i5 13500 - Better Value Than the Ryzen 7 5700X and i5-13600K...?

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  • Опубликовано: 4 авг 2024
  • The i5-13500, intel's latest CPU, is it better than the Ryzen 7 5700X or the i5-13600K? Well in today's review we make a gaming benchmark comparison, and check out power consumption, "Undervolting" as well and lastly productivity like video editing.
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    Chapters
    00:00 i5-13500 Specs, Same cores less cahce
    02:54 1080p, 1440p, 4k, Horizon Zero Dawn
    03:58 CS GO
    04:19 Shadow of the Tomb Raider
    04:34 Cyber Punk 2077
    05:08 Power Consumption and Undervolting, it's not really a thing, but it kind of is, and you can get an extra 100mhz from default! Though why does intel lock undervolting?
    07:37 Productivity Scores, premiere pro, cinebench, power consumption during cinebench and firestrike physics extreme.
    08:24 Conclusion, This or the Ryzen 7 5700X for Gaming? What about the i5 13600K?
    12:47 Question of the Day, Are you going to tinker with the Ryzen 9 7950X3D?
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  • @lordrushiacanyoupleasesayb3263
    @lordrushiacanyoupleasesayb3263 Год назад +88

    Sonic motherboard? Bruh thats fast af

  • @TechIOwn
    @TechIOwn Год назад +2

    Thanks for the review, it really is the all-rounder. Already had a B660 and DDR4 with 12400F so it was the obvious upgrade choice, would've loved a 13600K but in a low profile ML03 I'm already reaching limits with a 65W processor let alone 125W. Keen to hear any more tips about undervolting or cooling as well as the box cooler comparison, I upgraded to a Noctua NH-L12S which just fits under 70mm.
    Also surprised you're only seeing 123W, mine boosts up to over 160W on Cinebench R23 monitored with HWiNFO.

  • @ravenfeather09
    @ravenfeather09 Год назад

    I've been waiting for a review of this one!

  • @outsidein3206
    @outsidein3206 Год назад +3

    Awesome you covered the 13500
    Newer games are likely to benefit from the higher clocked ram, so look for that in future benchmarks in newer titles.
    As for the undervolt issue.
    Some time ago, years, it was mentioned that a combination of software, possibly even windows scheduler? power / precision boost technologies? (could be very wrong on any one of those parts) would be able to do an auto tune. A sort of automatic overclock if there was head room with power and cooling so thermal throttling. Any one of those maybe what's responsible to circumvent the undervolting.
    *Some uber geek, who's been following this particular aspect of computing, maybe able to add in more info than a few scraps that i can barely recall reading or watching sometime ago.

  • @kesamek8537
    @kesamek8537 Год назад +90

    A multi-part undervolting tutorial series for gpu/RAM/cpu to get 'best framerate per watt' would be super interesting and valuable for all 'efficiency build' enthusiasts.

    • @twhelan22
      @twhelan22 Год назад +2

      Would love to see this also!

    • @Heinz76Harald
      @Heinz76Harald Год назад +1

      Bry, task to be done here!

    • @techyescity
      @techyescity  Год назад +21

      I will get onto this next month, I will also get the Nvidia undervolting tutorial done too.

  • @VictorLonmo
    @VictorLonmo Год назад +2

    Great video. The 13500 may have been announced at the beginning of January but here in Canada finding one has been a bit of a trick.

    • @robertt9342
      @robertt9342 Год назад

      As a Canadian, they are Extremely easy to find.

  • @cowsnap
    @cowsnap Год назад

    Thank you for his video. Not much coverage on these value CPUs. Much appreciated.

  • @ehabkaio2607
    @ehabkaio2607 Год назад

    thx for the review
    I was wondering wich of both am5/13th gen is more stable and easyer to build for first time builders and for am5 should I try to find a memory kit with expo? or xmp kits will work without issuse

  • @tetox450
    @tetox450 Год назад +3

    hey Brian great video! those two are awesome bang for buck cpus, i would love to see some content about tuning the ryzen 5700x with project hydra

  • @vedrisca
    @vedrisca Год назад +3

    Like you hinted at in the video, it's a multi-dimensional issue when you're factoring use-case, form-factor, price-to-performance, etc.
    From my personal experience, I'm using a 5700X in an ASRock DeskMeet X300 (not the DeskMiniX300, which practically demands an iGPU to function). Even with undervolting, the setup thermally throttles in intense games due to the PSU's fan also functioning as an intake to the rest of the system, essentially pumping hot air into the CPU cooler (this happens regardless of the cooler you use, as it's the PSU's and case's design that leads to this). If you're running on a microATX or a larger ITX system, you likely will not encounter any thermal throttling at all by luxury of having a much larger cooler to work with, as well as a less constricted case design (if you choose your cases well). The 5700X could very likely run well on a flat-facing HTPC chassis, and even overclocked pulls about as much as 78W from the wall.
    It's a really efficient CPU for gaming, and even with an average level of cooling, likely gets only as far up as the mid-80s Celsius when performing at its highest levels for hours on end. But when you need power in an extremely small package while working on an energy budget (due to PSU constraints), the 5700X will give you precisely that and more if you decide to upgrade your PSU and allow for some overclocking (it's essentially a hyper-efficient 5800X). If you can't compromise on thermals and noise, the 5600X is better.
    That being said, if you do productivity tasks more and more often, the 13500F isn't a compromise so much as it is a necessity. Paying 60$ for a tool that could help you generate hundreds of dollars more is a no-brainer decision at that point.

