Scriabin - Piano Sonata No. 4, Op. 30 (Pogorelich)
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
- Taken from his legendary recital at Carnegie Hall in 1990. One of the best ever.
Full recital here: • Ivo Pogorelich ..Recit...
Speechless. Really! It's just too good...
This is the cleanest performance I have ever heard of the second movement. First time I actually hear the whole thing
This is the greatest interpretation of Scriabin 4th ever recorded, Pogorelich really understood the expressions necessary to make the poem alive. Pogorelich owns this piece.
Great comment. Not sarcastic.
The greatest interpretation of anything ever written for piano.
Sorry to be a party pooper, but have you heard Sofronitsky?
@@gnorn3607 Sofronitzky's is out of this world and it's impossible to prefer one of these two extraordinary interpretations over the other!
@@musicsubicandcebu1774 based
this recording is a miracle
Its incredible how so much can be said through just 12 notes
Might not be a canon interpretation, but boy am I glad that pianists like Pogorelich exist on this earth.
What is a canon interpretation then? This one is absolutely cataclysmic...
@@lordlouckster2315 Probably one like Pletnev who colors within the lines a bit more, and still maintains a massive sound in the end. Not complaining, it's nice to see a performance like this one as well, but I do feel some of the buildup is spent too early by the end. Pogorelich went more ff>FFF over the contrast a lighter pp-f would offer before the focosamente giubiloso. Still great to have an unchained apocalypse of a performance out there.
I actually shivered while listening to it, no other performances of this piece made me feel like that, Pogorelich is a genius
The most powerful piece of piano music ever recorded.
Wow. Just the most stunning melody in the first movement; the power in the second!
Pogorelich is a very unique pianist. In his early years he had a sense of courage and fearlessness like no other. As seen in this sonata, he is not afraid to play fast or counterpose the score’s markings. In movement two, he clearly plays at least a mezzo forte in many places that say pianissimo. But, I don’t care. People get too elitist about this matter. Just listen to the music! That’s the reason we pursue music, right? There is no such thing as a “correct performance.” For example, Rachmaninov’s own recordings of his own pieces often go against his own markings. Just listen to the music and stop being a stickler.
Such a stunning performance, I don’t have the words.
I almost screamed when I saw this!!! Thank you!
Wonderful recording!
Rare WhatIsMusic W 🎉
@@ferenc_l Nah, this seems to be the "evil" Whatismusic that, instead of just trolling, actually enjoys music. The accounts are different, and in this very comment section you can see a comment by the original about how Pogorelich "crashes into a wall" with all the momentum in the second movement (which, ironically enough, is among the only constructive things they have said).
@@commentingchannel9776 i have noticed the extra 4 at the end - it's indeed an impostor. Thank you for correcting.
this is fake DCH
it should be a crime to put ads in the middle of this.
Just got one.
Ora il mio pianista preferito, top.
this is my favorite video on youtube
me 2 I watched this at least 1000 times by now
Absolutely wild! Incredible interpretation as always from Pogorelich
Wow you actually did my request! Thank you so much!
Young Pogorelich, so good
Sublime, extatic. Indeed probably the best interpretation I've heard, although Scriabin doesn't fit that kind of language given that his music is so pluralistic and vastly different artistic choices can coexist without friction
One of my favourite takes, a lovely contrast with Feinberg's magnificent recording
Коронная пьеса моего репертуара. Интерпретация, наиболее близкая замыслу автора
The most fuoco and fiery rage, pure raw emotion put into this piece ever! I do also recommend Kenneth Broberg's rendition of this piece, also legendary.
I dont think this piece is about rage
Magnificent! Thank you!
wtf, the piano is soooooo sharp.
8:23 DAMN THATS INSANE
He could've easily added this to his Liszt/Scriabin album from 1992. Oh well!
2:20 Quietissimo is merseric... A completely reinvented Skrjabin, where the more rythmical sections are made fluid, and the more fluid sections are made rigid and hypnotic. A new vision.
I never knew quietissimo was an official term…is it really? Surely Alexander wouldn’t have used that?
@@i.ehrenfest349 In Italian, technically speaking, it could exists such a term. ‘Quietissimo’ (‘quieto’, which is like ‘quiet’ or ‘silent’, + ‘-issimo’, a suffix added to adjectives that means ‘a lot’ or ‘very’) would literally mean ‘very quiet’.
I don’t know if it’s an official term in music, but that wouldn’t be the first time Scriabin created a new term… (although in this specific case it is more an unusual word than a non-existent one)
So yeah Scriabin did surely love to use many weird terms to amplify the spiritual and mystical scope of his works.
