Kinda like an RX-8? I'm pretty sure the NB and RX-8 were built with all the same mechanixal bits except the engine and tranission drop gear. They didn't need room for the convertible top to drop into so they could add back seats.
@@evansisgreat you're too kind. We're growing slowly, and have some mega plans for this year, not just in tyres! Other aspects of cars will be tested too :)
@@evansisgreat yeah they just need to upload more before they fall off because they do really well eveytime they upload they are one of my favourite channels to watch.
The RX 8 is my favorite cheap sports car. They handle like a dream. I have an 05 and I could never get rid of her. There truly is nothing like a well tuned rotary engine.
I'd love to see them do a head to head, same weather conditions. I think that RX-8 has quite a bit more left with sticky tyres and a good dry track surface.
The RX-8 is slightly lighter than those Bimmers, also I think with rotary Mazdas, these really are built to be top notch - the handling should fully support its power and vice versa. If a car is quicker then it is about a lot of many other factors - take revving for instance - I think that RX8 revs faster than the Bimmers, add to that its amazing handling and what do you get? You get faster corner speed. I love Mazdas, but I am unsure when it comes to rotary reliability whether I would then prefer the 330d, the M3 or go with the Mazda... wait, I know: if I had the money to get that M3 then I would rather buy a E46 M3 and... a Miata, done, coolsies :)
in terms of performance, slight edge to the s2k. in terms of pricing, massive edge to the rx8. in terms of reliability, HUMONGOUS edge towards the s2k. i like it. i'd also love to see the question answered after how much time an s2k becomes cheaper overall than an rx8
Just remember to stay on top of your oil change maintenance, use Pre-mix, and rev to 9000 under load at least once a day. This will help the apex seals last a long time and keep down carbon build up. Oh yeah, don't use oil lighter than 10W-30 as lighter oil doesn't protect the bearings enough. Mazda USA recommends the light oil, but Mazda Japan and all the specialty Rotary Tuning shops recommend 10W-30 or higher.
@@DatDarkOne Yea, been doing my research for ages to prepare for the car. Great part about it, is that it has a rebuilt engine in it that has only 5k miles on it. Past owner is an Rx-8 enthusiast so he kept it in great shape.
@@nickc6095 Mine still has the original engine and I just hit 144k miles. Had my ECU tuned recently by Rotary Performance in Garland, TX. If you have the chance to get your ECU tuned, I highly recommend having it done. RP only charges about $150 for it. It tweaks various other settings also like temp for the Oil Coolers opening etc.
Great video! Even in 2019, the rx8's handling is still comparable to modern days cars. Not to mention when you use it in the category that it was actually build for, you'll be damn proud of it, as it will perform like the top of the class. Track day season coming soon :D
The beauty of high revving engines like the rotary is that engine torque does not matter. Engine torque only matters as a component of power when talking about performance; it's something to consider when talking about transmission design or efficiency. It's wheel torque that matters, and if you've got a high revving engine you can just use shorter gears.
Well it highly depends on application. Horsepower is a function of torque, you can’t make horsepower without torque but you need to be able to rev to go fast. Take for example a diesel (I’m talking stock) they make massive torque figures but because they’re very slow to rev they don’t really do speed. On the flip side, having a strong torque curve gives you more horsepower at a broader RPM range. Meaning your average (not peak) horsepower will be higher.
Finally someone that understands that revs alone OR torque alone are meaningless figures. It all boils down to the gearing used. And for power you need both torque and revs. And it's always a tradeoff situation.. the higher the revs, the lower torque you're gonna have, because it means it's a engine with lower stroke, thus rotating faster, but having less radius on the crankshaft, thus producing less torque (a force applied at a distance)
and they often need to idle higher, doe to the lower torque as well. I see it more as a percentage of the rev range used, and on that level, it is the same as a lower reving eng
@@toshibavoodoo And yet again we realize that there are two kinds of people: Those who think the MX5 is a Hairdresser Porche and those who have driven one.
I'm austrian and i've owned an Rx-8 for about 10 years now. You should try it on a snowy mountain pass, to see how well it goes sideways! It digs up the hill with spinning wheels and you don't really have to fight it, you just steer it with the gas pedal, if you want to change from left to right, you don't even really have to steer, you just lift the throttle to shift the weight,... i love mine so much, i could write for hours.
Love the RX8.. Keep pushing for Mazda content. Want to know another Mazda that has been long forgotten? The Mazdaspeed 6. I drive one myself and recently talked about it! Check me out.