  • @akafede4351
    @akafede4351 Год назад +8

    Ive got a 5700x at 160eur on black Friday, had the money to buy something more powerful, at first I was like oh I should have gone i5 13k, until the cpu arrived, It meets and excels my needs for now and in the foreseeable future without breaking the bank, I love it. Also, I do use it for virtualization, and it gets benefits over a mature platform and having more cores. Pd: Man I think that 4090 has the fan misaligned, check that out.

  • @xxzmk
    @xxzmk Год назад

    Hey Br. How is the Idle Power Consumption on these. I want to build a mini itx pc with this one on the stock cooler just for coding a little heavy stuff with 64gb of ram. Will it juice alot or are power consumptions of about 20w realistic on idle ?

  • @stawz_
    @stawz_ Год назад +7

    Im definitely keeping an eye on this for a new build, I like the extra threads and better low fps in games. It also got a small price cut where I live, and while b760 boards can be pricey, the feature set on the nicer models is quite good

  • @ukmachinehead
    @ukmachinehead Год назад

    Brian I am thinking of buying a 13400 new computer but wondering if I should get 16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 5200MHz (2 x 8GB) instead of 16GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)?
    The system with the DDR5 is like £165 more but it has a better motherboard also.
    Which would you recommend I get out of the 2? Also anyone else opinions would be good to hear. Thanks.

  • @alteans
    @alteans Год назад +1

    Which board you recommend with this cpu? I need to upgrade my old 4790.. its kinda dying slowly on the Fallout 4 with 300 mod..very sluggish 😒

  • @MarcoGPUtuber
    @MarcoGPUtuber Год назад +49

    There definitely needs to be a t3, t5, t7 naming scheme to show how much Tech YES Value exists.

    • @Willbme4EVA
      @Willbme4EVA Год назад +3

      that is a good idea, but pot3, pot5, pot7 on a potato scale would be easy on the eyes

  • @CarloHusmillo
    @CarloHusmillo Год назад

    the comparison I needed. been planning to build new PC!

  • @LustralYT
    @LustralYT Год назад +12

    Been running a 13500, Z790, DDR5 6000Mhz , RTX 4080 in an ITX build since beginning of Jan. Lovely little CPU. Does everything well with a dinky CPU cooler.

    • @drumyogi9281
      @drumyogi9281 Год назад

      Out of curiosity why a Z board and not a B?

    • @LustralYT
      @LustralYT Год назад +1

      @@drumyogi9281 I got this board as a replacement from Asus as my previous Z690i had the common faulty M.2 secondary port. If I had to buy it from new, I'd prolly would have gone for the B760I ROG Strix

    • @viewzone958
      @viewzone958 8 месяцев назад

      bro which one cpu cooler you use

    • @LustralYT
      @LustralYT 8 месяцев назад

      @@viewzone958 I use a Noctua L9i-LGA1700 Chromax Black, been going strong for almost a year now.

    • @ItaxchiUchiha
      @ItaxchiUchiha 7 месяцев назад

      How can u run 6000mhz if CPU supports upto 4800

  • @dianaalyssa8726
    @dianaalyssa8726 Год назад

    Oh nice, Glad you did this one. Not sure I will upgrade yet, Am sitting pretty with 32gb ddr4 though and mostly play mmos and emulation/steam titles.

  • @pbjames
    @pbjames Год назад

    Can someone explain how the iGPU helps editing because I don't really understand if you have a dedicated GPU

  • @keel3r433
    @keel3r433 Год назад +1

    I don't know about everyone else, but I don't know much about overclocking/undervolting, I would love to watch a video going in depth into everything about overclocking and/or undervolting if you want to make it for us

  • @sxsoutcast7651
    @sxsoutcast7651 Год назад +2

    I'd love to see an undervolt video with the ASRock mobo. I'm not having any good luck with my z690 i5-13600 with this.

  • @muramusan
    @muramusan Год назад +6

    Would have been awesome to know what budget GPU would be good for premier pro or even just seeing what frames would be compared to other cpus in the market.

    • @cael9844
      @cael9844 Год назад

      Find a gpu with 6gb + vram and cuda cores above 2000

  • @jameshare1848
    @jameshare1848 Год назад +12

    I went for a 13600k with DDR5 6000 and the system is solid. I've been running it for 4 months. Not had a single crash / blue screen / USB issue

    • @zenithchan1646
      @zenithchan1646 Год назад

      You should’ve gone with a 7700 or x than 13600k

    • @jameshare1848
      @jameshare1848 Год назад +14

      @@zenithchan1646 No I shouldn't. I went for what I wanted. I'm not really impressed with the new Ryzen platform. And the ryzen 3600x and B450 I had before moving back to intel was complete garbage.

