Unlike other reviewers you give your opinion at the beginning. Excellent. It makes me want to watch the entire video. With other RUclips reviews that make you watch until the end to hear their final decision is frustrating. I often just skip to the end. But for some reason I watch your entire videos. Weird how that works for me. Lol Keep up the good work.
Wow! This is the first video I found that actually explains how these thermostats are powered which is hugely important if you only have a 4 wire system. Not having to mess with batteries is a plus for Ecobee. Loosing the rotating bezel for the nest is a big minus for Nest.
Great video! I found it refreshing that you straight up admitted not knowing certain things or how to test efficiency etc, and just gave a personal honest review.
Thank you so much for telling me your preference straight away...It actually made me want to listen straight through. Im also glad ecobee came out on top, especially since I ordered it yesterday. 😂
@@camsecore The Learning is definitely a great feature, but for me after awhile, there's nothing for it to learn, if your work/life patterns are pretty consistent. So early on, it was nice to just adjust it and know that Nest was working behind the scenes setting schedules.
Here is the deal . the UX on the ecobee is outstanding. That being said, my ecobee could not adequaely control the temperature of my house. My house is a 2 story(~2600 sq ft) and zoned. The ecobee could only control the temperature to within a 10 degree range. The reason is that ecobee averages the temperature over a 20-30 minute period (confirmed by their engineering staf). The temperature that you see on the display and log files is the avergaed data and not the real time temperature. You can confirm this by placing a digital thermometer near a sensor and see the difference. I returned mine. Good luck.
Will ecobee work when WiFi is off? We’re seasonal homeowners and put WiFi on vacation when we’re gone. We would set heat/air to __ temp while we’re gone Also since we rent our home to seasonal renters I’m assuming they too would need to have the app too
I would be interested in a comparison video on the premium versions of each. I have an Ecobee 5 and I know I would learn something. This is by far the most in depth explanation video out there that I have found so far. I have watched many.
Contrary to intuition, multistage/multispeed HVAC systems are more efficient when they run longer (because they run at lower speed/effort) than single stage systems and the energy to shut off and then turn on a single stage system is higher. That's what several experts and HVAC companies claim, at least. Overall, I resonate with your observations... though right now I'm leaning toward a Honeywell T10 because the Nest (ugly version) doesn't work with mult-stage/multi-speed HVAC systems... certainly not ours.
If your bedroom gets disproportionately hot compared to your house, you need to adjust the vents around your home. Just having your thermostat use the temp of your room is a big waste of energy and the rest of the house will be much colder/hotter than should be.
@@camsecore But if your thermostat is using your overly hot room as the temperature to adjust, then it’s likely the rest of your house will be cooled much more than it needs to be; for example, your home will be cooled to 63 degrees as your HVAC tries to cool your room to 68 degrees. If you slightly close some of the vents around your house, they will get less air and your remaining open vents (room vents) will get more air, thus a greater temperature change. Tech is great but people often overlook mechanics. Great video tho and I hope you do the Ecobee5 vs Nest3 video!!! Cheers!
Excellent explanation about all products. Thank you! I have currently in my first floor one Nest Learning Thermostat because I don't have a C-wire. However, I was thinking about replace my second floor thermostat which is a very old one by an EcoBee and go thru all the problem of installing a PEK. So, if I have one EcoBee on the second floor and A Nest on the first floor will they work in sync? Will they talk to each other? Or it is more probable that they will create confusion to the HVAC system?
I like this video - as an apple eco system fan and having just got some minis I think the ecobee 3 is the one for me - My house has 2 heating zones and water heating - on the present system - Is a complete refit a big operation and cost effective?
Great video. I have used both and would never recommend a nest. If you travel and forget to change the batteries in the nest you could have problems while you are away. That's just one of many reasons why I would never recommend it. The ecobee works with many other systems, including my security system and my flair vents. If you are looking to buy a smart thermostat, check with the gas or electric company first, they sometimes have great deals.
