No, probably not. Because the hybrid system can't deliver enough energy for such a long time. Even the unrestricted Porsche 919 evo did "only" 369 km/h top speed.
@@BastianKH It didn’t have a top speed setup tho, if it did it would hit 400kmh i can guarantee you that, it hit that speed at the ring which has a lot of fast corners thus requiring a lot of downforce
@@broshido2745 The prblem is the accu. Even with a low downforce setup, the electric energie will decline massively as you see in the world record video. And the ICE alone will not be strong enough for 400 km/h. What doues it have? 6xx hp? And you didn't even talk about the massively modified EVO but a normal LMP-Car.
Like, basically, any mid-high speed track with a bunch of back-to-back corners and almost no braking or acceleration zones would be an interesting toss-up. Everything else would be F4 car with F1 engine. So, just the Saudi GP track would maybe be a toss-up. I'm sure there are others, but the point is if the F1 car can't keep up its momentum on a track where its average speed is really, really close to its top speed, it's toast.
Bearing in mind though that the LMP cars can go a LOT faster they just don’t because they have the aerodynamics and are geared for the chicanes. Otherwise they would easily go as fast as the Bugatti
Unsurprising conclusion. Though watching the Bugatti pulling away on the straight was impressive. Maybe next could be the Hennessy f5? That'd be interesting!
@@Extra-sw7je Because the front wheels will loose grip due to the unbelievable sideways momentum and hit the wall, killing every living cell residing in the car.
@@atanasvasilev3228At those speeds the gyro forces on the spinning wheels are too much for the suspension to correct. The steering wheel no longer centers itself. So if the car drifts even a little bit off, it's going to keep going that way and that will be it. Also doubt if the tires could take any corner at that speed without instantly shredding under the combined loads.
I think it would be interesting to see how the koenigsegg Jesko attack, Jesko absolut, Chiron pur sport and Chiron super sport perform at the Le Mans no chicane
After a few laps the Bugatti would be so far behind that it wouldn’t catch up on the Mulsanne straight… The downforce on that Porsche is amazing. Wonder what the unleashed 919 EVO would have achieved?
I wonder if the Bugatti Bolide will ever get to run le mans at full tilt. Doesn't seem likely. But would be fun if it does. What do you think it would be? A miracle on the tarmac or a pretty fast but overhyped racecar?
the Bolide has actually driven a lap thro Le Mans in 2023 because it was the 100th anniversary of le mans and the bolide achieved a lap time of 3 min and 7 seconds while the alltime laprecord of le mans was set by the TS050 (the car in the video) and it was 3 min and 17 seconds... yh it is faster than an LMP1 car btw the fastest lmh lap was set by ferrari in the 499P and got 3 min 27 seconds
@@stonecutter7474 That's not real lol, they """"SIMULATED"""" it and stated some bullshit laptime. You have no idea how fast an LMP1 or LMH car is... it's not beating those.... We've seen insanely extreme 2000hp hypercars with crazy tech before and they couldn't even get close to LMH or LMP1....
Now THIS is the kind of high speed showdowns that I like! A fast race car going up against a hypercar that could potentially match it. I also remember negging my cousin to do a race like this in Forza and he always said that it wouldn’t work that well. Oh well, his loss! 😅
HE isnt that fast and it takes way more to get to 400 kph after that you need a minute to get to 450 kph. and why does the toyota sound like a audi or ferarri with a flywheel and the Chiron like a Corvette?
Well ... race cars are mostly designed with grip in mind, not top speed, so the outcome isn't that surprising. On more cornered circuits the gap would have been even bigger.
What is the fastest "Corvette" around Le Mans? Corvette GTP (Group C) vs Corvette C6.R (GT1) vs Corvette DP (Daytona Prototype Gen 3) vs Corvette C8.R (GTE)
I KNEW IT! I told you that the LMP1 would be better then the Chiron in corners and that it had enough time to gain what it has lost at mulsanne and the other 2 long straights
Quick question... are you able to deploy the Chiron's rear wing during the turns?? I mean, seeing it trying to turn with a lowered wing was stressful enough XD Is the wing functional in the mod?
