THIS is why people have trust issues! Intel 14th Gen Review
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Intel has launched it's 14th Gen Processor... which is really nothing more than a renamed 13900KS CPU with slightly more conservative power limits...
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I see no problem here, you pay more for your cpu so you can pay more for your electricity bill while gaining absolutely nothing. What a bargain indeed. haha
LMAO
Intel CPU spokespeople be like
>Buys amd
>Get's permabanned from gaming
People buy intel and nvidia for quality of life and tranquillity.
Interesting how the electricity bill doesn't come up when the reviews are about amd gpus.
@@Happiness-lp9fw driver got revoked and all people are being unbanned lol, plus that was valves issue not amds
@@Happiness-lp9fwoh yeah because no one has ever brought up power draw of GPU's 🙄
Intel has used the "50" designation before with a desktop processor that fell in between the 10700 and 10900. Remember the 10850K? It was actually a very good value when it was released.
I still have my 10850k and yes it was a great value at the time. Basically just a low binned 10900k and set 100Mhz lower. My second core is a turd so I optimize around it and it's held up great. That being said from then to even 12th gen the performance has gone up quite a bit with the newer cpu's so I'm not surprised to see that slow down a bit between 13th and 14th gen
I’ve got a 4790k build powering my basement VR/ home entertainment setup. ten generations old now and still puts smiles on faces.
@@aarliann I still have two 4790K systems, first one is running for 9 years now. You can OC them to hell and back, but the only problem is, it's still just 4 cores.
Still, pretty good for 1080 gaming when paired with a 980ti or 1080ti.
But for PC companies.. they need a yearly "NEW MODEL" to sell to people. Real world difference between a top-end 4-year old CPU and new one is minimal. Less heat, usually.
I paid $350 for a used ThinkPad with a 6core intel CPU thats 4 years old. It's about 10~12% slower than the 2022 model which sold for $1800. With the bonus of not using USB-C as a charge port.
@@jsteezy80
With the 10850K, you still get your 4K/60 or 1440/120 at Ultra with Maxed sliders, right?
I know i did with my 10900K, and so you do not need to upgrade.
It's just a waste of your hard earned money.
I run a 5800X3D with a 3090, and i don't need to upgrade. I actually dismantled my 10900K system to go full time with the 5800X3D. No need to upgrade bro. Save your money.
I can't decide whether to consider this video aging like fine wine or like milk, considering that both these generations (13th gen and 14th gen) are affected by serious silicon degradation.
Congrats to i9 13900K owners you already have i9 14900K a year ago.
This is actually good news. The "new gen" at the same msrp will make the "old" 13 gen go down in price, making the 13600 an even better price/performance deal.
13500 should be even better p/p after this. (I'm not bitter, i'm just sad i didn't wait).
Lols, this is such a fanboy response, 13th Gen is still a sucky generation no matter how you picture it, 40% more power for less performance than AMD and at a far higher cost, why would you except that you're a fanboy?
Yeah, so happy i waited. 8600k upgrade to 13 gen for me hahha
@@SpyderTrackshe's talking about Intel
Higher memory speed good make sure us Asus ROG MB best experience
Jay thanks so much for your content! I’ve watched 3 reviews on the 14th gen so far and you are the only one that bothered to mention the motherboard power limit stuff. Great video and great review!
My theory is that 14th Gen is what Raptor Lake was supposed to be all along. Given that 13th Gen was put out ten months after 12th Gen, I think that was rushed out to compete with the 5800X3D. Then they tried to bargain on Meteor Lake for even more uplift, but since that isn't working out for desktop they put the refresh out as a placeholder until Arrow Lake.
This was all leaked by MLID months ago xd. Not really news.Glad people are still observant though, can't let intel pool the wool over people's eyes just by calling it 14th gen lol.
Sounds about right
This 14th refresh is because Meteor Lake flops on desktop and wasn't really ready in time. OEMs are rushing out Phoenix Zen4 laptops.
Anyway 12th gen had bugs, the Thread Director stuff wasn't working right and it needed Windows 11 so launched late after the 11th gen debacle.
Adding Atom E-cores was already a desperate play brute forcing MT benchmarks with power consumption.
