The Chaotic Rise & Fall of Alternative Rock | Underground Inc | Amplified
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- Опубликовано: 27 фев 2023
- ‘Underground Inc tells the story of the rise and fall of the alternative rock scene, in the wake of Nirvana’s success. Starting with its roots in the eighties underground punk scene - witness the meteoric rise to mainstream dominance and how it all came crashing down against a world of excess and greed. This is the story of the music business colliding with some of the most important and overlooked musicians of the period, finally telling this story in their own words!
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I feel so lucky to have seen 99% of these bands live, in small clubs, and still listen to them today. Especially, Monster Magnet!
Never got into monster magnet. Kyuss were monsters though
@@Sumner1028 Monster Magnet has some bangers
Not gonna lie, I wasn't really that into most of the bands featured here, but my roommate was, and he got free tickets to go see Monster Magnet and CoC. Around 97 or so. That was a kick ass show.
I've never heard of Monster Magnet
@@coyleighSIGH
I believe that's part of the point.
I toured with my friends band in the early 90's to give them a hand doing whatever needed done.The singer loved to hold his farts till we were in the small camper we drove in.I warned him I have a VERY weak stomach and he decided to not believe me.Well sitting next to me he dropped a horrible fart and when it hit me I leaned over and threw up all over him.He never farted in the camper again and I was a hero to the other band members.
That’s gnarls barkley
And that singer was….Tiny Tim
PUNK ROCK!
Great story should be on video! 🤘🤮👍
... and thus the Golden Rule of Touring was born.
NEVER SHIT ON THE BUS. 🖤☠️🖤
Man this is easily one of the best comprehensive documentaries on early-mid 90's indie I've seen. Seriously amazing job with this! I cannot believe how many people you got to sit down and talk, such a great variety of awesome bands, and discovered some great stuff too! Will probably watch this a few more times as there's so much packed in here, I love it!
Agreed
Just sayin, I don't think this channel actually makes the documentaries; they just upload them. I remember seeing this one quite a few years ago. It's a good channel though, they have a lot of great documentaries.
Focuses on the American scene. There was a lot going on in Britain also.
@@aclark903A documentary of alllllll Biden supporters....but theyre "punk rock" 😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉
@@phillippettit2138every single artist in this documentary would be the first to tell you that they support open immigration and Biden..... But would be the very first people to move out of town once it becomes immigrants 😂😂😂🎉😢🎉😅
Man it was great to be a music lover in the 90s, there was just so much of it that was so close to you as a kid. Todays music almost is separated from the public, but to see a band you liked in the 90s wasn’t that difficult, and so much of the music was so good. I hate the term grunge because everyone was so different (of course there opportunist bands but there were a lot who weren’t) you couldn’t really label all of it. I would love if a resurgence of this type of music happened again. It’s almost been purposely buried for some reason
Yeah, it was so exciting. So many great bands and just awesome rock music.
I’m glad there’s beginning to be a new rock scene nowadays.
It's awesome that you featured Cop Shoot Cop so prominently. They were a super under rated band in the 90's and one of the best live bands I saw back then.
That was my older brother's favorite band at the time. I thought they were alright. I didn't get what Tod A was talking about because I was too young. During the Firewater days I went back and found that Ask Questions Later is easily in my top 25. I wish they had better production on that album because it sounds like it was recorded in a basement. Very unique band that never got their due.
basment tapes was the 90's sound...best shows.@@brentb5303
When I first heard them on KROQ, I thought they sounded like a grunge Adam Ant and loved it.
I listened the the bassline, at least a dozen times, that the member of Cop Shoot Cop played. Is that one of their songs, if so, which, I'm not familiar, am going to explore this band.
@@paulsteel9127A documentary of alllllll Biden supporters....but theyre "punk rock" 😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉
Took my Son to go see Clutch, Helmet, and Quicksand about 4 months ago. They all killed it. Saw Failure last year for the first time. I was blown away. Really great documentary. Thanks for sharing it!
17:03 oh man Helmet!! A coworker in the early 90s turned me on to them. I still have the album “in the meantime” on CD. So aggressive heavy. Very under rated.
Another band that’s criminally underrated is “Hum”. The album “so you’d prefer an astronaut” is beautifully ethereal.