As cool as it was watching the Chiron go sideways through the Mulsanne kink at 400 km/h, irl you’re hitting the brake through there. That probably goes without saying
Easily, provided that it was allowed to use the hybrid when doing a standing start IRL (which I don't know). You get a 1000 BHP semi 4-wheel drive (350 BHP on the front, 650 BHP on the rear) on racing slicks.
Can you make a battle between the fastest ev (i reckon would be the new porsche taycan) with the fastest road car based race car (something like ferrari fxx version of their road going car or like pagani zonda r)
Interesting. Considering how close Bugatti was to the F1, I expected it to take this one. Though admittedly AFAIR, F1 lost even more on the straights, with something like 320 top speed
Now the question is, could the Koenigsegg Jesko beat the LMP1 around Le Mans without chicanes? It's almost as fast as the Bugatti on the straights, but significantly lighter and should be substantially quicker through the corners
@@Weerknuffelbeer Just had a look at the Gen 3 Evo, very quick compared to gen 2. Probably on par with LMP2 like you say but it would very much depend on the track.
And this is one lap. Over a few laps, the Bugatti will need new tires quicker, and it takes a longer time to change them, too. Same for fuel, brake pads, and how about the temperatures?
Interesting to watch but I doubt the Bugatti could handle the high speed corners the way it did. Also the Bug’s brakes would be cooked after the first lap…
Would you rather own the Bugatti or the LMP1?
Lmp1
Both 😂.
LMP1
Bugatti because LMP1 isn’t street legal
LMP1
One thing to mention if there was no chicanes at le mans the lmp cars would run much less aero and different gearing, they would reach 400kmh easily
Exactly. With these lmp1 settings they should’ve used the chicanes. Only then the Bugatti kids would get mad. But the lmp1 wins anyway
No, probably not. Because the hybrid system can't deliver enough energy for such a long time. Even the unrestricted Porsche 919 evo did "only" 369 km/h top speed.
@@BastianKH It didn’t have a top speed setup tho, if it did it would hit 400kmh i can guarantee you that, it hit that speed at the ring which has a lot of fast corners thus requiring a lot of downforce
@@broshido2745 The prblem is the accu. Even with a low downforce setup, the electric energie will decline massively as you see in the world record video. And the ICE alone will not be strong enough for 400 km/h. What doues it have? 6xx hp? And you didn't even talk about the massively modified EVO but a normal LMP-Car.
@@BastianKH It was at 370 against a wall , porsche did not allow it. Easy 410
Video request, formula 4 with f1 engine vs formula 1 with f4 engine
That’ll be really, really track dependent.
F4 with f1 engine would win without doubt. Lighter and more powerful, no way F1 can win
@@aspi7850 f4 has very little downforce though, could be interesting, maybe on monaco the f1 could still win
@@aspi7850in monza very possible, in monaco... hmmmm not so much
Like, basically, any mid-high speed track with a bunch of back-to-back corners and almost no braking or acceleration zones would be an interesting toss-up. Everything else would be F4 car with F1 engine. So, just the Saudi GP track would maybe be a toss-up. I'm sure there are others, but the point is if the F1 car can't keep up its momentum on a track where its average speed is really, really close to its top speed, it's toast.
A great way to show the difference between a top speed capable car and a cornering speed capable car.
Nicely done.
Bearing in mind though that the LMP cars can go a LOT faster they just don’t because they have the aerodynamics and are geared for the chicanes. Otherwise they would easily go as fast as the Bugatti
The Chiron would crash at the end of that straight taking the corner at 400 KPH plus. It doesn’t have anywhere near enough grip to do that.
Absolutly
Grip, downforce, but above all far too much weight
it would crash because the tires would explode if even tried.
Unsurprising conclusion. Though watching the Bugatti pulling away on the straight was impressive. Maybe next could be the Hennessy f5? That'd be interesting!
I'd rather like to see this LMP1 car vs. Chiron Pur Sport or a Rimac Nevera
1:39 EPIC MOMENT
There's no way a 2000kg car slides like that with 464km/h and not crashing.