Raptor Lake was a refinement on Alder, required to counter Zen4, fixing bugs and adding more Atom cores.
Intel are trying to hang on, but Zen5 is starting to leak out now, OEMs are unimpressed by 14th and this means AMD launch a new architecture unopposed until Q4/24.
Bit of a stretch/giving them too much credit even with bad decisions.
Its because intel still haven't figured out how to manufacture using euv machines at economic viable yield
The end of the video was gold... "i like building computers" and "just put what you can afford in your PC"
Thats as real as it gets right there
exactly.
go pick whatever suit your need and pocket
since sometimes amd cheaper and sometimes is intel cheaper.
different places have different prices
13900KS = 14900K + a slight bump, close enough to being twins though. Think I'm staying with 12900KF.
What resolution are you running with that 12900KF btw?
overclock the 13900KS and you have matched the 14900K or very very close to
oc'ing is free (assuming you had a beefy cooler already, as you should for a 13900KS)
@@benjamind547 wouldn't CPU usage go down as the resolution goes up anyway?
@@MrVlodato Sure. But I mean if you're going to buy a 14900K / 13900K / 7950X or something like that, you're more than likely going to pair it with a 7900 XTX or a 4090. The reason I mention the resolution here is because it just seems like a waste of money to get those GPU's and play on anything less than 4K because there are more affordable/sensible purchases that work perfectly well with 1440p or even 1080p - 13600K, 14600K, 7600/7600X or even a 7800X3D for future proofing as it's not crazy expensive compared to a 13600K. The 7700/7700X doesn't really make any sense to me given that it's literally only £50 less than a 7800X3D atm.
My undervolted 13900ks has almost same multicore score as this 14900k.
Reckon if I unleash it, remove the negative offset and increase LLC a bit, would beat it without a doubt
i would have loved to see the 12900k on the comps just to see how much difference the 13 was compared the the 14th increase. do you guys have the i7 14th gen yet?
These guys likely sell their gifted samples (gifted meaning they get to keep those ones) on ebay after a while. Which is theirs to do as they please with, but i mention it just so everyone knows they do NOT need your 'donations' or for you to buy their grift merch to keep them going. Ad-rev is more than enough already.
@@clitmintWait, businesses exist to make money?
@@clitmintblud just learned what businesses do
And you can buy their merch only if you want to lol, I bought from them and from other youtubers merch and it was pretty good (specifically the kvm switch I bought I just can't remember from who)
@@ExecratedPlaysGaming
Businesses do exist to make money. I run 2, and take the occasional home-improvement jobs when they pop up, like fitting bathrooms/kitchens for example.
However, business men/women asking for donations, are con-artist grifters. That's my point.
They con you with their emotional pleading, then grift off the suckers who bought it.
@@twiistedpanda4781
Oh there's merch (stuff that's helpful and useful and is equal or less than other prices), and then there's grift merch which is overpriced stuff (good or bad) or junk, which is ALWAYS overpriced.
You can tell which is which by comparing prices with other like-items on different stores.
Like the Linus screwdriver BS, that's pure grift merch. Linus, and all these other big techtubers know, there's plenty of mindless lemming fanboys out there to soak money out of, and so the grift merh does well.
Other types of grift merch would be the usual t-shirts, mugs, flasks, waterbottles, posters, keychains.
Just got a 5900x. Very happy with it. Don't really care about DDR5 stuff.
HAHAHA - this just popped up on my timeline... seems like it could use a "addon" !
After shelling out the dough for a 13900k and a 4090 all on water. Kind of don't want to upgrade a thing until it's time to upgrade the whole damn thing, Haha
If they had named it the 13950x then they couldn't say "Hay look we supported the 12th, 13th, and 14th gen CPUs ON THE SAME PLATFORM!"
Exactly.
I am excited for this release just because the pricing is so close between 13th and 14th gen and the performance isn't much of an improvement. I'm looking for a Micro Center bundle deal on the 13700k/13900k or 7900X around Black Friday. I sure hope those prices drop a fair bit by then.
same, hopefully they'll lower the 13900k bundle. Im looking at the 12900k rn but if the 13th gen becomes a better deal i might just do that.
13700k bundle just dropped $50
@@58longi just wish the 13700k bundle came with a better mobo...