My band used to practice next door to their practice room in the NoLiTa area of NY. Heard all their songs before they came out. Tight fricken band
Quicksand and Failure are good to
Epic freakin’ documentary. Not being from the US, several of these bands are only vague memories, but, oh my, what a revelation. Cheers to all involved.
The 1990s was quite an eclectic time for hard and heavy music. Back then I was really into punk, hardcore, industrial and the extreme metal (insert sub genre here) going on at the time.
yes same as myself, extreme punkrock, industrial, the harsher sounds, and a few of the more mainstream bands with videoplay like the surfers, pixies, helmet, L7, fugazi . by the time most of these bands were touring i was too much into underground sounds to give these groups a listen, but i can appreciate it some more now as well.
Finally someone has taken this music on as a serious music history topic. Expand more if you can. Unwound, Polvo, No Knife, Faraquet, Rocket From the Crypt, etc..
You should also cover San Diego's hidden underground scene. For decades now San Diego has had even more great bands than Seattle. San Diego's vast underground music pedigree is perpetually overlooked, and insanely listenable. Labels like Head Hunter, Cargo. Main stream producer Mark Trom Trombino (Blink & more) was/is the drummer for Drive Like Jehu
I just got into Drive Like Jehu maybe a year ago after hearing the name for over 30 years. I wish I paid more attention back in the day.
Clutch is awesome. Seen them 15+times. Love them. They don’t need big labels.
so glad to find this. We didn't know what we had. I graduated Austin High in 1984, and this video really gets closer to the heart of those times more than any I've seen. I went on the road occasionally; NYC and Chicago were mostly my second homes-one aspect of that time is reflected in that festival poster--we had such variety of styles coming together with the only common ground being that we were all outsiders to the mainstream, and we most all were in it for the music and the scene itself.
I grew up in Manhattan and graduated HS in '85. You nailed the 80's underground ethos and the feel of that whole alternate universe humming alongside the mainstream poodlehead "metal" and quasi-Madonnas through 1991. In the 80's, I listened to everything from Big Black to Bongwater, not just because it was all "underground" in the often abused sense of that label, but because it was all fearless music that I connected with from the moment I found hardcore in 10th grade. So many greats making great music & art. The bands that I loved the most who have stuck with me to now at age 56 are Swans, Butthole Surfers, Killing Joke, Big Black, Sonic Youth, Scratch Acid...and across the pond were Wire, PiL, Current 93 and first-wave European industrial like SPK, Throbbing Gristle and especially Coil. Thankfully, by the late 80's I was aware of how amazing it all was as it was happening and I made a point to enjoy it.
Lolla ‘92 should get more respect for how absolutely legendary it was. The line-up. The vibe. The madness of the time.
I hadn't heard of Ministry before that show and wondered why they were going on next to last. About 60 seconds into their set it was apparent why. The crowd added to the spectacle by lighting bonfires and tearing up the sod lawn of the venue. One of the best shows ever!
Woodstock 94 as well \m/
1995 Lollapalooza?
You go look at the lineup.
Outside 1992 Lolla?
95 was TRUE example of what this Tour was meant to be.
Pavement, Sonic Youth..
@@KrashyKharma NIN at Woodstock 94 was arguably THE performance of early-mid 90s.
@@jasonpeters9716 was at both. 1992 was crazier. Though 1995 was incredible too.
I grew up about an hour north of Seattle, graduated in 1994. There were so many non grunge bands that kinda got screwed by grunge getting big. I’m so thankful I got to see many of these bands along with many other amazing local bands.
Those were the days with free bands playing in a different park in Seattle all summer long!!!
The girls sooo many dancing dreadlock GIRLS! 💃🏽💃💃🏻
**Shawn Smith** 💜💚💙🚀🚀🚀
Great presentation, great content, letting the musicians pretty much speak for themselves with just the right number of indy font text screen splotches to emphasize key phrases that hammer the point home. Well done, thank you!
God I loved the lower East side early 90s. Cop Shoot Cop were destined for greatness. Tried out for them when they added guitar - and I sucked on guitar but it was a great time jamming with them.
