Saleh's Firing: A Coach's Perspective
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- Опубликовано: 20 ноя 2024
- Bill Belichick, Matt Patricia, and Mike Lombardi have a raw and real conversation about Saleh's firing and what it feels like to be in the hot seat. #robertsaleh #billbelichick #mattpatricia #michaellombardi
This show is exactly as good as I hoped it would be. This is quality ball talk.
agree 100%, glad to hear Belichick's brain.
Can't believe there isn't more views tbh but I am sure it will get there. Up there with McAfee but I prefer this format way more chill.
Too bad they are talking about the Jets.
@@MarkLukeFarrell People are saying it's because he went from no media, to appearances on half a dozen shows, then some of his own. It got too saturated with him too quickly. They were just saying on another show I think it was Albert Breers, that they just had to move his show from the primetime Friday night spot to Monday morning because it was pretty unpopular.
Great Football talk
Not enough people are watching this type of real analysis of the ups and downs of coaching in the NFL. Just real, honest, and genuine conversation - but most importantly knowledge, experience, sympathy, and credibility about the subject matter. Not like the bullshit emotional ratings driven media. These are three guys that competed and hated the Jets for many years, yet all they have to say is how sympathetic they are to the situation that Saleh found himself in. This is what every sports show should be like - real, intelligent, and human. Less media drivel from morons who have no idea what they are talking about and more of this, please.
This show and Gruden's show are the only football talk I'll watch nowadays. Down to earth football talk without all the fluff and BS
Put me in coach ! Great speech
this is no different thAN ANY OTHER SHOW ABOUT FOOTBALL
STOP WITH YOUR FANTASY IDIOCY
This show's audience is small bc football fans want to be entertained not informed. Not enough Cocomelon screen cuts or "remember that time" stories to have mass appeal. Exactly the right amount of people are watching it.
@@harrishogan943 yes the people that like cliches and unoriginal thought probably love this
I’m sad to see Bill not coaching, however I am happy for all of his insight into coaching and general managing an NFL team.
Agree. I love this podcast. Michael Lombardi's GM Shuffle podcast is also excellent.
@@r.williamcomm7693mike is the lowkey star of this pod, he always has something interesting to say. I had no clue about him before
He will be coaching the Cowboys next year
@@jaknap1 nah jj likes hiring older experienced coaches. JJ and Steven run the front office conservatively. They don’t like taking risks
He just maybe better on TV? He's brilliant!!
This conversation transcends football. Great insights on self reflection, taking care of others, and navigating internal turmoil when things don't go as planned. Love this podcast!
“There’s been a little ready fire aim in NY” is a perfect saying for the Jets
Please get Coach Parcells on one of these. You want to talk about building a culture and accountability. One of the best ever
He's a little long in the tooth now and may not be in interview shape but i agree with you!
@ahuxley123 Haven't seen much parcelles lately could be true
I think I last saw Parcells on the "A football life" episode on Bill Belichick. He is getting up there but the mind still seemed sharp.
DUDE IS OLD AND PRETTY MUCH ONE FOOT IN THE GRAVE
GET DIRK RICHTER!
Loved him on the Manningcast where he said that he wouldn't have seen all of Peyton's rookie interceptions, because he would have shot himself after 14 (or some number in the teens).
Lombo loves throwing shots and bill somehow finds a way to agree without doing the same its great. I think lombo voices what bill is actually thinking without putting him in a position to say stuff he doesn't want to
Felger & Mazz (Boston sports radio) hav been saying this for months. I believe it too
yep
@@nickmax123if you listened to the GM show all summer you could pretty much tell he was speaking for bill lol.
The most insightful, brutally honest and human conversation on the dark side of the football life to grace the internet.
Wow. This is a great episode, very surprised to hear Bill talk about stuff like this. Some people read Bill Belichick so wrong man, the guy is awesome
Bill is happy to see that sh*tshow on the jets
Nah, he is over that. He proved his point to the Jets/Fans/Media
Bill said that the culture problem has to exist somewhere in ownership, personnel and/or coaching. He says he doesn't know who, but I bet he knows where specifically the problem is - some goofball who makes shit decisions over and over again.