Me too, I'll never buy Asus boards again after the RMA experience I had with them. Wish Microcenter would stop putting Asus in the bundles.
I have the 13700K and the 7900X. Bothare really good, but the 7900X is a beast
Just got a 7800X3D from Best Buy for $329. Gonna be a massive upgrade from my ancient Intel 2600K!
Are you gonna pair the 7800X3D with a GTX570 from the old system? 😅
Jokes aside, I still have a 3930K and a GTX580 in good running condition myself 😊
Hard to cool, and only for gaming.
@@Joeteck Patrick P. Gelsinger is that you?
@@yourfavoritelawnguy2722No. CEO and founder of JoeteckTips... But close..
AMD 7800X3D pulls about 80W and is a hard match for Intels 14th gen top that can pull 320W....
sure you know what your talking about?
Lol it won't pull that in gaming, most likely 40w more in those loads
I already buy it... and i think its worth it depends on your situation... i have the 4790k from 10 years ago and its time for an upgrade, initialy i wanted the 13900k but the 14900k is only 49€ or 52$ more in my country (spain) so i think its worth it for me. Cant wait to have my new PC
52 is just 4 beers haha
@@AqepbxVondx i dont drink alcohol so i rather buy cpus hahaha
Was waiting for this before upgrading. Think now I’ll just pick up a cheaper 13th gen
Get a 12th gen. It's more than enough if your building a gaming or editing PC. Mine is way more than I need paired with my 4070.
@@paddlesouth 12700k is my current processor
14900k is currently selling 30 dollars （canadian） more than the 13900k， maybe wait for a bit for the price to drop.
what a bad tip..
@@paddlesouth
Like Jay say if you don't have the 13th gen then it's okay for the upgrade. Not worth the upgrade from the 13th gen since it only gain a little performance. It's like buying a car. If the new model still using the same motor, it's not really an upgrade. It's just an update.
This blows my mind. This is a technology company at the quite literal forefront of INNOVATION, and this is the kind of tech we are presented with.
Exactly. Best thing ever said by a content creator put whatever you can afford into your build.
I'm a 13th Gen...
But I *identify* as a 14th Gen ;D
lol
Why didn’t Jay include the 7800x3d. It trumps the 14900k in cost and performance per watt and only a couple percent slower.
10th gen: no one cares about me
I am happy with my 7950X running @105w ECO mode, PBO -15, runs cool, My Geekbench6 scores different to yours Jayz - SC =2984, MC.=19,365 - not as quick as Intel but a darn sight lower power draw and heat output - ASUS B650E-E Corsair 64Gb 5600 CAS 40 !
This matters a lot for someone like me who uses a computer all day in a home office.
I traded in my color calibrated photo monitors and downgraded to LED panels just to save power and thus much much less heat in my room.
Working or gaming in a sauna is no fun.
Typical fanboy that is having buyers remorse response right here hahaha
@@iequalsnoobenjoy 300w power draw then lmao.
@@iequalsnoob - enjoy unlimited power draw from Gen 14 - 400w - rofl for that little bit of extra performance !
The only guy online who tells you the truth no matter how much it hurts, the i9 14900k is pure marketing. A small booster, but in the end it is an i9 13900k with makeup.
I'm looking to build my first PC in a few months, and honestly i'm hyped for this launch because i'm hoping 13th gen will go down by like, 40 bucks. Appreciate the small things :)
Don't get why people are so mad about this, I saw this as a mostly possitive thing. To me this feels like a socket's getting a mature upgrade (allthough small on the perf. side).
Allthough whoever upgrades from 13 to 14th gen is probably not the smartest person.
I have a 11700K so an upgrade would be nice but not neccesary, though the 14700K had a few E-cores more and I always tend to go for the seond option so to speak.
For example i decided on a 4080 instead of a 4090 and 2y-3y before that i went with a 11700K instead of the 11900K.
For me It's not worth it going with the most expensive option.
I have just purchased a RYZEN 9 5900x to upgrade from my RYZEN 5 3600xt, I also purchased an NZXT Kraken Elite 280 to keep it cool. I am pretty confident that I made a good choice given the poor showing from Intel, and I am not really made of money.
