It’s an amazing car overshadowed by the unreliable new engine design and cooling issues, otherwise it’s the best Rotary Experimental chassis and a bit more practical too
@@shaunsteele2943 the engine is far from unreliable, as long as it is driven like this all the time. The cooling issues are easy to fix with a simple stiffening of the undertray and beefing up the sealing around the radiator.
Even if he had his phone out, it's his car, his time, his money, why all cry babies are yapping all the time when someone pulls his phone and immortalise a moment....
Misha is already doing it for you way better than you can. Why would you take a video of the whole lap while there is a video like this instead of enjoying it?
@@vahitguetta23even Misha did it in his recent ferrari challenge passenger laps, it's also a different perspective when the camera isn't directly mounted to the chassis
I got to drive one in 06 when working at a dealer, if there is a car more fun than a Honda to rev to redline, these are it... It's like a 2 stroke dirt bike, comes alive in the last part of the rev range!
@@Mecks_Music no its not, unless the ECU has been remapped, where stock rpm limit is 9000 rpm. The gauge shows 9500 rpm when the engine is rotating 9000 rpm.. very stupid from mazda...
@@EngineeringSiblings the cars almost 20 years old bro chill. rx8's were solid cruisers, if you knew how to work on them or know someone who can your golden, save the Doritos! Bridgeport and a turbo would make this thing rip hard.
The 190hp RX8 rev limit is 7500rpm. The 230hp RX8 rev limit is 9000rpm. Car shown is 230 as distinguished by headlamp washers.Thank you Misha for many enjoyable laps of the ring.
@@j7... The main reason is : 190hp 13b 4 port engine and 230hp is 6 ports engine , thats the main difference , here in USA/CAN the automatics were 4 ports and M6's were 6 ports
@@simondubois3165 close - from MY 2006 onwards, all autos got the 6 port and a 6AT, whereas earlier autos were 4 port and (I believe) 4AT. The Euro/JP market 4 port manual cars also had a 5 speed transmission that came from the FD.
Previous rx8 owner here! Would like to give you some tips to the owner of the rx8. First off, great vid and the engine seems super healthy! If you plan on doing some power mods look no further I got you! Best power mods I did for the car were: exedy stg 2 Clutch (do not go for stage 1, it is not compatible and bad reviews) and lightweight flywheel (BHR) BHR ignition kit (stops car from flooding) Poly engine mounts Catless midpipe Tune that increased rev limiter to 9600 ( I had racing beat v2) stock airbox mod For the track: SS brake lines (stainless steel) better pads, you do not need a big brake kit for the rx8 lightweight wheels - 245 wide tires or higher square stance premix the engine with 2 stroke oil at all times and make sure engine oil is almost full, you will guaranteed burn half a quart on the ring you could get go poly bushings everywhere shocks and springs ( do not make the car too stiff, it doesn't need it - the chassis is very very rigid as is) If you absolutely wanna squeeze more power, then get headers, catback and a streetport but that is very $$$ and what I mentioned will get you 25-30whp easily these engines are a nightmare to get passed 210whp without some good internal work Now for the transmission.... make sure the subframe is aligned, these cars are very sensitive to that and overtime the transmission gets misaligned Ive blown 3 of these transmissions, 2nd gear is very weak and it does not like the high rpm change from 3rd to 4th because of how long the gearing is between the 3-4 shift and finally, if you do not have the heatshield between the cat and the transmission, the plastic shifter starts to melt and you will often miss gears or even gear lockout can occur. My 2 cents, happy ownership! By far the best braking and handling car on the street I've ever had, no other car has replicated the balance this car has. Even the way it takes bumps mid turns is incredible and very few vehicles can replicate that.
Hello, thank you for the comment. I'll look into getting some of the mods for the RX-8 as I know it deserves to be kept on the road. I'll make sure to look after it for you 👍🏻
Just think how much more financially better off you’d have been if you bought a car that is actually quick and doesn’t use half the fuel and oil that an rx8 does 😂
@@CrazyPanda688 thanks for the comment, although certainly not the quickest out the box and yes very thirsty at times (mine only has 17k miles). This was the first car I purchased after selling my first business. Amongst my other vehicles (720s, 992 GT3 , DB11, R35 GTR) I still love getting in the RX8 as it has so much character with the 13B rotary this is why it will always stay in my fleet
@@CrazyPanda688If one can afford it, then who are we to say it's a bad financial decision? Live your life the way you want because death is the same for everybody
I watched your video early on and the car looked familiar but when it spun there was only one person in the car, so I was sort of relieved that it wasn't Misha when I read your comment. 🙂
Thanks guys the RX8 always punches well above it's weight , showed the BRZ a clean set of heals , at 20 years it's elder . Mazda engineering at it's best !!
