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Imagine you walk into a regular class at your university and your professor just gives you the deepest life lesson you've heard. How rare and valuable is that?
@ You sound like you must be very happy with your life. I sincerely apologize that some quotes from this video are actually helping people improve their lives.
When I’m feeling weak and worthless I search out Peterson’s videos. It’s like having a conversation with my dad. He puts my head back and I can focus. There is a wise bluntness in the truth he speaks. I need this in my life. ❤️
@@UnknownUnknown-gn7bu The outer circumstances (in your case, it’s monsters) can’t hinder the ability of you to choose or act upon suffering virtuously.
You can choose how you remedy the suffering. I did not ask to be here. My mother cast this suffering onto me. I can stop the suffering by killing myself for example, but I can't choose how I suffer. Thats silly.
Yes you do because it is impossible to be conscious/alive without suffering. We can lessen the suffering. We can almost beat it back to nothing for very short periods of time, but it's still there.
Seán O'Nilbud lol and yet has more wealth and respect than you yourself will ever garner.
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@@gabrielhill995 The respect of failures like you is worthless. He's the leader of an army of nebbish losers. Now go pray to your junkie king you pathetic no mark.
Seán O'Nilbud lol so triggered, are you mad you haven’t garnered any respect? Let see tell me what exactly is your discomfort with Peterson. I personally don’t care their are plenty of people in the world that have character failings whom I respect. Why should I consider a man prescribed a medication who had an adverse effect to it thought’s any less valid. By that logic anyone whom is homeless is beyond reproach
Nietzsche said it too that the true superman is a man who has given up his resentment and hatred. Those 2 things are shacles on the human spirit. Make yourself better!
A man filled with hatred, sadism , greed and malice will always end up being unprofessional and always end up broking his oaths filled with great desire to do harm.
Mike R It really helps me all the time, because I dislike it when people sugarcoat things. Everything is going to be okay, life will get better etc. etc. I totally understand and comprehend their well intentioned efforts, but it just makes me feel worse. When I started getting into philosophy and religion, there was a fuzzy and vague feeling in the back of my head, like I was onto something, like there was some truth that I was on the verge of discovering. That feeling remained and when I found about Jordan Peterson, he spoke it into being. Life is suffering. Everything suddenly made sense. This is the fundamental truth that religions speak of and they seek out how to cope with it. The realization was extremely intimidating, but it made me excited, somewhat ironically. I don't understand how people can mistakenly confuse happiness to be the true meaning of life. Live long enough and you realize that just doesn't seem to be the case. Happiness is fleeting, and there is no point in grasping for it. Through a meaningful life one can bear the suffering. It's unfortunate that society tells us that happiness is what's worthwhile, albeit unintentionally. But yea man, this always helps me too for some odd and crazy reason
I was in a dark place, and Peterson's claim life is suffering resonated with me at that time. But eventually we all have to find a way out, and we do get to a better place, and you realize life is not suffering as Peterson has convinced himself and others along the way. Its been 3 years since your post, does this message still resonate with you as it did before? I truly hope you are in a better place.
@@selvamthiagarajan8152 the way out is playing the most magnificent game you can while you wait. He does give you an higher purpose. Suffering is only the premise
Current college student here attending Zoom University, I really needed this lecture. Life is really strange and tough at the moment, and I am suffering from loneliness and lack of motivation/purpose. Shit is really bad rn, but we will bounce back stronger than ever. "To live is to suffer, to survive is to find some meaning in the suffering."-Nietzsche. Now, get back to work! Get off RUclips now while you still can, stop procrasturbating like I am atm.
I'm just about to start my first year of university....I really can't stand having to attend online classes and study 24/7 without seeing my friends and do what I want. Instead we have to stay at home without doing nothing pretty much interesting and I just don't have any motivation at all to keep and keep studying without being able to live my life properly. I really don't know what to do and right now I just feel trapped in meaningless existence :(
My pain is physical... Can even move my hands anymore... Every second of my life the last 3 years I live in pain.. Sometimes I really wish life wasn't suffering
Everytime i feel like losing myself I'll go watch Jordan Peterson's lecture. Its always a slap on the face for me but in a way I feel motivated because he reminds me that I have control of myself.
Life sure is suffering no doubt. I got that message loud and clear from my Catholic upbringing. God forbid you have a moment of pure joy, because there's a miserable moment right around the corner waiting to squash that joyous moment flat!
RJC 72 Get through it, so the joy next time around us even more joyous. Challenge the pattern of time in which suffering and joy occur. Keep it all in flux.
RJC 72 suffering is a part of life but we are made to become over comers if we will ourselves to. Only we have control over ourselves to overcome a problem or situation. No hurdle is too high, that God can't help you to overcome. I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. Not sure where it is located in the Bible this verse. That is called hope. Never give up hope. It says in the Bible we are to live life victoriously and righteously. Jordan Peterson has a lot of opinions on life but we need to make our own decision on how we view life. If there's something in life you are upset with then only you can change it. Attitude is everything. No one likes being around a negative sourpuss.
Dunno, my life sucks because my brain doesn't process reward properly. But I can still find the will to go on and live. I want to. It's like 80% suck and 20% worth it, but screw that, I wanna go on. Next year maybe it'll be 70% suck and 30% worth it!
Every now and then I come here and watch this video, my mother has recently been diagnosed with a brain tumor, seeing someone so active and someone who loves life so much, suddenly being on a bed not able to move nor speak takes a huge toll on you. This video always reminds me how to be strong especially in front of her.
Suffering is not necessarily pain, physical or otherwise. It is instead the allowing or permitting of pain to occur. Women's sufferage was females being allowed to vote. I think Buddha was saying all life is pain. Ergo even the pleasure he experienced, he saw or felt as pain. But he was just a mortal man. In the end, the Zen Buddhists are heading towards nihilism or nothingness. Christians are heading toward a glorious eternity filled with never ending joy and pleasures we can't even imagine.
Everyone’s life is the exact same there’s the odd few who get lucky and live life exactly how they imagine but then most settle for a life they don’t want to live I feel like that everyday and I’m only 15 I feel like I’m trapped in the mind of a 50 year old who’s lived full of regret
There are some problems that no can explain or stable those by telling something. Unfortunately im going through it,everyone will say "god only can save you" Im not telling that they mean or not mean by saying those words but they only tell this,even this man also. PEOPLE,dont think that you will not cry hard as there no more tears coming out,you will in that position one day. My english is not good. But you got my point,we are getting ready to cry without god. Praise the lord 🙏
I admire and respect Jordan. He has a sincerely righteous compass and while being humane . I just sometimes wonder if he is projecting his own suffering too much. I do that a lot. It is what it is I guess. I wish him and everyone well. 👊🙏
In a world of ego-self, love is made vulnerable and thus love suffers. It is inevitable that it will. And to me THAT is the reason why we are here. It is not just for the soul to experience itself for experience's sake (this is not just a game as some allege) but to experience its love and to experience its love under duress when it is being tested to the hilt. The soul is developing and in this context its love is known, is experienced, is purified, be matured. And the soul advances. If the soul was not developing then suffering would have no justificaiton except for the perverse pleasure of somebody who wants to witness suffering for suffering's sake.
For me the question is, do I necessarily have to lose my mind before I have to lose my life? Life forces all of us to play what amounts to a game. Ironically it's a game that none of us can win. Each of us is destined to lose it ultimately. Even so, I have this "crazy" idea that if I can somehow intentionally manage dying a death that was neither preceded by my insanity nor determined by my suicide I actually don't lose the game after all, and in not losing the game, life doesn't "win" the game and beat me. I guess it's just my way of trying to cope with an insufferably inconvenient existential situation. I don't know.
