The New Sirui 35mm Anamorphic Lens is Fantastic!
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- How does this new 35mm Anamorphic compare to the original Sirui 50mm and is it worth buying? Lets find out! Sirui 35mm Anamorphic Lens: www.indiegogo....
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Sirui 50mm Anamorphic Lens
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My Review of the Sirui 50mm: • The Best Budget Anamor...
All footage was filmed on the Panasonic GH5s.
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Sirui 35mm Pros:
Affordable
Includes focus rings
Better color than the 50mm
Low distortion
Sharp for a 35mm anamorphic
F1.8 for shallow depth of field and low light
Sirui 35mm Cons:
Bokeh isn’t as oval as the 50mm
Slightly softer than the 50mm
DISCLAIMERS:
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This lens was supplied to me from Sirui free of charge. This review and it's content was not reviewed or paid for by outside persons or manufacturers.
Your talking head shot looks fantastic, Caleb!
Currently trying to convince myself that I'd get paid more if I use these.......
Great innovation so hands off to them but they need to create an 1.5x or higher so anamorphic characters are a lot more pronounced. If they do that and keep the price at a relatively low cost, that would really disrupt the market. Right now, the only anamorphic lens fairly new, thats 1.5x, and single focus is the aivascope 1.5x. That lens is great but it’s almost $3k. If they can make a 1.5x that’s even 1/3rd of that price, I bet prices of older scopes would start to go down.
You know you've been watching Caleb Pike for a while when you realized his kids are walking! Loved the video Caleb!
Thanks man!
Your pronounciation is quite descent. It's hard for westerners, but you totally nailed it.
'si' is not a big problem, "rui" is more like how you pronounce "ray" in english
Great review. And for $600.. no-brainer. Are those your kids? Unbelievably cute. 👍
Where did you find it for $600? I only see it listed for $800
1.33x stretch just isnt gonna cut it. It looks almost visually the same like a normal sphererical lens and just crop it in post
I really dont understand why everyone wants those flares. Not trying to hate on people like it okay every once in awhile but everyone thinks it's "cinematic" when in reality it's just distracting. I dig the wider fov with longer lenses but the flares ruin it for me. This is a bandwagon I'm going to avoid lol.
Love your stuff. Great video as always but that color difference is a total deal breaker. The whole point of having a 'family' of cine/video lenses is consistency from lens to lens across the entire focal length range. Even cheap-o Rokinon Cine DS lenses have maintain a very consistent look across the entire line. They're not anamorphic I realize, but aside from the additional width, these seem to lack many of the characteristics of a proper anamorphic lens.
yeah that oval bokeh was almost none existent, on the 35mm it was very light. On the 50 it was a lil better
hope they do a 2x one day. IMHO, 1.33.x just doesn’t have that look that 1.5x, 1.75x, and 2x give. great review tho sir. I appreciate you
Yeah same here. I feel like with 1.33x you might as well be using anamorfake mod or something like that and it will be pretty much the same
I think it’s because you can’t do a traditional 2.0x squeeze on 16:9 sensors because once you desqueeze they’d be comically wide. You have to have a 4:3 ratio built into the camera sensor/software to get a useable image, and not all cameras have that function in the target price range. 1.33 has just enough of the look to set it apart from standard lenses, but only to a trained eye rather than a casual viewer
Chase Stine not necessarily. the BMPCC4K has a 17:9 sensor and in a recent firmware they incorporated a 4:3 anamorphic mode by simply cropping the middle 4:3 area of the sensor. even if you use a 2x scope on a 16:9 sensor, that would yield a 3.55:1 final image which you can still crop down to 2.39 or 2:4.1. I have 1.5x scopes that work great with my 16:9 cameras resulting in a 2.67:1 that I can easily crop to 2.39/2.40 without losing much. anyways, I think it’s great that a company like Sirui is working hard to churn out these anamorphic lenses and hopefully more companies will do that. for now, i’ll be here in my corner tinkering with my DIY solutions 😆
Carlo Timothy in my ignorance I always forget how many awesome features the BMPCC has. There’s a lot of solutions to the big squeeze of anamorphic, most I didn’t even know till you replied. After all us said and done I think sirui is just like “you want Anamorphic? Here is the most simple/cheap way to get it”. Thanks for the info on the 2x squeeze!
