Frankfurt, yes. Sadly there was not much reading, but only discussion about his comment one day earlier.
@@opinion3742at the beginning of the convention he made himself pretty clear. Hamas and Israel are condemnable and the Palestinians deserve better than this dichotomy
@@soulsmouls ok then can you provide evidence to the contrary? I’m open to either being true but “average wealth by demographic” isn’t easy search to sift through
@@soulsmouls you’re right that no single source contains both income-by-religion and income-by-ethnicity. pewresearch identifies 44% of Jewish Americans as 6-figure earners, likely placing their median around $80k-90k. In a separate article, they state that the median income of Cuban-americans is $38k. I understand the difference of median and average, and that Zizek spoke of averages. Unless there are some insane outliers, I do not see how the averages can disagree with the medians considering the difference
Antisemitism has no place in our society. I am extremely critical of Israel - current Israeli government is committing war crimes and must be held legally accountable. But do not mix this with antisemitism. Jews have been the most persecuted people in human history and the whole humanity, in my opinion, should be apologetic to Jews. Hence, I do not appreciate the question from the audience! NEVER we can allow to dehumanize an ethnic, religious or any other group (that is what happened to Jews through the history, and to some extent Israeli government is doing that to Palestinians now).
Most jews think in terms of group evolutionary strategy(read kevin macdonad) and they have a very high ethnic/cultural awareness. This has allowed them to ethnically network and make themselves very good capitalists/academics in the modern economy. They also have a disproportionate share of hedge fund board seats/ banking leadership positions and media ownership. When you mix this together, how can you not see that this “religion”, which is really an ethnic group, is preventing the proper critique and socializing of national and international economic life ? Its frustrating to manage the nuances but it doesnt mean you hate jews, just what they are doing at our expense. And of course this isnt all Jews but most who are apart of this group evolutionary strategy
@josefk1491 I mean, they have basically been driven from their initial homeland through several waves of invading powers, spread across the entire globe, hated and banned so many places and then endured an eradication attempt, while blaming them of all sort of weird society problems, in the middle of Europe where 6 million of them got killed. When they reclaimed their homeland (by civil war which set the framework for todays situation), almost every other country around decided to attack them, forward to today and we have people still making remarks that sounds awful alot like something the nazis used to say. You know, about the whole "jews controling the world" ordeal. I don't know any other group of people that have endured this much shit over litterally thousands of years.
@@connor1414 You know which ethnicity has the most disproportionate seats on banking, corporate or hedge fund seats? Anglo-Saxons. And even more specifically then Anglo Saxons, Aristocrats. And yet there are no conspiracy theories discussing how British aristocrats are a global cabal controlling world events.
i like the guy's critical thinking and his takes generally too, but I fail to see the point he wanted to make; may you please elaborate on this "piercing truth" you gathered from his insights? (besides the objection saying that we shouldn't blame the jews rather the social/political system, which I agree about btw)
@@Branahtdit's hopeless. these people worship Zizek and think that whatever incoherent words he spits are gospel. We live in the age of personality cults and even our rising critical and free thinkers need a daddy. It's funny that Zizek himself beautifully talks about the Master dialectic. But i doubt they've read anything for him. They just want someone who supports their spineless take on a brutal occupation because it safeguards their interests.
People speaking aloud about Jewish conspiracies in a very prestigious event in Frankfurt... It's amazing and scary how many steps behinds the world has trodden in the last few days.
😢 i patiently listened to a number of his lectures: The man may be intelegent but he presents himself as a confused, babbling professor with a basic difficulty in presenting his own case. Not appealing the general Western audience.
Now tell me why would that be relevant to his philosophy and thinking? Were you not able to understand his narratives and ideas? Going "ad-personam" or what?
@@mizanursakib2076 Yea didn't get it either. Sounded like muddled mess. But at least Slavoj made it clear he's not aligning with the Jews in any way. Phewww, I swear I was beginning to suspect he's a Jew sympathizer there for a minute.
Zizek's point is that the social problems attributed to Jews by anti-semites are really problems already present in that society. attributing it to Jews is their way of saying "it's not an issue with the social order itself, but these outside antagonizers are causing these problems and if we get rid of them then things will sort themselves out."@@mizanursakib2076
Within the immense complexities of life there are directly intractable problems: simultaneously, contradictions can be true. A response of a person, of a people, is the result of the surroundings which forms them, which in turn can be influenced by a second group with varying levels of culpability and responsibility. _There is no guarantee that this response, necessitated by power differences, may be able to discriminate and still have an effect._ There is no morality at this point; it is simply unavoidable fact. Zizek is attempting to show that, in the face of such a paradox, a less direct approach which combats the most significant enabling element--in this case, the myriad, myriad problems of hierarchical economics--may, at this point, offer the only possibility of hope, unless we wish to bury our heads and morality in perpetuity. Guess which the rich and powerful of the 'left' and 'right' prefers. @@mizanursakib2076
this is a guy in an audience to hear a philosopher - presumably someone quite far above average intelligence - yet he is still irrationally tribal and preferential of his in-group. as are the people on the other side. they'll pull us into a huge war over a patch of desert. can we not all just acknowledge that cultures should not mix? it clearly doesn't work. we've gotten away with it for a while in the west because of the excess money still lying around from imperialism but we can see huge cracks forming now as things get worse. how can we in the UK possibly live with several million people who care far more about a country thousands of miles away? who are furious about a war against the people who we are funding!? when our cultures have completely different values and languages? It's so obvious it will end in more and more violence but nobody wants to admit it
A Lot in the comments seem to misunderstand Zizek. First of all, I think it's silly to deny that many extremely wealthy Jews who support Zionism, have or had major influence on both political parties of the US and historically also held influence in the political parties of the UK. Sheldon Adelson is a perfect example, We can all see why it's so very problematic to make this argument and must be carefully observed and highlighted, it will still be extremely difficult of an argument to make. What Zizek understands is that in a capitalist system, this can happen, capital will always dominate over the political ethics of a society. Hence why he believes to stop said influence, which is natural in a capitalist system, we should look to reform the system itself and not seek to limit the powers of certain individuals or god forbid groups.
he said that in the end , but still he will support liberal imperialism in every key moment. Agent of the west from 80s, we in ex Yugoslavia know this very well.