I really like the name! The only better one I could think of is "Something you 'once' said." Anyways I wish that the suffering you experience in life is made worthwhile, friend.
You equate inevitable dying to loosing life. Why? I life well lived with integrity and honour is not loosing at life just because you are definately going to die. Waldo Emerson said What is success? To laugh often and much; to win the respect of intelligent people and the affection of children; to earn the appreciation of honest critics and endure the betrayal of false friends; to appreciate the beauty; to find the best in others; to leave the world a bit better, whether by a healthy child, a garden patch Or a redeemed social condition; to know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived. This is to have succeeded! Our pursuit should not be happiness. The purpose of life is not to be happy. It is to be useful, to be honorable, to be compassionate, to have it make some difference that you have lived and lived well. Whatever your circumstances if you can get out of it. If you cannot get out of it. Bear the burden. Pick your poison like Peterson will say. People survive horrible circumstances if the can find meaning and reason. Is that not the message you hear when you listen to him?
It isn't complicated. The question is, how much can I stand before I either lose my mind or lose my life by way of taking my life? And the answer is, just only so much. That's all.
I'd absolutely have loved to hear Professor Peterson and Christopher Hitchens have a talk. In my opinion 2 of the greatest geniuses in the last 25 years
Hitch is pure rationality (as I would describe) I find Peterson provides platitudes in unique language and also draws upon an inconsistent view of the prime reality. He cant even answer the question "do you believe in God"
Hitchins was an atheist from what I understand and absolutely abhorred Christianity and JP sees some value of the teachings Jesus. So I think they would clash, although I think Jordan would probably be more open minded the Hitchens.
Or you could chill. Watch some standup comedy, eat some noodles and enjoy some things that you can enjoy. Some lives are very hard and you can't really do that, but if you adopt peterson's seriousness, you may end up like I did. Tired and sad all the time. If your life isn't shit in the material sense tho, your suffering is probably mental and you wont solve it with drugs. Seek pleasure, nothing wrong with it.
'All you have to do is give up your resentment and your hatred. I know that's a hard thing to give up, because you have plenty of reason for it.' Truth. And these are among the hardest of all things to transcend, but vital if one is to ascend spiritually. The irony of growing up in the land of milk and honey is that we lose all sense of suffering, so we embark on acts which increase our suffering so as to expand our spirituality...so suffering is very much the path to increased spirituality.
"You're all in, This will kill you." 1. How could I be all in If never wanted any of this in the first place. I didn't get to choose to be born. 2. Death is by no means a threat, to someone who understands the seriousness of Suffering, it's a welcome relief when compared to the constant dragged out pain we are expected to endure in life and the sad pitiful act of putting up facades of positivity and lame excuses to justify our suffering. People who survive suicide don't fear death, they fear surviving and returning back to life. Thats something to think about. I just want out.
There are strict guidelines, so I am not suggesting anything, but there are physically painless, cheap ways. I would recommend you to live, though. Try, try and try again. It doesn't seem like it when you're in it, it seems impossible, but there's stuff beyond the suck. Trying can be as simple as trying to get out of bed. Sometimes that was my victory. A shower. A washed dish. Today, I have achieved much more. Small steps. Literally.
What I noticed a lot about him is that he projects A LOT from his own life experiences and makes them rules for life in general which is not very scientific. In fact most of his lectures are not very scientific. Its mainly things he personally believes. I like his lectures and teachings a lot and there is definitely a lot of truths in there but he makes a lot of absolute statements.
@Pyro_OG goo.gl/search/Definition+of+science science, noun, ˈsʌɪəns, intellectual and practical activity encompassing systematic study of structure and behaviour of physical and natural world I'd have thought that science is ever evolving with different paradigm shifts. So it's not about constants and fundamental truths.
There is a realm of facts and a realm of values. In the realm of facts science reigns supreme.. but it is not equipped to answer questions of human value.. that takes the universe of conscious experience. Wisdom is not a science.. it's an art.
The forces of the mind are difficult to control. Even for Mr peterson. He is indeed bringing his own life experiences into this argument. Life is not suffering. If it were then nothing could exist. The idea that life is suffering by default is a confused idea without roots in the deeper underlying truth. Also, it is not true that modern-day luxuries and conveniences are there to reduce pain. They are there because someone decided that there was a way to make life more amazing. Not because a pessimist decided that life is unbearable. You can't be creative and negative at the same time, it is impossible.
Jordan Peterson is wrong about this one. Life is not suffering. There is no inherent suffering to existence at all. There is no solid evidence that sentient life was created to suffer. That would be immoral, wrong and absurd in a universe as justly ordered and amazing as the one we occupy.
No God doesn’t threaten you. when Maryam (As), one of the most perseverant women, wished for death, this was God’s reply to her: As she said: , ‘I wish I had been dead and forgotten long before all this!’ (23) It was replied to her: ‘Do not worry: your Lord has provided a stream at your feet. Chapter 19, verses 23 and 24 Holy Quraan God, did not teach her to forcefully be positive, instead He was there for her with words of love. whenever you feel down, don’t let anyone force you with their toxic positivity. Do not let them blame you for feeling any heavy feelings. Instead, learn to mourn as you want, and seek God’s love which is very near to you, because this is what will only let you heal. choosing to die is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Even if you keep relapsing, trust me you’ll feel better one day . I suggest you watch Therapy in a Nutshell here on youtube, and start analyzing your suffering through her videos. Much love❤️
I find this the best piece (or how you call it) of Jordan Peterson! Does someone know what speech of him this is from, if there is a complete recording? ♥
I hope I learned something from sufferings... "Men who suffer not, attain no perfection. The plant most pruned by the gardeners is that one which, when the summer comes, will have the most beautiful blossoms and the most abundant fruit." ~ Abdu'l-Baha, Baha'i Faith
I always say the same for myself. The suffering has been so great. But I often wonder if the results were justified by the means. Does the learning lesson and wisdom justify the suffering. It's like the 2 hr anticipation of 2 minute roller coaster ride. (almost)
Life is like a pc some are lucky to have the best of the best parts so they can play high resolution games And those who are not have to suffer even more. Fun game god. Thank you
@@JuanHernandez-ry9dr The suffering Christ speaks about is suffering for his name. If you suffer because you proclaim his name and stand for Him, then *that* is truly blessed. Because you are suffering for bearing the name of God. God who suffered *for you.* No one is greater than his master. If the world hated Jesus, then you can be sure, the world will hate you. Then you know you are of the truth. That is standing for the truth, standing for the life Himself in the way of evil. If you suffer for doing bad things, there is no glory in that. You can use that suffering to learn, but apart from that, there is no good in it. It is a shameful thing. But if you suffer for the truth, which is the life Himself, the light, then there is glory in that. That is blessed. And judgement day will declare it. And eternal life found in you, in a personal relationship with God for eternity, will declare it. And the evildoer who caused you to suffer, will be left with nothing but death for eternity.
Remember no one has or will suffer more than Jesus Christ and he was God on the Earth. So no one escapes some suffering. The good news is Christ suffered on the cross to take our place because he knew we couldn't bear it. He was resurrected from the grave to prove there is a glorious life after death. Praise God from whom all blessings flow.