Anyone who has owned a rotary and properly wrung it out loved this. Fond memories of my rx7. Never forget the balance of the chassis and how smooth it was.
The video says it all. I got a new loaded 2004 RX-8 6-speed in 2005. Stock but added a few things for looks. Also wheels, tires and MazdaSpeed exhaust. Daily drove it for 10 years of 9000 rpm, great sound and back road fun. It was super nimble and planted on the highway too. Traded it in for a 2015 Camaro RS 2LT 6-speed which is great, but not many cars in the world are more fun to drive than some Mazda's.
"9000, huh? Yep, go for it" Takes it to 9500 immediately. Awesome! These engines can easily take 10k with a little work and balancing, although I'm not sure I would take it there with a lot of unknowns.
I've been considering an RX8 as a fun little track toy for a while, since most tracks in my area are too small for much more than 250-300hp anyways. I'd have to drive 6-8 hours to get to Calabogie or Mosport for some more serious stuff. The RX8 doesn't have brute force, it's a scalpel of a chassis and all about carrying momentum, cornering speed and keeping the engine in it's happy rev range. Fantastic driving as always Misha 👌
I track mine and have no issues, it absolutely sings its way around a track. It’s also fun catching cars it has no business catching, granted suspension and 200tw tires help. But to most it looks unsuspecting af. And somehow it smokes less than the s2ks while smoking s2ks if u know what I mean lmao
coolest sound ive heard in a long time these rx8s are amazing track cars but you must tub the rims to maximise performance especially for a 1.3ltr engine, all that pure engine is now disappearing. JMO the big brother we wish we had
Putting wider wheels will only serve to slow it down since it doesn't really have the power to turn them. I have an 07 with an LS2 swap and running 10'' wheels with 275 toyo's square and it handles phenomenally with them
Glad to see the Rx8 back again. And this time driven to its full potential. I own 2 of them and I have no Regrets. They are amazing cars for the Price they handle well and its a 4 door. So what Else can you ask for in a cheap sports car.
That is one heroic little car: not only did it survive Alex’s tender mercies (an achievement for any car!) but also Knockhill and now the Nurburgring! All while being a mildly abused old “unreliable” car…
There's not much you can do to them short of a few suspension/brake tweaks and piling a ton of money into a low boost turbo setup that may or may not make the engine go pop.
So glad Misha got a run with another RX8, but my man, Misha... you HAVE to find someone (unfortunately I would love to lend you mine, but I'm in the USA) that has a proper suspension and tire setup. This thing corners like a beast on coilovers, sway bars, and wider tires. A few things to point out, there are some differences between the Series 1 and Series 2 RX8's. Amongst them is, the Series 1 transmission was not as good as the series 2, 4th gear grinding was very common. Series 2 transmission can bolt up to a Series 1, and gives you better gearing, keeping the Series 1 Diff and whatnot at least in my experience of doing the swap. I'm curious how how the coolant got during the lap. I'm sure oil temps were fine because it comes with 2 very good oil coolers from factory, it's coolant you need to be wary of... if it reaches 100C, you risk coolant seal failures.
@@richardggeorge coolant seals are not the same like headgaskets on piston engines, they are much more fragile, made of rubber like material. Too many extremely high temp sessions CAN cook them, so safest thing to do is try to keep coolant temps below 100C as much as possible. The "Too hot!" radiator fan setting kicks in at 102C
Hey! Owner of an S1 RX-8 here! I was asking myself the same thing, what about coolant temps on the ring? Bcs I have mine built for going up mountain passes and still it struggles a bit even with a custom re-map, Mishimoto fans and a bigger radiator than spec. I think the same, you need to try one with coilovers, it's a completely different car! People that went for a ride in mine told me that they had a similar experience driving a kart. Also if the owner reads this: Mods I would put in: Install a Sohn kit, buy an oil sandwich adapter and get yourself some gauges of coolant temp, oil pressure and oil temp. With that, respecting warming ups and cooling downs and proper oil and sparkplugs changes you have a car as reliable as any other. Enjoy it!