    • @Zombie101
      @Zombie101 Год назад

      @@jameshare1848 plus battle mage is coming and raptor refresh! i think

    • @theeggbreadguy3799
      @theeggbreadguy3799 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@zenithchan1646nah mate, those damn boards and DDR5 rams are so expensive where I live compared to intel

  • @edwardelric8966
    @edwardelric8966 Год назад

    hey man i'm trying to build a budget pc. so i'm thinking about 12100f vs 12400f and the overall build will be about more than $100 US price difference. I'd play at 1440p and the graphics card will be RTX 3060 ti. Will I get away with a 12100f instead? I don't do other things aside from CAD and maybe try to learn a bit of coding as well. But yea mainly will be for gaming.

  • @dukejukem8843
    @dukejukem8843 11 месяцев назад

    I was thinking of pairing a 13500 with an A770 for 1080p 144hz gaming with a little boost to install times etc. Is the 13500 overkill for what I want? Will a 13400 or 13700 be worthwhile?

  • @TheFourthWinchester
    @TheFourthWinchester Год назад

    I'm not getting any notification from your channel though I have subscribed to be notified to all videos.

  • @cptwhite
    @cptwhite Год назад +34

    The 5700X is significantly cheaper here in the UK, £245 for the 13500 vs £180 for the 5700X. B550 boards are also not too bad around £90 for a Gigabyte DS3H variant, so I'd probably go Ryzen, if it were a gaming focussed system for the UK market....

    • @eclipsegst9419
      @eclipsegst9419 Год назад +10

      please do not buy a DS3H, the quality is random-chinese-aliexpress-motherboard tier.

    • @starwars1357
      @starwars1357 Год назад +6

      bro buy ASRock B550M PRO4 or something a little bit better than ds3h

    • @twhelan22
      @twhelan22 Год назад +2

      Ideally need a board with BIOS flashback for the 5700X to be safe, since it came out much later in the cycle. Gigabyte B550 AORUS ELITE V2 is £130, if you hunt around there are probably cheaper options (e.g. Asus TUF GAMING B450-PLUS II for £100 if you don't care about PCIe 4.0). The cooler market looks a bit expensive here at the moment, however.
      As for the 13500, the cheapest B660 here seems to be £108, so not $60 as suggested in the video, and ideally you'd want better features than that (BIOS flashback again etc). NZXT's Z690 is only £155 atm so I'd start there as a maximum spend and see if you can find something cheaper.
      Realistically you're probably saving just the cost of the CPU with the 5700X build assuming you are fine with the 13th gen box cooler. It's still quite a bit extra though and I do agree that the AMD build makes more sense for gamers. If you're changing the cooler either way the Intel build is probably at least £100 more expensive.

    • @eclipsegst9419
      @eclipsegst9419 Год назад +2

      @@twhelan22 I picked up an MSI DDR4 Z690 for 120, and I've seen Asus and Gigabyte UD for around the same on sale. I think in general if you have AM4 5K series is a no brainier, if you have Intel 6-11th gen, 12/13th gen on DDR4 is a no brainier. Building all new it's a toss up. Intel Z690 DDR5 cost less than most AM5 boards so I would give that a slight edge. And if you can use them, the little cores really do put in work and are basically free considering the price of an i5 has been 300 since 10th gen.

    • @AndrewTSq
      @AndrewTSq Год назад +2

      same in sweden, the 13500 is more expensive than a 12600k here also. the 5700x is $90 cheaper, or a 5600x is like $110 cheaper

  • @Willbme4EVA
    @Willbme4EVA Год назад

    Oh yes Bro! I have been waiting for this. My Friday Night Sugar!

  • @MoDzAudio
    @MoDzAudio Год назад +1

    I just finally pulled the trigger and ordered the 5800x3D to upgrade my 2700x. I've been waiting for awhile and it dropped to $300 US so I grabbed it before there all out of stock for good. The 5800x was on sale to at the same time for $200 US I was gonna get that first to save some money but it quickly went out of stock at that price. Either way I would of been happy with either and I can't wait to use it and finally use that extra PCIE 4.0 speeds as I transfer very large file sizes on the regular.

  • @duplicationavoid5071
    @duplicationavoid5071 Год назад +5

    Hi bryan, recently I've noticed that you can undervolt any 13th gen CPU without losing performance after changing the CPU microcode to version 104 (this takes a bit of effort), and this is very easy if you are using an ASUS motherboard since they allow you to change the microcode directly in the BIOS (advanced settings --> tweaker's paradise). By doing this you can undervolt the CPU as much as you want. Would love to hear you talk about this method : )

    • @p_mcg
      @p_mcg Год назад +1

      Really good to know, thanks!

    • @zhuzhu9599
      @zhuzhu9599 Год назад

      other Mother board dont have such settings?

  • @ysnyldrm73
    @ysnyldrm73 9 месяцев назад

    I have this cpu, with box cooler, aida64 cpu testt, 40 to 100 degree less than 1 sec. Turning off the turbo boost, temperatures at 60ish, what is the problem?