@@jacksonmorganfroghin4815 3 days on a cross sounds like a walk in the park. Laughable compared to what people suffer worldwide with hunger and wars. I'd swap with Jesus on cross for 3 days if it meant I wouldn't have to work for a living
@@chrisr.6638 Have you seen the movie, The Passion of the Christ? The physical part was no picnic but the worst part was when he bore all the sins of humanity from beginning to end and actually became sin. As humans, we can scarcely understand what that means to a sinlessly perfect person. He took the punishment that all humans should have experienced throughout eternity. He did that out of love for us even for the ones who will reject him. You cannot minimize his pain but you can avoid that pain by accepting his pardon. Why would you not? For me, it's a no brainer. Maybe the worst part of his suffering was when his heavenly Father turned his back on him and their fellowship was broken. When Jesus said "it is finished" he meant the sin debt was all paid for. A Roman soldier who witnessed it said, "Truly this was the Son of God!" He was resurrected by his Father to prove that there is an afterlife. It doesn't matter what you have done, God will forgive you based on the fact that his son Jesus already paid for it. Would you pay for a very expensive meal that had already been paid? Of course not.
The most beautiful thing that there could ever be. I cannot describe to you how beautiful it is. The beauty of it is staggering. It's so beautiful you won't even care about suffering. It's so beautiful you won't care about the buddha. You won't care about christ. You won't care about any spiritual teachings. You won't care about non-duality. You won't care about arguing with people. You will not even care about other people being real because it's just so beautiful. What you are you're so beautiful. Reality is so beautiful. Consciousness is so beautiful. Truth is so beautiful. God is so beautiful that it is it's own reward. It's an infinite reward. It's the only thing you really want.
I do not know why but at the time of making this comment I had for some reason search "to live is to suffer". Why? I am awake at 250:am and decided I'm not doing fentanyl anymore (I am smoking 20, 30 mg Percocets a day minimum and as many as 50) I have decided to embrace withdrawals and refuse to use another time. I'm feeling masochistically suicidal because of the immense suffering I have been voluntarily enduring for 12 hours. and now I watched this. This is mind blowing, profound, and life changing. giving validation to the things I have already known, but refused to take in. Let's see where this journey takes me. I'm going to die most likely from this addiction. Maybe I'm going to overcome it, and become stronger than almost anyone I currentley and will know personally.(narcissism aside overcoming this cold turkey at home is something I can promise almost all opioid dependant people at my severity do not and cannot accomplish. Dicipline is going to be key. but my shame and depression from 15 years of heroin use to this even worse fentanyl use as well as all the despicable things I have done from choosing this life of the streets is now bringing me at a genuine and forever life changing crossroads for better or worse and i feel it in my gut. Pun not intended. the moment of me finally deciding I am ready to be free from this is something I actually did not want because getting high made me feel like I was in heaven knowing I was trading my soul/humanity for every bit of use. I may still rot in hell when I die but at least opiates won't be a factor anymore. And a lifetime of true pressure makes diamonds or breaks you into a useless pile of nothing. Pardon the cliche talk but if you haven't experienced opioid dependancy then it's very unlikely you haven't known true suffering. And I wish that most didn't die from this lifestyle.
The only way we can have the self actualizing capacity to care for the greater good is if we take responsibility for our own flaws and weaknesses. Once those are overcome we have much more self control
Our #1 reason we suffer is because we have no reason to live now. Our existence was always to survive. Not starve, not freeze to death in the wilderness. Finding clean water, not getting eaten. Now our survival is al.ost guaranteed. We don't know what to do with ourselves now. Find a purpose. Go with it. Don't stop. No matter what. Destroy everything in your way. Become a god.
@@thesaksham my theory has changed a bit since the last I commented. A lot of people misunderstand life. They only want good things to happen to them. They never want to struggle. But to struggle is to live. To find one's true purpose. No one else can find it for us. People want to be given the perfect job where they will be happy and have all the money. That will not fall into their lap. Sometimes they will never find it. But if you sit and do nothing then you will definitely never find it. The same goes for finding a lover that is perfect for them, a best friend, a favorite food, etc. One must go and find that thing. One must also become a master of themselves. Master of their emotions, of their mind, and take care of their body. Only then can one begin to master other. But one only has so much time to master. We are so identified with what our base desires want like food, sex, play, and we stray from difficult things like work, competitiveness, and learning. Our brains have become so complex, we don't even use them to their full potential. We waste all our time complaining about everything around us treating everything like it is a pest in our path. But we are all in our own way. Caught in a web of our own emotions, our ego and super ego and Id. If we can use these as tools for good instead of evil. We are all imperfect, but perfect in our own way. We just need to not be afraid of facing obstacles. To be willing to learn new things. To listen to different voices and different ideas. Stop saying "this is the right way" or telling someone how they should live their life based on your experience. It's so hard not to judge people. maybe that is the knowledge of good and evil. We think we know what is good and evil, but everything that happens is just nature. Nature cannot be good or evil. What is good to one is evil to another. We are still just trying to survive, but also striving for something more. We search for meaning. Maybe there is no meaning to life. Maybe life is just art. Reality is the canvas, and we are the paint. Conciousness is the paintbrush. I feel like I could go on forever. I'm sure a lot of this just sounds like mumbo jumbo.
@@compfycloud9877 great philosophy indeed. Specially I agree with the 'go and find' part. I 'm 18 and now this love factor kicks in. I'm slowly trying and going to meet different people and girls and talk with them. Initially I was very introverted. I'm interested in knowing you bro, where do you live, what do you do ,etc ? And that existence logic is correct, and it justifies why people are facing existential crisis more than ever.
@@thesaksham yea the love part can be awkward because again love has infinite meanings. I was in a marriage for 10 years where I wasn't allowed to go anywhere do anything because that meant I didn't love my wife. I had to be with her all the time. Mentally, emotionally manipulated me, telling me I should be someone else. I wasn't "normal". Everyone has their fair share of unfortunate events. I had had enough. Of I'm going to have a bad time it's going to be on my own terms. I am from a very small town in southwest Michigan. Born, raised, still live. Finally going to college at 36 years old. Better late than never right? Going for i.t. networking and cyber security. Alan watts, neitche*, Freud, Kierkegaard. Listen to a lot of philosophy the past couple years. Watch a lot of anime lol. I've always been sensitive to the world and I thought it was because I was a sensitive little bitch like people told me. Turns out I am just more aware of things than the average person. Now I have someone who loves me for who I am and loves how aware I am of the world. So she knows I'm Not just another insensitive asshole that just wants sex, money, etc Yes we need to find our true purpose. Money will not bring us true happiness. It is just a distraction. It does not even truly exist. It has no real value. It used to until the gold standard was thrown out.
@@compfycloud9877 great . I am a 17 yo boy from India, I had these existential crisis type things so I wondered about the meanign of life, and even had a few health problems which gave me a great pain, that led me to thinking "why are we here ? just to suffer ? ". Yeah money stops mattering after a certain threshold I agree. BTW, I'm also greatly interested in computer and tech stuff (especially crypto). Yeah being more aware than average is a sufferring but it's a power.
That’s cool and all, but can there be times when I’m not suffering for once? Like, I’m fine if I have to suffer, just as long as it earns me some time during which I’m not suffering. It doesn’t seem that ever happens, though.
Well, thank you for increasing my depression and anxiety!! I don’t know what the big new groundbreaking simple ideas that this man gives!! Nothing but bullshit and complicate things more and more!!!
I feel like I can't play the game of life like I am all in because I can't accept the suffering of life voluntarly. I have had suicidal thoughts sice I was 6 years old and attempted it multiple times, I still have suicidal thoughts eventhough I went through therapy so my question would be : why should I accept the suffering of life voluntarly if I can just end life and all the suffering that comes with it? Of course there is that much good I could achieve If I got my act together and let go of my hate, bitterness and resentment and wanted to life the best life I can live but why should I accept the suffering that comes with it if I value less suffering higher? I really want to live and I really want to get better but it just feels like the suffering is so huge and overwhelming, I can't stand straight with my sholders back anymore, I can't hold the weight of living.