I upgraded to the 5900x a year ago after running my 2600 into the ground😂 and I love it. I’ll upgrade to 8000 series in a couple years probably cause I’m not made of money either
well, if it was for gaming, you'd been way better off with a 5800x3d. like, a lot.
@@GraveUypo I know, but the 5900x was at the right price and will do what I require.
So the 7950x3D would be a better choice for video editing+gaming+recording+streaming pc? (I mainly play Fortnite)
Honestly used the 14700k to build my first ever PC, love it so far. When pricing I was seeing practically no price difference between the Generation. Your channel and Linus were the ones that inspired me to finally build a Computer, Thank You ^.^
14K in all bench marks is out performing the 13K by at least 20 FPS, this guy is a trendy pro AMD intel hater, he talked about AMD being a piece of shit basically because it can't handle memory but at the same time promotes AMD. Stick to your 14K it's a superior processor to AMD's trash lately and 13K, don't buy the crap real world talks.
@@figureitoutpunkIntel 13th or 14th gen is just objectively worse than AMD's current gen. If you look at temps and power draw to performance, that is.
Intel currently uses ridiculous amounts of power and overheats very fast
Don't know if you'll see this comment, but what are you using to cool your 14700k?
I'm using a H100i to cool mine. Still hits 100c during stress testing, but during gaming it runs fine.@@Stealthcastlandon
@@figureitoutpunkyou don't know how comparisons work, the 14th gen has single percent uplifts, just agree with rest of us that Intel is just giving us a hotter chip for no performance upgrade. The 7800x3d beats every consumer cpu in gaming and 7950x beats every consumer cpu for productivity and efficiency. 14k is superior alright, superior trash.
My i7 12800HX still runs everything. If you have at least had i7 12th gen and you're the average gamer/creator then I honestly think you're good.
It is supposed to be refresh, and that is what it is. Jay makes a good point in regards the power profile, most MB manufacturers have automated settings that will make the cpu pull up to 200 watts more than intended, for minimal gains in performance and much higher temperatures. I have seen benchmarks of the 14700k pulling 500 watts for often 3% better performance than what it gets when consuming 250-300. Asus is normally the largest culprit , but msi is starting to do the same.
I just got the 4090 FE edition, I picked up the i9 14 gen due to this being my first ever gaming pc build. I’m moving away from console gaming but, I’m starting to think with all the research the i9 might be overkill for just a gaming focused pc. I prob can just go with a i7 13gen and save 230$. I’m new to this and fig it’s future proof for a few years but does anyone think this is a waste? Will a i7 be more then enough for a purely gaming only rig? And will i7 be more then enough for the monster 4090 I just bought?.
The 14700k is what has my attention if it can hold the same or better clock speed while adding 4 more cores.
Why no comparison to X3D CPUs? Almost same performance (atleast at gaming) at half power the consumption sounds like an important information.
So why did Intel not include the AV1 HW encoder and a quad channel Memory access (to already on the module dual channeled DDR5)? This would have given a significant advantage and benefit. I do love my i7-13700h in permanent 65W and nearly the same performance and a much much better iGPU for OpenCL calculations.
the more i see intel and nvidia dropping the ball, the more i feel my choice to go with amd who i barely knew about back in the early 2000s when i dabbled in pc gaming being a good choice. for lower cost i get a good performance cpu and gpu that work well together, and low power cost.
As frustrating as it might be for us, I can see one argument for calling these 14th gen: Making it obvious, which are their latest CPUs. Given the complexity of the CPU numbering, a simple "-R" for "refresh" or similar changes wouldn't really stand out - as fitting as that might be.
As an experiment: Take a look at the Haswell CPU numbers and try to tell at a glance which of those are from the Haswell Refresh.
90 is bigger than 70, people are going to buy that one at the same price.
If I'm doing a new I7 build I'm buying 14 gen, its the top I7. 14 Gen supports more features as well.
Most compelling thing about 14th gen would be better DDR5 stability. Would be interesting to see some RAM overclocking tests
Oh you poor sweet summer child. I have some very bad news for you. There is ZERO improved DDR5 Stability. Its actually worse than 13th gen.