Oh thats why 17 out of the 20 richest men in the world of "juice". And thats why 1/3 of nba team are owned by them. Thats why 5 of 5 biggest Hollywood companies is run by own and invented by them. Explains a lot... You are a puppet of them. Now scream Antisemite without even knowing what a semite is.
I saw a biologist lose his job because he reposted an article from the onion: "Palestinians criticized for not denouncing Hamas with their last words".
Cubans are wealthier than Jews in the US? Guess, I‘ll have to buy a ring and find me my own William Levy (without the constant crying, por dios!). I can already hear him telling me to „Vete a la cama“. My life has just turned into a telenovela.
The question did have antisemitic connotations, but does that mean we should just dismiss it? Why is fear of antisemitism is so hyperfixated on? Even in the comments here, everyone just screams "antisemitism!" and insults, shouldn't you atleast consider it and if it really is just antisemitism it can be easily disproved because it's just built on blind hate or propaganda.
Zizek did consider it and answer it. The audience member clearly wasn’t interested in actually asking a question or hearing an answer, he just wanted to briefly stand on his soapbox and say “fuck all jews”. That’s why he rightfully ought to be dismissed; he’s not a serious person.
@@utility00then how is that themselves can say they control hollywood but if other person say its "anti semitism". You just a brain dead zombie. When a group so tiny like is highly overrepresented in any influential field you should be allowed to ask some questions..
People on here crying about the supposed antisemitism of the question when zizek literally acknowledges PC as a means for the establishment to hegemonize and control discourse. 😂Feeble minded, really.
I dont think he was trying to make a joke. I think he was trying to point out that there is growing antisemitism in America, with a rhetoric targeted at their wealth etc. and he tries to make a point that actually the most well off immigrants are Cuban, which basically points to the fact that Jews are just the scape goat, the enemy, the target, of a growing social discontent created by Capitalism.
The speaker asking that question is one step away from answering himself. It's not about Israel vs Palestine, it's about the polarized extremists behind it on both sides. Hence you have to criticize both.
How is it both sides when Israel is the occupier? You can criticize both, but both sides didn't get here together at the same time for the same historical reasoning. That's just a straight-up lie.
@@immortalnightbody,Israel being the occupier doesnt tell the whole story, that is just spinning a narrative. Yes they have hatred in their hearts as well, but please go read up on some history friend. Im not a Zizek fan or a particular fan of Israel, but dont act like you havent heard of 'us vs them'.
Incredible, RUclips is not letting me answer this one. I think that both sides have blood on their hands, it doesn't matter how you spin it. Two wrongs don't make a right.
@@NIL0S The occupation of Palestine by Israel is the original sin from which all of this stems. History doesn't have winners and losers, it isn't some closed loop.
It think this is the route the left needs to go. Frictionlessly accept the premise that Jews control a lot of the money and such because it's undeniable and denying it only makes you look disingenuous, but bring it to an even more fundamental conclusion about capitalism rather than some ridiculous ethnic cleansing fantasy.
How? He didn't answer it at all, he danced around for 3 minutes and then ultimately answered something else entirely. He complained about the system, which was built by the people the questioner is asking about. He didn't answer it at all.
@@amalayum Pointing out that the answer is systemic rather than a question of ethnicity might not have been the answer you want, but that doesn't change that that is the answer. His point is clearly that if it wasn't Jews largely occupying this role in society, it might have been Koreans or Cubans or whatever. Again you might want the answer to be some sort of Jewish question bullshit, but that doesn't mean it is.
@@amalayum The problem is that anyone who believes that the jews control global capital has completly severed himself from reality, which makes it hard to give him any definitive argument. The only thing you can do is to remind him of the actual reality we live in.
@@amalayumExcept it wasnt? you actually look historically and no "group" built it, its a dynamic social, economic and ideological "creature" that spurns itself forward. saying that jews built capitalism implies everybody else was somehow a zombie or robot that "could" be programmed. like seriously, two of the biggest monopolists in US history were Ford and Disney and both were raging antisemites, disney even flirting with hitlerists directly. ask how they got rich and the story is as you see everywhere, a mixture of opportunism, exploitation, luck and technological/structural innovation, no evil cabal necessary.
The strategy of polarisation from the west is in full clarity here. Its only a matter of time before Palestine is lost and we start condemning each other rather than the subjects of this castastrophe
It’s already lost. When Hamas did that terrorist attacked, they completely destroyed and remaining possibility (what ever there was) that there would ever be an Arab state there. There won’t ever be, anyone who thinks otherwise is either ignorant of the ground reality, too caught up in ideology, or both. It is as clear as day that the Arabs aren’t getting another state there. It’s over. Has been.
@@loscilla i mean. There is global polarization happening due to the very geopolitics of the world in this days. This is not a conspiratorial thinking. It's an acknowledgement of the fact that china and the US are not friends.
I stand by the questioner. They play both sides, if Zizek was intelligent, he'd have an answer for this common and well-known fact. Instead he spends almost 3 minutes dancing around the topic and then ultimately answers a completely different question. You can't complain about the political system when it's these people in charge on both sides who prevent anything from changing. Politics are a problem of people ultimately. So blaming a system (which people invented) instead of the people responsible is simple cowardice.
A well-known fact? If the Jews "are in charge", all 15 million of them in the world, how do they coordinate? Is there a mass meeting every week? A whatsapp group? Or is it Jewish magic or telepathy. Where is your evidence? If one group is in charge, what are other groups doing together? What are the Catholics agenda? Or the Jains? Jazz lovers? If you want to blame a group of people (other than the same group that has been blamed for everything for 2000 years) blame the billionaire class that rules this world. Don't get distracted by fictional monster stories. Or maybe you just hate Jews. In which case, you have zero credibility.