I wonder the same thing. Why should I play this game, the odds are always stacked against you, the chance of suffering is significantly higher than that of happiness. We are just told to "cope". What the fuck does that do? Easing doesn't stop the pain, it just drags it out further and further till your mind goes numb. We never had a say in this damn game. I was born against my will, indoctrinated into a culture and religion that forced me to feel good about my suffering. Why should I keep playing? I never wanted ANY of this. I Never asked to be born. So Why? I can't stand waking up everyday in constant pain. I just want to stop existing and everything I tried to make that happen ends in failure. I just want out man. I REFUSE TO PLAY.
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Not really in my opinion. The sooner you can accept it, the sooner you'll stop feeling lost or disappointed when something bad happens. That's my personal experience at least. :)
But isn't reproduction just a force of nature/biology? Aren't you just passing on your suffering to your child until your child gets children etc.? Isn't it cowardly to act as nature dictates you to, just so that you can bear your own suffering, distracting your mind by caring for a child? What if your children die? Maybe I am too much of a Schopenhauer.
Sounds like an excuse to not get your life in order mate. You can think all you want. The reality is that you are here, suffering like everyone else. Nature dictates to be complacent and save energy, aka. Being lazy. If it was otherwise, people wouldn't have so much trouble procrastinating.
@@elmeromero999 That wasn't my argument. I specifically talked about the point of getting children. Why can you only "get your life in order" by getting a child/children? Why am I lazy, just because I am looking for good reasons to do things in life, isn't that the opposite of lazy? Isn't someone who gets children just because other people think that's the thing to do (mentally) lazy?
@@elmeromero999 there are barriers in life that you gotta overcome to get yourself in order. I get that, thats what creates resentment. You lose the game even though you play by the rules and he doesn't. As for getting your live in order well... it's mostly a question of if you wanna get it in order and there are lots of reasons not to, but it's gonna hurt in the long run. Being lazy and complacant is alright and saving energy too if you wanna help others aswell.
@@chrisr.6638 Do you mean my argument? It's not because of a lack of wealth why children suffer, or not the only reason. But life itself is suffering. And it seems egoistic to put that burden on another human being just to deal with your own suffering. And not everyone is fit to having children, adults often have their own problems to deal with, and that often takes all the energy you have. But also getting children can be great, if you can provide the proper conditions and you try to minimize their suffering as much as you can. Because it's your responsibility that your children have to suffer in the first place. It's a difficult question, I think poeple should use their own brains, instead of following simple claims like "get your life together". There is truth in that, but it means completely different things for different people.
The whole point is this... If u consider life (life in this world) alone, if u r a person who does not believe in life after death or Hereafter, then man life sucks. In such a case, life is unfair, becz life in this world is nothing but injustice and unfairness. Those who sleep on beds of money continue to sleep like that, those who beg for a piece of bread to satisfy days of their hunger will die of hunger and malnutrition. The best concept to life, the best understanding of life was brought by Muhammed (the Prophet of Islam). He preached that life in this world is a test for the hereafter. Each and every good deed we commit, each and every bad deed we commit, whether it be in public or private, are all recorded in the fabric of space time and will be brought in front of us in the hereafter and we will be held accountable for our actions. And of course this test is conducted by The One who created us, The creator, controller and sustainer of all dimensions, The Almighty God, u can call him by any name but to him belongs the most beautiful and majestic attributes. Life in this world is illogical and unjustified without a hereafter. Even if u don't believe in any of these, still making the concept of Hereafter a part of ur understanding and seeing life through that window will give u perseverance to pass through this unjust life and it's sufferings (which u have to go through anyways) So Believe in One creator and Believe in life after death, ur life will become more meaningful, u will get a good reason to do good and stay away from bad...
I have my 'act' together but our daughter seems hellbent on destroying the family. With drugs violence abuse and shit friends coming and going at all times of the day and night. And yes we've tried the police and mental health but she cunningly slips their grasp every time. Our little cup of suffering!!!
I do like the rest of the video on why integrity is the true meaning of life, but I do not understand his basis of calling children the meaning of life at ~2:30. Why go through so much risk and effort bringing a life of suffering into this world of variables when you can spend the same amount of time changing the world yourself?
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Someone who understands 🙏💯❤️
Imagine you walk into a regular class at your university and your professor just gives you the deepest life lesson you've heard. How rare and valuable is that?
The student are lucky to get this oppurtunity of life education.
"There's some games you don't get to play unless you are all in.." what a quote.
@Chris Gustafson Marriage, Love, Practicing religion,...
You losers are so weak.
JP is an epic gamer behind the scenes we all know it
mhm
@ You sound like you must be very happy with your life. I sincerely apologize that some quotes from this video are actually helping people improve their lives.
When I’m feeling weak and worthless I search out Peterson’s videos. It’s like having a conversation with my dad. He puts my head back and I can focus. There is a wise bluntness in the truth he speaks. I need this in my life. ❤️
Same here. You took the words right out of my mouth.
Me too…
“You have power over your mind - not outside events. Realize this and you will find great strength.”
- Marcus Aurelius
I watch this once per week, average. 8min 24sec of pure gold.
@@ts757arse respect
@@ts757arse Huge respect. I look up to people like you.
Teachings of buddhism
clean ur room
@@ts757arse Shut the fuck up you tedious bag of whining selfish shit. You're a waste of good drugs.
Life is suffering but you get to choose how you suffer. Powerful stuff Dr. Peterson
The world is to filled with monsters for one to choose how he or she suffers.
@@UnknownUnknown-gn7bu The outer circumstances (in your case, it’s monsters) can’t hinder the ability of you to choose or act upon suffering virtuously.
You can choose how you remedy the suffering.
I did not ask to be here. My mother cast this suffering onto me. I can stop the suffering by killing myself for example, but I can't choose how I suffer. Thats silly.
Suffering is consciousness.
Brandon Dupuis what about nightmares?
Don Chello Sleep is still considered consciousness, or "another form" of consciousness.
Brandon Dupuis is that you in your bio pic?
Brandon Dupuis Do you cease to exist when you're no longer suffering?
Yes you do because it is impossible to be conscious/alive without suffering. We can lessen the suffering. We can almost beat it back to nothing for very short periods of time, but it's still there.
Everyday we shuffling
Everyday we suffering (and overcoming it)
Interesting how he grapples with the light and dark of his own mind and how that manifests in his speeches. To me he's brilliant.
Seán O'Nilbud lol and yet has more wealth and respect than you yourself will ever garner.
@@gabrielhill995 The respect of failures like you is worthless. He's the leader of an army of nebbish losers. Now go pray to your junkie king you pathetic no mark.
Seán O'Nilbud lol so triggered, are you mad you haven’t garnered any respect? Let see tell me what exactly is your discomfort with Peterson. I personally don’t care their are plenty of people in the world that have character failings whom I respect. Why should I consider a man prescribed a medication who had an adverse effect to it thought’s any less valid. By that logic anyone whom is homeless is beyond reproach
He explained my mind in detail
Nietzsche said it too that the true superman is a man who has given up his resentment and hatred. Those 2 things are shacles on the human spirit. Make yourself better!
A man filled with hatred, sadism , greed and malice will always end up being unprofessional and always end up broking his oaths filled with great desire to do harm.
I'm suffering emotional right now and this really, really helped, even though it seems like a downer.