I still maintain that the RX-8 is by far one of the best driving cars in the world. When we tested my tuned daily driver example on The Slip Angle EP 10, I was amazed by it's on track performance. What a beautifully balanced chassis. A true dancing partner. Jaw's drop when I say the RX-8 drive's better than my FD RX-7, but regardless it's the hands down truth.
Why would one wish to put a BBC leash on a rare unstereotyped wildlife petrolheads? Original trio shown the finger to Top Gear, and i think we should do the same. A man make the show, never show makes a man. So at this point, i'm satisfied with it, being called Car Throttle.
Wow now i'm always thinking poor mx5, cause it belongs to another person and you drive it like you don't care about it, i'd cry seeing someone drive like that with my car
i love that the donuts were just filmed with a dude running after the car with a camera in hand XD. you can tell by looking at the reflections on the cars door
Really enjoying this series, these are seriously underrated cars. Makes me want to buy another one, although the issues at the beginning should have really put me off!
Love the video. We track our 8's to and with mediocre skills keep much faster cars behind us or in sight on tracks with more high-speed sections. We have a small business B-RPM and our engines are send to Ben's guys at Rotary Revs. They are the very best! We're still small but hoping to get people more appreciative about rotary cars on the European mainland. Keep it up! And look us up B-RPM and give us a like too 😉
Rotaries are great track cars, the entire chassis and the engine actually favor these high rev scenarios. New engine will last plenty of time. Did you see where it beat the Lexus?
@@kleisgjata5644 Plenty of rotaries with proper maintenance and knowledge going well over 100k realistically. Rob Dahms old 3 rotor lasted 8 years at around 800 wheel. I understand the joke but you can make the same about plenty of piston motors blowing holes in the block.
I hate how rx8's license plates are located right infront of the grill stoping airflow, mabey he should relocate it prbly on top of the fog light grill...
Aside from Miata and an e36 bmw. Any other cars worth looking into if one is looking for a rwd track car build? Most common cars have a bigger aftermarket but it gets boring having what everyone has. Side note: I’m not in Europe so most cars they enjoy there I cannot get my hands on.
Yeah, few years ago everyone jumped on the Miata, e36/46, 240sx, 350z and that died down since 2012 but nothing different is around now. I had a 320awhp 370awtq wrx but it got boring and lost its fun.
@@Tomekkplk Get an older 2WD Toyota truck (Hilux for overseas). They're very different, and they're pretty fun stock. I've got a 4WD one and those things are fun to hoon about.
Fun fact : the mx5 c - (mark 3 ) is the rx8 chassis which has had most components slightly lightened. They didn't want to develop 2 chassis. Its why the mark 3 was bigger than the 1 and 2. Watch the savagegeese mx5 c video for more.
@Bludy Fox When Phil's V6 was dyno'd, it put out about 220bhp iirc. A lot of MX5 owners will tune their engines, to get that sort of power. I wouldn't call that cheating as such, I'd say that it's a more interesting comparison.
I love the practicality of the RX-8 with the hidden back doors. I knew someone with one when they first came out and it was a fun car, but had a bunch of issues. Some were small, such as needing a new battery, but eventually they got a BMW instead (and had different issues).
I own an RX8 PZ for the past 2 years. Never had an issue and I always do short journeys in the city. Compression is still high and I change the oil (semi-synthetic 10w40) once a year. If you look after the engine, it is fine.
4 questions:1:who owns the silver mx5 and will there be a series on it? 2:when is 2 guys 1 car going to return? 3:will ethan ever have a project car?4: will you do an update on Phil?
In the bridge vs street port vid you didn’t have many good exhaust clips PLEASE GIVE US SOME STRAIGHT EXHAUST CLIPS OF THE BEAUTIFUL POPS AND CRACKLES!!!!!!
Typical comment from someone who would have folks believe it’s a miracle it runs at all. Have owned mine for 14+ years and still waiting for my first engine problem. Most reliable car I’ve ever owned.
Another awesome episode. I have to say the Rx8 is one of the easiest rwd cars i've driven on track, they're so forgiving and the grip is unbelievable. Stick a set of track tyres on it and they're pretty much unbeatable on a tight twisty track.
Have only found your channel today and have loved the RX8 series, I picked up my first RX8 about six months ago not really knowing much about them other than the Rotary engine and that a friend had one back in the day. Have learnt show much about the car watching your channel and like felix it needs so TLC. 402 miles on a tank is amazing, mine is somewhat shy of that! Thanks again and give up the good work!!