Another thing to note is the Ecobee 3 has a PIN lockout whereas the Nest 2020 model does not. I have some jerkoff roommates that blast the temperature and I would love to lock them out of the thermostat. I am replacing my Nest with the Ecobee for this reason alone.
@@MoYammaBatFitch It works great. Also the ecobee has far more functionality. It's a better thermostat overall totally recommend. I just wish it had more color options
3:33 I guess for me this would be a downside with the ecobee. I prefer the very minimalist look of the Nest, assuming you can clean up your wall enough to not need the trim plate. With the rebates from my power company, the Nest is half the price of the ecobee. Also it looks like all Nest thermostats are now compatible with Matter, which should work with Apple HomeKit. Ecobee does still look like the better thermostat overall, but the Nest should be perfectly adequate for me.
As a reviewer, I'm pumped for Matter! Platform compatibility will be something I no longer need to talk about. But I wonder how smooth the transition will be with older devices. As of now, the only way to update a Nest Thermostat to matter via firmware is with an Android phone. I know iOS 16.1 made it possible to setup Matter devices inside the Home app, but have you tried it yet? I still haven't.
Great video man, glad I know about the c wire and what is needed. Ecobee is calling my name and being a Apple user it makes sense. Do you use Apple HomePod?
What about the c wire for the nest thermostat? I will have to run a new wire or add the power connector. And I don't know how to add the power connector to my heat only system. I have only 2 wires currently attached to my thermostat.
@@camsecore Wrong. Here's where the google website says a c wire is required. Yes, the thermostat works manually but no extra features work. No reason to get a wifi thermostat then. When a google installer came to my house and said he would not install the google power connector because it could hurt my system. I was happy google paid to send someone though. I did find a 24volt power cord I could attached to the c and ch to bring power to the thermostat. FROM GOOGLE Learn about the common or C wire Nest thermostats are designed to use very little power, and in many cases they can use your system’s heating and cooling wires to get enough consistent power. But sometimes, you may need to connect a common wire (C wire) or power accessory, like the Nest Power Connector, to make your system compatible. Unlike other wires connected to your thermostat, a C wire doesn’t control heating or cooling functions. It only provides constant power to your thermostat.
great informational video, thanks so much!! furnace went out and had the option to get a smart thermostat between one of these! Ecobee sounds great! ps. hope you don't mind me saying I think you're easy on the eyes.
Your not making this to clear. First you said if you don’t have a c wire you can still install it because the ecobee has two batteries. And in the next sentence your saying just the opposite . Unless I’m misunderstanding
I get that these are the most popular in the market, but why do most reviewers only focus on two brands? This does the consumer a disservice because people really end up thinking there are only two choices. Eventually, you are stuck with what the two brands offer instead of what works for you because the others have dropped off the map.
@@camsecore Oh man, don't put yourself down like that. But now that you have made this video maybe you can follow it up with a comparison of other brands. Just a suggestion. Also, my comment was not meant as an attack as you are only doing what everyone does. I only wanted to raise some awareness.
Ecobee thermostat never failed through all my years working as a hvac technician, nest on the other hand specially the new one are terrible. Don't buy nest I've seen them fail over and over again.
Just found your videos and I must say, I love to fact that you start with your conclusions and explain why. Great job!
Unlike other reviewers you give your opinion at the beginning. Excellent. It makes me want to watch the entire video.
With other RUclips reviews that make you watch until the end to hear their final decision is frustrating. I often just skip to the end. But for some reason I watch your entire videos. Weird how that works for me. Lol
Keep up the good work.
In addition to all the complements, the upper right mini icon indicating whether current chapter is about ecobee or nest is a great detail.
2023 and I’m glad I found your video! What a thorough explanation, just what I needed.
Love to hear that - thanks for watching!
Wow! This is the first video I found that actually explains how these thermostats are powered which is hugely important if you only have a 4 wire system. Not having to mess with batteries is a plus for Ecobee. Loosing the rotating bezel for the nest is a big minus for Nest.
I've been browsing these smart thermostat vids all day. U directly influenced my buying decision. I went with two nest
Great video! I found it refreshing that you straight up admitted not knowing certain things or how to test efficiency etc, and just gave a personal honest review.