Mike R It really helps me all the time, because I dislike it when people sugarcoat things. Everything is going to be okay, life will get better etc. etc. I totally understand and comprehend their well intentioned efforts, but it just makes me feel worse. When I started getting into philosophy and religion, there was a fuzzy and vague feeling in the back of my head, like I was onto something, like there was some truth that I was on the verge of discovering. That feeling remained and when I found about Jordan Peterson, he spoke it into being. Life is suffering. Everything suddenly made sense. This is the fundamental truth that religions speak of and they seek out how to cope with it. The realization was extremely intimidating, but it made me excited, somewhat ironically. I don't understand how people can mistakenly confuse happiness to be the true meaning of life. Live long enough and you realize that just doesn't seem to be the case. Happiness is fleeting, and there is no point in grasping for it. Through a meaningful life one can bear the suffering. It's unfortunate that society tells us that happiness is what's worthwhile, albeit unintentionally. But yea man, this always helps me too for some odd and crazy reason
I was in a dark place, and Peterson's claim life is suffering resonated with me at that time. But eventually we all have to find a way out, and we do get to a better place, and you realize life is not suffering as Peterson has convinced himself and others along the way.
Its been 3 years since your post, does this message still resonate with you as it did before? I truly hope you are in a better place.
@@selvamthiagarajan8152 the way out is playing the most magnificent game you can while you wait. He does give you an higher purpose. Suffering is only the premise
it's dark but above all it's honest.
It’s relieving because it’s true
Current college student here attending Zoom University, I really needed this lecture. Life is really strange and tough at the moment, and I am suffering from loneliness and lack of motivation/purpose. Shit is really bad rn, but we will bounce back stronger than ever. "To live is to suffer, to survive is to find some meaning in the suffering."-Nietzsche. Now, get back to work! Get off RUclips now while you still can, stop procrasturbating like I am atm.
I'm just about to start my first year of university....I really can't stand having to attend online classes and study 24/7 without seeing my friends and do what I want. Instead we have to stay at home without doing nothing pretty much interesting and I just don't have any motivation at all to keep and keep studying without being able to live my life properly. I really don't know what to do and right now I just feel trapped in meaningless existence :(
How many classes end in a round of applause? Just an indication of how special jordan is
I laughed my ass off when he said “maybe you could justify your wretched existence that way” 😂
Me too...I busted out laughing lol
I got a chill down my spine
Thats the meassage/thought one get for teaching others.
Depends on how you are born. That's not something you can justify.
I'm watching this right now for the first time and I'm literally crying right now
My pain is physical... Can even move my hands anymore... Every second of my life the last 3 years I live in pain.. Sometimes I really wish life wasn't suffering
Go carnivore for at least 6 months. Saved countless people.
Jordan, you are a TRUE Prophet. Amazing, just amazing.
"The answer to human problems is integrity of individual." That's nice statement!
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Suffering is unavoidable. But how you suffer, and why you suffer is completely up to you most of the time.
Everytime i feel like losing myself I'll go watch Jordan Peterson's lecture. Its always a slap on the face for me but in a way I feel motivated because he reminds me that I have control of myself.
Life sure is suffering no doubt. I got that message loud and clear from my Catholic upbringing. God forbid you have a moment of pure joy, because there's a miserable moment right around the corner waiting to squash that joyous moment flat!
RJC 72 Get through it, so the joy next time around us even more joyous. Challenge the pattern of time in which suffering and joy occur. Keep it all in flux.
RJC 72 suffering is a part of life but we are made to become over comers if we will ourselves to. Only we have control over ourselves to overcome a problem or situation. No hurdle is too high, that
God can't help you to overcome. I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. Not sure where it is located in the Bible this verse. That is called hope. Never give up hope. It says in the Bible we are to live life victoriously and righteously. Jordan Peterson has a lot of opinions on life but we need to make our own decision on how we view life. If there's something in life you are upset with then only you can change it. Attitude is everything. No one likes being around a negative sourpuss.
Dunno, my life sucks because my brain doesn't process reward properly.
But I can still find the will to go on and live. I want to. It's like 80% suck and 20% worth it, but screw that, I wanna go on.
Next year maybe it'll be 70% suck and 30% worth it!
Every now and then I come here and watch this video, my mother has recently been diagnosed with a brain tumor, seeing someone so active and someone who loves life so much, suddenly being on a bed not able to move nor speak takes a huge toll on you. This video always reminds me how to be strong especially in front of her.
This man is a genius!! EVERYONE should listen to him, and learn it and live it!
Buddha said life is suffering and enduring.
Suffering is not necessarily pain, physical or otherwise. It is instead the allowing or permitting of pain to occur. Women's sufferage was females being allowed to vote. I think Buddha was saying all life is pain. Ergo even the pleasure he experienced, he saw or felt as pain. But he was just a mortal man. In the end, the Zen Buddhists are heading towards nihilism or nothingness. Christians are heading toward a glorious eternity filled with never ending joy and pleasures we can't even imagine.
Suffering is actually a mistranslation of the Buddha, dissatisfaction is a slightly better translation but still not a perfect replacement for duhkha
The answer to the problems of humanity is the integrity of the individual. Such a simple, insightful and powerful idea.
This is the best video to ever be put on the internet.
@ If that's what you take away from that video I truly feel sorry for you.
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this one is better
Everyone’s life is the exact same there’s the odd few who get lucky and live life exactly how they imagine but then most settle for a life they don’t want to live I feel like that everyday and I’m only 15 I feel like I’m trapped in the mind of a 50 year old who’s lived full of regret
Same !!
Hope you are well. You are just 17! I turned 30 this year and it hit me like a ton of bricks.
So wellspoken,you've made me see my own blessings...i bet you can't count yours with all the people you help.
There are some problems that no can explain or stable those by telling something.
Unfortunately im going through it,everyone will say "god only can save you"
Im not telling that they mean or not mean by saying those words but they only tell this,even this man also.
PEOPLE,dont think that you will not cry hard as there no more tears coming out,you will in that position one day.
My english is not good.
But you got my point,we are getting ready to cry without god.
Praise the lord 🙏
I feel like learning something new everyday about life by watching a Jordan Peterson’ s video.
I admire and respect Jordan. He has a sincerely righteous compass and while being humane . I just sometimes wonder if he is projecting his own suffering too much. I do that a lot. It is what it is I guess.
I wish him and everyone well. 👊🙏
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In a world of ego-self, love is made vulnerable and thus love suffers. It is inevitable that it will. And to me THAT is the reason why we are here. It is not just for the soul to experience itself for experience's sake (this is not just a game as some allege) but to experience its love and to experience its love under duress when it is being tested to the hilt.
The soul is developing and in this context its love is known, is experienced, is purified, be matured. And the soul advances.
If the soul was not developing then suffering would have no justificaiton except for the perverse pleasure of somebody who wants to witness suffering for suffering's sake.
Much better than Life Is Pain, House MD
This man will have a seat right next to God in Heaven.
This is the best video on RUclips.
God, I wish this guy was my teacher.
He is
Right?! Teacher, neighbor, father, friend- he is awesome
Life is suffering especially when listening to Jordan
Constant suffering is the way of life.
For me the question is, do I necessarily have to lose my mind before I have to lose my life? Life forces all of us to play what amounts to a game. Ironically it's a game that none of us can win. Each of us is destined to lose it ultimately. Even so, I have this "crazy" idea that if I can somehow intentionally manage dying a death that was neither preceded by my insanity nor determined by my suicide I actually don't lose the game after all, and in not losing the game, life doesn't "win" the game and beat me. I guess it's just my way of trying to cope with an insufferably inconvenient existential situation. I don't know.
Something You Said What an insightful comment...and it resonates with me.
I really like the name! The only better one I could think of is "Something you 'once' said." Anyways I wish that the suffering you experience in life is made worthwhile, friend.
You equate inevitable dying to loosing life. Why? I life well lived with integrity and honour is not loosing at life just because you are definately going to die. Waldo Emerson said What is success?