  • @ivantsipr
    @ivantsipr Год назад

    Did you tried it on the B660m Steel Legend?

  • @jshico3417
    @jshico3417 Год назад +1

    when running ddr4 did you run it gear1?

  • @n9ne
    @n9ne Год назад

    are the ryzen 7000x3d reviews releasing later today??

  • @Mrrrs
    @Mrrrs Год назад

    can you please tell me the most budget video editing pc setup with the i5 13500k? which motherboard, gpu, ...

  • @stevenparker790
    @stevenparker790 Год назад

    Great video,

  • @chiptoothtech4937
    @chiptoothtech4937 Год назад

    LOVE THE VIDEO BRIAN !!! ^_^!

  • @markusjohansson8879
    @markusjohansson8879 Год назад

    This does look interesting! Sadly the inflation has hit Sweden hard, one of the biggest retail stores for tech announced the “deal” of the week, a 6800xt for 1050 usd. It would be interesting to know from viewers what the prices are in their respective country!

    • @mchonkler7225
      @mchonkler7225 Год назад

      Are you able to buy directly from AMD's site? They have 6950xt's for $699.

  • @poshpaul55
    @poshpaul55 9 месяцев назад

    Super great review👍👍 im buying this Cpu in moving from a i7 9700k which has been a brilliant Cpu over the years my little sister is getting my motherboard and the cpu as she still running an i5 2500K and im giving her my gtx 970 Gpu and im running a rtx 3070 at the moment i hope i will see a improvement

  • @robertt9342
    @robertt9342 Год назад +22

    While this isn’t what I would always recommend to others, I went with a new AM4 build. I did this because I was trying to maximize the performance I could get while only spending a certain amount. I couldn’t justify the new platforms for my use case.
    I purchased a “decent” ram and motherboard for $100 Canadian, around 75 USD.
    I went with the 5700x, but it think the 5600x was the better value buy at the time, I just wanted the extra cores if I need them down the road, but probably won’t.
    It should hold me for a few years and the money saved can be put toward gpu upgrades and new platforms later on.

    • @kotztotz3530
      @kotztotz3530 Год назад +3

      Getting ram and a motherboard for $75 USD is crazy. Nice steal!

    • @shiftto
      @shiftto Год назад

      clearify motherboard name please!

    • @robertt9342
      @robertt9342 Год назад

      @@shiftto . Asrock b450m pro4

  • @Dan-xy8li
    @Dan-xy8li Год назад

    Question: In many of the FPS charts there is an i3 12100 nestled with the i5 and Ryzen 5700... what's that about :)

  • @prabhakardhar1379
    @prabhakardhar1379 Год назад

    I'm gonna buy this processor, what will be the cheapest best ddr4 mobo for this cpu and how to archive stable 4.5ghz all core boost even in stock box cooler on it?

  • @yinitialize4930
    @yinitialize4930 Год назад

    is this cpu take less power when its idleing or doing some very small task, because i run nodes 24/7 i need a cpu that is most efficient and 5700 certainly has that over 13500

  • @haschwalthall
    @haschwalthall Год назад

    Keep it up nice video

  • @ghosttheoremproductions5469
    @ghosttheoremproductions5469 Год назад

    Is there a Linux kernel that can properly utilize E-Cores yet? I know there's been ongoing work to support Intel's Thread Director but last I checked the E-Cores were pretty much a waste for Linux users.

  • @Pabula
    @Pabula Год назад +2

    Very interesting news about 13gen not allowing undervolting. Any chance you could test with an MSI Z690/Z790 CPU LITE LOAD? i see other videos where the undervolting of a 13700k / 13600k and it seems to work fine, maybe MSI allows via that settings the undervolting??? RUclips doesnt allow me to link you videos, but search for the following tittles
    - Intel 13th Gen i5 13600K Undervolting | MSI Z690 - CPU Lite Load
    - Intel 13th Gen i7 13700K Undervolting | CPU Lite Load Air Cooler

    • @mircomputers
      @mircomputers Год назад +1

      yes Msi is the only vendor that has easy undervolt settings for 12 and 13 gen, some tweaks on loadline i am still not sure about . I have many videos on my channel

  • @HardWhereHero
    @HardWhereHero Год назад

    if you had a 12400 would you got to this or a used i9 12900 or 12700?

  • @rudramukherjee9979
    @rudramukherjee9979 6 месяцев назад

    Can you suggest me a Budget motherboard for i5 13500?

  • @DamianNocun
    @DamianNocun Год назад +1

    can I use DDR5 6000MHz with this processor ? on official site of intel is stated that max 4800MHz which is strange...I can see you used it normally :)

  • @Almahdi.
    @Almahdi. Год назад

    A graphics card that runs Android emulator games only and DX 11, 12 and 9 games do not work until I installed it on another motherboard, the same problem and I updated the bios and nothing changed. I want to know what is the problem with the graphics card
    Evga 1060 6g SSC

  • @pickledbeaker5916
    @pickledbeaker5916 Год назад +2

    Gotta change the cooler though, even a simple 20$ one will do. Drop max temp on Passmark from 99 to 70 for me. Also got rid of freezes during gaming

  • @shanksisnoteventhatstrongbruh
    @shanksisnoteventhatstrongbruh Год назад +12

    $190 CPU + $70 RAM + $100 Board = $350 for the 5700X + B550 + 32gb (2x16) 3600 C18 SR combo.
    Killer value for gaming.