@@atanasvasilev3228 Why not? That's not even a corner for most cars
@@Extra-sw7je Because the front wheels will loose grip due to the unbelievable sideways momentum and hit the wall, killing every living cell residing in the car.
@@Extra-sw7jesame also on Bentley Continental.
@@atanasvasilev3228At those speeds the gyro forces on the spinning wheels are too much for the suspension to correct. The steering wheel no longer centers itself. So if the car drifts even a little bit off, it's going to keep going that way and that will be it. Also doubt if the tires could take any corner at that speed without instantly shredding under the combined loads.
I think it would be interesting to see how the koenigsegg Jesko attack, Jesko absolut, Chiron pur sport and Chiron super sport perform at the Le Mans no chicane
Jesko attack with that big spoiler would beat the Chiron…maybe not the LMP1, but it would be closer than 6 seconds
After a few laps the Bugatti would be so far behind that it wouldn’t catch up on the Mulsanne straight… The downforce on that Porsche is amazing. Wonder what the unleashed 919 EVO would have achieved?
That was the toyota ts 050 tho
Fuel consumption would be the issue with the Bugatti its very thirsty at full throttle.
Idea: the fastest GT3 vrs modern GT3
What do you mean with fastest GT3?
@@fqeagles21 y really like the GT3 category
@@narcisoorellana6772 i mean how would you determine the fastest GT3
@@fqeagles21 based on maximum speed
@@narcisoorellana6772 over a lap of LM or top Speed?
Do more of these, I love these crazy races at Le Mans
What about Subaru Impreza WRX 2005 against Karin Asaka's Peugeot 908? (2005 Impreza WRX starts 100 seconds ahead of the 908)
I wonder if the Bugatti Bolide will ever get to run le mans at full tilt. Doesn't seem likely. But would be fun if it does.
What do you think it would be? A miracle on the tarmac or a pretty fast but overhyped racecar?
Fast but not as fast as LMP1, probably faster than LMH
the Bolide has actually driven a lap thro Le Mans in 2023 because it was the 100th anniversary of le mans and the bolide achieved a lap time of 3 min and 7 seconds while the alltime laprecord of le mans was set by the TS050 (the car in the video) and it was 3 min and 17 seconds... yh it is faster than an LMP1 car
btw the fastest lmh lap was set by ferrari in the 499P and got 3 min 27 seconds
@@stonecutter7474it was SIMULATED.
Maybe similiar as LMH car
@@stonecutter7474 That's not real lol, they """"SIMULATED"""" it and stated some bullshit laptime. You have no idea how fast an LMP1 or LMH car is... it's not beating those.... We've seen insanely extreme 2000hp hypercars with crazy tech before and they couldn't even get close to LMH or LMP1....
Lol, Chiron accelerating as fast as the Toyota.
🤔
Wow even though its not real, that Chiron at 290mph on the last right kink at the end of the mulsanne sure looked epic and very scary.
Now THIS is the kind of high speed showdowns that I like! A fast race car going up against a hypercar that could potentially match it.
I also remember negging my cousin to do a race like this in Forza and he always said that it wouldn’t work that well. Oh well, his loss! 😅
The spoiler still doesn’t work on the bugatti
But the spoiler works on Veyron 2013.😅
@@purwantiallan5089 ok?
@@xnotasweatxok? 😡
It’s simulted tho
And I never saw one of them on the result sheet. Sheet car IMHO. My 5 cents
god damn, that straight line speed on the Bugatti is incredible. But it ain't no racecar. Great video!
HE isnt that fast and it takes way more to get to 400 kph after that you need a minute to get to 450 kph. and why does the toyota sound like a audi or ferarri with a flywheel and the Chiron like a Corvette?
Video request: Bugatti Bolide vs lmp1
Incredible race
And also epic 1 on 1 race man.
Now do it at 1950's Le Mans
There's no stopping the a-train
Early gang RISE UP 🙌🏽
awesome video man, im shocked by how quickly the LMP can corner
Well ... race cars are mostly designed with grip in mind, not top speed, so the outcome isn't that surprising. On more cornered circuits the gap would have been even bigger.