To laugh often and much; to win the respect of intelligent people and the affection of children; to earn the appreciation of honest critics and endure the betrayal of false friends; to appreciate the beauty; to find the best in others; to leave the world a bit better, whether by a healthy child, a garden patch Or a redeemed social condition; to know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived. This is to have succeeded!
Our pursuit should not be happiness.
The purpose of life is not to be happy. It is to be useful, to be honorable, to be compassionate, to have it make some difference that you have lived and lived well.
Whatever your circumstances if you can get out of it. If you cannot get out of it. Bear the burden. Pick your poison like Peterson will say. People survive horrible circumstances if the can find meaning and reason. Is that not the message you hear when you listen to him?
And why do you think you loose your sanity before dying?
It isn't complicated.
The question is, how much can I stand before I either lose my mind or lose my life by way of taking my life?
And the answer is, just only so much.
That's all.
We do not know our own power, fear keeps us from that power.
"There's some games you don't get to play unless you are all in.."
one of the most powerful and incredible youtube videos. Repeatedly watching this exact video everyday and still gaining something each day
How fortunate are the students who have taken JPs classes. They could be much wiser if they really listened!
I'd absolutely have loved to hear Professor Peterson and Christopher Hitchens have a talk. In my opinion 2 of the greatest geniuses in the last 25 years
Robbies Vlogs maaaaan id give my left nut to have seen that! Wouldve changed the whole fuckin world by the end of the discussion lol
They would just disagree about as much as Sam Harris and Peterson would. Not only was Hitchens an atheist, if I'm not mistaken, he was also a marxist.
Hitch is pure rationality (as I would describe) I find Peterson provides platitudes in unique language and also draws upon an inconsistent view of the prime reality. He cant even answer the question "do you believe in God"
Hitchins was an atheist from what I understand and absolutely abhorred Christianity and JP sees some value of the teachings Jesus. So I think they would clash, although I think Jordan would probably be more open minded the Hitchens.
I love this man!!!
Yes... Right... EXACTLY!
Sefa _ Leven is Lijden
What ?
Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well.
@@Choinkus explain it please, unless you're trolling us lol that would be funny actually
For those who don't know, a music producer and DJ known as Sefa used voice clips from this lecture in his song "Leven is Lijden"
Sefa sucks.
What an amazing individual
So life is just coping with how shit my existence is?
@@toby2581 And if you don't pretend it's meaningful, you get to dying
Or you could chill. Watch some standup comedy, eat some noodles and enjoy some things that you can enjoy. Some lives are very hard and you can't really do that, but if you adopt peterson's seriousness, you may end up like I did. Tired and sad all the time. If your life isn't shit in the material sense tho, your suffering is probably mental and you wont solve it with drugs. Seek pleasure, nothing wrong with it.
'All you have to do is give up your resentment and your hatred. I know that's a hard thing to give up, because you have plenty of reason for it.' Truth. And these are among the hardest of all things to transcend, but vital if one is to ascend spiritually. The irony of growing up in the land of milk and honey is that we lose all sense of suffering, so we embark on acts which increase our suffering so as to expand our spirituality...so suffering is very much the path to increased spirituality.
So even if we have all that we wanted? We still would desire more and more and more. And so we turn a good thing into a bad thing.
I've been listening to him all the time
This is the painful truth pill I'm swallowing right now
Hitting this beer enjoying the game of life right now in November 2020 YOLO!!!!!
"You're all in, This will kill you."
1. How could I be all in If never wanted any of this in the first place. I didn't get to choose to be born.
2. Death is by no means a threat, to someone who understands the seriousness of Suffering, it's a welcome relief when compared to the constant dragged out pain we are expected to endure in life and the sad pitiful act of putting up facades of positivity and lame excuses to justify our suffering.
People who survive suicide don't fear death, they fear surviving and returning back to life. Thats something to think about.
I just want out.
I tried to kill myself but it failed now im just 10x worse and I just want to lie down close my eyes and just die
There are strict guidelines, so I am not suggesting anything, but there are physically painless, cheap ways.
I would recommend you to live, though. Try, try and try again. It doesn't seem like it when you're in it, it seems impossible, but there's stuff beyond the suck. Trying can be as simple as trying to get out of bed. Sometimes that was my victory. A shower. A washed dish. Today, I have achieved much more. Small steps. Literally.
There is stuff beyond the suck..
I think that is beautiful...
I just wish I could see beyond the suck..
Ty
God Jordan Peterson pre 2020 is so amazing
What I noticed a lot about him is that he projects A LOT from his own life experiences and makes them rules for life in general which is not very scientific. In fact most of his lectures are not very scientific. Its mainly things he personally believes. I like his lectures and teachings a lot and there is definitely a lot of truths in there but he makes a lot of absolute statements.
@Pyro_OG I said there is a lot of truths in his teachings not that all of it is
@Pyro_OG goo.gl/search/Definition+of+science
science, noun, ˈsʌɪəns, intellectual and practical activity encompassing systematic study of structure and behaviour of physical and natural world
I'd have thought that science is ever evolving with different paradigm shifts. So it's not about constants and fundamental truths.
There is a realm of facts and a realm of values. In the realm of facts science reigns supreme.. but it is not equipped to answer questions of human value.. that takes the universe of conscious experience.
Wisdom is not a science.. it's an art.
@@bradenscottmedia2285 Agreed. There is only so much science can tell you about morals, values and the deeper truths
The forces of the mind are difficult to control. Even for Mr peterson. He is indeed bringing his own life experiences into this argument.
Life is not suffering. If it were then nothing could exist. The idea that life is suffering by default is a confused idea without roots in the deeper underlying truth. Also, it is not true that modern-day luxuries and conveniences are there to reduce pain. They are there because someone decided that there was a way to make life more amazing. Not because a pessimist decided that life is unbearable. You can't be creative and negative at the same time, it is impossible.
Jordan Peterson is wrong about this one. Life is not suffering. There is no inherent suffering to existence at all. There is no solid evidence that sentient life was created to suffer. That would be immoral, wrong and absurd in a universe as justly ordered and amazing as the one we occupy.
no thank you I did not sign up for this i want to get off this ride now
Same here :/
I love this man with my all
Life is Suffering but I can't kill Myself since Everyone and even God threatening Me
No God doesn’t threaten you.
when Maryam (As), one of the most perseverant women, wished for death, this was God’s reply to her:
As she said:
, ‘I wish I had been dead and forgotten long before all this!’ (23)
It was replied to her:
‘Do not worry: your Lord has provided a stream at your feet.
Chapter 19, verses 23 and 24 Holy Quraan
God, did not teach her to forcefully be positive, instead He was there for her with words of love.
whenever you feel down, don’t let anyone force you with their toxic positivity. Do not let them blame you for feeling any heavy feelings.
Instead, learn to mourn as you want, and seek God’s love which is very near to you, because this is what will only let you heal.
choosing to die is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Even if you keep relapsing, trust me you’ll feel better one day . I suggest you watch Therapy in a Nutshell here on youtube, and start analyzing your suffering through her videos.
Much love❤️
I find this the best piece (or how you call it) of Jordan Peterson! Does someone know what speech of him this is from, if there is a complete recording? ♥
The validity of this video immediately vanished with the outro
What precisely made oh dear Lord. The music. You were referring to the gid awful blare if music at the end
Jordan acknowledges life is suffering then goes on to have children of his own who inherited his illnesses
I was teary at the end but Peterson with japanese cartoon characters lightened me up. Thanks weeb.
I hope I learned something from sufferings... "Men who suffer not, attain no perfection. The plant most pruned by the gardeners is that one which, when the summer comes, will have the most beautiful blossoms and the most abundant fruit." ~ Abdu'l-Baha, Baha'i Faith
I always say the same for myself. The suffering has been so great. But I often wonder if the results were justified by the means. Does the learning lesson and wisdom justify the suffering. It's like the 2 hr anticipation of 2 minute roller coaster ride. (almost)
@@ConsciousEvolution13 Hopefully we make meaningful judgements for what we are willing to suffer.