Okay guy's, call me stupid or whatever, i don't care. But every time I listen to Zizek talk, he brambles on about different points without really making a proper point. Can someone please simplify his answer so us 'uneducated folk' can understand his message.
I am deep into zizek but he has done this time one thing he does often when extremely shocked. Instead of remaining speechless, he says whatever that passes through his mind as fast as possible while refusing to acknowledge reality around. The thing you can extract from here is not anything from his response really but the fact that he probably went to bed at night tortured by the realization that he had met a literal nazi.
The point is: There is no jewish conspiracy. Capitalism brings groups of people in power independent of their ethnicity, thus the example of the cuban people. In fact it is right now the social democrats who are implementing some kind of 'counter-revolutionary' narrative by pushing 'woke' agenda.
I would have liked Zizek to have called out the revolting anti-semitism of the questioner explicitly, instead of offering the truth as a counter argument (in my opinion). "The Jews are BEHIND..". I mean seriously?! He should have been expelled from the room for stating such poison.
AIPAC Has supported both left and right candidates. And 97% of their candidates win. However these are zionists not just jews. Many of them are evangelicals.
This is, indeed, not a real answer. As Zizek was stuck between not wanting to appears antisemit, not wanting to appears uncritical, and his innate will to philosophically puts words into meaning. And there, he is not precious on any of the subject, he should just have dropped the latter and just said, "down with Israel colonial state", "death to antisemitism" and "it's childish to not understand the capital as a faceless entity". Because we all know he already thinks that, because we all know just stating the things here would have been the best option. And to say the least, here we retired nothing more from the sophistication, for once.
@@OmbreDunDouble the actual answer to the antisemite’s insistence “why aren’t you talking about how all politicians are in the pocket of Jews?” Is “A: Jews as an ethnicity are not rich, categorising them as such is just factually incorrect, and B: the problem is the structure of absurdly rich people with political sway. not the current people at the top of the pyramid. the pyramid itself." answering instead "antisemitism bad, how dare you" is giving up to the dichotomy of people question is trying to paint, of the jews side and the non jews side. The world isnt fucking binary and zizek is right to be worried about the demand for binary reaction to complex situations. asking to support israel or hamas is asking who should threaten palestinians with guns, muslims or a discriminatory dehumanising state. the actual answer id:neither. they should be able to live without fear of any governing body's lethal whims. assuming that murder of noncombatants is justified simply because those noncombatants are born to the wrong regime is letting the actual people responsible for the inhuman conditions off the hook, as well as is not different from the israeli lust for revenge in response to the innocents killed. the assumption "if only the right guys were in power then the whole world would be running smooth, so lets murder anyone else" both doesn't solve the situation and stokes the flames of this almost a century long cycle. when all the options are wrong pointing out that the alternative just isn't within the either/or premise is a better answer than the question.
I mean, personally, I'm not a fan of Apartheid, neither of colonialism, and, to be even more precise, neither of the inevitables lies who follows the two first statements when speaking of Israel. 🕊🔥🇵🇸
He couldn't even repeat the statement "Jews control the narrative of the Left and the Right in the US" all he could say was "blah, blah. Yes I agree with blah, blah." He also agreed that he is a puppet of the Jews in this recording. Quite the interview.
Honestly I don’t think it does much good to engage in a conversation with the antisemite in the crowd. His bigotry gets in the way of a rational discussion
I don't like Israel as much as the next guy, but framing the question with "the Jews" truly shows your position before you even ask your question. It is antisemitic both for Israel to turn being "Jewish" into being an Israeli national, as well as for an outsider to refer to Israelis as "the Jews".
At least he's completely transparent with his bigotry. What's much scarier is the sentiment expressed in your comment that as long as you are careful about your language and stop short of saying "da jews", basically anything goes. He explicitly asserted that "Jewish capital" was behind the left and right in the USA (10 seconds in); he's not just mixing words about the Israel-Palestine conflict. It's obscene to turn this into an opportunity to berate Israel. Imagine, for example, if someone made a conspiratorial, racist assertion about Han Chinese people. Well, ok, there are always some unabashed racists on the fringes of all societies. But then someone writes a rebuttal where half of it is devoted to denouncing the PRC. It essentially subverts the whole point of the rebuttal.
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If don’t change your racist thumbnail of the angry arab i will report your video and make RUclips remove it
i love zizek but you are doing a major disservice by including that racist thumbnail and caption pushing for antisemitism. c'mon bro
@@skyofforest talk about not understanding Žižek's point in the slightest.
Please change your thumbnail. It's not helpful, and plays into racist, dehumanising tropes about Palestinians / Arabs. Your title is also playing with an antisemitic trope, which is again not helpful. Please change these things as soon as you can, to avoid sowing discord in this difficult period for so many people, especially Palestinians and Israelis.
Fine, you won't change your racist thumbnail, so I'm unsubscribing
Zizek always sounds like he's mocking Zizek.
(his beauty).🥸🎓
Video Summary:
* The speaker questions why the interviewee supports framing politics as a left vs right narrative, arguing that Jewish capital is behind both sides in the US.
* The interviewee acknowledges this framing as a problem but still thinks it's relevant. The speaker says this will result in a "dirty J" as punishment.
* The speaker argues that looking at world capital structures shows other groups surpass Jews in average wealth, using Cuban immigrants in the US as an example.
* The speaker says criticizing Israel is fine but blaming Jews obscures the real antagonism of the political system, where the problem is rich vs poor rather than Jews having money.
* They ask who really corrupted the Democratic party and invented political correctness to prevent popular mobilization.
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Thank you!!! The audio isn’t the best so this helps a lot
Yeah, but put that way someone could call Zizek "class reductionist"; it´s not that the "real" problem is the opposition rich vs. poor, it´s just that there are power structures -encouraged by capitalism, that go beyond the wealth and interests of particular groups of people. Therefore, blaming one ethnicity is obscuring the forest for one tree. It´s a great answer really.