That would be so good!
Sirui means “A Sharp Mind” or “the Sharpness of a mind” in Chinese, it's actually a good name.
谢谢，我居然没想过有这个意思
@AVRO filmvideo idiot mount choice? I have this lens and no problem with the mount at all. I actually love it! It is genius
Great review. Quick question, by any chance do you know how to make it work with sony a7s iii, without sacrificing 4k? If you cam help would be awesome. Thank you
I just wish there was something for EF. I’m still stuck with rentals for my Ursa Mini Pro. I want affordable anamorphic :(
It can be in EF.
I'm quite disappointed by lack of fuji x adapter.
Same
Not that many people film on fuji :)
Filipas Well, they had a fuji version for the 50mm.
Presumably they worked out it was a lot cheaper to make one version, m43, and just provide adaptors for other formats, than make multiple versions. (They also don't get stuck if one version sells poorly.)
Now I know where I spend my next 800 bucks.
BloddySk My bad.
@@potatofilmstudio Well after conversion in Canada it's $803 so you are not far off.
Paul Lewelt In switzerland its 750 and thats about 1100 canadien dollars.
Before buying check Celere HS PL MOUNT prime lenses
John Smith okay but they are very expansive
The lenses are labeled Sirui, why do you keep calling them Sooray? That's not even in the vicinity of the vowels that they used o_O
damnit i just bought the 50mm hasn't even made it to my house yet
Han getting more screen time in Caleb's videos than he did in the new trilogy!
With all the manufacturers making full frame cameras now I'd love to see a larger format version of these in the future
This!
Lol, that'd cost a fortune.
The full frame cameras ought to be able to crop in for movie lenses like this one, PL mount lenses, etc
@@custommadename only problem is I have an S1 and neither of these are available in L-Mount
@@CodyStoner20 The S1 is such a great camera, though, that it doesn't need these lenses!
Great work Caleb! I wish this lens had an EF or RF mount option. Imagine what you could do with it on a Red Komodo or a C300 mark iii.
It’s available with RF mounts now
I have a question here: when 1.33 times 3:2 (sensor ratio), it's 1.995, not 2.4. How do you calculate the number 2.4 after stretching? If 1.33 times 16:9 (video ratio), it's 2.36, is this what you mean by 2.4? I've never used an anamorphic lens before. I'm just confused. Thank you.
I don’t understand why have this lens if the background is barely stretched and the look is pretty much the regular lens. Nothing anamorphic in it at all
i'm thinking the same. It looks like a wider lens just cropped from the top and bottom to match the ratio. Limiting you to only a f1.8 and you loose that data, that you can use to maybe show a bit more on top or bottom.
You can that nice line flare thou.
its not a 2X its a 1.33x thats why
Shazamm the iPad Producer of course. But it’s the tech specs nobody cares about. The visuals simply have no anamorphic character
@@TackJorrance Well yes you are compressing pixels but this way you still lose data. Because when you combine 2 pixels into 1, that's it, you can't revert the process.You can't magically now the exact values that were in those 2 pixels. And this one is even worse, you loose 1.33px so it's not a perfect fit on a binary level.
Bug hey, flares look nice, right ?
@@ShazammtheProducer ulanzi phone lens looks more anamorphic then that. haha. I agree with the gang, Sirui lens doesnt have any anamorphic look besides the flare, rather put a fishing line to fake a flare then spend so much cash.
Just ordered! Good job putting your video out when they asked people to! Bet that is hard to wait! As always, stellar review.