    • @marsovac
      @marsovac Год назад +1

      you can even go with a B450, since PCIE 4 does not change much (you won't be using a PCIE 4 SSD in a low end system, and there is barely a measurable difference for GPUs) and save 30$ more.

    • @thefurmidablecatlucky3
      @thefurmidablecatlucky3 Год назад +2

      That's $360 bruh

    • @tilapiadave3234
      @tilapiadave3234 Год назад

      $100 board that will burn within a week?

    • @tilapiadave3234
      @tilapiadave3234 Год назад

      @@thefurmidablecatlucky3 12600k $220 B660 $120 RAM $60 ,,, $400 and its ANNIAHALATES the 5700x

    • @tilapiadave3234
      @tilapiadave3234 Год назад

      Absolute RUBBISH

  • @marcusbuschbeck1121
    @marcusbuschbeck1121 Год назад +3

    In January i bought a new 5700X for an used X570 and also used 3070. It seems the best Value for 200€ for me. Coming from i7 2600. The cooler (Zalman CNPS 9900 Max) works fine on the Ryzen! I don't notice any CPU Problems while Gaming in FHD maxed out settings (gpu bound). For me, it was the right decission. This 13500 came out too late for a decission. The Intel 12 th CPUs under 200€ don't were attractive to me.

  • @Pbenter
    @Pbenter Год назад

    Just bought Win 11 using your code! Thanks!

  • @bmanrockwell2174
    @bmanrockwell2174 Год назад

    I do want to see what you can get the 7950X3D to do. Ty!

  • @Pharesm
    @Pharesm Год назад +2

    Talking about budget, I saw people saying that this Intel CPU takes a lot less power, which surely should reduce cost - especially given the rise in energy prices...

  • @kronosreni9910
    @kronosreni9910 Год назад

    thanks for such relevant content, going with 13500 for blender use

  • @alexrose1ukv2
    @alexrose1ukv2 Год назад +3

    So realistically my 12400 BCLK OC'd to 5GHz all core, with memory at 3375C16 (3600C16 downlocked due to the locked mem controller volts) is going to stomp all over the 13400/13500 except in productivity tasks and memory bottlenecked tasks, as cannot see them making up the 500MHz CPU clock differential even with a little more cache and e-cores.
    Would be really interesting to see you bring out the old BCLK OC 12400 and compare against the new CPUs and titles!

    • @millmount6092
      @millmount6092 Год назад

      12400 BCLK is only possible on certain motherboards right?

    • @alexrose1ukv2
      @alexrose1ukv2 Год назад

      @@millmount6092 yes unfortunately. MSI Mortar Max and Asrock Riptide PG are the ones I remember.

    • @millmount6092
      @millmount6092 Год назад

      @@alexrose1ukv2 Ok i don't think i'll benefit much with an oc, i mainly play slow story driven games, 12400 paired with 6750xt, next time i'll upgrade is perhaps 2-3 years from now with am5/am6, there is no cpu on LGA1700 13'th gen that will give me a big fps improvement when taking in the money i have to pay.

    • @alexrose1ukv2
      @alexrose1ukv2 Год назад +1

      @@millmount6092 yes, in some titles, the difference between 4ghz and 5ghz all core is noticeable but it really depends on the games you play and how high refresh rate etc I'm on a 3080 and the difference in minimum frametimes Vs at stock and Vs my old 10700k was noticeable though, especially as I have a 165hz screen where stutter can be really noticeable at times

  • @yttean98
    @yttean98 Год назад

    which best-value B660M motherboard that would accept this 13th gen 13500 CPU without upgrading the firmware?

  • @GewelReal
    @GewelReal Год назад

    What about undervolting through XTU?

  • @Zetraxes
    @Zetraxes Год назад

    but cant you slap this one on a B660 motherboard like for instance MSI PRO B660m-A

  • @JohnBraman413
    @JohnBraman413 Год назад

    do a budget streaming setup with latest cpu's and gpu's that work well together. a best bang for the buck setup.

  • @ameliabuns4058
    @ameliabuns4058 Год назад +2

    I think I'll go with the 13500! 80CAD saved hmm I wonder if it's worth it

  • @kamata93
    @kamata93 Год назад +5

    Im actually planning to upgrade from i7 8700 to the 13500. I really liked the TUF Gaming B760M DDR5 version. Will pair it with a decent 6000 mhz RAM. Its time to retire the good old i7.

    • @JonaHildebrand
      @JonaHildebrand 10 месяцев назад

      Ahh im doing exactly the same, gonna find out the following week

    • @ShadowC379
      @ShadowC379 6 месяцев назад

      sow how is it I want to do the same

  • @GearSeekers
    @GearSeekers Год назад +4

    The 13500 is an awesome little chip!