@@NinjAsylum Source? 14900k has 96 GB/s memory bandwidth 13900KS has 89.6 GB/s
it have problems like 2nd gen of amd cpu had with DDR4, system even wont boot so who cares about bandwidth@@shofla
I swear that's the reason why I stayed in DDR4 with my 13900K, but people still ask why I didn't went with DDR5 with today's price, STABILITY.
@@Dar1usz Again source? I haven't seen anything like that, and the CPU's have been available for only a few days.
people are buying it so ...yeah
intel knew what it was doing.
"It don't matter if you win by an inch or a mile. Winning's winning."
I've got nowhere near the budget or need for a chip like this, but it's always interesting to see how things are going on the cutting edge of consumer tech. Shame that it's bad advertising, but even small improvements to efficiency and thermals are welcomed.
I'll stick to my 7600x for the next few years and see where things are closer to the end of the decade, though XD
Not at a $300 difference in price. This is just Intel trying to respond to AMD who at least has a use case for more cores but only one has the VRAM makes for some problems practically.
Meteor lake for desktop didnt happen... so they just did raptor lake 2... 😮
Wait for the arrow to fly in a year me thinks
When I was building a full-size PC last December, I went with the 13,900K and I am happy with it. I'll stick with it for the foreseeable future.
intel have lot of thermal issues on i7 and i9 series .. everyone please review thoroughly before purchasing
I very much appreciate Jay keeping us consumers informed. Thank you 🙏
intel 14th gen is
just a massive ad for amd especially 7800x3d
We were promised 3 gens for this Intel socket. Instead we got 2.1 gens.
Next socket intel will give 1.2 gens, classic
@@yomiiiu
Can't wait for Intel to give us a socket that changes mid-generation. So we'll have less than a whole generation for the single type of socket (and motherboard). At that point I'd be tempted to file suit against Intel for actively anti-consumer business practices, and violation of truth in advertisement laws (after obtaining legal counsel).
Thay never promised 3 gens, only 2. Meteor Lake was supposed to come out now on the new LGA1851 socket.
I don't get what the issue is. 13th gen is about to get heavily discounted and the consumers win
This was supposed to be the gen we could upgrade more without needing to buy another MoBo due to new socket. I guess not. I'll keep my 12700k and I'll be forced to buy a new MoBo and new DDR5 in the future...
13:36 it feels like you’re in better spirits doing builds, I like how you delivered this review, instructional in addition to review/benchmark. Good comparison to the 7950x too just built a pc with that, no 14th gen for me!
i would wait for 9000 series 7000 series is poor value and about to get its funeral and much needed price cuts
giving my haswell cpu another year to complete the decade, before I upgrade
As a 8th gen user that is seeing the last days of his I5 I think that the slight increase in performance at the same price sounds promising, obviously not what I expected. Maybe I can get a nice deal on 13th gen
I'm on 6th gen. GTX 1070. Getting 60fps on low and some medium for Warhanmer Dark Tide. Good optimized games like Forza Horizon 5 run at 60fps Extreme.
@@Overlord277 good on you, keep it going as long as possible!
So what ur saying is advertising would be better if it was called 13th gen+ 🤔
Interesting side note Jay, in a recent ASUS bios update for AMD, they changed PBO to "AI Optimized". I flashed my bios 2 weeks ago, and reran Cinebench r23 just to see how it changed my scores. After it ran, saw a score increase of nearly 2k on my 7700x. I went from mid 18000's to low 20000's
Oh word? 7950x don’t fail me now
Woke up my 6700xt 😅 5900x is locked into all cores same speed stable. Guess I'm try and turn the cpu turbo back on and send it lol 😅
Which mobo? I just looked and see that my X670E-E got BIOS 1709 five days ago, so I'll have to try that.
When I built my 7900X rig in February, my initial R23 benchmark was over 29000 (can't recall what BIOS version and the old ones are gone now), but subsequently I'd sometimes be as low as 27000s or low 28000s range depending on which EXPO setting I used. (EXPO I seems fastest for me.)
Been on 1602 for two months but before that I had to use 1416 with SoC voltage manually locked at 1.25V cuz 1516 was so unstable that I would only successfully boot one in three or four times, Windows would get corrupted and require a Restore rollback, and it'd even freeze in BIOS. Just awful.