And this is why I love my 8. It's fast where I like it fast. It's hard to beat diving into corners with 30mph warning signs at 70-80mphs and not squeaking a tire. All you need is a nice set of tires. Nitto NT05 in my case, but any comparable tire take the car another level higher in the corners.
@AYE OK SURE go back and watch the previous videos look which way they go round tight corner before the straight. I think you need to be abit more honest..
Vlad Mihai The mazda is light sports car, but it is mainly because of the track. He barely got out of second gear. On longer and faster track there will be bigger difference.
Vlad Mihai That doesn't matter. Its a 230hp car, so it will accelarate as fast as any other car with similar power/weight. Check the times on the top gear track and see the difference.
@@nikolal.4502 It does matter from an engineering point of view. Such a small engine means it takes less space, can be mounted as far back as possible, and the nose of the car is not heavy, hence the great steering that Alex is talking about. I know that from a physics point of view, power to weight is all that matters and also grip, but still, it is impressive.
After this series. You have made want to buy an RX8 (if I had the money) and get the engine rebuilt by the guys at Rotary Revs. That RX8 sounds awesome around the track.
To help with you been loose in the seat you can buy a cg lock from the owners club shop. It makes the bottom belt part like a plane belt and keeps it locked in place. I haven't fitted mine yet but using it on the RX8 track day. shop.rx8oc.co.uk/CG-Lock/p664353_8044331.aspx
I love my rx8. Warm her up before you get on it. Premix a lil bit each fill up, and do oil changes every 3k with conventional oil. It's a reliable race car, and practical. One of a kind!! People dont realize how great they are until they actually drive one.
In my quest for quicker lap times, I find my self sliding sideways out of turn 9 at Hallet Motor Racing Circuit, a corner affectionately known as "the Bitch". Struggling for rear end grip in the 2002 Camaro, I spot in the corner of my eye a Mazda Rx8 pointing directly at my passenger side door only about a cars length away. Father in the passenger seat screaming "slow down!", I must cede my position on track to the clearly superior grip of the sadly forgettable outside the track, Mazda Rx8. For when I get back on the front straight, the V8s power will once again have it's revenge.
In 2003 when the RX-8 came out with double wishbones and rear multi-link there was no competitor for the money for chassis/handling. Not much has actually changed but nobody cares because of power. Would have been as iconic as the RX-7 with 250-280 genuine HP that could be tuned for more. It wasn't to be.
Been considering replacing my miata with an rx8. The miata is fun don't get me wrong but no tcs makes it terrifying in rain and icy conditions. The top being a convertible does not seal the best making it incredibly loud on the highway and gets condensation in the interior on the windows which is frustrating as it causes visibility issues. I also just wish it had a bit more room and wasnt as small, which the rx8 solves most of those problems for me. Its a 220 something horsepower engine and a 6 speed giving me a little extra range as far as top speed goes, its much newer, its a sealed driver's cockpit, and its got 4 seats. Not to mention sounds great and a nice high rpm redline, They appear super tunable I just can't get over what everyone says about them and how unreliable they seem to be, especially since Itd be a daily for me (Not like I drive far every day but itd add up)
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Am i the only one who absolutely loves the body style of the rx8? Every since i seen it in nfs most wanted when i was 7 i just fell in love.
SAME HERE! my dream car since I was young. I've never had the courage to buy one tho due to the unreliable engine
I've had my s1 since 08. Am now hunting for s2 r3.
Me and my brother at a young age always argued over which was better me: Rx8 him: 350z until I found out how reliable the engine is.
Dude you're not alone. I love the rx8 as well. I used it and beat nfs mostwanted with that car. It's the car that got me loyal to the mazda brand
me too，and I don’t even know car brands when I was playing the game
You should get your RX-8's headlights polished, it'll help it go from looking old to pretty again
Lollikips I think he wants it to look like of shitty
Detail episode coming soon I think, just like they did for Miles the Skoda
Polishing the headlights can also reduce aerodynamic drag. You can gain up to 10 HP that way. 😉
you can easily do it yourself
You need to UV protect them after polishing though or they'll go hazy again in just a few months.
Why do we not see more of Phill on the channel??
I miss Phill so much
Check out alex ig (autoalex) phill is so gorgeous now
@@hopla7942 glad he still have it
Garage queen now?