@@chrisleo6639 it's clearly the owner, of course
The one constant is the owner. There was a leak last year that Woody calls the HC daily to make suggestions based on what he read on the internet. You can’t attract a strong leader coaching when the owner is meddling and undermining behind the scenes.
Now it's Ambassador Woody Johnson 😂
0:45 “or……..whoever” good catch, Bill!
People talking about Bill going to the Jets don't know how lowly he thinks of the organization. I don't think Bill is going back at all. He's already known as the greatest coach of all time, and he's clearly enjoying his life now and has a 25 year old girlfriend.
Not with Rogers there also. He is the anti-Brady. Me first people with declining skills are great for turning a team around.
He wants to pass Shula for all-time wins
@@hands575 take another decade to get there with the jets
You can bet your house he would never coach the jets. However he’s certainly going to be a coach in the NFL next year
He'll coach again, for sure. Not the Jets though. There are some that think that it's possible, but anyone who has paid attention to Bill over the years knows it would never, ever be the Jets.
I can't believe it's 2024 and Bill just rewinds 50 years worth of football games and pulled a game out of his mental library from 1974, ....with details.
And I don't even remember what happened yesterday.😂
I just love this show.
Thank you gentlemen. Much appreciated.
This level of content and insight just isn’t available anywhere else. Please for the love of god keep making it!!
"I resign as HC of the NYJ" echoing in my head for the whole clip.
Watching Bill B critique Jets ownership and culture is fascinating on so many levels. And not even the most die hard Jets fan can say he's wrong.
Looks like Coach won't be offered the Jets job.
he knew 24 years ago that Johnsons were going to be bad owners and bailed... As a Jets fan after the last 5 years, in retrospect, I can't fault Bill for leaving after 24 hours. I hope that Saleh will be a great head coach somewhere else like Todd Bowles, Rex Ryan, Bill Belichick, Pete Carroll [they all have better win % and more success after leaving the jets and being a HC somewhere else ] .
I can’t believe how much I love these 30 minutes as a Colts fan. Much respect!
"Getting fired from the JETS might not be the worse thing of all"
He has a lot of well-polished digs he keeps getting in in that direction.
...this is true .....!
@@didgruntleddansnyderfan BILL WANTS THIS JOB, IF THE JETS CLEANS HOUSE. JETS MANAGEMENT HAVE THE REST THE SEASON TO TURN IT AROUND OR ELSE ITS BILL'S JOB. THIS WAS A PRESENTATION.
@@donovanc.7484you do know the history of Bill and the Jets, right? He wouldn’t take that job for an ownership stake
Wow. This podcast is exceptionally good 💯. TY, gents.
There is a reason Bill only stayed as Head Coach of the Jets for a day. He knows 'The Ambassador' is the problem.
Is that his official title even though he not in that role anymore
I can listen to these three all day
I’m still shocked as a Jet fan, not only do I feel bad for Saleh but more so for us. This guy was building something, culture was changing, players were developing. I can’t believe Woody can be so clueless as an owner.
Huh? Team has huge numbers of penalties, team gets embarrassed over and over due to being outcoached, team consistently is not ready to play at the opening whistle, scheme is never adjusted mid game. I could go on for days. Saleh fired himself. He's a great DC. He's not a head coach right now, maybe never.
Honestly these 3 are absolutely brilliant ! So well spoken, so insightful. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Love contrast of Lombardi and Bill. Lombardi is as direct and blunt as you are going to get. Bill is so smart, but diplomatic. Bill will subtly and succinctly tell you how good or bad he thinks something is without giving anyone a sound bite for people to rage against.
All the insight into what actually happens for the coach and his staff after a situation like this is so great to get. Easier to feel empathy when you learn more about the role and how it can look for them.
2 in one day? Amazing!
That 1976 Lions vs Pats game Bill was talking about was played 48 years ago tomorrow.
Shout out to Bill Belichick Keepin It Real
This is a great conversation that is applicable far beyond the scope of football.