@@dadiarfs8261not sure who you're responding to, but yes it was a good answer, considering the time limitations of a Q&A
You will get a dirty joke. Not dirty J.
Guy asks a question and then doesnt want his answer
Antisemites rarely do
@@benzur3503Antisemite my ass.. Everytime antisemite this antisemite that.. What's the problem with be being antisemite?
@@benzur3503but do you reject the genocide of the Palestinian people?
Yea he just wants to hate Jews lol
He already decided what he wanted out of the exchange, he was purely there for a shallow, shitty "gotcha" and Zizek saw that immediately, didn't feed into it and that's why the guy objected before Zizek even finished his first point. These people are some smarmy bastards to try that on a well equipped and witty intellectual.
Nice deflection by Zizek. The Cubans in America don't have a lobby like AIPAC that dictates the political discourse of the American Congress and Senate.
Someone who gets it! I don't think anyone has a lobby as influential and with legacy like AIPAC.
The day someone works out how to get a high quality audio recording of zizek without significant noise, they should win the Pulitzer Prize
I know you're joking, but the Swiss national broadcasting company SRF has several high-quality, quite recent interviews with him on youtube in German and English.
The close caption works really well.
haha I find all the noise endearing. But yeah, if you show some random person a clip of him and say that he is a famous public speaker, they will think that you must be a lunatic.
or simply use a lav mic, because brilliant as he is, he has terrible microphone technique. He doesn't move the mic when he turns his head to speak, making it impossible to hear.
oh hshshut up
I'm a Palestinian and i find that guy's comment us so disrespectful to Zizek and his philosophy, complete misunderstanding of what he was trying to say during the whole thing.
A rare unradicalized Palestinian appeared
@@nickmullen9510 a common bigot appeared
@@nickmullen9510LOL most palestinians would simply like to live in peace with their families, just like most israelis.
It’s always a minority of dumbasses that destroy the life of the peaceful majority.
He’s right though,pretty much all pali Arabs are foaming at the mouth ideologues. It’s gross
@@thesuperiorman8342have fun in Palestine
That dude was being incredibly antisemitic I’m sorry. Zizek should have called him out even more than he did honestly
He was being a stereotyping idiot, not antisemitic.
He said that "Jews are behind both left and right politics" how is that not antisemitic
@@schizophrenicenthusiast how is saying Jewish stereotypes not antisemitic? That’s ridiculous
Yeah I don't think anyone is gonna change that guy's mind, but I like the question of "what is your alternative narrative"
This guy's alternative narrative, if he had to ask himself, would reflect an embarrassingly stupid worldview
@@schizophrenicenthusiast Please explain to me what antisemitism is.
The usual anti Semitic trope.
The usual rich joos
The usual weaponizing of antisemitism to shield an imperial power intent on genocide.
@@meepins no, just prejudice
@@meepinsyes, capitalists.
@@meepinsthey can just look up publicly available information which is overwhelmingly in favor of what this guy was saying, but then they say "well that doesn't mean/prove anything". the stockholm syndrome is too strong with them 😂
You can tell Zizek is utterly perplexed at the bigotry nature of the question, which borders on (19th century) antisemitism. I mean, how do you even begin to explain that there is in fact no international Jewish conspiracy pulling the world's purse strings. It seems like Zizek doesn't know if to answer the question itself, which explicitly questions why he is supporting "the Jews", or to answer a question regarding his--not really support--but mere acknowledgement of the pain and injustice that was and has been inflicted upon ISRAEL.
Yeah it’s an utterly ridiculous and antisemitic (age-old, as you said) question
Yeah, how did someone with these ideas even get there?
No.
If there is not international conspiracy pulling the world's strings, why is Israel so strong military?
@@luke9947 He must have watched the videos of congress applauding Netenyahu like he was Stalin and they were clapping for their lives
01:31 "Cuban immigrants surpassed the Jews on average wealth" is that a Scarface reference? 🤔
Now we know who truly is behind wokeness and is disturbingly rich
Yep... NYT, MSNBC, CNN, Warner, ADL, Disney, NewsCorp, AT&T, Bank of America, FED, Blackrock, PayPal, Neftlix... all run by Cubans... hahaha
People who are uncomfortable with the positions Zizek is questioning with the Palestine/Israel conflict saying he is just a puppet, he doesn't commit to the cause, he just corrupt and so on, are the type of people who need to hear him. Don't you see what he is doing? He knows he has an international audience that will push back on being critical about the conflict, he is not just giving another annoying joke here. Now more than ever people like him are needed at their best.
I can barely understand what eithe r of them are sayi g.
I can barely understand what eithe r of them are sayi g.
What is he saying that we must listen to? This was not a very enlightening snippet. What is his position?
He gave a 25 minute speech on the conflict last week bro lmao@@opinion3742
@@Padraigp turn on the captions theyre not perfect but theyre good enough
Christoph Waltz will play the best Slavoj Zizek some day
Lmao! Yeah
For those who say Zizek should have just raged at this guy and cancelled him as an anti-semite.
If he did that, he would firstly be going against his own arguments against political correctness and his criticisms of the hypocrisy behind calls for Equality, Diverty and Inclusion.
Secondly, by handling it this way instead of getting triggered, Zizek demolished the guys argument and made him look dumb to all who are capable of reason.
He was never going to convince the guy asking the question, but he made that guy a minority by demonstrating it was incorrect. Thus dealing with the problem.
If the left would do what Zizek does instead of following the Cult of Political Correctness we wouldnt have a right wing uprising. As Zizek said, Trump's best allies were the leftist liberals that hated him. Sadly Trump didnt achieved his historical role, no one learned nothing. Its still Zizek vs the whole world.
Exactly why I love Zizek here.
Zizek just got tongue tied. That's because it wasn't so much a question as an accusation.
an insult even
It was an antisemitic nonsense.
he was visibly shaken
My thoughts exactly. Not much of an answer for not much of a question either.
@@mikiafu Also *anti-semantic.* It's against words having meanings.