Life is like a pc some are lucky to have the best of the best parts so they can play high resolution games
And those who are not have to suffer even more. Fun game god. Thank you
Yeah, but sometimes you buy the good components and the game still runs like shit
:/ life is suffering
“ In my suffering, I am brought closer to the sufferings of Christ” - Pope John Paul II’s comment regarding his suffering after being gunned down .
so christian. pathetic! thinking!
@@JuanHernandez-ry9dr The suffering Christ speaks about is suffering for his name.
If you suffer because you proclaim his name and stand for Him, then *that* is truly blessed. Because you are suffering for bearing the name of God. God who suffered *for you.*
No one is greater than his master. If the world hated Jesus, then you can be sure, the world will hate you. Then you know you are of the truth.
That is standing for the truth, standing for the life Himself in the way of evil.
If you suffer for doing bad things, there is no glory in that. You can use that suffering to learn, but apart from that, there is no good in it. It is a shameful thing.
But if you suffer for the truth, which is the life Himself, the light, then there is glory in that. That is blessed. And judgement day will declare it. And eternal life found in you, in a personal relationship with God for eternity, will declare it. And the evildoer who caused you to suffer, will be left with nothing but death for eternity.
Remember no one has or will suffer more than Jesus Christ and he was God on the Earth. So no one escapes some suffering. The good news is Christ suffered on the cross to take our place because he knew we couldn't bear it. He was resurrected from the grave to prove there is a glorious life after death. Praise God from whom all blessings flow.
@@jacksonmorganfroghin4815 3 days on a cross sounds like a walk in the park. Laughable compared to what people suffer worldwide with hunger and wars. I'd swap with Jesus on cross for 3 days if it meant I wouldn't have to work for a living
@@chrisr.6638 Have you seen the movie, The Passion of the Christ? The physical part was no picnic but the worst part was when he bore all the sins of humanity from beginning to end and actually became sin. As humans, we can scarcely understand what that means to a sinlessly perfect person. He took the punishment that all humans should have experienced throughout eternity. He did that out of love for us even for the ones who will reject him. You cannot minimize his pain but you can avoid that pain by accepting his pardon. Why would you not? For me, it's a no brainer. Maybe the worst part of his suffering was when his heavenly Father turned his back on him and their fellowship was broken.
When Jesus said "it is finished" he meant the sin debt was all paid for. A Roman soldier who witnessed it said, "Truly this was the Son of God!"
He was resurrected by his Father to prove that there is an afterlife. It doesn't matter what you have done, God will forgive you based on the fact that his son Jesus already paid for it. Would you pay for a very expensive meal that had already been paid? Of course not.
One of my favorite videos!
This is fundamental Buddhism
Joy and suffring comes in bundle
If life is suffering why is it wrong to opt out?
because you'll go into more suffering.
The most beautiful thing that there could ever be. I cannot describe to you how beautiful it is. The beauty of it is staggering. It's so beautiful you won't even care about suffering. It's so beautiful you won't care about the buddha. You won't care about christ. You won't care about any spiritual teachings. You won't care about non-duality. You won't care about arguing with people. You will not even care about other people being real because it's just so beautiful. What you are you're so beautiful. Reality is so beautiful. Consciousness is so beautiful. Truth is so beautiful. God is so beautiful that it is it's own reward. It's an infinite reward. It's the only thing you really want.
Simply the 4 noble truths in buddhism
this youtube video is my personal bible
I do not know why but at the time of making this comment I had for some reason search "to live is to suffer". Why? I am awake at 250:am and decided I'm not doing fentanyl anymore (I am smoking 20, 30 mg Percocets a day minimum and as many as 50) I have decided to embrace withdrawals and refuse to use another time. I'm feeling masochistically suicidal because of the immense suffering I have been voluntarily enduring for 12 hours. and now I watched this. This is mind blowing, profound, and life changing. giving validation to the things I have already known, but refused to take in. Let's see where this journey takes me. I'm going to die most likely from this addiction. Maybe I'm going to overcome it, and become stronger than almost anyone I currentley and will know personally.(narcissism aside overcoming this cold turkey at home is something I can promise almost all opioid dependant people at my severity do not and cannot accomplish. Dicipline is going to be key. but my shame and depression from 15 years of heroin use to this even worse fentanyl use as well as all the despicable things I have done from choosing this life of the streets is now bringing me at a genuine and forever life changing crossroads for better or worse and i feel it in my gut. Pun not intended. the moment of me finally deciding I am ready to be free from this is something I actually did not want because getting high made me feel like I was in heaven knowing I was trading my soul/humanity for every bit of use. I may still rot in hell when I die but at least opiates won't be a factor anymore. And a lifetime of true pressure makes diamonds or breaks you into a useless pile of nothing. Pardon the cliche talk but if you haven't experienced opioid dependancy then it's very unlikely you haven't known true suffering. And I wish that most didn't die from this lifestyle.
Doing your job cause Pushing is what matters
The only way we can have the self actualizing capacity to care for the greater good is if we take responsibility for our own flaws and weaknesses. Once those are overcome we have much more self control
Thank God that was recorded
Lol I feel he’s counselling himself in these sessions
he has enough pain !
I didn't volontarly accept life, i don't want to exist
Our #1 reason we suffer is because we have no reason to live now. Our existence was always to survive. Not starve, not freeze to death in the wilderness. Finding clean water, not getting eaten. Now our survival is al.ost guaranteed. We don't know what to do with ourselves now. Find a purpose. Go with it. Don't stop. No matter what. Destroy everything in your way. Become a god.
I found your comment very informational. Can you please elaborate more on this way of philosophy ?
@@thesaksham my theory has changed a bit since the last I commented. A lot of people misunderstand life. They only want good things to happen to them. They never want to struggle. But to struggle is to live. To find one's true purpose. No one else can find it for us. People want to be given the perfect job where they will be happy and have all the money. That will not fall into their lap. Sometimes they will never find it. But if you sit and do nothing then you will definitely never find it. The same goes for finding a lover that is perfect for them, a best friend, a favorite food, etc. One must go and find that thing. One must also become a master of themselves. Master of their emotions, of their mind, and take care of their body. Only then can one begin to master other. But one only has so much time to master. We are so identified with what our base desires want like food, sex, play, and we stray from difficult things like work, competitiveness, and learning. Our brains have become so complex, we don't even use them to their full potential. We waste all our time complaining about everything around us treating everything like it is a pest in our path. But we are all in our own way. Caught in a web of our own emotions, our ego and super ego and Id. If we can use these as tools for good instead of evil. We are all imperfect, but perfect in our own way. We just need to not be afraid of facing obstacles. To be willing to learn new things. To listen to different voices and different ideas. Stop saying "this is the right way" or telling someone how they should live their life based on your experience. It's so hard not to judge people. maybe that is the knowledge of good and evil. We think we know what is good and evil, but everything that happens is just nature. Nature cannot be good or evil. What is good to one is evil to another. We are still just trying to survive, but also striving for something more. We search for meaning. Maybe there is no meaning to life. Maybe life is just art. Reality is the canvas, and we are the paint. Conciousness is the paintbrush. I feel like I could go on forever. I'm sure a lot of this just sounds like mumbo jumbo.
@@compfycloud9877 great philosophy indeed.
Specially I agree with the 'go and find' part. I 'm 18 and now this love factor kicks in. I'm slowly trying and going to meet different people and girls and talk with them. Initially I was very introverted.