Hell yeah, Cop Shoot Cop were the shit ca. '91-92 and the E Village and lower east side were still spilling over with the bands that defined the NYC underground. And then Cop Shoot Cop got that DJ w/ the really deep voice from WNYU's New Afternoon Show to talk on side two of Consumer Revolt. I heard he moved to Wisconsin to teach middle school after he graduated from NYU. Do you remember Missing Foundation? They played in Tompkins Square Park in the summer of '88 when all the NYC Hardcore kids showed up and started a riot in defense of squatters the NYPD was messing with. Me and my friend Mark sat on a wall with a big bag of Doritos and 40's of Old E and just watched the chaos unfold. Good times in NYC.
One of the things I miss is that night time culture, where the earliest you'd see a band was 11pm.
Man these days a fell asleep on the couch before 11
@@MrEthanlevy100 LOL
It takes something special to stand out. Quality. A voice. A vibe. Indefinable yet you know it when you hear it. These bands are all good. But the great ones are the great ones.
And also luck.. right place, right time. Can't remember who said it but the quote was something like "there's nothing more common in the world than unrecognized genius", which is depressing but true.
Agreed. Too much focus on a bunch of mediocre bands.
Lifes a crapshoot no matter what you do for a living. I hope some of these guys are grateful for getting as far as they did.
Eh, there’s a lot more to this than simplifying it like that. The mid 90s was the most healthy time ever for alternative music in history. There weren’t just a few great bands. There were a few UNBELIEVABLE bands, but the number of great bands was a in the mid to high HUNDREDS. You didn’t just have the pick of a few bands. You got to pick the bands you liked in a specific alternative rock NICHE. There was shoe gazing rock (Pumpkins), Britpop (Blur and Oasis), punk (Bad Religion), hardcore (Rollins), geek rock (Weezer), art rock (Sonic Youth), loud grunge (Nirvana), grunge metal (Soundgarden), soft grunge (Pearl Jam), stoner rock (Queens of the Stone Age), indie rock (Pixies), synth/dance rock (New Order), complain-y rock lol (Smiths), Garage Rock (White Stripes), independent rock (Fugazi), rap rock (Limp Bizkit), and on and on.
What is there today? Autotune crap. And that’s it.
@@InequitiesHear, hear, brotha. But nobody that didn't live it will ever quite understand. 🤘
Rich kids went to psychiatrists, poor kids played Punk Rock....
Good line 👍
Except it wasnt true. Most of these bands were full of rich kids, trying to be contrary.
@@springbloom5940 interesting 🤔
I’ve talk a boomer about the scene then he said the same thing. Punk rock is what the rich kids pretending to be be poor listened to. A band called snot wrote a record talking shit about Bret from bad religion basically calling him a rich kid playing poor.
@@springbloom5940 egggggggxactly!
@@springbloom5940 Which bands are you referring to, specifically?
wow this docu is so great for 3 reasons , 1 never realized how lucky i was groing up in the 90s unique freedom of expression, 2 as a frustated underground rock musician i felt so releaf to see this many cool people passing for the same surviving strugle and 3 because i heard bands ive never met before. If you are an underground head you know the value of art regardless of recognition and that never changes, we are the same all over the world much respect from Mexico City carnales
Love your city so much! Great music scene as well! On a huge Son Rompe Pera kick at the moment!
I'm just so glad to see Cop Shoot Cop get some love. Insanely overlooked and way ahead of their time.
So many great bands from this era that should have changed the world. I was going to audition for Sugar Tooth when they were called She Died. Also, the only time I was scared to open for a band was For Love Not Lisa. They were amazing.
Wow! I'm good friends with former FLNL drummer Aaron P, he is still a beast behind the ki
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DJ Shadow/"Entroducing.."
UNKLE/"Pyscience Fiction"
My band got caught between the death of the hair bands and the Nirvana explosion. We got a development deal and ended up probably 250K in debt, with a record Geffen refused to release.
I met Danny Rollins, at a wreck on 1-20, in Shreveport, LA. We were completely stopped, and a huge white, SUV was stopped beside me. I was on the way to my bartender job, and suddenly the back window of the HUGE S.U.V. they rented, rolled down and I was staring at someone's ass...lol. Henry Rollins got out and asked if I would go to the casino with him, and I sadly had to say no. I worked at a 'college bar' and took care of the bands that played there. I invited him and never saw him again, but that was really cool. It was around 2006.