Perfect behaviour from Zizek
i was there, the worst part was, that the antisemit left directly after his second question leaving poor zizek here speaking to the void for half the time lol
The antisemite is obviously an idiot but out of curiosity, do you know what was he saying at 0:57?
Where did this conference happen, if I may ask ? I heard he was in Frankfurt, Germany recently. Is it the same conference ? If so, then, oh boy.
@@_sayan_roy_ it is the 'reading' one day later, after his speech in israel/palestine in Frankfurt, yes. Sadly there was not much reading, but only discussion about his comment one day earlier.
Zizeks patience and poise is unbreakable i swear
What a silly provocateur trying to trap Zizek.
What is Zizek's position on the conflict?
@@opinion3742at the beginning of the convention he made himself pretty clear. Hamas and Israel are condemnable and the Palestinians deserve better than this dichotomy
Could anyone provide a source on his claim that Cuban Immigrants have surpassed Jewish Americans in average wealth?
He made it up
@@soulsmouls ok then can you provide evidence to the contrary? I’m open to either being true but “average wealth by demographic” isn’t easy search to sift through
@@taylormanning2709 I cannot provide evidence for something that does not exist
@@soulsmouls you’re right that no single source contains both income-by-religion and income-by-ethnicity. pewresearch identifies 44% of Jewish Americans as 6-figure earners, likely placing their median around $80k-90k. In a separate article, they state that the median income of Cuban-americans is $38k.
I understand the difference of median and average, and that Zizek spoke of averages. Unless there are some insane outliers, I do not see how the averages can disagree with the medians considering the difference
@@taylormanning2709I take it you are a much better person than soulsmouls.
Antisemitism has no place in our society. I am extremely critical of Israel - current Israeli government is committing war crimes and must be held legally accountable. But do not mix this with antisemitism. Jews have been the most persecuted people in human history and the whole humanity, in my opinion, should be apologetic to Jews.
Hence, I do not appreciate the question from the audience! NEVER we can allow to dehumanize an ethnic, religious or any other group (that is what happened to Jews through the history, and to some extent Israeli government is doing that to Palestinians now).
Who do you think you’re talking to?
Most jews think in terms of group evolutionary strategy(read kevin macdonad) and they have a very high ethnic/cultural awareness. This has allowed them to ethnically network and make themselves very good capitalists/academics in the modern economy. They also have a disproportionate share of hedge fund board seats/ banking leadership positions and media ownership. When you mix this together, how can you not see that this “religion”, which is really an ethnic group, is preventing the proper critique and socializing of national and international economic life ? Its frustrating to manage the nuances but it doesnt mean you hate jews, just what they are doing at our expense. And of course this isnt all Jews but most who are apart of this group evolutionary strategy
@josefk1491 I mean, they have basically been driven from their initial homeland through several waves of invading powers, spread across the entire globe, hated and banned so many places and then endured an eradication attempt, while blaming them of all sort of weird society problems, in the middle of Europe where 6 million of them got killed. When they reclaimed their homeland (by civil war which set the framework for todays situation), almost every other country around decided to attack them, forward to today and we have people still making remarks that sounds awful alot like something the nazis used to say. You know, about the whole "jews controling the world" ordeal. I don't know any other group of people that have endured this much shit over litterally thousands of years.
@@connor1414 You know which ethnicity has the most disproportionate seats on banking, corporate or hedge fund seats? Anglo-Saxons. And even more specifically then Anglo Saxons, Aristocrats. And yet there are no conspiracy theories discussing how British aristocrats are a global cabal controlling world events.
@josefk1491 Where is my comment? Trying to defend an ethnic genocide? What on earth are you on about?
gotta love Zizek , always respectful and on point with the piercing Truth
i like the guy's critical thinking and his takes generally too, but I fail to see the point he wanted to make; may you please elaborate on this "piercing truth" you gathered from his insights? (besides the objection saying that we shouldn't blame the jews rather the social/political system, which I agree about btw)
What? His answer to the question was complete sophistry.
@@Branahtdit's hopeless. these people worship Zizek and think that whatever incoherent words he spits are gospel. We live in the age of personality cults and even our rising critical and free thinkers need a daddy. It's funny that Zizek himself beautifully talks about the Master dialectic. But i doubt they've read anything for him. They just want someone who supports their spineless take on a brutal occupation because it safeguards their interests.
@@samiserhan6296 just as I thought too. Thanks for the comment bro. Greetings from Tunisia.
@@Branahtd greetings from lebanon
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lol Zizek has got a truly compassionate heart to not outright spurn that bigoted question - an attitude which makes total sense philosophically.
These leftists got another thing coming if they think the oppressed give two shiits about their “bigotry” and “antisemitism”
Are you trans
Was this the questioner's first time meeting Zizek? He should know to wait at least 30 minutes before saying, "see you have no answer".
The Juice
People speaking aloud about Jewish conspiracies in a very prestigious event in Frankfurt... It's amazing and scary how many steps behinds the world has trodden in the last few days.
I just gained more respect for Slavoj. Very weighted answer.
Sounds like a puppet
"Jewish capitalist are behind both left and right in the USA.", I find this preoccupation dangerous
😢 i patiently listened to a number of his lectures: The man may be intelegent but he presents himself as a confused, babbling professor with a basic difficulty in presenting his own case. Not appealing the general Western audience.
Cuban immigrant average wealth statement seems incorrect from all I've personally found thus far.
As a punishment you will get a dirty joke
I love Zizek because he triggers both tankies and nazis
lol
This guy's been giving public speeches in English since the 90s and still manages to speak like an average uber driver from Eastern Europe
Now tell me why would that be relevant to his philosophy and thinking? Were you not able to understand his narratives and ideas? Going "ad-personam" or what?
Yet, you don't sound stupid at all, do you?
