The Truth About Dawn: Game of Thrones' Most Mysterious Sword
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- Опубликовано: 15 май 2024
- What makes Arthur Daynes sword Dawn, so special? And why is it the difference maker between him and Barristan Selmy in a fight? Oh, can this thing kill white walkers? All your questions about Dawn Answered.
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contents:
00:00 Intro
01:15 Facts about Dawn
05:05 Can Dawn kill White Walkers / Wights?
07:11 Pure Rubbish statements about Dawn
11:20 Why is Dawn the Decider between Arthur Dayne vs Barristan Selmy?
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Given how George treats prophecy, I doubt Lightbringer is a literal sword. It’s too Aragorn, to have the forgotten heir wield a re-forged magic sword. For that matter, who is Azor Ahai will likely have multiple correct answers.
Myths are typically meant to grant personification to abstract concepts or explain phenomenon. An anthropology-link maester would tell you the real meaning of the Azor Ahai myth is the cost of necessary sacrifices. The hero slowly realized that to save the world he needed to give up what mattered personally to him most.
A sword breaking in water = conventional warfare
A sword breaking in a lion = brave feat or a cutthroat move
A sword breaking in his wife = A great sacrifice
I think it’s the Night’s Watch in abstract form.
Quenching in water = giving up land & titles.
Quenching in a lion heart = giving up crowns & glory.
Quenching in Nissa Nissa’s heart = giving up wife & family & love.
Honest to God I'd pick Dawn over any Valyrian steel sword(except for blackfyre) it looks cool as hell.
Dark sister looks a little cooler to me
Prefer dark sister. Looks sleek as fuck. Plus there were way more great wielders of dark sister.
Unless your trained with 2handed greatswords you beter of with longclaw. Bastaard swords are best swords for anyone that doenst have any exprience use a sword.
@@FelzorfulDawn is a "Hand and a Half" Sword. Dunno where they got "Greatsword" from, but it's clearly a Hand and a Half" like Long claw when shown.
@@justinlast2lastharder749 in the books i believe its a 2 handed greatsword. Wich in my opionen requires far more training to use wel then other types of swords.
Considering the drown gods, their inspiration from Lovecraft and that Dawn was forged from stars and a thousand years old, I think that it would be more related to that subplot
It’s shiny.
See, everyone is so busy admiring how pretty and shiny and how cool it is that they don’t notice it being thrusted through all of their vital organs. It might also have mind-controlling aspects, though whether these be magical or a side effect of how pretty it is will remain up to the reader to decide.
One other advantage of the lighter weapon is endurance. Writing this at the gym but trust me a different in weight of just 1 pound held at sword length is huge for stamina and energy drain.
At the level of Barristan and Arthur if the fight is not over in seconds it will be a loooooong one. The fact that with Dawn Arthur will tire out more slowly will be a huge edge.
I have sparred guys way better than me and one just because I was much fresher than them. The gas tank is a huge factor.
Its why Connor Mcgregor despite having world class skill on his feet can't beat someone like Khabib, he tires to quickly.
I'd have to share your experience, though back in my MMA days I was the one doing the gassing out to opponents that didn't have my grappling or striking skills but would just kite me round until I was knackered 😂
Never had it happen when I did HEMA and Kenjustu just because real sword fights at competition level are generally over quick in two or three moves, but in armour it would be a different story and endurance would absolutely be a factor!
Thanks for watching as always Neo, your insights are always an interesting read! Liam
Dawn might be "light" but its still a two handed great sword. Even a light version of a great sword has to be brutal to take into battle.
@@williamhermann6635might be 4.5lbs instead of close to 6lbs. I have a Prussian two hander that weighs 8lbs and is a complete pig to swing. It’s clearly a bodyguard or shock attack sword because I have a nearly as long falcion that weighs 4.5lbs and is butter knife thin. Obviously one sword is for armored or massed opponents and the other is only useful against unarmored opponents. In either case I’d rather have a halberd or wing spear except swords are so much easier to carry, (even nearly six foot ones).
@@john-paulsilke893 Im no sword expert, but even 4.5 pounds seems heavy, especially when you consider weilding a great sword means no shield. That means you need as much speed and evasiveness as possible. Gotta be an absolute unit to war with such a weapon.
@@williamhermann6635 5lbs is the weight of probably a smaller greatsword. So let's say Dawn could about 4lbs in weight, maybe 5lbs. But he will have a significant reach advantage over the normal arming sword.
But to clarify my thoughts above, the weight benefit of Dawn will mean he is far less tired than he would be using a normal greatsword. That will mean he can go longer and harder than he otherwise would be able to, which is going to give him a significant edge in the fight. It is in effect removing one of the major disadvantages of using a great sword, or at least noticeably diminishing it.
Imagine being Ned stark and almost getting killed by Dayne, but still returning dawn to house dayne. Total stand up guy. Dude could’ve kept it at winterfell or sold it to someone for a ton of gold no doubt.
Thats good old Ned for you, honourable to a god dam fault. If it had been me that sword would have been straight on my wall 😂
Thanks for watching Shadow! Liam
He probably felt shame at being branded as such a swordsman for killing Dayne when it’s so heavily implied that he was assisted by some sort of third party. (Howland Reed) most likely
Dont reckon Ned needs the gold to such an extent that he would sacrifice his honor.
No matter the story, the concept of special swords (magical or otherwise) is just completely seared into our collective culture 😊
I think that's said for swords as a whole Jeremy. We see them as this awesome honourable weapon. In reality they were nothing but a backup weapon (basically the equivalent of a pistol) if you drew your sword you were generally in a pretty bad situation, definitely not tearing up the battlefield.