RIP Phill ☹️
When are we going to see Phil again?!?!?!?
check out his instagram
Phil is staying away from the salty british roads for now, once cleared expect a huge comeback !
The M3 did it in 37.73 and the RX8 in 37.3. The handling in this car is epic
Rotary swap Miata?
Check out Mad Mike's 4 rotor ND MX5. If I remember correctly it sports 1200HP.
Kinda like an RX-8? I'm pretty sure the NB and RX-8 were built with all the same mechanixal bits except the engine and tranission drop gear. They didn't need room for the convertible top to drop into so they could add back seats.
never. keep the v6
Eamonn Noonan you are kidding
Hell naw
YES ALEX AMAZE DRIVING :D (let's do a tyre episode.... ;))
Everyone should be subscribing to Tyre reviews, channel should be over 100k subscriptions easy.
@@evansisgreat you're too kind. We're growing slowly, and have some mega plans for this year, not just in tyres! Other aspects of cars will be tested too :)
Amaze driving? Typo? 😂
@@evansisgreat yeah they just need to upload more before they fall off because they do really well eveytime they upload they are one of my favourite channels to watch.
Would love watching more vids of your or a car throttle tire review I need a new set of summers for my 350z!
The RX 8 is my favorite cheap sports car. They handle like a dream. I have an 05 and I could never get rid of her. There truly is nothing like a well tuned rotary engine.
The RX8 is just 1.3 sec slower than the m3 and 330d they raced on that track, and that was not all out lap of Alex. The RX8 is a fast dorito.
Actually 37.3 is .4 better than the 37.71 of the m3
I'd love to see them do a head to head, same weather conditions. I think that RX-8 has quite a bit more left with sticky tyres and a good dry track surface.
M3 and 330d had been driven on different track configuration.
The M3 is a significantly faster car, I've had both.
The RX-8 is slightly lighter than those Bimmers, also I think with rotary Mazdas, these really are built to be top notch - the handling should fully support its power and vice versa. If a car is quicker then it is about a lot of many other factors - take revving for instance - I think that RX8 revs faster than the Bimmers, add to that its amazing handling and what do you get? You get faster corner speed.
I love Mazdas, but I am unsure when it comes to rotary reliability whether I would then prefer the 330d, the M3 or go with the Mazda... wait, I know: if I had the money to get that M3 then I would rather buy a E46 M3 and... a Miata, done, coolsies :)
A stock S2000 would be an ideal rival on that track to felix. Almost the same power, also close to a 50/50 weight balance and high revving.
It's almost 100 kgs lighter than rx-8.
@@oktayozs true but a stock s2k has slightly more power.
@@ichigozanghetsu So, more power and less weight. The winner is obvious. As an rx-8 owner I can say that.
in terms of performance, slight edge to the s2k. in terms of pricing, massive edge to the rx8. in terms of reliability, HUMONGOUS edge towards the s2k. i like it. i'd also love to see the question answered after how much time an s2k becomes cheaper overall than an rx8
Its way more expensive. Or well, where I live there 9k+
Getting my Rx-8 in 2 days, these videos just increase my hype.
Just remember to stay on top of your oil change maintenance, use Pre-mix, and rev to 9000 under load at least once a day. This will help the apex seals last a long time and keep down carbon build up. Oh yeah, don't use oil lighter than 10W-30 as lighter oil doesn't protect the bearings enough. Mazda USA recommends the light oil, but Mazda Japan and all the specialty Rotary Tuning shops recommend 10W-30 or higher.
@@DatDarkOne Yea, been doing my research for ages to prepare for the car. Great part about it, is that it has a rebuilt engine in it that has only 5k miles on it. Past owner is an Rx-8 enthusiast so he kept it in great shape.
@@nickc6095 Mine still has the original engine and I just hit 144k miles. Had my ECU tuned recently by Rotary Performance in Garland, TX. If you have the chance to get your ECU tuned, I highly recommend having it done. RP only charges about $150 for it. It tweaks various other settings also like temp for the Oil Coolers opening etc.
Make sure to have a backup plan for when you break down.
@@keldondrave6180 it's a mazda, not a bmw
can we please take a moment and apreciate that this car just went 0.4 seconds faster around that track than the e90 m3? holy shit !
AND it will get a lot faster as Alex gets more confident in it too....
Great video! Even in 2019, the rx8's handling is still comparable to modern days cars. Not to mention when you use it in the category that it was actually build for, you'll be damn proud of it, as it will perform like the top of the class. Track day season coming soon :D
teach us how to do a peripheral port :)
Until the apex seals blow up again because rx8 problems
No it's not lol
@@sacatolasmoreira5593 yes it is
😋😋😋
How fun is an RX-8 in track?