@@vidselih oh I almost forgot they sucked the concept of humour out of the left
@@let_me_explain8572I mean ur idea of humor is a black guy laughing despite being white
Surely a true leftist wouldn't consider being called "an average uber driver" an insult?!?@@vidselih
Not everyone has the ability to not take criticism personally.
it wasn't criticism, it was an insult. And a totally unjustified one, at that. But yeah, it was admirable. I certainly wouldn't be able to
@@move2003ny why
@@masquecenamarada945 happy to try and answer your question, but can you please be more specific. I mean, why what?
Zizek is one of the few people talking sense these days. That’s probably why he is getting so much flak from both sides.
But what is he actually professing.. Can you brief me on his point pls?
@@mizanursakib2076 Yea didn't get it either. Sounded like muddled mess. But at least Slavoj made it clear he's not aligning with the Jews in any way. Phewww, I swear I was beginning to suspect he's a Jew sympathizer there for a minute.
Zizek's point is that the social problems attributed to Jews by anti-semites are really problems already present in that society. attributing it to Jews is their way of saying "it's not an issue with the social order itself, but these outside antagonizers are causing these problems and if we get rid of them then things will sort themselves out."@@mizanursakib2076
Within the immense complexities of life there are directly intractable problems: simultaneously, contradictions can be true. A response of a person, of a people, is the result of the surroundings which forms them, which in turn can be influenced by a second group with varying levels of culpability and responsibility. _There is no guarantee that this response, necessitated by power differences, may be able to discriminate and still have an effect._ There is no morality at this point; it is simply unavoidable fact.
Zizek is attempting to show that, in the face of such a paradox, a less direct approach which combats the most significant enabling element--in this case, the myriad, myriad problems of hierarchical economics--may, at this point, offer the only possibility of hope, unless we wish to bury our heads and morality in perpetuity.
Guess which the rich and powerful of the 'left' and 'right' prefers. @@mizanursakib2076
Being a centrist is a hard position this day. Liz Cheney, Romney had already gone.
this is a guy in an audience to hear a philosopher - presumably someone quite far above average intelligence - yet he is still irrationally tribal and preferential of his in-group. as are the people on the other side. they'll pull us into a huge war over a patch of desert.
can we not all just acknowledge that cultures should not mix? it clearly doesn't work. we've gotten away with it for a while in the west because of the excess money still lying around from imperialism but we can see huge cracks forming now as things get worse.
how can we in the UK possibly live with several million people who care far more about a country thousands of miles away? who are furious about a war against the people who we are funding!? when our cultures have completely different values and languages?
It's so obvious it will end in more and more violence but nobody wants to admit it
Completely incoherent.
A Lot in the comments seem to misunderstand Zizek. First of all, I think it's silly to deny that many extremely wealthy Jews who support Zionism, have or had major influence on both political parties of the US and historically also held influence in the political parties of the UK. Sheldon Adelson is a perfect example, We can all see why it's so very problematic to make this argument and must be carefully observed and highlighted, it will still be extremely difficult of an argument to make. What Zizek understands is that in a capitalist system, this can happen, capital will always dominate over the political ethics of a society. Hence why he believes to stop said influence, which is natural in a capitalist system, we should look to reform the system itself and not seek to limit the powers of certain individuals or god forbid groups.
he said that in the end , but still he will support liberal imperialism in every key moment. Agent of the west from 80s, we in ex Yugoslavia know this very well.
Totally incomprehendable
and so on and so on
blah blah @@Josche-hc9lu
😂😂😂 in this world the arabs have the money and the oil, not the jews.
Oh thats why 17 out of the 20 richest men in the world of "juice".
And thats why 1/3 of nba team are owned by them.
Thats why 5 of 5 biggest Hollywood companies is run by own and invented by them.
Explains a lot...
You are a puppet of them.
Now scream Antisemite without even knowing what a semite is.
Very distasteful of you to make such a thumbnail, where are we? Still in the sixties!
I Can't underthdant any of what he ith thaying
I didnt understand anything he was saying
Moronic.
I saw a biologist lose his job because he reposted an article from the onion: "Palestinians criticized for not denouncing Hamas with their last words".
Every political party has a political correctness angle
You are never safe in being Onioned. His company wasn't smart enough.
This man made me lose 20 IQ points listening to him
the definition of incoherence
Cubans are wealthier than Jews in the US? Guess, I‘ll have to buy a ring and find me my own William Levy (without the constant crying, por dios!). I can already hear him telling me to „Vete a la cama“. My life has just turned into a telenovela.
The question did have antisemitic connotations, but does that mean we should just dismiss it? Why is fear of antisemitism is so hyperfixated on?
Even in the comments here, everyone just screams "antisemitism!" and insults, shouldn't you atleast consider it and if it really is just antisemitism it can be easily disproved because it's just built on blind hate or propaganda.
Try saying "you are the puppet of the Arabs" or "you are the puppet of the blacks" or "you are the puppet of Muslims" and see what happens.
@@utility00 What's your point here?
Zizek did consider it and answer it. The audience member clearly wasn’t interested in actually asking a question or hearing an answer, he just wanted to briefly stand on his soapbox and say “fuck all jews”. That’s why he rightfully ought to be dismissed; he’s not a serious person.
@Curtis006 I know and I agree with you, I'm just talking about the comments generally
@@utility00then how is that themselves can say they control hollywood but if other person say its "anti semitism".
You just a brain dead zombie.
When a group so tiny like is highly overrepresented in any influential field you should be allowed to ask some questions..
He can't recognize antisemitism?
Zizek looked terrified by the question! poor man he had to lighten the mood with a joke!
I wanted to hear that dirty joke
People on here crying about the supposed antisemitism of the question when zizek literally acknowledges PC as a means for the establishment to hegemonize and control discourse. 😂Feeble minded, really.
This guy is is just another J Trotsky.
Trotsky was jewish by the way.. 😂
@@yoooooooalalalalalalalal yes he was a friend of the wall street tribe
Embarrassing
Anyone knows the joke which Zizek wanted to make?