I just got my 50mm Sirui Anamorphic yesterday. My first thought was, "Gee, I wish there was a 35mm one". Then I saw this video on my YT homepage. Suffice it to say, I paid for it. They say it ships in September 2020. Which will be nice.
I've started shooting test footage with the 50mm. And I really like it so far. At full open, I like the sharpness as its not too sharp or digital-like. So, I'm looking forward to the 35mm.
What’s the 35mm focal length on a MFT Camera?
@@husainfoolath4287 35mm is 35mm. I assume you're talking about full-frame equivalent calculations for better comparison, in which case it's a little more complicated than for a spherical lens. As far as the general physics and vertical plane go, it's the normal crop factor for that sensor size - so two times for MFT = 70mm. However, on the horizontal plane, you obviously fit in more image information mit anamorphic when you desqueeze it. So, it gets wider by the nominal anamorphic factor (i.e. 1.33x). So, on the horizontal plane, it would cover a field of view equivalent to slightly more than 50mm.
They need to have a Fuji X adapter imo. I'd order it today if they had it. I have the 50mm and I really like it. I have a B+W +2 diopter for mine for better close focus.
what if you add the mft to fx adapter?
@@maxkitaev3524 a m4/3 to Fuji adapter? Havent seen any
Max Kitaev I have xt4. I thought that’s larger than m43?
Le Ba Vu indeed. I mean with manual lenses there’s always a way. Btw i’m seeing the X-mount version on amazon
Going forward I think we need 2x, not 1.33x. Yes, these lenses are /amazing/ and I love them as a option, but the Anamorphic look is already subtle enough without reducing it further. You always hear "oh but the image is too wide with a 2x on a 16:9 sensor, and you lose pixels when you crop the sides off!" which is true, but mathematically there is actually zero difference between having a 4:3 sensor in your camera already /or just cropping the 16:9 sensor in post/. You get the same result. If anything, having an unnecessarily wide image before cropping means you can re-frame the image if it's a little off, which can actually save shots. A lot of Hollywood movies are shot in Anamorphic 2.66:1 to leave room for re-framing, and cropped to 2.39:1 for final output.
We just need camera settings or external monitors with the preview option "desqueeze & crop" so you can actually see what the final 2.39:1 image is eventually going to look like while working on set with a 2x lens on a 16:9 sensor. Heck, you could even offer an option to see a 2.76:1 preview, just in case people really want to use some of that extra image being captured on the sides. That's not even an option with 1.33x! I dunno, it's weird to be getting affordable real anamorphics and still somehow miss out on the real anamorphic look...
Sirui in the next video. I'll leave.
That lens is for 4:3 aspect ratio, so a full frame camera would have to be set to crop mode. Would be nice if Sirui made made a version for full frame 16:9 aspect ratio (Nikon z6 4k).
Yep, exactly my case. But I am eager to try this on my z6s anyway :)
Me and my wallet are at war over whether I buy this lens, even though I know nothing about anamorphic properties and because I have the kit 12-60 on my GH5
How can I use this on 6k
Really looking forward for Sirui to make a 2x anamorphic lenses, that'd be great.
Is that YOUR beautiful family?? Bro, you are blessed! It's great to have more DSLR Video Shooter content. I learn a lot from you. Peace!
Nice, I just got a $40 lens. I might buy this in 6 years
It’s a Canadian brand translates to sorry in normal English
Wow, the footage of your kids is fantastic.
The Children are beautiful! Awesome review, the grade looked great too!
Everybody else talking about A7sIII batman skills and R5 true burning logs (to put in a nice fireplace) and Caleb in a cool lounge talking about anamorphic lens, FP and old vintage cameras and taking a cold drink.
Alright we are here. LET'S GO💪🏿💪🏿
As a BMPCC 6k owner these lenses make me sad
SUCKA!!!!!!!!!!
j.k. sorry for your loss
I can't seem to find an adapter to mount this on a canon RF body... Planning to get R5 and I assume that this lens will pair well with that camera...