@@bazettssj4 ok, I didn’t know quieto was a word in Italian. Thanks, bazett
Legend
Holy shit
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This is MAD
5:05-5.26 sounds very jazz and his interpretation reminds me of nikolai kapustin
Magic!🙃🙂😊🙃😎
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now go listen to his 2005 recording. maybe the funniest recording of pogo's I've heard...like ever
"The candle that burns twice as bright, burns half as long"
the audio seems corrupted in the second movement ... maybe repost? It's an ingenious interpretation, one informed by the later sonatas. Personally, I prefer the versions that see it through a more naive lens.
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개쩐다 형
Merci à RUclips de massacrer la musique : la publicité détruit efficacement l'atmosphère musicale
I never realised that Scriabin's 4th Sonata begin with a marce funebre. I am reminded of Celibadache conducting Bruckner's 8the Bus-ride that never turns up.
Care to elaborate on what you mean on marce funebre?
@@stravinskyfan
Whoops - Marcia Funebre. Elaborated?
@@stravinskyfan
May I point out that one little error does not totally invalidate an argument?
@@soutteruk1I didn't even realise your spelling error, why so aggressive? I asked a genuine question on what you meant by the particular description you provided.
@@stravinskyfan
Agressive ...?
The first movement was played with great sensitivity and colour, but the second movement was played with a single fortissimo dynamic. He conveys the ecstatic feeling very well, but it was just too fast and too one-dimensional.
yeah, in the development there's some pianos/pianissimos that he just demolishes. love the energy and it's one of the best codas I've heard of this piece but it's just not a correct intepretation
@@raisinbrahmsis there, objectively, even a "correct" interpretation of such things?
@@ArgentAlapini mean technically any intepretation is valid, but in my head if a composer writes piano several times, and you’re playing a solid fortissimo, i would call it incorrect in my book
More cowbell! 👍
While such fast playing might be exciting or impressive, it falls apart as the piece progresses, there are times you must slow down, and when you build so much momentum, you just crash into a wall.
True! But I like how much fury the second movement has with this interpretation. He can play it slower or gentler if he wanted, as evidenced by the first movement.
I mean it’s better than most other people’s Scriabin 4, but my main issue is how he disregards some of the dynamic markings and just blows through it
@@johnphillips5993 comparing trash against other trash is wasted effort
@@DeeCeeHaichhow did I predict you’d be here!
@@johnphillips5993 Scriabin's dynamic markings suck in this piece
Le chromatisme très subtil de Scriabin (rien à voir avec celui de Wagner, mais j❤ les deux)
Skrjabin schreibt für das Andante punktierte Viertel gleich 63 vor, Pogorelich spielt ca. 34, also fast halb so schnell bzw. langsam. Das ist nur mehr Interpretenwillkür, keine Interpretation.
Ich habe noch keine andere Interpretation gehört, die in diesen beiden Sätzen so viel Emotion und Schönheit zeigt, wie diese. Wenn du eine Interpretation in einem, deiner Meinung nach, passenderem Tempo findest, die einen genau so berührt wie diese, dann darfst du dich beschweren. Außerdem wurde diese Zahl wahrscheinlich nicht einmal von Skrjabin selbst geschrieben.
Yet another example of a complete loss of perspective in the comment section. It's hilarious how carried away everyone gets.
you're hilarious
Quit Slow for my taste.
Скрябина не следует играть по слогам!! У Вас не Анданте, а Ленто!! Где энергия и драйв?! Это исполнение, как в кино замедленная сьёмка!!
We still have e.g. the Gilels record to clean our ears. But making it different is good too.
Played in this way, this music is completely senseless - sort of musical analphabetism. But it’s not Scriabin’s fault. If the pianist provided sometimes a bit rhythm and phrasing, it would be fine.
What a boring way of looking at art
@@michaelberringer8595 these armchair critics are getting out of hand
@@blackforestt3717Для кого музыка, как Вы считаете? И для диванных критиков тоже.
@@Marinavalerevna comment something a little smarter next time
@@blackforestt3717 я не настолько умна.
The capacity of piano nerds to absorb this kind of bullshit music knows no bounds....
What's bullshit about it? Please enlighten us, oh wise sir.
@@prepad8841 Scriabin's awfully blah... flouncey expression, empty rhetoric... all incense, smoke and mirrors...
@@teebeedahbow Not really. His work exhibits a one of a kind artistic progression, rich emotional palette, an innovative harmonic technique, unique voice leading and handling of traditional forms, and remarkable pianism that's far from being merely "flouncey". I also don't see the value in leaving snarky, negative comments on videos you don't enjoy, but you do you, I guess.
@@prepad8841 If you like that sort of thing ;-)
@@prepad8841 but snarky comments are so much more fun… there’s too much pious solemnity and consensus around ‘classical’ music!
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