I had almost every band mentioned on cd or cassette and I've met a few of these semi forgotten icons. Glad I stopped by for this nostalgic trip thru my 90s music journey
That was great! Some bands covered here that I only took a quick glance at back in the day. Time to deep dive into some stuff. Man, Only Living Witness was such a great band! Thankful that I got to see them live, amazing! Eric Stevenson, R.I.P.
This was the last rock n roll revolution. I don't care what anyone says about cycles. Because of the loss of regional sounds, new technology (A.I. pro tools), and especially the internet, rock and roll will never make a real comeback. I believe there are amazing bands still making fantastic inspiring music and if you care to search, you'll find amazing stuff. However, the vast majority of people will ever care enough to make a difference.
Wow! This movie took me back to a time when life was good. A few bands that I haven't heard or thought about for years, and many I have never heard of.
My father was 21 years old when Nevermind came out in 1991, he first heard “Smells Like Teen Spirit” on the radio he went from being new wave to grunge
The discontent which provided the catalyst for much of the "alternative" music/scene is perfectly illustrated by Mike Judge and "Beavis and Butthead".
I strongly disagree. Bevis and Butthead didn’t represent discontent. They were the representation of people to stupid and ignorant to get the underground ethos. That’s why they were funny.
@@kckstnd8 What's the difference between too and "to"? Please keep your mouth shut!
What _are_ you talking about? Bevis and Butthead were the kids who didn't get it, the mindless consumers that were MTV's bread and butter. People laughed _at_ Beavis and Butthead, not _with_ them. They were too stupid to be discontent.
I can only assume I'm missing your point. From your personal perspective, was Beavis and Butt-Head a mindless representation of 90's Alt music? If not, I'm afraid I don't understand your post at all.
In OPs defense, B&B were actually big fans of Soundgarden and bands like Helmet, so yeah
This was a fun watch. Reminded me of some bands I hadn’t thought of in a while. And actually introduced me to some bands I missed during the time period. Never heard of them until today, but I kind of dig “Cop Shoot Cop.”
They were fantastic. Like Big Band industrial.
I had to do a bit of searching through some lyrics but I found the name of the song that Sunny Day Real Estate was playing. It's called Pillars. Now I hadn't heard of this band until I saw this documentary and holy mother of God these guys don't seem to have a weakness. Truly amazing! Upon further research I was unable to find the Live performance they used in this video as it had really great vocal quality and I wanted to hear that particular version but alas my search was to no avail. If anyone else knows where I can find this please drop the link in the comment section below. Much love y'al.
Hey brother I can help! I'm terrible with links but just type sunny day real estate live 2000 pro shot it will take you right to it. The first time I heard sdre was in 2001 from the college radio station of Shepard college, shepardstown, wv!! Good luck buddy
Thanks for this great documentary. I'm from Westgermany, 've been part of the HC-Scene & seen a lot of this wonderful bands on their european tours!
So happy this showed up on my feed today. So many great bands.
Prince was not "shit". A friend gave me 2 tickets to go see him. I didnt want to go because I equated him with Michael Jackson and Madonna, both of whom I didnt care for. But he was great. It was like a history lesson in funk. There was James Brown, Funkadelic, Hendrix, all in one guy. Sorry too cool for school dudes. You're wrong. I was wrong. I thought he'd be terrible.
Sidenote: I was on some really good Texas LSD that night. So I don't know. I saw bauhaus for the first time later that night. It was all great
You're saying what I am thinking my friend. Thank you 💜 🕯️
Steve albani is a good musician and great engineer but he has some of the shittiest hot takes on music he's ignorant of. Prince had more musical juice in his pinky than Steve will ever dream of having
Love the videos. Thank you for all that you do. 🔥🤘😁🔥
Wow, Pepper Keenan has one of the wildest stories here, that's a trip !
Very cool, I needed to hear a different kind of memory like that, thank you Pepper and OP !
-Respekt
I've been turning people onto COC/"Deliverance" last 28yrs.