The R5 has an APS video option that makes 4k from 5.2k, which would be great, but the flange distances of the mounts differ by only 0.75mm, so I assume you're out of luck...
Caleb, great video, thanks. I got an alert from B&H just now-they have one of their "Deal Zones" happening with this lens, and it's only $499 USD. This is a genuine bargain, I feel.
I really hope in the newer batch of lenses both 50 and 35 are the same color, otherwise it makes it almost impossible to buy a set of those just to have each of your shots have different colors just because you changed focal lengths.
If they come out with a 1.75 or even 2x anamorph then sign me up. BTW that was a serious over load of cuteness there little doggy and all. Cheers to you and your wonderful family and for hanging around RUclips for all these years.
Watching this video after I got it for Black Friday at $400 saving more money than the backers and getting it in 3 days....
I understand why backing a project is dope but I've been burnt too many times by company doing shady shit. Just wait 2 years and get it for an even better deal.
Hi Caleb, the 35mm Sirui you used in your review, did you mount that on your m43 camera and did you notice any play on the lens mount? Thank you.
everyone asks themselves this question :) and does it really bother you when we make a video?
@@comptoirdugeek7213 If the play can affect its use, focus and aperture movement, focus/aperture pulling, image horizon, stability, resale value, then yes. If reviewers are claiming there is no play, and then the production release, there is play, then it is an issue. The price of the Sirui may be cheap in respect to Anamorphic lenses, but 700-800 USD is still alot of money especially during these times. If I paid for a brand new automatic car where I am forced to drive it like a manual, then it would bother me :)
@@therenderer4726 I hope it's not a problem and it's just a bad series...
My cart right now has 5 rokinon lenses (4 pack + 12mm ultrawide) ds x Cine lenses......But....It would only be $500 more for 4 total Sirui AM lenses and I'd need an EF to E Adaptor...is the extra $700 total I'd have to spend worth it? 😮
It's Japanese so you just say it like the vowels suggest. Sue-roo-iy (sue the person, Roo the kangaroo, i as in the i in the "knights who say Ni"!
Wonderful. You tested diopters to get closer… did you try an extension ring? Same drawback; you lose infinity… but no extra glass to mess up the image. But maybe those don’t work with anamorphic?
is it works with BMPCC 6k?
Not a fan personally of the 1.3x just doesn't create enough anamaorphic characteristics imo. I still prefer using actual projection x2 lenses. Not only is the flare better but the imperfections and slightly softer image really works.
only thing they are missing is a 16mm! OMG
35mm anamorphic equals 35mm/1.33=26mm spherical for same width and same aspect ratio. Not the same as 35mm spherical.
but why does it not have gear rings built in?
beautiful shots Caleb, definitely your product videos are a piece of Art ! awesome job buddy !
I'd love if someone made a 35mm EF mount for the BMPCC 6K for arouns $600.
Good video. Is there a way to change the adapter on these so we can us it on both E mount and Fuji for example, when I look on Amazon it's just either or but I thought you mentioned adapters being available.
great review :) and the footage of your children and the grading was amazing :) looks very filmic i like :)
Thanks for this review. One thing though, I hit the link you had for the Diopter, and ordered it thinking it would work with this lens. It turns out its a 77mm diaopter, and I believe the lens has a 67mm filter thread. It doesn't seem there is a SLR Magic Achromatic Diopter +1.8 in a size that would fit the 35mm Sirui lens. If that is the one you use, is there some kind of adapter or something that I am missing? (Also, as I look closer at the video, I see a 72mm size on something so now I am even more confused). Sorry for the long question. Thanks.
Hi! Urgent question if anyone can help me. I would like to get the Sirui 35mm F1.8 anamorphic lens 1,33 APS-C but I have the impression that it exists only in 4/3 mount. On my side I have a Sony A6000 so I need an E-mount (Sony). On the official website when I select sony mount it adds an extra adapter ring to mount on the lens which remains a 4/3. Will I have any loss ? Also is it still interesting to choose this lens with my camera ?