I dont think he was trying to make a joke. I think he was trying to point out that there is growing antisemitism in America, with a rhetoric targeted at their wealth etc. and he tries to make a point that actually the most well off immigrants are Cuban, which basically points to the fact that Jews are just the scape goat, the enemy, the target, of a growing social discontent created by Capitalism.
If you find out, let me know.
Zizek was far too polite to this raging antisemite.
Are people missing that Zizek said "Yeah bla bla - do you have a solution?"?
Among decent people, that's close to maximum acceptable rudeness.
Full video?
Having no context this is incomprehensible.
If there's anyone else to blame for the conflict between arabs and israelí, that'd be the european potencies, particularly Great Britain.
The speaker asking that question is one step away from answering himself. It's not about Israel vs Palestine, it's about the polarized extremists behind it on both sides. Hence you have to criticize both.
How is it both sides when Israel is the occupier? You can criticize both, but both sides didn't get here together at the same time for the same historical reasoning. That's just a straight-up lie.
@@immortalnightbody,Israel being the occupier doesnt tell the whole story, that is just spinning a narrative. Yes they have hatred in their hearts as well, but please go read up on some history friend. Im not a Zizek fan or a particular fan of Israel, but dont act like you havent heard of 'us vs them'.
Incredible, RUclips is not letting me answer this one. I think that both sides have blood on their hands, it doesn't matter how you spin it. Two wrongs don't make a right.
@@NIL0S The occupation of Palestine by Israel is the original sin from which all of this stems. History doesn't have winners and losers, it isn't some closed loop.
Dah! Why do you think this pseudo-philosofo has been all over the mainstream media!!!??
wow. He rips the argument apart on its on terms
It think this is the route the left needs to go. Frictionlessly accept the premise that Jews control a lot of the money and such because it's undeniable and denying it only makes you look disingenuous, but bring it to an even more fundamental conclusion about capitalism rather than some ridiculous ethnic cleansing fantasy.
How? He didn't answer it at all, he danced around for 3 minutes and then ultimately answered something else entirely. He complained about the system, which was built by the people the questioner is asking about. He didn't answer it at all.
@@amalayum Pointing out that the answer is systemic rather than a question of ethnicity might not have been the answer you want, but that doesn't change that that is the answer. His point is clearly that if it wasn't Jews largely occupying this role in society, it might have been Koreans or Cubans or whatever. Again you might want the answer to be some sort of Jewish question bullshit, but that doesn't mean it is.
@@amalayum The problem is that anyone who believes that the jews control global capital has completly severed himself from reality, which makes it hard to give him any definitive argument.
The only thing you can do is to remind him of the actual reality we live in.
@@amalayumExcept it wasnt? you actually look historically and no "group" built it, its a dynamic social, economic and ideological "creature" that spurns itself forward. saying that jews built capitalism implies everybody else was somehow a zombie or robot that "could" be programmed. like seriously, two of the biggest monopolists in US history were Ford and Disney and both were raging antisemites, disney even flirting with hitlerists directly. ask how they got rich and the story is as you see everywhere, a mixture of opportunism, exploitation, luck and technological/structural innovation, no evil cabal necessary.
''juice'' 😭
Babbling posturing nonsense as usual from ZIzek 👏
Far Left wing and fat right wing rhetoric towards the Jews has fused. It’s time to choose sides
Do people really watch this shit unironically or is it just a big meme? Blabla?
Nazbol gang yeye
I'm joking sorry going back to reddot now
Jews are only conventional traditional and one more Dajaal I hold the keys
The strategy of polarisation from the west is in full clarity here. Its only a matter of time before Palestine is lost and we start condemning each other rather than the subjects of this castastrophe
There is no strategy, the polarization you are seeing is happening by default. Sorry.
May none of us be puppets of any imperial power.
there is no global-scale polarisation caused by one party. you are not much better than blaming the jews like the man in this video.
It’s already lost. When Hamas did that terrorist attacked, they completely destroyed and remaining possibility (what ever there was) that there would ever be an Arab state there. There won’t ever be, anyone who thinks otherwise is either ignorant of the ground reality, too caught up in ideology, or both. It is as clear as day that the Arabs aren’t getting another state there. It’s over. Has been.
@@loscilla i mean. There is global polarization happening due to the very geopolitics of the world in this days. This is not a conspiratorial thinking. It's an acknowledgement of the fact that china and the US are not friends.
It's only mind games, as philosopher John Lennon once said.
I stand by the questioner. They play both sides, if Zizek was intelligent, he'd have an answer for this common and well-known fact. Instead he spends almost 3 minutes dancing around the topic and then ultimately answers a completely different question. You can't complain about the political system when it's these people in charge on both sides who prevent anything from changing. Politics are a problem of people ultimately. So blaming a system (which people invented) instead of the people responsible is simple cowardice.
A well-known fact? If the Jews "are in charge", all 15 million of them in the world, how do they coordinate? Is there a mass meeting every week? A whatsapp group? Or is it Jewish magic or telepathy. Where is your evidence? If one group is in charge, what are other groups doing together? What are the Catholics agenda? Or the Jains? Jazz lovers? If you want to blame a group of people (other than the same group that has been blamed for everything for 2000 years) blame the billionaire class that rules this world. Don't get distracted by fictional monster stories. Or maybe you just hate Jews. In which case, you have zero credibility.
Okay guy's, call me stupid or whatever, i don't care. But every time I listen to Zizek talk, he brambles on about different points without really making a proper point. Can someone please simplify his answer so us 'uneducated folk' can understand his message.
Bluff as a pseudo-cognitive food for the conformists of the pseudo-left.
I am deep into zizek but he has done this time one thing he does often when extremely shocked. Instead of remaining speechless, he says whatever that passes through his mind as fast as possible while refusing to acknowledge reality around. The thing you can extract from here is not anything from his response really but the fact that he probably went to bed at night tortured by the realization that he had met a literal nazi.
no he makes no sense lol
The point is: There is no jewish conspiracy. Capitalism brings groups of people in power independent of their ethnicity, thus the example of the cuban people. In fact it is right now the social democrats who are implementing some kind of 'counter-revolutionary' narrative by pushing 'woke' agenda.