HEYO! Great documentary! Finally someone did a thorough investigation of the veritable cornucopia of the indie bands and the major labels who swooped in trying to nab them. Boy oh boy, what a grand era 'twas! I'll never forget my very first concert: It was 1994 and I saw SEAWEED & BIVOUAC at the Metro in Chicago, and then I saw BRAINIAC and then...THE JESUS LIZARD (They actually played at Lollapalooza 1995 with Fishbone, Hole, Sonic Youth, Sinead O'Connor, etc.)!!!! They became my favorite band...saw them at The Vic theater and the Metro in Chicago several times as well as the Lollapalooza '95 and at the Fireside Bowl, where they opened for MELVINS, and I even travelled to see them at Club Soda in Kalamazoo, Michigan in '97 or '98 (me and my friend, Mike, drove David Yow up to that show). I believe it was STANFORD PRISON EXPERIMENT who opened up for them. This was for the tour to promote their newest album, their sophomore record on a major label (Capitol), titled Blue. David gave me a homemade cassette version of the album, with his own homemade insert. I wish I still had it, I lost it somewhere along the way.
And how can I forget to mention GIRLS AGAINST BOYS! What a great band. I saw them open up for The Jesus Lizard a few times as well as when they opened up for Rage Against The Machine at the Aragon Ballroom in the Chicago neighborhood of Uptown in 1996!
Damn, son. Don't forget STEVE ALBINI's band SHELLAC (post Big Black)...
I was kind of hurt by the way the singer of COP SHOOT COP treated his bandmates...I had no idea he did that. I was a fan of them. I learned of them by way of Kurt Cobain and how he would often give a shout out to the more underground bands he liked. This is how I also found out about SCRATCH ACID - David Yow's band from Austin, Texas, pre The Jesus Lizard (Scratch Acid was doing their thing in the early '80s - "The Greatest Gift" came out in 1982, I believe. Another band that also came out of Austin, Texas around the same time was the BUTTHOLE SURFERS...
...then there were the other bands, KILLDOZER, LAUGHING HYENAS, SKINYARD, BIG BLACK, etc. Yow once told me that what his band and some of the others were trying to do was to see who could sound the most like THE BIRTHDAY PARTY (Nick Cave's band from Melbourne, Australia 1979 - 1983 - at first they were called (the) Boys Next Door.
...The common denominator in the majority of the bands I've listed was the record label they were on - certainly my favorite label of all time - TOUCH & GO RECORDS - out of Chicago, Baby...
...Anyhoo, I could go on forever and ever on this and it's quite possible that this is to go unnoticed anyways, so...if you've made it this far I have this to ask of you:
If you have watched this video, I cordially demand that you write down some of the bands you have never heard of and then check them out, as well as any of the bands I have mentioned here in this post...s'il vous plait...😁
With Love,
Magnus
Love Pepper Keenen is a metal god! The 80s were such a great era for live music in NYC. So glad I got to be part of it.
Thank you very much guys of Amplified. I t was great that through your beutiful documentary you amplified the voices of those bands that a group of loyal fans we keep supporting. For instance, I went to see Helmet this week in Manchester. Your documentary is a warning, for those bands with an honest music proposal, to avoid to be squeeze by capitalism and keep the most important alive: the creativity, community and music.
Amazing documentary. Musicians opinions, greedy music companies, re known bands, "new bands", Helmet,etc. THANKS for sharing
I remember seeing fishbone in Berkeley. Wow what a high energy show. Great memories
kicking off with sunny day real estate! i so miss the 90s, and my youth sometimes...it was magic back than. cool people and cool music.we were broke, but always found stuff to do, and there was always a good show to see!
Seeing Sugartooth featured in here made my day. Even if you liked them in the 90s, it was impossible to find their albums. Criminally unheard and underrated.
And they are back! They have released 3rd LP last year!
Clutch and Monster Magnet still killing it today
That was a wonderful, brilliant documentary. Great editing, better than great. Perfect, really.
In 199...3 I went to a New Years Eve warehouse rave in LA and saw a band I thought was great. Then the next time I went out to a random show at Coconut Teaser I saw them again. They were so good I had to approach them and see if I could do some artwork for them, and I ended up becoming friends with Todd who was the guitarist and vocalist, as well as doing the artwork for their cassette demo.