Video request, Aston Martin Valkyrie vs RB17 vs F1 vs Bugatti
light weight is always big advantage on track.
What is the fastest "Corvette" around Le Mans? Corvette GTP (Group C) vs Corvette C6.R (GT1) vs Corvette DP (Daytona Prototype Gen 3) vs Corvette C8.R (GTE)
👍Exactly as expected. Bugatti's advantage is only on the (long) straight.
I KNEW IT! I told you that the LMP1 would be better then the Chiron in corners and that it had enough time to gain what it has lost at mulsanne and the other 2 long straights
On straights, TS050 was like 138kph slower than Chiron SS and Veyron.
@@purwantiallan5089 yes
@@purwantiallan5089I think that's cuz the transmission is designed for the chicane version of la sarthe, that doesnt need a high top speed
you should totally do this again whenever a rimac nevera r mod comes out
2:59 Talk about a close shave 🪒! How was that not a monster smash!?
I thought the TS050 about to hit the Chiron SS 300.😅
Fernando Alonso behind the wheel :D
Make something like, "Very Different Cars With Similar Performances"
Ohh I like that
Quick question... are you able to deploy the Chiron's rear wing during the turns??
I mean, seeing it trying to turn with a lowered wing was stressful enough XD
Is the wing functional in the mod?
The wing doesn’t have an animation but it’s simulated
good stuff my boy more like this ah
It makes sense, the Toyota is for circuit racing while the Bugatti is for racing and is not made for tight corners.
Outstanding race!
Video request: Australian Supercar VS Nascar VS DTM
As cool as it was watching the Chiron go sideways through the Mulsanne kink at 400 km/h, irl you’re hitting the brake through there. That probably goes without saying
I love your videos. Can we get Valkyrie vs. Jesko Attack on Le Mans or Spa
Thank you! Sure!
That Bugatti is sounding like a tractor from outside😂
Great video.
Good comparison😊
we want the bugatti bolide vs hypercar or LMP1 now
Very soon…
You should do this idea but with the faster LMH or LMDH.
they are actually slower than LMP1
@@MultiChorloexactly thats the point
@bigyeet8905It is not really the point of the regulation change, it is more to reduce costs
Sure, that’s gonna be a lot closer 😏
@@Lnklime no its The point of The comment, it will be closer
Request:
Toyota TS010 Group c vs Toyota AAR Eagle MK3 Imsa GTP
Much closer than I thought
Indycar road course VS Indycar oval in normal Le Mans
ROAD COURSE IndyCar VS OVAL Indycar At Le Mans WITHOUT CHICANES
ruclips.net/video/lQw8fOlJ5t4/видео.html
Way closer than I expected
If it wasnt for the long straights the difference would be ginormously shocking
There's me thinking it was a real-life battle.
I doubt that an LMP1 makes 0-100 in 1.9 seconds? 🤔😄 Not even made for standing starts
Easily, provided that it was allowed to use the hybrid when doing a standing start IRL (which I don't know). You get a 1000 BHP semi 4-wheel drive (350 BHP on the front, 650 BHP on the rear) on racing slicks.
@@Weerknuffelbeer The Toyota had hybrid activation and therefore 4wd only from 120 kmh, and later from 190kmh as I just read.
The Bugatti sounds like a John Deere. Haha
Request: Sauber Mercedes C9 vs Bugatti Chiron
The buggatti sounds like its idling in the corners.
Porsche 919 Evo vs Bugatti Chiron SS vs Red Bull RB19 at Spa, Le Mans and Nordshleife
Except Le Mans without chicanes, the Bugatti is not required on the other tracks because it doesn't stand any chance.
valkyrie is the SL lmp, not quite there but it’s really good.
Make them run 24 hours and see who wins
The Bugatti would have a catastrophic brake failure in lap 2 😅
The last qualifying in lemans without the chicane in 89 had a pole time of 3:15.040
Go go go go go Toyota!!!!