101c is programmed into the fan curves to only then turn the fans on high (2004 model). The fans don't even turn on at all until it hits 97c. I've hit around 110c without any damage when I had a fan not working correctly and still have no damage. Of course I wouldn't recommend staying at 110c, its definitely too hot but its not gonna break as soon as you hit 100c lol.
Back in 1970 in Ontario, Canada, I had the 2nd Mazda R100. There was no rev. limiter. It was just screaming at 11,000/12,000 RPM. Three engines later: well that was it.
i adore rotaries and this was such a joy to watch, to car sounded awesome, misha drover it superb and it really does seem to handle quite well. Boy those 9000RPM's are awesome :D
Rx8. The car I would have bought if I could have. Love them. Not a proper sports car and not a regular saloon. A car that just did its own thing, its own way. One broke down near my street rhe orher year. The engine was done, but the car was in such good condition the guy said he planned to put in a new one.
This is what cars are for- not for garaging and investing with no miles. They should be run to the edges of the engineering and enjoyed. He'll remember this lap forever! What a canny buy.
I haven't tried the RX-8 or the S2000, but I guess the latter would be more reliable and probably as enjoyable, if the goal is to go to 9k 😅Although the prices are not "exactly" the same...
Did you run on road tires if i looked correctly? If you had semi slicks i think the time would be much lower !!! I had an rx8 with the 192hp and 5 speed gearbox. Even slower than the 231 version but with a Tein Coilover and proper alignment it felt fantastic!!!
Automatic RX-8s had a redline around 7500 if I remember. That one sounds pretty solid still. Since it's an S1, get an S2 starter if it doesn't already for faster starts. THere's another post in comments for other upgrades but the ignition system is key to keep up on.
If power was around 400 hp or above Rx-8 might be fast as hell. I think chassis can handle more power but Mazda limited engine power unfortunately. My dream setup is buying Rx-8, swap K24 engine, upgrade with turbo, coilover etc. and hunt some fast cars :)
I think rx8 frame is not hard enough for turbo. And it would lose its philosophy, k24 is not so light as rotary engine. RX-8 needs no tuning IMO as MX-5, its fun to drive without anything
It's not so much that they limited engine power, they squeezed every bit of power they could out of it while still trying to keep fuel consumptions and emissions in check. It takes serious effort to make more power out of the renesis engine without going for forced induction.
@@joost1120 And even then you can only reliably run very low boost. This engine is honestly up to its limits as it is. Not everything has to be stupid-fast in a straight line to be fun. My Tesla does that, it's boring. When I want fun I take out the RX8 (or my 380hp Audi BAM-swapped Lotus Elise. :P)
Love this kind of laps - full on enjoyment. Its always great to see an owner who trully enjoys the lap and is not shy to show their emotions. As for RX-8 amazing car - would like to own one some time in the future. Cheers!
Rotary engine i actually pretty reliable if u push them and keep them warm... Look back to 1991 when a Mazda 787b that work about 9000-10500 rpm actually won 24hour Le mans...👍😎
Idk what you have done under the hood but they really do well if you put a set of LS coils on them and tune software. I have Bennett built ignition coils and versatune flash software, she can scream at 10,000 all day and keeps pulling. Stock header, catless midpipe and hks high power single exhaust, loudest 13b NA
One day I'll buy my dream 1st Gen RX7, then the rotary will blow up (as one usually does), I'll rebuild it into a street/time attack car, ship it to Germany and you'll drive it. Mark my works Misha, I'm coming lol.
I've heard the proper way to rebuild these is to add some sort of modded / external oil injection system so that you can properly lubricate the combustion chamber with purpose fit oil and they become more reliable. I'm not a rotary guy, but I've seen it a few times on good rotary builds.
i hate that Mazda make this without Turbo. i have rx8 since 8 years but i have to admit it's slow. İf you don't mind fuel consumption it could be good daily tho. i have never had problems. Just maintenance. But i am planned to sell mine. Maybe will buy rx7 turbo.
Ever since I put that mishimoto radiator , fans plus and thermostat and the silicone hoses and full titanium exhaust car is so well balanced and fun to drive mind y’all my Audi s4 b5 got 500hp + and would randomly oversteer on a corner at 55 Lmfaoo
There was ontging wrong with the 7500 rpm car. You just have 2 versions of an rx8, one Goes to 7500rpm 192hp and the HP version had 231hp and revs till 9500 rpm
NGL, I’m impressed the RX-8 made it to Germany! 😂
And it made it all the way back to England without fault. Absolutely fantastic car. It might make it to shedfest 2025...