Same as you 670E-E
@@BrianTelleraineCarson Then you updated less than 5 days ago, not two weeks, but no biggie. Thanks for the tip.
1:50 8700k and 9700k are very different CPUs, 9700k doesn't have hyperthreading, 8700k does. In some games 8700k performs much better than 9700k because of that
I'm really happy to hear this because I'm about to build a new PC, upgrading from a 4th Gen i5, so knowing I can save a buck on the 13th gen is pretty awesome.
My 13th gen is still over powered for what use it for. No need to upgrade for a few more years.
can this even be called a refresh? higher price, higher thermals and power usage
inteL
100% trust issue to every brand
Still waiting on a reason to upgrade from my 5800x3d 😂
I still haven't found a personal use case that has made me feel compelled to upgrade my i7-6700 from late 2015. The fact that it isn't "ready for Windows 11" just means it doesn't bug me to "upgrade" to the advertising platform and data harvesting tool masquerading as an operating system that is Win11. I'm migrating to some flavor of Linux when Windows 10 reaches EOL.
I have been running Pop-OS on my old 6700k, I like it a lot more than windows. There is a learning curve with Linux, but I am not going back to Windows. My cooling fans alone run near silent unless I load the system, couldn't ever say that with Windows. Going to see how it all works with my new machine once my last parts arrive and I can build it.
I’d have been on Linux a very long time ago if gaming on it was worth a damn but I’ve been largely disappointed with how much work it takes just even get it “barely playable” in my opinion. And lack of graphics card controls, without a ton of work? I’m good. I’ll just remove everything I don’t need from windows 11 as I’ve done since the start
I might end up dual-booting Windows 11 if any of the games I want to play are grossly incompatible with Linux, but I don't foresee myself daily-driving it. I hear the work that Valve has done on the Proton compatibility layer since the success of the Steam Deck has made Linux gaming much more seamless these days, @stevenmartin4889 .
Bro you can quit with the Windows 11 conspiracies. It's the same user experience and you can bypass the Microsoft account requirement.
@@davide4725 The fact that you can opt out of the advertising platform and data harvesting tools baked into Windows 11 by jumping through some annoying and unintuitive hoops in order to bypass the M$ account login IN NO WAY excuses the fact that it is, by default, an advertising platform and data harvesting tool. That isn't a conspiracy theory, it's the Microsoft business model.
It still makes no sense to get 14th gen from 12th gen, because 13th and 14th gen are functionally the same. But, the 13th gen are way cheaper due to being old.
older not old
but thats why they called it a refresh, its not really marketed as a next gen cpu, next year they are even changing the naming scheme. I feel like in the past Intel did this because they had no competition and no reason to innovate, but this time I feel like they just didnt have next gen ready in time. Also some gens with a yearly release schedule have to be small uplifts in performance, you cant go from 12th gen to 13th gen type improvements every year, I just dont think thats possible,
I think they have to go back to the tick tock approach, they did away with it to get to a certain level to make sure they keep up with amd , but I think to keep price and power usage down they have to go back to a tick tock sort of approach. Where every 2 years is the big upgrade and in between just process refinement.
AMD has had significant performance increase every generation of Ryzen. It can be done. Ryzen 8000 is currently expected to have 10%+ increase in IPC over Ryzen 7000. If AMD can do it then Intel has the $ to do it too.
Atleast they should have increased the cache or something meaningful
In Jay we trust!
I probably wait till they release the KF versions.😆😆😆😆😆😆😂😂😂😂😂
Nice one Jay, it sickens me too a bit when such massive corporations resort to such sleazy marketing to basically scam people into an overpriced 13th gen in this case.
Intel and nVidia both need an intervention for their creative marketing practices.
Wait he said in the beginning of the video that 12th gen should upgrade and then at the end of the video that 12th gen should not? Lolwot
Come on Jay, let 13th Gen identify as 14th Gen. It's 2023.
Intel: It's not the same.
Me: Why?
Intel: Because it's not the same.
why am I always trying to upgrade on the filler years...😤
I have a 14900k on an Asus board and the stupid thing pulls 1.413vcore on default settings. Jay, can you please do a video explaining the power settings your talking about in this video?