5 seconds into the video: "So much fun!!!"
...behind the wheel of the MX-5
when will you do next 2 guys 1 car again? loving Rx8 series!!!
Unpopular opinion: I prefer the RX8
Yes. That is indeed a very unpopular opinion, and the bottom line is that you are wrong and you should feel bad :P
My opinion is also unpopular
I prefer the RX-8 too. I’ve had two of them.
I had my rx8 for 8yrs, just traded it for a mx5 nc. I like both cars a lot.
Miatas are much more reliable thougj
The beauty of high revving engines like the rotary is that engine torque does not matter. Engine torque only matters as a component of power when talking about performance; it's something to consider when talking about transmission design or efficiency. It's wheel torque that matters, and if you've got a high revving engine you can just use shorter gears.
Well it highly depends on application. Horsepower is a function of torque, you can’t make horsepower without torque but you need to be able to rev to go fast. Take for example a diesel (I’m talking stock) they make massive torque figures but because they’re very slow to rev they don’t really do speed. On the flip side, having a strong torque curve gives you more horsepower at a broader RPM range. Meaning your average (not peak) horsepower will be higher.
Finally someone that understands that revs alone OR torque alone are meaningless figures. It all boils down to the gearing used.
And for power you need both torque and revs. And it's always a tradeoff situation.. the higher the revs, the lower torque you're gonna have, because it means it's a engine with lower stroke, thus rotating faster, but having less radius on the crankshaft, thus producing less torque (a force applied at a distance)
and they often need to idle higher, doe to the lower torque as well. I see it more as a percentage of the rev range used, and on that level, it is the same as a lower reving eng
Wait. The rx-8 is faster then the civic type-r then?
and faster than the M3.
rx8 is probably the best Track car for the price its set at, Very underrated car
Matthias Annaberger yea and that i call bullshit on lol.
Is it that surprising
Being RWD and 50/50 weight distribution will help a lot in these conditions. A rwd car will generally always be faster off the line than FWD.
As an MX5 Owner, I'm going to wait to watch this until tonight, on the big screen, with popcorn and a Cold-One!! Can't wait!!!!
After you finish cutting hair?
@@NatanaelAlexandru LOL, how did I not see that coming? That was RICH!!
@@toshibavoodoo And yet again we realize that there are two kinds of people: Those who think the MX5 is a Hairdresser Porche and those who have driven one.
Before I bought my second car I was between a MX-5 and E36, guess who's not using their blinkers
I'm austrian and i've owned an Rx-8 for about 10 years now. You should try it on a snowy mountain pass, to see how well it goes sideways! It digs up the hill with spinning wheels and you don't really have to fight it, you just steer it with the gas pedal, if you want to change from left to right, you don't even really have to steer, you just lift the throttle to shift the weight,... i love mine so much, i could write for hours.
Please do more funny videos like "Rusty Nuts" or "BMW school"
That is the '2 guys 1 car' series.
Love the RX8.. Keep pushing for Mazda content. Want to know another Mazda that has been long forgotten? The Mazdaspeed 6. I drive one myself and recently talked about it! Check me out.
C.J. David great car bro
I wish Mazda brings back Mazdaspeed
Mazda speed 6 was a sleeper from the factory. Plus mazdaspeed 3 MPS was a hot hatch that would still put the golf gti to shame.
Mx-3 cost abit more but they are long and forgotten
BASITH PH Thanks brotha! Sadly Mazda doesn’t need to bring it back... They will more than likely lose money lol.
My brother has a speed 6, never driven one but nice as a passenger
I’m sorry but
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nguyen
Except when MR2T is the answer
Hell yeah
Miata is always the answer... when you cant afford an FD RX7 with a built engine.
If you can fit in it unlike me lol
Light weight is really the key , the RX8 is almost faster than any of your other built cars that went around this track ..
I still maintain that the RX-8 is by far one of the best driving cars in the world. When we tested my tuned daily driver example on The Slip Angle EP 10, I was amazed by it's on track performance. What a beautifully balanced chassis. A true dancing partner. Jaw's drop when I say the RX-8 drive's better than my FD RX-7, but regardless it's the hands down truth.
I 100% agree. It was a joy to drive and I still miss mine..... Never driven a better more fun car since....