@@ArcticRunnerNBwich mods?
@@trspablo6111 mods? I am thinking of modifying it properly. But that takes even more money 😅
@@ArcticRunnerNB is stock?
@trspablo6111 apart from a D-cat exhaust, she was completely stock
Misha is like the best friend you never had.
Heyy, he's all of our best friend. Right Misha? 😊Deal? 😆😆
I wish!
Still, Russian roots growing up in NL - that means you're going to take a beating from that friend whether you want to or not :D
that sounds like unhealthy parasocial
@@velocityfpv5231Sure thing doctor.
For a standard car, this is actually quite impressive that it doesn't look slow, handles quite well and just sounded the business. A+
well it's still an RX-8, it was very well reviewed by critics iirc
Rx8 has won multiple best handling car awards so its not surprising
Sounds absolutely mental. Could listen to this all day.
It’s an amazing car overshadowed by the unreliable new engine design and cooling issues, otherwise it’s the best Rotary Experimental chassis and a bit more practical too
@@shaunsteele2943 the engine is far from unreliable, as long as it is driven like this all the time. The cooling issues are easy to fix with a simple stiffening of the undertray and beefing up the sealing around the radiator.
No phones, No nothing - just 2 guys enjoying a lap in a fantastic car! Smiles and laughs - i love it!
Great video, and a Great owner 👌
Even if he had his phone out, it's his car, his time, his money, why all cry babies are yapping all the time when someone pulls his phone and immortalise a moment....
Misha is already doing it for you way better than you can. Why would you take a video of the whole lap while there is a video like this instead of enjoying it?
@@vahitguetta23even Misha did it in his recent ferrari challenge passenger laps, it's also a different perspective when the camera isn't directly mounted to the chassis
@@Kacper_Kolodziejczyk He didn’t take the whole lap. That’s not what I said. I was talking about those who take the whole lap.
@@andrewichim4735 its so stupid like the people at a concert taking photos or at a football game. Enjoy the moment
I remember my first ride in an RX-8, year 2005. Awesome new car, a rotary, suicide doors, and rpms over 9000!!!!!!
I got to drive one in 06 when working at a dealer, if there is a car more fun than a Honda to rev to redline, these are it... It's like a 2 stroke dirt bike, comes alive in the last part of the rev range!
Sadly those are fake rpm numbers (obd shows the actual ones)
it's over 9000 #vegeta
@@Mecks_Music no its not, unless the ECU has been remapped, where stock rpm limit is 9000 rpm. The gauge shows 9500 rpm when the engine is rotating 9000 rpm.. very stupid from mazda...
@@EngineeringSiblings the cars almost 20 years old bro chill. rx8's were solid cruisers, if you knew how to work on them or know someone who can your golden, save the Doritos! Bridgeport and a turbo would make this thing rip hard.
The 190hp RX8 rev limit is 7500rpm. The 230hp RX8 rev limit is 9000rpm. Car shown is 230 as distinguished by headlamp washers.Thank you Misha for many enjoyable laps of the ring.
Never heard that before
I have the 230 horse motor and no washers. I think they are different packages.
Most importantly however: all 230 HP have got the bigger Front Brake
@@j7... The main reason is : 190hp 13b 4 port engine and 230hp is 6 ports engine , thats the main difference , here in USA/CAN the automatics were 4 ports and M6's were 6 ports
@@simondubois3165 close - from MY 2006 onwards, all autos got the 6 port and a 6AT, whereas earlier autos were 4 port and (I believe) 4AT. The Euro/JP market 4 port manual cars also had a 5 speed transmission that came from the FD.
Previous rx8 owner here! Would like to give you some tips to the owner of the rx8. First off, great vid and the engine seems super healthy! If you plan on doing some power mods look no further I got you!