14th gen in summary (the numberS are NEW)🤣
4 proc better new cpu 14gen , wy know this 3 month ago
7800X3D is intel's worst nightmare
Does the new 14th gen fix the memory controller issues with having 4 dimms of high speed ram installed?
If you're buying new get the 14th Gen. Look at the Data
Is it worth upgrading 9900 to 13900 in terms of single core performance for music production? Thank you!
Iam going to go from 7th gen to 14th gen in 2024 :-)
The 14++++ th generation will be better.
:)
I'm the only one who wanted a 14790k?
why all this but not the new 14900 KF??
I just got the 14900K, which I'm upgrading from a 9th Gen Intel.
How is it for you? What are your temps on load and wattages? And what cooling are you using?
Here I am still rocking my i7 7700k hehe
Hello Jay could you make a video where you recommend the most viable MOBO for Ryzen systems? I ask because from your videos I learned that the MOBO market is severely overpriced (as with most parts).
I have been revisiting some of these reviews/opinion pieces on the 13/14th gen Intel chips recently.
With plans to upgrade my 30 series GPU to a 5080 or 5090 when they release I am now entertaining the idea of upgrading my 12700k to a 14700k or 14900k IF the pricing on them drops enough after the new Arrow Lake chips release.
I in the past would just go a new build but with inflation and rising living cost I am thinking an upgrade may be a satisfactory option for my current z690 board build.
I am leaning towards the 14700k as I only game, no production type of work but do want to better match my system to pair with a 5080 or 5090 and feel moving to the 14th gen would accomplish that.
Also with the exception of engaging XMP timings would be running everything at stock settings and speeds.
Does this make sense to do to keep cost down over building a complete new system while still pretty well keeping the system balanced with the new GPU?
I'm still rocking my 9900k with my 3080ti... would it be a better idea to upgrade to the 13.5 gen since 14th is up a refined version? Or wait until the newer 15th that will be a new idea
I have to agree with @lurch789 There is nothing you really can't play with that 9900K even now, and unless you are chasing FPS or needing to do some serious productivity/content creation work, I would certainly wait.
Intel fan boy punching the air rn🤣🤣
As someone still rocking a 9th Gen Intel I just watch your videos for info for when I finally upgrade.
So glad that I do, thank you Jay. please keep it up.
i got i7 7700 should i get 14700kf or 13700kf?
14th gen does have one extra: APO. That is only 14th gen and only 14700 and 14900 series. How much that will affect how many games on Windows has to be seen because the hardware side seems to be a bit ahead of the software side. But if it works as advertised fine-tuned scheduling for a particular application can have quite an impact on the performance. But AFAIK the software side is still TBA.
The more you buy………. The more you save! 😂
13900k, RTX4090, DDR5-2x32GB = "any game".....stutter.......crash.....troubleshoot......repeat
6700K, RTX2080Super, DDR4-2x16GB = Works.
When did they do this with 4th gen?
4th gen was more power efficient than 3rd. Slightly better performance. And then a couple months later they came out with the mid generation refresh that was still called the 4th gen. Instead of releasing a 5670 they released a 4690 as an upgrade to the 4670
If Intel is just refreshing old tech, why don't they just wait until there's something substantial to offer where people are not only interested, but pleased with the results? Do they enjoy getting roasted by all these tech channels for being lazy?
OEM's, shills, and people who see bigger number=better
@@TonyChan-eh3nz I guess the same thing applies to people who keep buying the same phone each year.
Kinda curious how it performs if you donwclock it to a 13900k and undervolt it, the power draw is important to me or I will have to go to AMD
We should FILE A LAWSUIT against the chip manufactures for making new chips every year - There should be a LAW that states you can only manufacture a chip every 3 or 5 year period for us HUMANS to actually see the gains of purchasing a New PC - Not every day I get a 3000$ bonus!!!
The 14th gen is not about performance, it's about stability and higher control over the other aspects of the processor. A lot of people don't understand that a refresh isn't meant to be based on purely speed but more over a better control.
For those of you who wanna make fun of Intel for making a slight increase in speed that it would seem the 14th gen look garbage then you have no clue about how tech actually works. Sure speed is a main factor in performance but why sacrifice stability for speed? Most people will hate BSODs, 14th gen will fix that for people running on quad-channels and using a lot more PCIe lanes.