  • @senil5906
    @senil5906 Год назад

    Hello, I also have a question, will i5-13500 work with ddr5-5600mhz G1, on Mb Gigabyte Z690 UD AX?
    Thank you!

    • @Nightdare
      @Nightdare Год назад

      Yes it will work, but you should not run 13500's above 3433 Mhz memory clock
      it'll actually cost performance (as shown in the benchmarks)

  • @BuddyPickleball
    @BuddyPickleball Год назад

    Yes can you do an undervolt video for 13500 and 13600k

  • @unitybeing777
    @unitybeing777 Год назад

    Love u, cover 7800X3D when released.

  • @Russell-kz7ee
    @Russell-kz7ee Год назад

    Great work man really useful, and f**k all those Ytuber who don't provide 4k benchmarks xD

  • @plavanbarua7260
    @plavanbarua7260 Год назад

    I am planning to upgrade my cpu from i5 8600k to i5 13500, since my budget is tight at the moment I will be using my old Zotac RTX 2060 AMP 6GB so is this combo okay for 1080p gaming without any performance issues due to bottlenecking??

    • @SomeRandomGuy121
      @SomeRandomGuy121 10 месяцев назад

      GPU maybe wont push too hard, CPU should be fine. Im runnning an 15 13600kf with no turbo. 3..5ghz and a evga 2060 super sc edition n its doing fine. The GPU struggles in newer titles a little, CPU doesn't budge, cant say ive seen any bottlenecking so far.

  • @binusworldoftechnology5867
    @binusworldoftechnology5867 Год назад

    Went with 12400f, EU is cheaper around 90 euros. Put it inside a b660m Asus bclk OC ed to 5ghz, no problem. Great video btw!

    • @lenny6313
      @lenny6313 Год назад

      so u can oc non k with special mb bios reight

  • @rolandm9750
    @rolandm9750 Год назад +4

    TBH even the 13400 is about even with a $250 CAD 5700X (slightly worse in gaming, slightly better in other stuff), BUT even the F version costs ~$40-50 more (at least in Canada). 12600KF is actually cheaper than the 13400F these days with the 12600K costing almost the same as the 13400F...and the older CPU is the better one, plus it can be OC'd. The 12400 is finally cheaper than the 5700X by ~$20 but it's not as good. 13600KF is at another level of pricing ($400) so no point talking about it in this market segment. Anyway point is if a 13400F is already ~$280...well the 13500 costs $350, a full $100 more than a 5700X, with perhaps an F version selling at $320 or so (though I don't see one for sale yet). In any event the 12600K/F seems the best value for LGA1700 in some regards, though the extra cores of the 13500 make it the better performer albeit at around $50 more.
    There's a couple other things to mention though... One is motherboards are, by and large, pretty expensive these days. If you want to buy an ITX board for example, almost all of them are pricey. For a Z690 board you're looking at $250 or so minimum. Then the other problem is DDR4 LGA1700 boards seem to be disappearing in favour of DDR5...which is mostly more expensive than DDR4. The only way to get a cheaper board is to go used... Used LGA1700 boards, ppl still ask a lot of money for these, so there's almost no point buying used. AM4 OTOH, lots of ppl are offloading these boards now for cheap! I was able to get an X370 ITX board for $80 this way, which is basically 1/3rd what I'd pay for a new ITX board of any chipset.
    Finally, buying a 5700X nets you a code for a COH3, which if you sell for even ~$40 or so, is icing on the cake (or if you want that game, still icing).
    So even if you *don't* have a board for either, not only is the 5700X a cheaper CPU brand new than everything but a 12400, (which is worse), you can get a used AM4 motherboard far cheaper than you can get a new or used LGA1700 board. In the end though I was thinking about a 13400 or 12600K, I just couldn't justify what would end up being hundreds of dollars more in *overall* cost just for a bit better performance and a platform that's not deemed a "dead end" by all those nutjobs always going on about "future proofing" instead of things they actually need and will use. Perhaps the prices of Raptor Lake CPUs (and boards) will drop towards the end of the year but for now the 5700X is effectively much cheaper and nearly as good as the lower priced 13xxx alternatives.

  • @something__random
    @something__random Год назад +2

    Shouldn't you have tested with DDR4 at 3466? Above this it goes to gear 2 reducing performance.

  • @DaddyBleach
    @DaddyBleach Год назад +24

    In the us the 5700x has regularly been on sale for sub $200 multiple times with a free game so at this point I still think the 5700x is a better value if you're already on am4 or you can get a cheap set of ddr4 and a b450 board.

    • @robertt9342
      @robertt9342 Год назад +4

      To me it came down to how much I wanted to invest for now. I couldn’t justify the newer platforms. Motherboard (decent) and ram came to $100 Canadian, around 75 usd.
      Also the free game i got is something I wanted so that was a bonus.