Thank you so much for telling me your preference straight away...It actually made me want to listen straight through.
Im also glad ecobee came out on top, especially since I ordered it yesterday. 😂
Really enjoyed the thoroughness of this review. Glad I have the old Nest compared to the new ones based on that new design. Great review!
@@camsecore The Learning is definitely a great feature, but for me after awhile, there's nothing for it to learn, if your work/life patterns are pretty consistent. So early on, it was nice to just adjust it and know that Nest was working behind the scenes setting schedules.
Here is the deal . the UX on the ecobee is outstanding. That being said, my ecobee could not adequaely control the temperature of my house. My house is a 2 story(~2600 sq ft) and zoned. The ecobee could only control the temperature to within a 10 degree range. The reason is that ecobee averages the temperature over a 20-30 minute period (confirmed by their engineering staf). The temperature that you see on the display and log files is the avergaed data and not the real time temperature. You can confirm this by placing a digital thermometer near a sensor and see the difference. I returned mine. Good luck.
Will ecobee work when WiFi is off? We’re seasonal homeowners and put WiFi on vacation when we’re gone. We would set heat/air to __ temp while we’re gone Also since we rent our home to seasonal renters I’m assuming they too would need to have the app too
I would be interested in a comparison video on the premium versions of each. I have an Ecobee 5 and I know I would learn something. This is by far the most in depth explanation video out there that I have found so far. I have watched many.
The power extender is really really easy to install, I’d suggest going with ecobee over nest
Contrary to intuition, multistage/multispeed HVAC systems are more efficient when they run longer (because they run at lower speed/effort) than single stage systems and the energy to shut off and then turn on a single stage system is higher. That's what several experts and HVAC companies claim, at least.
Overall, I resonate with your observations... though right now I'm leaning toward a Honeywell T10 because the Nest (ugly version) doesn't work with mult-stage/multi-speed HVAC systems... certainly not ours.
If your bedroom gets disproportionately hot compared to your house, you need to adjust the vents around your home. Just having your thermostat use the temp of your room is a big waste of energy and the rest of the house will be much colder/hotter than should be.
@@camsecore But if your thermostat is using your overly hot room as the temperature to adjust, then it’s likely the rest of your house will be cooled much more than it needs to be; for example, your home will be cooled to 63 degrees as your HVAC tries to cool your room to 68 degrees. If you slightly close some of the vents around your house, they will get less air and your remaining open vents (room vents) will get more air, thus a greater temperature change. Tech is great but people often overlook mechanics. Great video tho and I hope you do the Ecobee5 vs Nest3 video!!! Cheers!
Excellent explanation about all products. Thank you!
I have currently in my first floor one Nest Learning Thermostat because I don't have a C-wire. However, I was thinking about replace my second floor thermostat which is a very old one by an EcoBee and go thru all the problem of installing a PEK. So, if I have one EcoBee on the second floor and A Nest on the first floor will they work in sync? Will they talk to each other? Or it is more probable that they will create confusion to the HVAC system?
I like this video - as an apple eco system fan and having just got some minis I think the ecobee 3 is the one for me - My house has 2 heating zones and water heating - on the present system - Is a complete refit a big operation and cost effective?
Great video. I have used both and would never recommend a nest. If you travel and forget to change the batteries in the nest you could have problems while you are away. That's just one of many reasons why I would never recommend it. The ecobee works with many other systems, including my security system and my flair vents.
If you are looking to buy a smart thermostat, check with the gas or electric company first, they sometimes have great deals.
Another thing to note is the Ecobee 3 has a PIN lockout whereas the Nest 2020 model does not. I have some jerkoff roommates that blast the temperature and I would love to lock them out of the thermostat. I am replacing my Nest with the Ecobee for this reason alone.
I’m doing the exact same thing for the exact same reason. I have the nest and ordered the ecobee3
@@MoYammaBatFitch It works great. Also the ecobee has far more functionality. It's a better thermostat overall totally recommend. I just wish it had more color options
Great review. It does work with the Google Home app though, correct?