That story about Detroit was awesome!! And how he connected that with Saleh losing his job in week 5! 😂 I'm so glad we got videos of Bill Belichick reciting NFL lore to us. 😊
Some people pay big dollars for this insight. Coach is got that intensity.
This show is incredible
25:16 MAKE A CLIP OF THIS STORY!! EVERYONE NEEDS TO HEAR THIS
These productions have been unbelievable. Congrats to everyone involved.
Great discussion. So many good points were made, like the need to solve problems, the need to be accountable and to learn from mistakes. Loved that the ending touched on culture and its importance. But when they talked about how it feels to lose a job, to feel like you let your staff and their families down, and how it's important to avoid the bitterness, that was excellent. Keep coaching, gentlemen...
Very mature conversation from all sides. I really enjoyed it.
This is the best channel on RUclips bar none. Simply brilliant!
What a great episode. I love when the three of you get into the behind the scenes stuff of an nfl team. The talk about culture was amazing!!!
From central Mass I used to tune in to Cleveland sports radio when Bill was there. I would get so pissed listening to those people call in.and the way they treated him. I still think Cleveland football is cursed because of the way Bill was treated there.
No, they are screwed because they have passed on multiple franchise QBs in the first round. The original Browns Organization became the Baltimore Ravens.
@@swishdipper4362 lol
Really insightful and honest. Thanks for sharing the human side of what you all go through
To Mike's point about guys thinking about their next job: This is a massive time for the interim coach to step in as a leader and connect the quality of the work they do NOW to the future they're worried about. As a surgical residency educator who has to command people leaving the hospital every year, it's critical to emphasize that 1) attention to detail in the present accumulates to portable understanding that can impact people in the future and 2) that YOU will have their back throughout that process and will make them the best they can be, and arm them to be great at their next job regardless of what their future holds. An uncertain future is NOT an excuse for a lack of unity, and more often than not, you can shape that future with eliminations of distractions in the present.
Also, awesome story about the two-tight end formation in Detroit by Bill!!! Charlie Sanders knew how to ball, especially with his basketball background.
This show is everything I have always wanted when it comes to football content. Seeing Lombardi and Belichick talk shop is so enlightening compared to the drivel being shelled out by “insiders” across the media.
Bill closing statement, “Will be back next week” and cracking a smile while looking at the camera made my day😃. Who knew Bill had such a vibrant personality?
Best football content out right now.
This was such a good episode thank you guys !!!
Not a huge fan of Saleh but 2-3, play for 1st place this week... Terrible timing. Either before or after the season. Not 1 quarter thru
And its 30min of basically saying, "Its Woody!" without actually saying the words
Yes. Saleh has been wearing a patch of the flag of Lebanon during games. Word is that it angered part of NYC's population.
@@r.williamcomm7693 That's actually an interesting point lol
Yeah. They’re full of it. As are the NFL powers the the.
So as a lifelong Jet fan I absolutely hate Belichick and the patriots more than the devil. I do however have to give these men credit for this discussion. They handled it professionally and spoke the truth, I honestly can’t disagree with anything said here.
Please keep this show going, and don’t tinker with it too much. I love it as is! Great men talking football
This is the best. I don’t know many other ways to tell people this but once you listen, you realize “Oh, this is the best.” Keep going and reaching!
Bill is truly a Patriot. He will always enjoy watching the Jets suffer, the Bills choke or fall short, and the Dolphins put more stock in their perfect season (50 years ago) than the 85 Bears.
100%. Especially because everyone thinks all you need is a franchise QB and you'll win football games... Nope. You can pay WRs $30mil, doesn't matter. Coaching does matter!!!! Players get the job done but if you think an All-Star team will get you 13 wins even with a bad HC, you ain't been watching all these teams underperform year after year.
@@mk-ultramags1107underachieving…exactly why John harbs gotta. Twice in last few yrs BAL owner has said he was close to firing him. Stop waiting and wasting time. There was some great coaches out there.
If there’s any way to coax Coach Gibbs onto this show, that would be incredible
The NFC East was legendary during their shared time
I didn't even think about this but I'm glad to see this show tackling something like this
Appreciate the words about Jets fans. It's been a very tough ride (life) but we will always do our part. You made it tough on us coach, were glad to see you out of NE and I'm glad to Saleh gone.