    • @-opus
      @-opus Год назад +1

      I played the game for half an hour before uninstalling it because it is cr*p, happy with the 5700x though undervolted -30

    • @robertt9342
      @robertt9342 Год назад +1

      @@-opus . What game?

    • @-opus
      @-opus Год назад

      @@robertt9342 I got Uncharted Legacy of Thieves with mine, I thought it was terrible. Currently they are offering Company of Heroes with 5000 series cpus. Bit of a pity they don't offer a choice of games.

    • @basshead.
      @basshead. Год назад

      @@robertt9342 Company of Heroes 3.

  • @vinyfiny
    @vinyfiny Год назад +18

    I recently upgraded my i3-12100 to a 12700f. I picked a 12700f over the 13500 because the 12700f was cheaper ($230 used), has SLIGHTLY more cache (1MB more😆), and although they both have 20 threads the i7 has 16 P-core threads while the 13500 only has 12 P-core threads. Depending on price and your CPU needs, a 12th gen processor might actually be a better buy vs a similarly priced 13th gen processor.

    • @baoquoc3710
      @baoquoc3710 Год назад +1

      also you have BCLK tuning which you can set your desired stock clock higher than out of the box speed, 13th gen was locked out of this feature except the K-series

    • @Silent_Tentacle
      @Silent_Tentacle Год назад +1

      way higher base and maximum wattage power though. You'd pay that much in bills in 6 months over using 13500 I think

    • @vinyfiny
      @vinyfiny Год назад

      ​@@Silent_Tentacle Electricity is like $0.13/kWh where I live. A few extra idle watts will take a few years to match the difference in cost.

    • @Hvanudetfornoget
      @Hvanudetfornoget Год назад +1

      @@vinyfiny Ive been paying quadruple kwh price and this is def something im interested in avoiding. thx bros

  • @yukisnoww
    @yukisnoww Год назад

    i got my cousin a 1yr old 5800x w/ warranty valid still for US$175, only reason why i didnt get a 5700x for $15 cheap brand new. For his mobo, we managed to find a 2nd hand x570 aorus xtreme for US$180 (cuz it had no box, slight scratches on the heatsink only too). we got CL14 3600mhz 16gb RAM T-force extreem too for $70 as well. Very nice..

  • @MrSamadolfo
    @MrSamadolfo Год назад

    🙂 i saw a review on that cpu on another channel, me mentioned that the 13400 is a different cpu and that the 500 is a better option, me personally I would just wait for xmas end of year sales and pickup either the i5kf or i7kf

    • @WayStedYou
      @WayStedYou Год назад

      It is.
      The 13500 is a cutdown 13600k the 13400 has half the ecores and less cache

  • @ciri1058
    @ciri1058 Год назад

    Planning to buy this cpu, thanks tech yes City

  • @josephnaz1086
    @josephnaz1086 Год назад +1

    Are you going to look if it's worth to pair the i5 13500 with H610 motherboards ?

  • @philiprobar
    @philiprobar Год назад +2

    The buried lead here is that for most games which modern CPU you pick doesn’t really matter. With middle to highest settings even the i3-12100 isn’t a bottleneck.

  • @alialmarefi1358
    @alialmarefi1358 Год назад

    Which CPU from Ryzen equal Intel i5 13500 in the same value of specifications?

  • @darrooxx
    @darrooxx Год назад

    When is there a video coming of undervolting a Core i710700k with mis motherboard.

  • @guillelopez8185
    @guillelopez8185 Год назад

    I understand that in order to obtain the most accurate resuslts u need to use a most overkill GPU,
    but being honest whoever buys a 13500 wont paired with an RTX 4090, perhaps the most fair comparison would be
    somewhere betwin RTX 3060 and 4070 or RX 6700 and 6800 or 6900
    Good video and effort,
    Thx

  • @MarcoGPUtuber
    @MarcoGPUtuber Год назад +5

    The Sonic Motherboard definitely goes fast and gives you more FPS. It's scientifically proven.
    And it's blue.

  • @Jwalker76
    @Jwalker76 Год назад +2

    Originally I thought the 13500 wasn't a good deal. In part because of how bad the stock coolers have been in the past and really needing an aftermarket cooler. The other thing I've seen with non K series processors has been that they have had limited boast in the past. I have a i5 11400F and it runs at 4.2Ghz all core for a set amount of time before dropping to 3.8Ghz all core and this isn't because of temperature throttling.

    • @lenny6313
      @lenny6313 Год назад

      Never heard of that shit that's annoying of Intel

  • @omega3556
    @omega3556 Год назад

    That i3 12100 did a very good job at gaming! Sould I build a used system with this CPU if I find a good deal in 2023?

  • @MrSamadolfo
    @MrSamadolfo Год назад

    🙂 i have a spare matx board laying around, so I picked up an i3 13100 for it, yay

  • @Ironfury91
    @Ironfury91 Год назад

    as a buy of the new intel 13 gen, the i5-13600k,
    i can say it does like power i did a cpu test just with cpu-z stress test, it toke about 165-170 watt,
    and got pretty hot on my 240 AIO, can't remember the temp, but mean it was like 80 ish
    but it is else a great cpu, don't use that much in games thou

  • @Negiku
    @Negiku Год назад +1

    For a 3060 ti, is there any reason to upgrade from an R5 3600? Will I see any difference?