Best power mods I did for the car were:
exedy stg 2 Clutch (do not go for stage 1, it is not compatible and bad reviews) and lightweight flywheel (BHR)
BHR ignition kit (stops car from flooding)
Poly engine mounts
Catless midpipe
Tune that increased rev limiter to 9600 ( I had racing beat v2)
stock airbox mod
For the track:
SS brake lines (stainless steel)
better pads, you do not need a big brake kit for the rx8
lightweight wheels - 245 wide tires or higher square stance
premix the engine with 2 stroke oil at all times and make sure engine oil is almost full, you will guaranteed burn half a quart on the ring
you could get go poly bushings everywhere
shocks and springs ( do not make the car too stiff, it doesn't need it - the chassis is very very rigid as is)
If you absolutely wanna squeeze more power, then get headers, catback and a streetport but that is very $$$ and what I mentioned will get you 25-30whp easily
these engines are a nightmare to get passed 210whp without some good internal work
Now for the transmission....
make sure the subframe is aligned, these cars are very sensitive to that and overtime the transmission gets misaligned
Ive blown 3 of these transmissions, 2nd gear is very weak and it does not like the high rpm change from 3rd to 4th because of how long the gearing is between the 3-4 shift
and finally, if you do not have the heatshield between the cat and the transmission, the plastic shifter starts to melt and you will often miss gears or even gear lockout can occur.
My 2 cents, happy ownership! By far the best braking and handling car on the street I've ever had, no other car has replicated the balance this car has. Even the way it takes bumps mid turns is incredible and very few vehicles can replicate that.
Hello, thank you for the comment. I'll look into getting some of the mods for the RX-8 as I know it deserves to be kept on the road. I'll make sure to look after it for you 👍🏻
Forgot to mention that I am the owner of the RX-8 in this Video 😅
@@ArcticRunnerNB How difficult is it to find a mechanic that works on rotary engines?
Wish you were here in NZ, good friend builds 13b B/P port motors to delete the Renesis. If you have the $$ maybe an engine swap?
People like you are the gold of a car community. Thank you.
Still have my 2005 231 RX8 . 20 years of ownership next year
You are incredible for having it for so long. You have my full respect 🙏
Just think how much more financially better off you’d have been if you bought a car that is actually quick and doesn’t use half the fuel and oil that an rx8 does 😂
@@CrazyPanda688 thanks for the comment, although certainly not the quickest out the box and yes very thirsty at times (mine only has 17k miles). This was the first car I purchased after selling my first business. Amongst my other vehicles (720s, 992 GT3 , DB11, R35 GTR) I still love getting in the RX8 as it has so much character with the 13B rotary this is why it will always stay in my fleet
@@CrazyPanda688If one can afford it, then who are we to say it's a bad financial decision? Live your life the way you want because death is the same for everybody
@@CrazyPanda688 doesn't matter if it stays in the garage most of its life
Yes! I'm glad to see Misha using all the rpm of the Renesis engine!
RX-8 isn't very fast but it wasn't slow when Misha driving it either!
And that lap after the new owner spun it in Brunnchen lol
its impossible to train to pilot without having to much money...
I watched your video early on and the car looked familiar but when it spun there was only one person in the car, so I was sort of relieved that it wasn't Misha when I read your comment. 🙂
My mistake on Brunnchen 😅
Why u snitchin Like that 😂
@@loredanatafuro7826it's a matter of public record
So underrated as a chassis... everyone hates on em but put them on a track and they'll leave you in the dust.
It's over 9000? 😄
Super nice smooth flowing lap. Very enjoyable to watch.
Said "it's 9000, right?" and immediately revved out to 9500 on the first shift.
Just Misha things
@@dielaughing73 lmao 😆
😂
:D :D
Thanks guys the RX8 always punches well above it's weight , showed the BRZ a clean set of heals , at 20 years it's elder . Mazda engineering at it's best !!
Anyone who has owned a rotary and properly wrung it out loved this. Fond memories of my rx7. Never forget the balance of the chassis and how smooth it was.
Fond memories. Had 2 rx8 in the past. Power isn’t great but absolutely a fun car to drive.
I just subbed, just to see and hear this rx8, glad i did
Thank you and welcome!
I've just subbed too. 🙂Great video, Misha!
That sounded awesome at 9k plus rpm. I never realised just how good they sounded.
The video says it all. I got a new loaded 2004 RX-8 6-speed in 2005. Stock but added a few things for looks. Also wheels, tires and MazdaSpeed exhaust. Daily drove it for 10 years of 9000 rpm, great sound and back road fun. It was super nimble and planted on the highway too. Traded it in for a 2015 Camaro RS 2LT 6-speed which is great, but not many cars in the world are more fun to drive than some Mazda's.
"9000, huh? Yep, go for it" Takes it to 9500 immediately. Awesome! These engines can easily take 10k with a little work and balancing, although I'm not sure I would take it there with a lot of unknowns.
*_OVER 9000!!!_*
Best lap of this year so far.
Love everything the car the owners enthusiast attitude
And obviously Misha’s drive as usual amazing.