He is leftist but he is not woke
I would have liked Zizek to have called out the revolting anti-semitism of the questioner explicitly, instead of offering the truth as a counter argument (in my opinion). "The Jews are BEHIND..". I mean seriously?! He should have been expelled from the room for stating such poison.
AIPAC Has supported both left and right candidates. And 97% of their candidates win. However these are zionists not just jews. Many of them are evangelicals.
The joke is on anyone asking asking for his "serious analysis" on anything.
Sod off
This is not a real answer from Zizek.
It is. And like most of his answers, it’s pointing that it’s not a real question
It wasn't a real question.
This is, indeed, not a real answer.
As Zizek was stuck between not wanting to appears antisemit, not wanting to appears uncritical, and his innate will to philosophically puts words into meaning.
And there, he is not precious on any of the subject, he should just have dropped the latter and just said, "down with Israel colonial state", "death to antisemitism" and "it's childish to not understand the capital as a faceless entity".
Because we all know he already thinks that, because we all know just stating the things here would have been the best option. And to say the least, here we retired nothing more from the sophistication, for once.
@@OmbreDunDouble the actual answer to the antisemite’s insistence “why aren’t you talking about how all politicians are in the pocket of Jews?” Is “A: Jews as an ethnicity are not rich, categorising them as such is just factually incorrect, and B: the problem is the structure of absurdly rich people with political sway. not the current people at the top of the pyramid. the pyramid itself." answering instead "antisemitism bad, how dare you" is giving up to the dichotomy of people question is trying to paint, of the jews side and the non jews side. The world isnt fucking binary and zizek is right to be worried about the demand for binary reaction to complex situations. asking to support israel or hamas is asking who should threaten palestinians with guns, muslims or a discriminatory dehumanising state. the actual answer id:neither. they should be able to live without fear of any governing body's lethal whims. assuming that murder of noncombatants is justified simply because those noncombatants are born to the wrong regime is letting the actual people responsible for the inhuman conditions off the hook, as well as is not different from the israeli lust for revenge in response to the innocents killed. the assumption "if only the right guys were in power then the whole world would be running smooth, so lets murder anyone else" both doesn't solve the situation and stokes the flames of this almost a century long cycle. when all the options are wrong pointing out that the alternative just isn't within the either/or premise is a better answer than the question.
What's funny is that both Arabs and Jews yelled at him. If you've triggered both sides, you are on the right side.
or you are flip flopping
Fence sitting and middle ground argument doesn't make you right. It is defined as the fallacy that the truth is always in the middle of two opposites
@@Michedelic9 but in this case it really is in the middle. I dont know how can you defend insane bombing campaign or insane Hamas massacre.
can't believe people still think this way
Hoards of people were chanting "gas the Jews" and celebrating the slaughter of Jews just a few days ago. I can't say I'm surprised, sadly.
The majority in Muslim countries thinks this way (about Jews). That's why they profess their hatred of Jews and Israel without helping Palestinians.
The guy spoke the truth. Zizek deflected his question like a coward.
@@K55365 you wouldn't know truth if your mother introduced it as your biological father.
It is about CLASS
a very good response too a very antisemitic question
Who started it? Jews or Palestines? --> the west.
Lmfao zizek sure knows how to complicate a pretty straight forward situation….
Long live Israel 🇮🇱
I mean, personally, I'm not a fan of Apartheid, neither of colonialism, and, to be even more precise, neither of the inevitables lies who follows the two first statements when speaking of Israel.
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Zizek is expressing his opinion, others don’t have the bolls to say it. Bravoo Mr. Zizek!
He couldn't even repeat the statement "Jews control the narrative of the Left and the Right in the US" all he could say was "blah, blah. Yes I agree with blah, blah." He also agreed that he is a puppet of the Jews in this recording. Quite the interview.
i find that guy's comment so fascinating man
Lol he almost shat himself
How do you know this? Do you smell his ass?
Pure antisemitic blabla
Clearly a Hamas supporter
Wow blatant antisemitism
Rarely heard such naked antisemitism as I have heard in the critique of Zizek here.
That’s an awfully liberal use of the word “critique” lol
Well, if we ever were to hear such, it of course is gonna come from a leftist or a Muslim. Lol.
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You mean such naked facts?
the opressors are the politicians and big business irrelevant of jews ,palestinians, left or right
what is zizzek views on john dewey educational philosphy? can anyone know plz tell me my friend ask from me
The prize for such a question is five years re-education.
haha someone had balls to ask a hard question, Zizek look stuned he cant answer ! he was expecting the bullshit questions as a fine educated man does
'stuned' - He looked stunned, or stoned? Lol
Honestly I don’t think it does much good to engage in a conversation with the antisemite in the crowd. His bigotry gets in the way of a rational discussion
I don't like Israel as much as the next guy, but framing the question with "the Jews" truly shows your position before you even ask your question. It is antisemitic both for Israel to turn being "Jewish" into being an Israeli national, as well as for an outsider to refer to Israelis as "the Jews".
Israel is the Jewish state...that's how Jews define it, along with most of the rest of the world.
At least he's completely transparent with his bigotry. What's much scarier is the sentiment expressed in your comment that as long as you are careful about your language and stop short of saying "da jews", basically anything goes. He explicitly asserted that "Jewish capital" was behind the left and right in the USA (10 seconds in); he's not just mixing words about the Israel-Palestine conflict. It's obscene to turn this into an opportunity to berate Israel. Imagine, for example, if someone made a conspiratorial, racist assertion about Han Chinese people. Well, ok, there are always some unabashed racists on the fringes of all societies. But then someone writes a rebuttal where half of it is devoted to denouncing the PRC. It essentially subverts the whole point of the rebuttal.
@@verysmoky3605 So you support a state that is founded on ethnic cleansing and genocide, which is still actively being committed today?
I just realized that the conference seems to be in Germany. Yikes.