Great episode, and good of you to donate towards the Hurricane relief effort.
Best episode yet
You guys are amazing. Great segment. Congrats from Romania.
Such a great show and perspective!
Lombardi got some BALLS wearing that hair piece.
LOL, a hair piece with a bald spot? C'mon guy
This is top notch content...not enough people know about this
I swear no one in the NFL actually appreciates the simple fact that someone has to lose. You can have two teams with great culture and everything else, but only one is moving on. A toe could be the difference between being seen as a great team or a bad one. Everything that would have otherwise been seen as great is now a problem. Because of a toe.
Bill at 32:00 getting teary with gratitude in the blink of eye and ripping the Jets in the next breath. That's my coach!
I love these 3 patriots legends! Great show!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
(2:03) - I wasn't aware of this. Yeah, that's an odd reaction and dynamic going on there.
Have Saleh and Rodgers spoken to each other since training camp, or have other staff members just been acting as their go-between message carriers?
First rate video. Please keep them coming.
Awesome show guys. Love the insight
This has crazy production value for a podcast
Great insight on "solving the problem" Mike.
If you are even a slight fan of professional sports, this is 33 minutes of must-listen content
Bill is like an encyclopedia of football. I love listening to him talk
Even though the channel is new, I'm surprised it doesn't already have more subscribers. A lot of uniquely insightful football content, that there should be a huge market for. Need Tirico, Collinsworth, Romo, or Manning, etc. to mention on a broadcast, so more people check this out.
Loved watching this, much respect for Bill, Go Jets!
Love Coach Belichick. Truly the 🐐
Can't say it enough, great show
"Excuse me, sorry to interrupt your show. Bill, Woody Johnson on Line 1..."
I like the new Belichick where he’s doing analysis, podcasts, Mannjng cast, commercials, football talk shows, dressing up for Halloween. I like seeing this Belichick better than him coaching a losing team. He’s a great analyst and a natural in explaining the football part.
I couldn’t find anything on the Detroit formation. Bill did touch on something that some of us casual fans think isn’t possible. It doesn’t matter what a coach is known for. They can coach any position in the field. Bill when he started her wasn’t even a coach. He was a gopher which meant he’d go pick up players from the airport, take care of the field, and whatever the team wanted him to do. He also mentioned in this video that coached the TEs, he was a special teams coach, and DBs coach. Point is these professional coaches can coach any position. Just because the media runs with a coach coaching out of position doesn’t make it true. They just don’t know any better.
Right, like they said, these guys become head coaches now without much experience.
Awesome information about the history of the “Detroit” formation coach!
Whole episode boils down to the importance of culture, then they make the point of how great Bills culture was. Feels like he’s putting it out there to the teams in need of coaches.
23:25 Holy shit Lombo just buried the Jets 😂😂😂
Sid Gillman was a real proponent of the One-Back (12 Personnel) Formation. From what I know of coaches who knew him well, he always felt that one-back was the future. Gibbs from Coryell - Coryell really learned from Gillman, changing from his early work with the I-Formation when that was the new thing to a more pass spread w/ quick power --- all this is always a form of Power Spread. Always - all ways - is the same in this game. Looking to evolve the usage of Space (w/ Timing) and always coming back to the Power - the root of the game in the trenches.
Good story. Shows why bill loves the 2 te sets. That gronk , hernandez combo was deadly. Shame it was cut short
As a jet fan, i didn't see any jet bashing. I heard honesty and knowledge. Im sure he'll land another job and be great at it. I loved his passion. Im not a coach guru, but i think he's a great human being, and that's what really matters. Footballs, football, but i think deeper than the sport. Best of luck, Coach, but i don't think you’ll need any luck. Stand by your principles.
I hope Bill stays on the desk and doesn’t go back to coaching. His genius is so cool. Gives DEEP PERSPECTIVE.