Thank you!
I've been considering an RX8 as a fun little track toy for a while, since most tracks in my area are too small for much more than 250-300hp anyways. I'd have to drive 6-8 hours to get to Calabogie or Mosport for some more serious stuff. The RX8 doesn't have brute force, it's a scalpel of a chassis and all about carrying momentum, cornering speed and keeping the engine in it's happy rev range. Fantastic driving as always Misha 👌
I track mine and have no issues, it absolutely sings its way around a track. It’s also fun catching cars it has no business catching, granted suspension and 200tw tires help. But to most it looks unsuspecting af. And somehow it smokes less than the s2ks while smoking s2ks if u know what I mean lmao
The 192 Version of the RX8 only goes to 7k by factory, Nice to see you aren't afraid of the beep anymore.
I really love the RX8. With the right mods this thing can turn into a tracktool for sure
coolest sound ive heard in a long time these rx8s are amazing track cars but you must tub the rims to maximise performance especially for a 1.3ltr engine, all that pure engine is now disappearing.
JMO the big brother we wish we had
It's technically 2.6
@@ItsamenotMario yes my bad twin
Putting wider wheels will only serve to slow it down since it doesn't really have the power to turn them. I have an 07 with an LS2 swap and running 10'' wheels with 275 toyo's square and it handles phenomenally with them
Glad to see the Rx8 back again. And this time driven to its full potential. I own 2 of them and I have no Regrets. They are amazing cars for the Price they handle well and its a 4 door. So what Else can you ask for in a cheap sports car.
Wow.. this is literally my car.❤❤❤ man i want back so baaaaad😭😭 much love man👍👍👍👍
What a helluva way to spend a birthday ! Rx8 love !
Best birthday experience I could have asked for 😂
That is one heroic little car: not only did it survive Alex’s tender mercies (an achievement for any car!) but also Knockhill and now the Nurburgring! All while being a mildly abused old “unreliable” car…
It has surprised me every step of the way on this trip
That engine was really at its happiest in this video.. never below 7k most of the time 😄 what an experience to watch and listen!
I need to see Misha drive a proper rx8. not a stock one. One of the most underrated chassis ever
There's not much you can do to them short of a few suspension/brake tweaks and piling a ton of money into a low boost turbo setup that may or may not make the engine go pop.
@@ItsamenotMario proper suspension (and sus setup), tires and brakes make a massive difference
The price of all Mazda Rx-8 just went up after this video! 😅 amazing drivning Misha! 👏👏👏👏
So glad Misha got a run with another RX8, but my man, Misha... you HAVE to find someone (unfortunately I would love to lend you mine, but I'm in the USA) that has a proper suspension and tire setup. This thing corners like a beast on coilovers, sway bars, and wider tires. A few things to point out, there are some differences between the Series 1 and Series 2 RX8's. Amongst them is, the Series 1 transmission was not as good as the series 2, 4th gear grinding was very common. Series 2 transmission can bolt up to a Series 1, and gives you better gearing, keeping the Series 1 Diff and whatnot at least in my experience of doing the swap. I'm curious how how the coolant got during the lap. I'm sure oil temps were fine because it comes with 2 very good oil coolers from factory, it's coolant you need to be wary of... if it reaches 100C, you risk coolant seal failures.
100degC is not even hot. Wtf!
@@richardggeorge coolant seals are not the same like headgaskets on piston engines, they are much more fragile, made of rubber like material. Too many extremely high temp sessions CAN cook them, so safest thing to do is try to keep coolant temps below 100C as much as possible. The "Too hot!" radiator fan setting kicks in at 102C
Hey! Owner of an S1 RX-8 here! I was asking myself the same thing, what about coolant temps on the ring? Bcs I have mine built for going up mountain passes and still it struggles a bit even with a custom re-map, Mishimoto fans and a bigger radiator than spec.
I think the same, you need to try one with coilovers, it's a completely different car! People that went for a ride in mine told me that they had a similar experience driving a kart.
Also if the owner reads this: Mods I would put in: Install a Sohn kit, buy an oil sandwich adapter and get yourself some gauges of coolant temp, oil pressure and oil temp. With that, respecting warming ups and cooling downs and proper oil and sparkplugs changes you have a car as reliable as any other. Enjoy it!