When a Mazda Rx-8 hit a time of 37,3 and a E92 M3 beat it only by 0,2 of a second :)
We want the comparison between rx8 and GT86!
@AYE OK SURE Great comment!)
Alex for top gear? Please it would be great.
Why would one wish to put a BBC leash on a rare unstereotyped wildlife petrolheads?
Original trio shown the finger to Top Gear, and i think we should do the same. A man make the show, never show makes a man. So at this point, i'm satisfied with it, being called Car Throttle.
As someone who has owned both, they feel very similar suspension wise power wise the Miata lacks big time. Rx8 any day
Turbo it and make it a true rx7 successor.
renesis hates turbos tho
@@koichi6154 but its possible so who cares if the engine doesn't like it lol
Renesis Engines absolutely hate turbos due to the High compression and porting, Id suggest him to Put an Rx7 13b REW and big turbo it
when you dont know how a rotary works "turbo it bro"
@@vistalacorsa5343 yea for 30k + no one will do that unless that fucking love rx8s and rx8s only
Wow now i'm always thinking poor mx5, cause it belongs to another person and you drive it like you don't care about it, i'd cry seeing someone drive like that with my car
Yes. My boring day is gonna get good now that you guys have uploaded.
@@qzillavr3014 It did unfortunately.
RX-8 for days. But with my money I’d get an M135i.
Would love to see an E82 120D get some love from Car Throttle
@@Paul-c01 why?
He's always looking down to the shift stick when he's shifting... I mean, it's not movin somewhere else.... As a German, this offends me :D
"When it works, it works awesomely" rx8 quotes😂
i love that the donuts were just filmed with a dude running after the car with a camera in hand XD. you can tell by looking at the reflections on the cars door
Really enjoying this series, these are seriously underrated cars. Makes me want to buy another one, although the issues at the beginning should have really put me off!
Free… 2… 1…
I laughed much more than I should have :D
Next project : do a turbo kit on a used car
Ok ok ok!! I've subscribed!!
It's to much good stuff to miss..
Very well done and put together.
Love the video. We track our 8's to and with mediocre skills keep much faster cars behind us or in sight on tracks with more high-speed sections.
We have a small business B-RPM and our engines are send to Ben's guys at Rotary Revs. They are the very best!
We're still small but hoping to get people more appreciative about rotary cars on the European mainland.
Keep it up! And look us up B-RPM and give us a like too 😉
U'r gonna have to ribuild the engine after this 😂
I was going to say the very same!
@@DonPablo2011 im gonna live longer 😂😂
Rotaries are great track cars, the entire chassis and the engine actually favor these high rev scenarios. New engine will last plenty of time. Did you see where it beat the Lexus?
@@Sprier plenty of time means 30k?😂😂 Come on man i like ethans videos and it was a joke. ☺️
@@kleisgjata5644 Plenty of rotaries with proper maintenance and knowledge going well over 100k realistically. Rob Dahms old 3 rotor lasted 8 years at around 800 wheel. I understand the joke but you can make the same about plenty of piston motors blowing holes in the block.
I hate how rx8's license plates are located right infront of the grill stoping airflow, mabey he should relocate it prbly on top of the fog light grill...
6:38 lmao the beep isn’t the engine being happy, it’s the engine saying “dear god shift already”
Mazda community is just so chill, we’re not comparing speed or hp, we’re comparing how fun to drive the cars are
But where is the red mx-5?
E- bit his name is Phil
james Long oh ok
“Not every fast car is fun and not every slow car is boring” - guy from internet
Aside from Miata and an e36 bmw. Any other cars worth looking into if one is looking for a rwd track car build? Most common cars have a bigger aftermarket but it gets boring having what everyone has. Side note: I’m not in Europe so most cars they enjoy there I cannot get my hands on.
Tomekkplk same
Yeah, few years ago everyone jumped on the Miata, e36/46, 240sx, 350z and that died down since 2012 but nothing different is around now. I had a 320awhp 370awtq wrx but it got boring and lost its fun.
Tomekkplk I’m going to get a Mercedes 500e (hopefully supercharge it!)
@@Tomekkplk Get an older 2WD Toyota truck (Hilux for overseas). They're very different, and they're pretty fun stock. I've got a 4WD one and those things are fun to hoon about.
Im currently building a fb rx7 that i got for free but thinking i should have started with a rx8
All this video has done is confirm my belief that I need an NA in my life.