    • @WayStedYou
      @WayStedYou Год назад +1

      I'd just drop a 5600 or 5700 in since you have am4 already

    • @NamTran-xc2ip
      @NamTran-xc2ip Год назад

      Which resolution? If it's 4k don't bother, lower than get 5800x3d, 5700 is not worth the uplift

  • @marcobezuidenhout5050
    @marcobezuidenhout5050 Год назад +1

    I took the Ryzen 7 5700x because I'm on X370 and upgraded from a Ryzen 7 1700. Night and Day! Great value upgrade!

  • @MayorTest
    @MayorTest Год назад +10

    I bought a B760 x DDR4 and an i5 13500. Nothing compares to it in terms of price and usability. It is cooled by deepcool AK400. I use the iGPU as a capture card for gaming/benchmark videos and often edit videos. It's the most ideal budget CPU for creators ;)

    • @Iconic11111
      @Iconic11111 Год назад

      What are the temps on gaming with AK 400..am asking bcoz am thinking to go with ak400 rather than 240 AIO but afraid if it will not able to handle🙄

    • @zhuzhu9599
      @zhuzhu9599 Год назад

      @@Iconic11111 did you buy 13500?

  • @deivytrajan
    @deivytrajan Год назад +18

    13500 is extremely underrated. It beats 13400 in performance per price

    • @grlmgor
      @grlmgor Год назад +10

      That because the 13400 is overprice the 12400 is a much better buy.

    • @robertt9342
      @robertt9342 Год назад +1

      @@grlmgores price is a major factor in performance per $, thanks for pointing that out.
      Why do you recommend the 12400 over the13400 or 13500?

    • @zonelore
      @zonelore Год назад

      Intel should immediately rename 13500 to 13400 the way it should have been.
      13400 turned out to be somehow bad, here i3 turned out to be a bad option in general

    • @grlmgor
      @grlmgor Год назад +1

      @@robertt9342 Yes, in AUS a new 12400 is $279 and a 13400 is $389.
      The performance is difference is very small.

    • @Jwalker76
      @Jwalker76 Год назад +1

      @@zonelore imo the reason the 13400 is a bad product is because of the price. It's so close in price to the 13500, it's worth paying that little bit more for the extra 4 Ecores.

  • @carter7894
    @carter7894 Год назад +3

    You should take a look at the i9 11900t vs these types of cpus. It’s honestly looking to be a dope performance per wattage

  • @michaelthompson9798
    @michaelthompson9798 Год назад +4

    Great video Bry🥰😇👍! The i5-13500 is proving itself a great, as mentioned, all rounder cpu 💪👍. What people can get in the past couple years, in terms of cpu performance, is quite amazing from both AMD and Intel🥰💪👍 compared to earlier CPUs. We at a point, I feel, that cpu and GPU horsepower has seen a massive jump for gamers, prosumers & professionals alike making better fps or reduce production turn around time.

  • @Asraful_x
    @Asraful_x 6 месяцев назад

    My guy Brian is just a genius as always. 😊

  • @camelCased
    @camelCased 9 месяцев назад

    i5-13500 seems to be a good upgrade option from my i7-7700 (which is 7 years old already, ouch). I looked at Passmark CPU benchmarks list and checked a few AMD options close to the ratings of 13500, but somehow I cannot find any of those AMD CPUs in stores in my country for about the same price as 13500, which is 260 EUR. For example, 3900X costs 450 EUR in the cheapest stores in my country. Maybe Intel has a lobbyist campaign here or something 😀

  • @Ruperth316
    @Ruperth316 Год назад

    quick question, Im using ryzen 5 3600 currently, should I upgrade to 5800x3d? or just get an 13500 with B760 mobo? Thanks

    • @chippi2000
      @chippi2000 Год назад +1

      5800x3D if you have a good motherboard and AM4 Cooler already - otherwise I would prefer going AMD 7600 (non-x)

    • @MrSamadolfo
      @MrSamadolfo Год назад

      just depends if ur build has a good beefy X motherboard, if its something like an A board then u need a new cpu board combo from either platform, use stuff that complements each other

    • @kevlarandchrome
      @kevlarandchrome Год назад

      Look at Hardware Unboxed's testing videos, the 5800x3d kicks the crap out of everything but thirteenth gen i9s.

  • @gordongekko427
    @gordongekko427 9 месяцев назад

    The reason for preventing you from undervolting is a security flaw in Ryzen 7xxx and Intels 12th, 13th and 14th Gen. CPUs
    With undervolting you can produce a CPU hang which allows you, to read some encryption keys out of the CPU - it takes time because you only get a few bytes...but if you do it a lot of times you will get the complete key which is supposed to remain in the CPU at all times.

  • @Mr11ESSE111
    @Mr11ESSE111 Год назад +5

    its not better value because you need relative expensive mobo for 13500 and 5700x will be fine with 40-70$ mobo such as a320,350,450 too