On Le Mans without chicanes, even Huayra, GT BY CITROEN, and Veyron all can go 80kph faster than TS050, although they used sport tyres.
Can you make a battle between the fastest ev (i reckon would be the new porsche taycan) with the fastest road car based race car (something like ferrari fxx version of their road going car or like pagani zonda r)
How about the Bugatti Bolide vs LMP1?
Why is the chrion's active aero not working
It’s simulated though
How about Bollide vs LMP1? with and without chicanes?
"Bugatti See-ron" 😭
Day 11 of asking for f1 vs dragster at pescara
Can a dragster even carry enough fuel for that? 😂
Interesting. Considering how close Bugatti was to the F1, I expected it to take this one. Though admittedly AFAIR, F1 lost even more on the straights, with something like 320 top speed
Now the question is, could the Koenigsegg Jesko beat the LMP1 around Le Mans without chicanes? It's almost as fast as the Bugatti on the straights, but significantly lighter and should be substantially quicker through the corners
Brutal
Once again. Braking after 280 mph and turning so cleanly is un believed😢.
Now do this but with both versions of the jesko
how did the front nose profile change mid race wtf for the TS050?
I saw it. Why would that???
This race was recorded in two takes. We forgot to change the nose for the second one!
The Bugatti taking that corner at 460....lol it would be in many pieces on the other side of the armco
Formula E vs something? Maybe a GT3 around a place like Brands Hatch would be fun
A Gen 3 Formula E would crush a GT3 so thoroughly it's not even funny. LMP2 or LMH/GTP would be a much more interesting opponent.
@@Weerknuffelbeer Just had a look at the Gen 3 Evo, very quick compared to gen 2. Probably on par with LMP2 like you say but it would very much depend on the track.
And this is one lap. Over a few laps, the Bugatti will need new tires quicker, and it takes a longer time to change them, too. Same for fuel, brake pads, and how about the temperatures?
Le Mans without schicane,great😊
Maybe if the lmp1 starts from the back of the grid
Is the Chiron on racing slicks like the LMP1?
The Toyota is a vrc car i think, the sound of it's on board
Nah, it’s a real Le Mans
TS050 the Le Mans GOAT
Bugatti: 2 MT
Porsche: 1 MT
Bugatti wins the Mulsanne strait, Porsche basically every corner. Physics can't be beaten...
un deuxième tour aurait été intéressant on aurait vu dans quel état sont les pneus de la chiron
It would be pretty close with a LMP2 car
No wing will hurt cornering . ask Peugeot
The LMP1 is so fast in corners. The Hypercar could be closer match.
That's next 😏
Bugattis are not track cars by far. They are engineering show off and good in straight line
I feel like this is the wrong Bugatti for a track lol
Do Rimac Nevera VS LMP1
Now do it for 24 hours.
Can you try with Bugatti bolied
Little kids are raging rn.
The Tourbillion maybe a great car but still often lose out to Super GT500 cars.
Video request: can a gt3 car beat an f1 safety car😂 (yes im back)
Easily. They've got equal straight line pace but a GT3 is much faster through the corners than the F1 pace car.
Welcome back! Here you have it: Can Any ROAD CAR Beat Its RACE VERSION?
ruclips.net/video/vC07nKERQ_U/видео.html
1:39 DEAD MOMENT 💀💀
Interesting to watch but I doubt the Bugatti could handle the high speed corners the way it did. Also the Bug’s brakes would be cooked after the first lap…
Bugatti weights twice as much as the T050. I whish we would build light weight sports cars again (at a reasonable price).
How do you expect a car with 16 cylinders and 4 turbos to be light 💀
@@KarenTondro It can't be light. But you don't need 16 cylinders to go fast. The Toyota uses a 2.4 liter V6.
I wonder how many laps the Chiron could do on fuel / tyres… 5?
The Bugatti can't keep that up for 24 hrs can it?😂
負けたけど公道走れる車検付きでLMP1の6秒落ちとかバケモノすぎんよ
H2R vs motogp please
Tyres would explode on Bugatti. Brake rotors too.