His band Crank (as in a crankshaft, Todd didn't know Crank was a drug,) had a unique sound resulting from having a jazz-trained drummer, heavy bass lines, and Todd's spare, and even more spare guitar style that included on one song a one note rhythm/lead that was a minute long, and minimalist lyrics delivered alternately quietly and with a Godforsaken growl. All were served together with unique time signatures that was heavy, intelligent, and unlike anything I'd ever heard.
Influential music journal CMJ, put them on the cover and said that they were the soundtrack for the 90s, or something to that effect. Really blew them up and lit them on fire. A&R from all the major labels came to see them...and no one would touch them with a ten-foot pole. Crank was a bunch of regular dudes from Orange County, wearing regular clothes with regular haircuts. The small, Philippine-appearing bass player looked like he might have just been plucked from a golf course in Orange County where he may have worked, and Todd was as soft-spoken and quiet as his music wasn't. Instead of hanging out after they played they would go home with their girlfriends. Todd didn't say anything to the audience at all. One time I heard him say "That's it" at the end of their set.
Crank was a bunch of regular guys from suburbia making brilliant music, with nothing of the rock star about them. I ended up moving away to Reno, Nevada and lost track of them. I later heard nothing became of Crank and they split up, and Todd went on to form another band called 747. I tried to find any evidence of that band, but in the era before PCs and RUclips I found no evidence of them online. I still have my Crank cassette and still listen to it. The music sounds like it could have been made last week and will for decades to come. Quietly brilliant, Todd was one of my favorite people and I wish I could find him today, if for no other reason than to tell him I survived my decades of heroin and meth addiction to become a successful Photorealist painter.
Yes! That’s the kind of content I’m talking about!
The footage is nuts. It must be preserved.
This channel is awesome, thx.🙏
~"Noone will ever care more about your own shit than you"~
😅 Truer words were never spoken. 😂
Thank you for the glorious trip back in musical time. That was harrowing and invigorating, too. Happy to watch these dozens of worthy bands getting a bit of their due.
R.I.P. Shawn Smith. If ever there was a musical God...he sure shined it all down on that man.
🤘🤘🤘 Pepper, et al.
There always has to be at least one too-cool-for-school contrarian in every one of these documentaries. Having said that, this was a good doc. Thank you!
Nice to see Failure included. Would have been nice to include Hum and Spoon (who managed to survive being dropped and achieve a decent level of success in the long run).
We can get by great on playing shows until a pandemic comes along. :(
Hum should have been included. Either the director wasn't a fan or he tried to get them and they couldn't do it.
Bad habits like doing drugs and alcohol never end well in the rock and roll circles. This is such a cliche in the industry and is actually encouraged. But the traps that those binding contracts hold over the bands heads takes them years to climb out of that hole from the gate. And in the end if you're not willing to basically sell your soul then the record company will not do the magic to get the group to quick rockstardom. That's why in the end if you're truly talented and want to avoid the industry drama artist choosing a route of becoming a hired gun to pay the bills. It's was kind of explained here at the end of this piece. I believe bands like Linkin Park were the last to trudge the trenches and bend some of the old rules in their favor by being hands on when it comes to marketing producing and branding themselves without having to much middle men influencing and meddling in the core structure of the band. They paved the way for artist to really go about it without having the industry sign a group off to make profit. The new era of technology helped usher in the truly independent musicians though these platforms set up on the internet online and dyi home studios. Rock on to future bands out there. Set sail and create new landmarks!
It's so funny how so many of the stories that I am hearing about . Is what our band went through. I can say this I am so lucky to have been a part of that scene I got to do what so many kids from the X era dream about or play air guitar too . I was on stage I had fans ask for my autograph . I was on TV. I got to make and record music that we wrote. And that was all worth it . I wouldn't change too much if I could go back . I would try and give some of the chances we had a shot .
There was no word ‘alternative’ until Janes Addiction came on scene..
Most will NEVER understand the impact Janes had on the world
It was Nirvana that made the proliferation of Alternative underground music to the masses. Our music... EXISTED. Until this day, many of us have stayed our ears the the underground. Thanks Kurt! I am one of those 30 millions. I have my CD still. Nevermind led me to the rabbit hole .... DEEPER into other genres of the underground, which I am still to day at 51.... even my 16 year old son and his friends are all 90s enthusiasts listening kids!!! Don't even try to revise History.... I was there at 19 when it all began in 1991. The end of Hard/glam/Metal rock, had come to an end. 1964-1990 are now mortal nostalgia.