3:33
I guess for me this would be a downside with the ecobee. I prefer the very minimalist look of the Nest, assuming you can clean up your wall enough to not need the trim plate.
With the rebates from my power company, the Nest is half the price of the ecobee. Also it looks like all Nest thermostats are now compatible with Matter, which should work with Apple HomeKit. Ecobee does still look like the better thermostat overall, but the Nest should be perfectly adequate for me.
As a reviewer, I'm pumped for Matter! Platform compatibility will be something I no longer need to talk about.
But I wonder how smooth the transition will be with older devices. As of now, the only way to update a Nest Thermostat to matter via firmware is with an Android phone.
I know iOS 16.1 made it possible to setup Matter devices inside the Home app, but have you tried it yet? I still haven't.
Great video man, glad I know about the c wire and what is needed. Ecobee is calling my name and being a Apple user it makes sense. Do you use Apple HomePod?
Great tip on selecting one sensor to control temperature!
Wut about mode for summer and winters?
Excellent overview! Well done. Thanks
Very good comparison and Explanation sir, without unnecessary expressions😊lol
I appreciate it!
How do you get sensors for this thermostat please?
Ecobee needs to add vent control to make this a more efficient system!!!
How many sensors can each thermostat use? Also, if I have a second thermostat on another floor can I set it use only the sensors on that floor?
@@camsecore thank you!
i live in texas is it possible if i install two devices that i can control them from one app, because we have two thermostat in houston
What about the c wire for the nest thermostat? I will have to run a new wire or add the power connector. And I don't know how to add the power connector to my heat only system. I have only 2 wires currently attached to my thermostat.
@@camsecore Wrong. Here's where the google website says a c wire is required. Yes, the thermostat works manually but no extra features work. No reason to get a wifi thermostat then. When a google installer came to my house and said he would not install the google power connector because it could hurt my system. I was happy google paid to send someone though. I did find a 24volt power cord I could attached to the c and ch to bring power to the thermostat.
FROM GOOGLE
Learn about the common or C wire
Nest thermostats are designed to use very little power, and in many cases they can use your system’s heating and cooling wires to get enough consistent power. But sometimes, you may need to connect a common wire (C wire) or power accessory, like the Nest Power Connector, to make your system compatible.
Unlike other wires connected to your thermostat, a C wire doesn’t control heating or cooling functions. It only provides constant power to your thermostat.
great informational video, thanks so much!! furnace went out and had the option to get a smart thermostat between one of these! Ecobee sounds great!
ps. hope you don't mind me saying I think you're easy on the eyes.
Great video. Thank you. Very informative.
Is eco part of ecobee pronounced like echo or economics?
Your not making this to clear. First you said if you don’t have a c wire you can still install it because the ecobee has two batteries. And in the next sentence your saying just the opposite . Unless I’m misunderstanding
Thank you
I get that these are the most popular in the market, but why do most reviewers only focus on two brands? This does the consumer a disservice because people really end up thinking there are only two choices. Eventually, you are stuck with what the two brands offer instead of what works for you because the others have dropped off the map.
@@camsecore Oh man, don't put yourself down like that. But now that you have made this video maybe you can follow it up with a comparison of other brands. Just a suggestion. Also, my comment was not meant as an attack as you are only doing what everyone does. I only wanted to raise some awareness.
OMG ! Ecobee the best 😊
Sounds liek WEcobee WINS! I gettin it.
wait... why does it need a C wire?
For power. Ecobee's don't have a battery.
Great content.
Did you choose Ecobee bc Ecobee has better affiliate compensation? 😹
I get like 2% on Amazon for either. This video is a few years old and I think this video has made me about $37 total.
Ecobee thermostat never failed through all my years working as a hvac technician, nest on the other hand specially the new one are terrible. Don't buy nest I've seen them fail over and over again.
Your eyes 👁👁
Google nest cameras, door camera, nest thermostat, are all crap, had all and waisted good money, now in junk.
You gonna stop talkin shhhht bout da budget Nest yo😂😁😅
Love the channel! #bitcoin