Fun fact : the mx5 c - (mark 3 ) is the rx8 chassis which has had most components slightly lightened. They didn't want to develop 2 chassis. Its why the mark 3 was bigger than the 1 and 2. Watch the savagegeese mx5 c video for more.
Should have been Phil Vs . Felix 🙂
@Bludy Fox When Phil's V6 was dyno'd, it put out about 220bhp iirc. A lot of MX5 owners will tune their engines, to get that sort of power.
I wouldn't call that cheating as such, I'd say that it's a more interesting comparison.
Bludy Fox the video is about “fun factor”, the lap time is secondary 🙂
You should compare th rx8 with an s2000. Probably my 2 fav cars
YES DAY HAS BEEN MADE!!!!!
the best part was "oh crap, CUT..!!" very good episode!!! also thanks for the street ported / bridge ported one
You can have fun in rx8 until the oil burns but with the mx5 you can have for days!
premix
And really doesnt use that much 1/2 quart of oil per three tanks of fuel
You can refill oil like you refill fuel, there's nothing stopping you from driving for days in one..
Ive had petrol BMWs that burned more oil than the RX8, you clearly never owned one, people say the same things, gets boring.
No we don't say f instead of th my guy. American gang Unite
I love the practicality of the RX-8 with the hidden back doors. I knew someone with one when they first came out and it was a fun car, but had a bunch of issues. Some were small, such as needing a new battery, but eventually they got a BMW instead (and had different issues).
LEGO airship Ha! The little Renesis is the heart of the 8 and the best thing about the car.
Have had one for 12 years, that's literally the only problem I've ever had with it. Nobody has been able to figure out the battery draining.
didnt it also beat both of the bmws? impressive car, they also have a huge amount of torsional rigidity
That's a cliffhanger ending lol
I own an RX8 PZ for the past 2 years. Never had an issue and I always do short journeys in the city. Compression is still high and I change the oil (semi-synthetic 10w40) once a year. If you look after the engine, it is fine.
The answer is *fun*
Alex,when you're changing the clutch, you should get a lightened flywheel. Get the revs up quicker..
yes, this is a great mod on the RX8, but a bit late now he did all the engine out stuff already! unless the clutch dies soon....
Damn now you need a celica gt four.
Ye
Pascal Kirchmayer
For real. My ST-205 and my SW20T would fucking destroy these cars.
False.
*insert Celica GT-FOUR drifting around the hairpin*
hi dere
This has always been my favorite but it’s extreme overkill in this conversation.
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4 questions:1:who owns the silver mx5 and will there be a series on it? 2:when is 2 guys 1 car going to return? 3:will ethan ever have a project car?4: will you do an update on Phil?
He did say who the owner of the MX-5 was...
Nice driving, but needs more EUROBEAT!!!! 😎 🚗💨
In the bridge vs street port vid you didn’t have many good exhaust clips PLEASE GIVE US SOME STRAIGHT EXHAUST CLIPS OF THE BEAUTIFUL POPS AND CRACKLES!!!!!!
How much fun is repairing a RX-8 on the race track? (This is a joke btw)
Way more fun than driving a diesel. 🙂
Typical comment from someone who would have folks believe it’s a miracle it runs at all. Have owned mine for 14+ years and still waiting for my first engine problem. Most reliable car I’ve ever owned.
@@Saboda53 You know it's a joke. Right?
@AYE OK SURE I don't have a car.
@AYE OK SURE What about rotary diesels?
Next build an S14 or S15 Silvia? Cheap, handle well, easy to get power etc!
I love rx-7 FD than a rx-8 give a like if you do😍😍💓💓
Why aren’t you driving Phil rather than that shit box?
Another awesome episode.
I have to say the Rx8 is one of the easiest rwd cars i've driven on track, they're so forgiving and the grip is unbelievable.
Stick a set of track tyres on it and they're pretty much unbeatable on a tight twisty track.
can't trust someone with a cellphone for lap times
Have only found your channel today and have loved the RX8 series, I picked up my first RX8 about six months ago not really knowing much about them other than the Rotary engine and that a friend had one back in the day. Have learnt show much about the car watching your channel and like felix it needs so TLC. 402 miles on a tank is amazing, mine is somewhat shy of that! Thanks again and give up the good work!!
And this is why I love my 8. It's fast where I like it fast. It's hard to beat diving into corners with 30mph warning signs at 70-80mphs and not squeaking a tire. All you need is a nice set of tires. Nitto NT05 in my case, but any comparable tire take the car another level higher in the corners.