8:45 one word... EXACTLY.
Brilliant documentary! Thank you!
You should watch the full video at Tubi - Amplified cut off the interviews/list of songs in the credits.
In DC the 930 club (original location) was the most "anti-pop" atmosphere I could find for live music.
In the 80s it was hard to find a room full of people who liked the same thing.
Interesting to see how Corrosion Of Conformity got pulled into all of this as they came from the hardcore punk scene and slowly progressed into a southern rock/stoner metal band. They continue to be successful to this day. Both Jesus Lizard and Cop Shoot Cop had a very unique sound. In hindsight, some of these other bands are not really all that original. As for the lack of success of so many, you can blame much of the general public that were perfectly content to listen to the biggest 4 or 5 "grunge" groups over and over again and nothing else.
I saw helmet ,sepultura and ministry at sportatorium in Dallas. I went there to helmet but they crashed her bus so they weren't there. The most violent concert ever been to.
I saw that tour in Seattle. The Sepultura set still ranks as the biggest and most brutal pit I've ever seen. Ministry was really on point back in those days as well.
so you didnt actually see Helmet?
Only pit bigger was Slayer Seasons in the Abyss
Than Pantera Vulgar Display of Power both in Dallas
Sepultura was right up there as people getting rowdy
Ministry it was fun and scary with Megadeth shows 80’s and 90’s
No Shudder to Think? Also more time should've been spent on Shawn Smith stuff. Satchel's EDC was a masterpiece!
Great docu. An education behind the machine that’s called the music business. I just found great sounding bands I only saw on the periphery of a sea of cassettes flooded by big names like nirvana and pearl jam
I was at that tour.
Jawbox opened for STP, Aug94. Kansas City.
I was 17yrs old
Watching from Greece.hi everybody.
Great documentary.
However good Nirvana was, they were promoted to the max by MTV, like no other band before or since.
Ya because people kept calling them up to request them!
You didn't call mtv..They played them to the max to start a music revolution and make tons of cash..
The Butch Vig promotion!
human creativity peaked in the 90s with alternative rock
Paige Hamilton is the man. My dad used to work with his uncle in Hawaii. And Paige actually autographed a poster for me back in the day.
Sunny day Real Estate is such a deep cut! Such a good band!
i enjoyed this, though i wish for more of the bands that stayed indie and kicked ass in the 90’s - fugazi, neurosis, godspeed you black emperor, dog faced hermans, the ex, iceburn, grotus, brainiac, shellac, polvo, nation of ulysses, sleater kinney, superchunk, thinking fellers union local 282, unwound, tsunami, don caballero, as well as some favorites who did go major - boredoms, bjork, deftones, jawbreaker, pj harvey, babe the blue ox, pavement, radiohead …
other major goodies - swans, rage atm, at the drive in, butthole surfers …
@@musicglennrage is just a corporate/ political mouthpiece
Great bands and musicians covered in this. Was sure hoping there would be some Barkmarket, , another phenomenal band from this era that deserves way more respect than what they get. Dave Sardy is a genius musician and engineer/ producer. Criminally underrated
Oh wow, Scatterbrain I remember that. Headbangers Ball. Their two videos was "Don't call me Dude" and I Ain't Going Down with the Ship.
the time is now, what an enormous coolest year to start off this research. am devoting much to the underground. arrgh, born 86, only known few of you, but it is worth to learn from you all, yeehaw 🤠
Great indie bands mentioned here. Thanks for remember those bands.
5:00 nice orange 9mm that’s a good one
Good to see Brian and James from Downset also Billy Biohazard get interviewed for this project. Right on fellas!
I think there was a lot of confusion with the Alternative Rock movement in the 90’s, just every band under the sun were being called Grunge or Alternative Rock, that were either Punk bands, Metal bands, Indie bands, Hardcore bands, etc etc.
These bands were all different and appealed to different fanbases but the media just wanted to call them Alternative Rock or Grunge and thought they were all the same but weren’t obviously.
How the fuck can you call Sunny Day Real Estate, Monster Magnet, Ministry, and Garbage the same thing when they were all different and appealed to different fanbases.