I'm interested in knowing you bro, where do you live, what do you do ,etc ?
And that existence logic is correct, and it justifies why people are facing existential crisis more than ever.
@@thesaksham yea the love part can be awkward because again love has infinite meanings. I was in a marriage for 10 years where I wasn't allowed to go anywhere do anything because that meant I didn't love my wife. I had to be with her all the time. Mentally, emotionally manipulated me, telling me I should be someone else. I wasn't "normal". Everyone has their fair share of unfortunate events. I had had enough. Of I'm going to have a bad time it's going to be on my own terms. I am from a very small town in southwest Michigan. Born, raised, still live. Finally going to college at 36 years old. Better late than never right? Going for i.t. networking and cyber security. Alan watts, neitche*, Freud, Kierkegaard. Listen to a lot of philosophy the past couple years. Watch a lot of anime lol. I've always been sensitive to the world and I thought it was because I was a sensitive little bitch like people told me. Turns out I am just more aware of things than the average person. Now I have someone who loves me for who I am and loves how aware I am of the world. So she knows I'm Not just another insensitive asshole that just wants sex, money, etc
Yes we need to find our true purpose. Money will not bring us true happiness. It is just a distraction. It does not even truly exist. It has no real value. It used to until the gold standard was thrown out.
@@compfycloud9877 great . I am a 17 yo boy from India, I had these existential crisis type things so I wondered about the meanign of life, and even had a few health problems which gave me a great pain, that led me to thinking "why are we here ? just to suffer ? ".
Yeah money stops mattering after a certain threshold I agree.
BTW, I'm also greatly interested in computer and tech stuff (especially crypto).
Yeah being more aware than average is a sufferring but it's a power.
That’s cool and all, but can there be times when I’m not suffering for once? Like, I’m fine if I have to suffer, just as long as it earns me some time during which I’m not suffering. It doesn’t seem that ever happens, though.
Well, thank you for increasing my depression and anxiety!! I don’t know what the big new groundbreaking simple ideas that this man gives!! Nothing but bullshit and complicate things more and more!!!
Wonderful ❤
The grey is a great movie, its what i live by.
Once more into the fray, into the last good fight il ever know...
I feel like I can't play the game of life like I am all in because I can't accept the suffering of life voluntarly. I have had suicidal thoughts sice I was 6 years old and attempted it multiple times, I still have suicidal thoughts eventhough I went through therapy so my question would be : why should I accept the suffering of life voluntarly if I can just end life and all the suffering that comes with it? Of course there is that much good I could achieve If I got my act together and let go of my hate, bitterness and resentment and wanted to life the best life I can live but why should I accept the suffering that comes with it if I value less suffering higher? I really want to live and I really want to get better but it just feels like the suffering is so huge and overwhelming, I can't stand straight with my sholders back anymore, I can't hold the weight of living.
this is exactly how I feel bitterness has made my life so much worse I hate it but it is hard to let it go
I wonder the same thing. Why should I play this game, the odds are always stacked against you, the chance of suffering is significantly higher than that of happiness. We are just told to "cope". What the fuck does that do? Easing doesn't stop the pain, it just drags it out further and further till your mind goes numb. We never had a say in this damn game. I was born against my will, indoctrinated into a culture and religion that forced me to feel good about my suffering. Why should I keep playing? I never wanted ANY of this. I Never asked to be born. So Why? I can't stand waking up everyday in constant pain. I just want to stop existing and everything I tried to make that happen ends in failure. I just want out man. I REFUSE TO PLAY.
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Commit to yourself and find out...
But why commit to overcoming suffering when you could just die and end it all?
Because that's weak and selfish
Sad start lol
Existential
Not really in my opinion. The sooner you can accept it, the sooner you'll stop feeling lost or disappointed when something bad happens. That's my personal experience at least. :)
Akira the Don made beautiful work out of this bit.
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Suffering, in a broad sense, translates to “value”. So that Existence is to be taken seriously.
It's hard to give up resentment and hatred when you've been born and molded by it. I'll try though.
But isn't reproduction just a force of nature/biology? Aren't you just passing on your suffering to your child until your child gets children etc.? Isn't it cowardly to act as nature dictates you to, just so that you can bear your own suffering, distracting your mind by caring for a child? What if your children die? Maybe I am too much of a Schopenhauer.
Sounds like an excuse to not get your life in order mate. You can think all you want. The reality is that you are here, suffering like everyone else. Nature dictates to be complacent and save energy, aka. Being lazy. If it was otherwise, people wouldn't have so much trouble procrastinating.
@@elmeromero999 That wasn't my argument. I specifically talked about the point of getting children. Why can you only "get your life in order" by getting a child/children? Why am I lazy, just because I am looking for good reasons to do things in life, isn't that the opposite of lazy? Isn't someone who gets children just because other people think that's the thing to do (mentally) lazy?
@@elmeromero999 there are barriers in life that you gotta overcome to get yourself in order. I get that, thats what creates resentment. You lose the game even though you play by the rules and he doesn't.
As for getting your live in order well... it's mostly a question of if you wanna get it in order and there are lots of reasons not to, but it's gonna hurt in the long run.
Being lazy and complacant is alright and saving energy too if you wanna help others aswell.
This guy gets it. Don't reproduce unless you're a multi millionaire.
@@chrisr.6638 Do you mean my argument? It's not because of a lack of wealth why children suffer, or not the only reason. But life itself is suffering. And it seems egoistic to put that burden on another human being just to deal with your own suffering.
And not everyone is fit to having children, adults often have their own problems to deal with, and that often takes all the energy you have. But also getting children can be great, if you can provide the proper conditions and you try to minimize their suffering as much as you can. Because it's your responsibility that your children have to suffer in the first place.
It's a difficult question, I think poeple should use their own brains, instead of following simple claims like "get your life together". There is truth in that, but it means completely different things for different people.
I'm crying. Yes, sir...I'll do everything you say. Life will be better. Amen.
I always regret not buying alcohol.
Thank you
The whole point is this...
If u consider life (life in this world) alone, if u r a person who does not believe in life after death or Hereafter, then man life sucks. In such a case, life is unfair, becz life in this world is nothing but injustice and unfairness. Those who sleep on beds of money continue to sleep like that, those who beg for a piece of bread to satisfy days of their hunger will die of hunger and malnutrition.
The best concept to life, the best understanding of life was brought by Muhammed (the Prophet of Islam). He preached that life in this world is a test for the hereafter. Each and every good deed we commit, each and every bad deed we commit, whether it be in public or private, are all recorded in the fabric of space time and will be brought in front of us in the hereafter and we will be held accountable for our actions. And of course this test is conducted by The One who created us, The creator, controller and sustainer of all dimensions, The Almighty God, u can call him by any name but to him belongs the most beautiful and majestic attributes.
Life in this world is illogical and unjustified without a hereafter.
Even if u don't believe in any of these, still making the concept of Hereafter a part of ur understanding and seeing life through that window will give u perseverance to pass through this unjust life and it's sufferings (which u have to go through anyways)
So Believe in One creator and Believe in life after death, ur life will become more meaningful, u will get a good reason to do good and stay away from bad...
I have my 'act' together but our daughter seems hellbent on destroying the family.
With drugs violence abuse and shit friends coming and going at all times of the day and night.
And yes we've tried the police and mental health but she cunningly slips their grasp every time.
Our little cup of suffering!!!
Where did you find this video?
I speak for all HSP vegan nihilists: Thank you for saving my life Jordan.
I do like the rest of the video on why integrity is the true meaning of life, but I do not understand his basis of calling children the meaning of life at ~2:30. Why go through so much risk and effort bringing a life of suffering into this world of variables when you can spend the same amount of time changing the world yourself?