For people thinking its as quick as the 330d and type R etc looks like the RX8 and Mx5 did a different layout of the track
@AYE OK SURE go back and watch the previous videos look which way they go round tight corner before the straight. I think you need to be abit more honest..
Did you use DSC? or turned it off on RX-8?
Anyone know where to find the sticker at 1:17 ???
Im looking at 08 rx8 6speed i really want it🙏🙏
"Barely enough torque to lift a man off the toilet" are probably the greatest phrase that's ever been said
haha yeah i burst out laughing then too...
that's not herbera or whatever it is
that's the car throttle test track
So, let me understand. BMW M3, V8 400 ish HP did 37.1s and this mazda with a 1.3L rotary did 37.3s? Wow
Vlad Mihai The mazda is light sports car, but it is mainly because of the track. He barely got out of second gear. On longer and faster track there will be bigger difference.
@@nikolal.4502 I get this, but that is still very impressive considering that rotary is so tiny and has almost no torque.
Vlad Mihai That doesn't matter. Its a 230hp car, so it will accelarate as fast as any other car with similar power/weight.
Check the times on the top gear track and see the difference.
@@nikolal.4502 It does matter from an engineering point of view. Such a small engine means it takes less space, can be mounted as far back as possible, and the nose of the car is not heavy, hence the great steering that Alex is talking about. I know that from a physics point of view, power to weight is all that matters and also grip, but still, it is impressive.
Vlad Mihai Yes, I meant about the torque, otherwise the car handles great.
MX-5 vs ae86 would be a good test on which is more fun
good luck finding an ae86...
I'd choose a Mk3 2.0 MX-5 if you want the best of both worlds.
Final question over all would you pick the mx5 or the rx8?
Alex is cheating on phill!
He drives another mx-5!
If i tell this to phil he would cry and leave you! 😂
After this series. You have made want to buy an RX8 (if I had the money) and get the engine rebuilt by the guys at Rotary Revs.
That RX8 sounds awesome around the track.
Because Pettit Racing catback! 8)
that rx-8 is my dream. ill drive my mazda 6 for now.
ok, I officially no longer hate the rx-8
Fcukin well funny! Alex is a DRIVING GOD 👌🏻😉😂
How much fun? well that's easy.....ALL OF IT, EVERY LAST BIT OF IT!!
Alex : swears
Subtitles : *MUSIC*
To help with you been loose in the seat you can buy a cg lock from the owners club shop. It makes the bottom belt part like a plane belt and keeps it locked in place. I haven't fitted mine yet but using it on the RX8 track day. shop.rx8oc.co.uk/CG-Lock/p664353_8044331.aspx
I love my rx8. Warm her up before you get on it. Premix a lil bit each fill up, and do oil changes every 3k with conventional oil. It's a reliable race car, and practical. One of a kind!! People dont realize how great they are until they actually drive one.
In my quest for quicker lap times, I find my self sliding sideways out of turn 9 at Hallet Motor Racing Circuit, a corner affectionately known as "the Bitch". Struggling for rear end grip in the 2002 Camaro, I spot in the corner of my eye a Mazda Rx8 pointing directly at my passenger side door only about a cars length away. Father in the passenger seat screaming "slow down!", I must cede my position on track to the clearly superior grip of the sadly forgettable outside the track, Mazda Rx8. For when I get back on the front straight, the V8s power will once again have it's revenge.
In 2003 when the RX-8 came out with double wishbones and rear multi-link there was no competitor for the money for chassis/handling. Not much has actually changed but nobody cares because of power. Would have been as iconic as the RX-7 with 250-280 genuine HP that could be tuned for more. It wasn't to be.
Been considering replacing my miata with an rx8. The miata is fun don't get me wrong but no tcs makes it terrifying in rain and icy conditions. The top being a convertible does not seal the best making it incredibly loud on the highway and gets condensation in the interior on the windows which is frustrating as it causes visibility issues. I also just wish it had a bit more room and wasnt as small, which the rx8 solves most of those problems for me. Its a 220 something horsepower engine and a 6 speed giving me a little extra range as far as top speed goes, its much newer, its a sealed driver's cockpit, and its got 4 seats. Not to mention sounds great and a nice high rpm redline, They appear super tunable I just can't get over what everyone says about them and how unreliable they seem to be, especially since Itd be a daily for me (Not like I drive far every day but itd add up)
rx8 on coilovers, semislicks and better brakes will be a very good track car but mx5 will always be more fun!
"Oh crap" Alex 2019