Great!, thank you!
All that volume , all that angst and it didn't change a thing.
it changed me. for the better? maybe
This is awesome. So many bands that I am unfamiliar with that I’m hearing for the first time right now and it’s exciting. I’m 35 so I was barely even a human when all of this was taking place
All I got from touring on the Alt Rock circuit in the mid 90s was a heavy 20 year heroin addiction. And a few beautiful but temporary companions.
Cool to see Greg Saenz and Joey C. On this👌👍🏻
I still love Sunny Day. Amazing band. Jeremy Enigk is an amazing songwriter/lyricist.
My friend just saw them last week, he had a blast. He danced so much he could barely move the next day.
Shudder To Think = greatest band ever
Yep
I saw them open for the Foo fighters on their first tour.
Dave came out to do a song with them.This was 95-96 time x french t shirt time... Awesome!!!
Very cool to see sugartooth get some shine.🤘🏻🎱🤘🏻
Just saw sunny day real estate last month ! Was one of the youngest in crowd 5:00
Great documentary especially because of critical undertones.
So would the Dead Milkmen fit into this category? I was obsessed with them as a young teen in early 90s. Nobody ever talks about them in punk circles I always put them in that category. They are silly are they art rock? Alternative rock? Noise rock like butthole surfer's? Scatterbrain at end I forgot about them I had the cd never knew about the video till now.
Yes. The dead milkmen def count and were vital to the underground scene. Long live Philly
@@kckstnd8 I'd love to see a documentary on their career. They have a lot of albums and they are funny and fun.
Dead Milkmen toured the US playing lots of out of the way towns bringing punk rock to the Bible Belt. I would say that the initial D.I.Y. Hardcore scene was imploding by 1986 and the network of people involved (promoters,clubs,zines,local bands)was in decline.They could have slagged off playing to 30 people in Oklahoma City or the wastelands of Kansas but they set up gigs in dive bars and VFW halls helping underground music scenes while they flirted with MTV .
so true the music that came out from 89-95 will be unbeatable full stop
Room 429 is a Devin Townsend song, on the album City from his metal band Strapping Young lad !9
Why couldn't they use lavaliere mics for the interviews with this doc?
I was hoping to get a timeline of the rise and fall of alternative music as I witnessed it-- whether it's Social Distortion at the local VFW or its or it's the Red Hot Chili Peppers opening for Camper Von Beethoven at Big Surf (yeah that's Tempe AZ). I saw the first lollapalooza concert and attended the funeral for Doug Hopkins from the Gin Blossoms. So I can say I witnessed it first hand and it all started with college radio and bands like Husker Du, the Replacements, the Godfathers, the Smithereens and the Screaming Blue Messiahs......
But this doc is specifically about what happened in the wake of Nirvana's success and every label swooping in to cash in. You're talking about stuff from much much earlier. Husker rules tho
Yes. You are spot on. Thank you for including the replacements and husker du, those bands laid the foundation for the underground scene to explode in the 90’s. Without the mats and husker du, the 90’s music scene wouldn’t have been the same.
@@SS-gx7tgh so this doc is post Nirvana alt rock any mentions of Guided by Voices or Pavement ? If not may not watch , like y’all say pre Nirvana time was better : Husker, Early Dinosaur, Mats Pixies etc ..
This brings back a lot of memories 😊
What’s the opening song? The “ what the fuk r we talkin about again” harmonic guitar into that double bass drum triplet!!! It’s rad! Please, someone tell me🙏
SUGARTOOTH is B ADASS 🤘🏼🤘🏼🎸🎸 Such a criminally underrated band. Sold My Fortune, Cracks In The Pavement and Sheffield Milestone were songs that my band covered. That whole album is just epic. They're so tight and grooving 🤘🏼🤘🏼🍻🍻🎸🎸
“Rich kids got psychiatrists and us poor kids played punk”
Great doc. Too short, though
First time I've heard ANYONE mention Gwenmars since 2001 when I heard about them from some hipster on a long-defunct message board. Still love Driving a Million.
Big Black is my most favourite ever , thank you Steve
Very good doc, can someone connect the dots for me ref Matt Tecu & Rollins Band? Is it touring?