@@luancospartan9876 dont forget a catch can on the list of mods 😭
101c is programmed into the fan curves to only then turn the fans on high (2004 model). The fans don't even turn on at all until it hits 97c. I've hit around 110c without any damage when I had a fan not working correctly and still have no damage. Of course I wouldn't recommend staying at 110c, its definitely too hot but its not gonna break as soon as you hit 100c lol.
I just watched the Hagerty video on GMA T.50 and was wondering, why are you shifting so early. Then I realised my slight bias :D
Back in 1970 in Ontario, Canada, I had the 2nd Mazda R100. There was no rev. limiter. It was just screaming at 11,000/12,000 RPM. Three engines later: well that was it.
Misha is the coolest guy on youtube I've never heard him ridicule anyone or their ride
i adore rotaries and this was such a joy to watch, to car sounded awesome, misha drover it superb and it really does seem to handle quite well. Boy those 9000RPM's are awesome :D
I always loved the rx8. Whenever someone's says it's shite, yeah it lacks the turbo but n/a isn't also bad... Great lap Misha!
Just makes me want to take my RX8 round the track, a lot slower though!!
Rx8. The car I would have bought if I could have. Love them. Not a proper sports car and not a regular saloon. A car that just did its own thing, its own way.
One broke down near my street rhe orher year. The engine was done, but the car was in such good condition the guy said he planned to put in a new one.
おお、前期モデルですね。
後期モデルのシャープな顔もいいですが、前期モデルにしかないロータリーが入った椅子がお気に入りです。
ストレスなく回りますが、ちょっと上りだとトルクが不足しているかもしれませんね。
7000 rpm is not wrong. The 192 HP Model revs up to 7500 rpm and the 231 HP model revs up to 9200
Drove FBO RX8 with weight reduction on GT7 and got sub 8min 😮😮
One of best handling car 😅
This is what cars are for- not for garaging and investing with no miles. They should be run to the edges of the engineering and enjoyed. He'll remember this lap forever! What a canny buy.
Guy never stops smiling. Misha or the car? Probably both!
Both were on top form that day 😂
Fijn dat deze RX-8 in handen van een liefhebber terecht is gekomen, mooie ronde Nordschleife.
SO long as you take care of the oiling issues, rotaries are actually crazy stout little engines!
Wonderful lap!
I haven't tried the RX-8 or the S2000, but I guess the latter would be more reliable and probably as enjoyable, if the goal is to go to 9k 😅Although the prices are not "exactly" the same...
S2000 engine alone or any type-R engine could cost as much as a whole RX-8. But honda give u less headache, more power and easier maintenance.
and it lived? as an rx7 owner i find this offensive. they LIVE at high rpms. anything less than a race track for these things is offensive
Was that yellow car at 9:20 a MR2 Spyder body kit with a built engine or something?
TOP 5 BEST SOUNDING ENGINES of ALL time! change my mind!
It was great to see the owner’s excitement.
Congratulations on 8minutes 33 seconds!
Owner of a 2007 Rx8, here.
The handling is second to none and the revs are addictive!
LOL i had an RX8 too and the 4th gear was also "crunchy" :D
Great driving it needs more power Turbo
4th gear is super common to go out, you'll tend to lose reverse as well.
Reverse is a shite to find at the best of times!
It sounds as though it could happily rev to 12000+
lightened rotors it can hit 10,000 but anything above that you're into dangerous territory if you havent put serious money into it
that owner was so much fun!
Looks like this car with better rubber (micheline 4S for example) will be perfect :)
I wish she was on Michelins 😢
literally🤓
5:30 ahh love the noise 🔥🔥
Nice car! And also nice to see a young guy not pulling out his phone to film 😎
My 2006 rx8 231 , i miss you. 😢
rev limiter not redline misha. again..... theres a big difference
Loved this video! The owner of the car was a hoot! 😂
@misha justice has been service. Thank you 😌
no blown apex seals?? must be an ev with rotary noises 😆
Brilliant cars these. Super fun even as standard!
The Rx8 chassis is really good.
YES THIS IS IT !!! This sounds way more healthy the owner knew more about the car and print it out like dragon Ball z OVER 9000!!!
Thank you Misha for this lap it makes me super proud. My dream is that I can drive my RX-8 on the Nord.
What a fun car this remains! I also have an rx8 for trackdays and an mps as a daily car what do I love this brand say! 🥰
This car sounds absolutely amazing, especially the downshift rev match🔥
Did you run on road tires if i looked correctly? If you had semi slicks i think the time would be much lower !!! I had an rx8 with the 192hp and 5 speed gearbox. Even slower than the 231 version but with a Tein Coilover and proper alignment it felt fantastic!!!