Great story about the Detroit system, thank you Bill
Listening to coaches in non-interview situations is always the best way to learn if you're not in the coaching/playing field directly. That and studying film. I've had the opportunity to listen to a ton of great coaches - HS to College and some Pro. And in my film studies I'd ask questions to the coaches I knew. There are also coaching seminars out there on youtube - you can learn that way as well. Takes time - but truly time well spent if you want to understand this very involved game of football. (great historians out there as well teach a lot about this game from a big perspective).
I could write this every episode ... unbelievable Football knowlege !!! ...you can learn so much from this episodes without the nonsense on other shows
Certain group of New Yorkers were angry at Saleh for wearing the flag of Lebanon during the game in London. Wish it had made him realize he needed to win to stay.
He did? That’s likely why he got fired. We all know who the money and power is behind in that “conflict”.
It is not discussed but it is certainly a subtext for the firing!
@@BrooksKirkbride Agree. Some believe that there's a certain etiquette required of American citizens when traveling abroad. Of course Saleh didn't criticize the US nor any of its allies. He is of Lebanese descent & merely wore the flag of Lebanon. His brother was in the South tower of the WTC on 9/11 & made it out safely. I believe that most Americans aren't aware of the list of 7 nations that were first mentioned for regime change targeting by the PNAC think tank which contained many officials that one year later became prominent in GW Bush's administration one year later or how that PNAC paper regarding defense was adopted almost verbatim as US domestic and foreign policy. It's not about partisan politics because both parties implement most of that paper as policy. At the same time, some Americans who have friends and family in US ally Israel also have concerns & rights to express their opinions. The owner of the Jets was an ambassador to the UK under the Trump administration so Johnson, who has paid many millions to Saleh to be the head coach of the team that he owns might have been more sensitive since the Jets were in London. It took me too long to say it but obviously there's many layers to this issue. The lesson is that anyone in the NFL who uses even passive ways of expressing opinions on certain issues has to win like everyone else in the NFL or will discover Jerry Glanville's infamous quote that NFL stands for "Not for Long." Ppl can criticize Woody Johnson but should also probably give him credit for hiring Saleh in the first place. Honestly, I'm concerned that the US is going to be dragged into an unnecessary foreign war regardless of who is elected our next president. I'm very close to some of the worst damage from Hurricane Helene and it's sad to see ppl suffer when we realize how much money our nation is sending abroad. IMHO we need to use resources to help our own citizens first.
I love this podcast and video!!
The fact that Bill was coaching in the 1970s is just unreal. This man is football.
I wonder what insights Patricia has on being a fired coach for a formerly ineffectual organization with his Lions tenure. Obviously he wasn't able to fulfill the role but you gotta wonder after how hard the Lions restructured what element organizational incompetence played during his time there. He likely has things that him and Saleh could relate on
I love this show because you can tell they love football genuinely
This is a really good show.
I really miss Bill's minimalist press conferences. Best I've ever seen! "How can I say even less next week without being rude?"
That's part of what makes an episode like this so intriguing. From a national perspective we rarely ever saw this side of Coach Belichick casually speaking open and honestly with genuine humanity.
Awesome POVs
And people think bill is going to the jets 😂😂😂😂 he legit hates them so much you can tell
He hates the Jets so much, he wrote his resignation on a fucking tissue haha.
He doesn't hate the Jets. He hates the owner of the Jets. There's a difference.
@@didgruntleddansnyderfan yep which means he hates the jets
The players wanted Robert Saleh to hold Hackett accountable. Saleh tried changing play callers and he got fired because of that.
It's been rumored that the University of Georgia head football coach Kirby Smart will be the Jets next head coach after the season is over
These are serious men breaking down a the dysfunction within a toxic team. I feel better for knowing this is on RUclips.
This show has This Old House vibes. Nostalgic in some ways. I love it.
I'm scrolling thru these comments, and I just had to pause and chuckle at this one.😄 And I'm not even quite sure what it means. Who's playing the role of Tommy Silva... Richard T? The only thing that I can gather is maybe much like Tommy, Richard, and the gang, you also find these guys reflecting a quality, trustworthy craftmanship and know-how and passion in their selected field of profession.
The show is exactly what I expect it to be ! Grown man talking…