5:00 - BRO THAT DIOPTER IS AMAZING. Thank you so much for that tip I would have never thought of it
Do you have a link to where I can order?
I’ve playing around with Nikon’s Z6/Atomos Ninja V ProResRAW for while now and it looks like Nikon/Atomos have lost focus... along with Apple not providing a profile for FCPX there’s no workflow from shoot to color grade with consistent results...
So IF you wanna do “Super35” anamorphic what are better systems? Sony? Fuji? Canon?
Is there any way to get this for an EF or EFs mount... 😰😭😭
HI man, Thanks for the interesting video. I
I have a quick question though... Can I use those lenses on a mirrorless Canon M50? ANd, if I can, what kind of adaptor/mount would I need? any help would be greatly appreciated
Hi dear please suggested me cinematic lens for Sony a6400 .
Hello. I bought the 35mm Sirui lens and the diopter straight from your B&H link.
But I ran into an issue... the diopter doesn't fit the lens. It's very clearly too large.
I'm not super knowledgeable with cameras yet, so maybe I'm missing something obvious, but could someone help me out here?
I just noticed the diopter in the video says +0.33 while mine says +1.33, but this is the one in the link..?
When You shoot anamorphic would you do the whole clip/film I’m this format or just some parts? Who this works in practice?
Depends on what you are going for. Aspect ratio like anything else should convey an an emotion and should be a choice based on these aspects rather than a technical gimmick. That having been said, the simplest (and safest) use would be to have to have the entire clip/film in one format so as not to cause a disturbance to the viewer... But you could use different aspect ratios to go "into a flashback" or you could use a 4:3 aspect ratio within an anamorphic (or 16:9) ratio to suggest " archival footage". Hope this helps.
@@gmaxstudios thanks. I have noticed recently that a lot of TV productions use this mixture. Works well if applied appreciate to the scenes. Most of the viewers are not even able to detect. This only could be noticed if you a video nerd 😉
So out the box this'll fit the Panasonics but is there an adaptor for the Fuji XT3?
I have a Metabones Canon EF to MFT on my BMPCC4K! I love my 50mm, and the 35mm is going to be fantastic. As you could've guessed, I have a Sigma 18-35 for this rig too. With the metabones, my crop factor is reduced to 1.42x I believe. I saw that there is a Canon EF-M adapter, but is there any way to make this work with the Metabones correctly since both are supportive of APS-C? Thank you!
I'm in the same boat with my GH5s, just ordered this lens today with the additional EF-M mount, if no one has answered this by September, shoot me a message to remind me to answer your question.
Would it be possible to mount this on a BMPCC6K using the EF-M?
Rando Reviews Thanks man I appreciate it! I’ll remind myself
Visual Theory Films I looked into it, seems like the distance in the lens internals messes up the focus. Seems like EF-M is exclusive to super compact mirrorless stuff, so it’ll look fuzzy. Generally seems like EF-M does NOT match compatibility with standard Canon stuff. But you could put og EF lenses on an EF-M body with a Canon adapter, EF to EF-M
@@DeanMilan do you know it there are EF-M to EF adapters out there?
This looks like a cool lens but 1.33 is just not enough for me. I guess if you want really subtle, this is great. But 1.5 and 2 are more true to the anamorphic look
I agree, especially having a m4/3 mount ... 1.33 would’t make it enough wide on m4/3 sensors!
So besides the lens mounts this APS-C Sirui is an identical build, right? Could the mounts be switched with a third party one? Currently I'm working on M43, but I'm considering switching to another mount in 1-2 years without having to purchase a whole Sirui set again. Surely there must be some customizing options here?
i think its pronounce *_she-ruu-weee_*
Hmm.....the desqueezing looks not realy like 1.33. I gues 1.27 is looking more natural on this lens. I am still not convinced of the new lens. I own the 50mm and it´s really 1.33.