Automatic RX-8s had a redline around 7500 if I remember. That one sounds pretty solid still. Since it's an S1, get an S2 starter if it doesn't already for faster starts. THere's another post in comments for other upgrades but the ignition system is key to keep up on.
rx8 was my first car 2012. it was a punish on my Moneybag. Looks cool but shit crappy Engine
If power was around 400 hp or above Rx-8 might be fast as hell. I think chassis can handle more power but Mazda limited engine power unfortunately. My dream setup is buying Rx-8, swap K24 engine, upgrade with turbo, coilover etc. and hunt some fast cars :)
If they didn't limit the performance then you'd only get 15mpg on a long motorway run haha
I think rx8 frame is not hard enough for turbo. And it would lose its philosophy, k24 is not so light as rotary engine.
RX-8 needs no tuning IMO as MX-5, its fun to drive without anything
It's not so much that they limited engine power, they squeezed every bit of power they could out of it while still trying to keep fuel consumptions and emissions in check. It takes serious effort to make more power out of the renesis engine without going for forced induction.
Has a very stiff chassis@@FahrenheitRUS
@@joost1120 And even then you can only reliably run very low boost. This engine is honestly up to its limits as it is. Not everything has to be stupid-fast in a straight line to be fun. My Tesla does that, it's boring. When I want fun I take out the RX8 (or my 380hp Audi BAM-swapped Lotus Elise. :P)
Nice break system warning light at 5:29 😅
FOR THE HOLY DORITO EMPIRE
TAKE THE GT3
Wow so nice sounding car, just dont check gas consumption, and nice camera setup, keep it up. InitialD feelings here.
I would make it an MFGhost car 😂
a fantastic car for its years. really!
I had 2 of this mazdas and it was my dream and my nightmare when I owned 😂😂 nice to see in your hands Misha.
Perfect chassis for a little alloy block, dry sump LS
Love this kind of laps - full on enjoyment. Its always great to see an owner who trully enjoys the lap and is not shy to show their emotions. As for RX-8 amazing car - would like to own one some time in the future. Cheers!
Def hit 10k there for a sec 😂
Just need a video of a track prepped rx8 now! Wish I could ship mine 🤣
Rotary engine i actually pretty reliable if u push them and keep them warm... Look back to 1991 when a Mazda 787b that work about 9000-10500 rpm actually won 24hour Le mans...👍😎
Rotary is soooo good. Too bad Rob Dahm is busy with Pike's Peak.
Idk what you have done under the hood but they really do well if you put a set of LS coils on them and tune software. I have Bennett built ignition coils and versatune flash software, she can scream at 10,000 all day and keeps pulling. Stock header, catless midpipe and hks high power single exhaust, loudest 13b NA
One day I'll buy my dream 1st Gen RX7, then the rotary will blow up (as one usually does), I'll rebuild it into a street/time attack car, ship it to Germany and you'll drive it. Mark my works Misha, I'm coming lol.
I've heard the proper way to rebuild these is to add some sort of modded / external oil injection system so that you can properly lubricate the combustion chamber with purpose fit oil and they become more reliable.
I'm not a rotary guy, but I've seen it a few times on good rotary builds.
@@volvo09 I've never build an engine, but I love researching about rotaries, there are ways to build them relatively reliable XD
i hate that Mazda make this without Turbo. i have rx8 since 8 years but i have to admit it's slow. İf you don't mind fuel consumption it could be good daily tho. i have never had problems. Just maintenance. But i am planned to sell mine. Maybe will buy rx7 turbo.
I must say, and as far I got "ear", this young lad has great radio voice
Ever since I put that mishimoto radiator , fans plus and thermostat and the silicone hoses and full titanium exhaust car is so well balanced and fun to drive mind y’all my Audi s4 b5 got 500hp + and would randomly oversteer on a corner at 55 Lmfaoo
Good video
Good comment!
Ex owner of one. Miss him
Love vids like this, that dont show rich boys and thier toys.
Simply glorious!
I know the RX8 are terribly unreliable but GOD DAMN THAT ENGINE SOUND is awesome!
There was ontging wrong with the 7500 rpm car. You just have 2 versions of an rx8, one Goes to 7500rpm 192hp and the HP version had 231hp and revs till 9500 rpm
Had a red one, bring back memories, thanks for the awesome ride Misha