Noob here :: As you mentioned this comes with an EF-M alternative, but my camera has a EF mount. Can the EF-M be used on my BMP 6K Pro? Great vids btw!
Great review man. I don't see myself using these two lenses in their current state but i'm eager to see where they go with this concept. I would like at least x1.5 anamorphic and larger censor coverage. Maybe throw in some more cine lens features like fixed metal tooth focus and aperture gears etc. while keeping the price decently low and these could sell like hell.
The video about this lens are showing everywhere on RUclips ! Let's goooooo thanks for this review Caleb !
Very great video ! How is possible to put this lenses (35mm and 50mm) on my BMPCC6K ? Thank's
i have a Panasonic Lumix G9, when desqueezed will the Sirui 35mm MFT image be more similar to a 70mm or 52mm full frame
Yo man, been watching you on and off for quite some years now, and I must say it's been a while, but the quality of your videos have improved greatly 👌 not a lens for me, but still kept my interest. Have a great day :)
Hello... Nice video...
Can I use it with my Sony Alpha 58..
Plz plz tell me...
Two beautiful kids in your video! The lens is great too, but the kids are cuties!
Which aspect ratio have you used in this video?
This made me want the 50mm instead, thanks for the heads up
Is it if I just shoot spherical 24mm and crop top and bottom I'd get similar view like with 35mm anamorphic right?
Can someone explain the math to me here? A normal 35mm m43 lens is a 70mm equivalent in FF, but I don't think that the case when using anamorphic lenses. Am I wrong?
can you use it with the BMPCC 6k pro? can only find videos for the 4k but there is a EF mount version of it...
I finally have fast enough wifi to watch in 4k and wow it is amazing
I rent the lens kit for a test and i found that is just a toy lens, build quality is average, the x1.33 anamorphic look is very bad, the flare is a gimmick , lens consistency between different focal length is inexistent, the mount tolerance is terrible: Is unusable for any serious task.
Is completely my fault, first time that i rent a cheap lens kit in my life and the gods punish me. Yes is cheap but is not even worth the low price.
Did you lose weight? Looks my sharp!
Ordering one now! Thanks for the review! Cheers
Just don't see the huge benefit of using these. If I want a wider fov, I'll use a wider lens and use an anamorphic sequence to edit with. Bokeh is nice, but I think 99% of people watching won't even know the difference.
What camera would you recommend for this lens and both video and photography use?
I was strongly considering getting these for photography and location scouts. Would love to know more how they look in the still format.
why are the auto-captions in russian? can you change it to english for one of your loyal deaf viewers? :D Better yet, you can get professional captions for your videos for $1/minute at REV.com!
Great video, how does the miniature figurines compare to real size actors with Napoleon complex in terms of bokeh?
Customer service non-existent fyi
Siriu straight up sucks
So the 50 and 35 are incompatible because of colour difference and bokeh difference. Then why did they release this lens? It seems useless.
Way to go Sirui for bringing true anamorphic to the masses.
Hi, whats the mm équivalence (wide) of the 50 and 35mm a on spheric lens? Thanks
For the horizontal plane, the anamorphic factor (in this case 1.33x) comes into the equation. Your horizontal field of view would be wider by that factor. Just divide the focal length given on the lens by this factor. So the 50mm would turn into about 38mm as far as the horizonal plane goes. Other than that (being the vertical plan and its general physics), it behaves like a lense with the same nominal focal length. On top of that, you get the "crop factor" based on the sensor size you're using this on (1.5 for APS-C and 2 for MFT), if you were looking for the full-frame equivalent numbers.
Can they pay you to say that you didnt get paid by them....? Mhhhh inceptionnnnnn
When RUclipsrs start by saying that they are not getting paid to review, they actually do. Don’t be that guy with c*nt written in your forehead.