In civilian life they were also less a weapon of honor and more of a status symbol. An axe, bow and spear were all considered tools (spear and bow for hunting, axe for woodfelling) as well as weapons, but a sword is designed solely to kill people, so if you had a sword it was like saying "look how important i am I have the right to kill people" 🤣
Thanks for watching as always Jeremy! We've got Warlord, get yourself over to our discord and we'll have both our ride or die OGs 😂 Liam
My theory and personal Headcanon for Dawn’s Magical Abilities is that the current Sword Of The Morning when wielding Dawn can harness the power and skills of all the Swords Of The Morning that came before them, kind of like the Ackerman Bloodline in Attack On Titan.
Also, Dawn being practically unbreakable probably also helps, because Dayne can afford to be a bit more reckless with it in fights.
Actually please do a video on Roberts hammer that would be amazing likr a pros and cons of using it why he wpuld use it, and why others in westeros dont use war hammers
I will try to persuade Thom Hayden, but he's made me sign an contract stating I can't do a video about Robert for at least 3 months because he's sick of the guy 😂 Thanks for watching! Liam
Warhammers were made to fight Armored Opponents. Westeros has a lot of them. That's why he used it. Why didn't others? Because not many had the Size and Stamina of Prime Robert. Swinging a Hammer is a lot harder to keep up than a Sword or Axe.
@@TheFandomeClips meet halfway, do Gendrys warhammer 😂
Let's face it. It's just the coolest name.
@1:52 A bastard sword or hand-and-a-halfer are swords which fall between the longsword or broadsword and the two-handed greatsword in size.
The chart in the video is incorrect.
Thoms not a HEMA guy Cognosis my friend and there's a lot of bad charts out there, I think he may have just grabbed what was most visually appealing bless him 😂
@@TheFandomeClips dude, just come out and admit it. There IS NO Thom! Y'all are both the same guy, and you just pretend Thom is real so you have someone else to blame for any mistakes. ;)
I wonder if when George talks about Barristan if he’s thinking about Barristan during the rebellion. Cause this would’ve been at Arthur’s peak and just before he died. We also head Barristan reflect on this time period a good amount and it’s one of the most impactful time periods in the story. If he is thinking during the rebellion then that would mean he’s not even taking prime Barristan into account. It’s a little harder to choose his prime because he was always great and experience always helps in a fight. Anyways another great video and I loved it!
Its a good point, I think old man Barristan is just that badass mate 😂 young or old he's legendary enough to cross swords with Dayne but I would think he means younger Barristan, especially with Daynes reputation! Thanks for watching as always matey! Liam
@@TheFandomeClips Agreed during the rebellion or the war of the mine penny kings or anytime in between, I think he’s at least giving Dayne a serious run for his money, if Barristan doesn’t come out on top.
I think Jorah Mormonts description of Valyrian Steel in histories and lore of Game of Thrones makes people think it cuts through armor like butter because Jorah literally says so. Great Video. (Dayne still better than prime Robert and Selmy imo)
Well if Jorah said so it must be true 😂 i think Jaime also says something about it cutting plate like cloth or something. But its a case of what we're shown over what we're told for me personally mate.
Ooooo Arthur vs Prime Bartistan, I honestly don't think anyone can hold a candle to prime Barristan on the badass front, the dude is a goddam menace as a grandpa let alone with youth on his side 😂 but yeah Dayne and Barristan are about as close as it gets when it comes to whose the greatest with a sword!
Thanks for watching as always mate!Liam
I personaly think that Dawn is the original lightbringer, which along with house Dayne originates from the great empire of the Dawn
Of all the swords in ASOIAF you would assume that if Lightbringer did exist it would be accounted for because of its significance. Dawn is definitely the number 1 contender of all the swords we've seen! Thanks for watching as always debater! Liam
I am 100% confident that Dawn is capable of killing White Walkers. Also the Sword of the Morning title goes to the best warrior of the Daynes but also the most honorable one. (Which is why Darkstar isn’t the Sword of the Morning) and to go on with the theory of Jon being Ned and Ashara’s son. Jon will be given Dawn by Ned Dayne at some point during the Long Night. After all Jon has 2x as many references to Dawn than anyone else, and has dreams of doing something heroic and having Ned give him Ice. What a weird thing that the Daynes have a kid named Ned. Who is the future Lord of Starfall. Who might give his cousin the Greatsword called Dawn to help bring back the Dawn after the second long night?
How many bad ass swords does Jon need? 😂😂
@@TheFandomeClips Longclaw is just the training tool. He'll give it to someone else.
Yes! Finally someone agrees lol this is by far my favorite theory
@@ethanhagerman3064 Have you watched the Order of the Greenhand? Their videos are where I saw this theory and their videos got me to really believe it.
@crazyscotsman9327 oh yeah I love order of the green hand, it's just nice finding other people that believe it
Okay but the question has to be asked, if you give them each a lightsaber who wins?
This is a joke by the way because it's essentially the same answer as what if you give Barristan a valyrian steel blade and the proper time to get used to it, only with arguably cooler weapons.
Someone had to ask Deadpool 😂 may as well have been you! And yeah I think you've answered the question yourself 😂 thanks for watching as always! Liam
Great video as always keep up the good work
Thanks Ser Bryan! - Thom
Thanks Connor always good to see you in the comments! Liam
Hey can you make a video on oberyn martell vs Robert baratheon
We've got something in the works that addresses that match up Moonlight! Thanks for watching! Liam
@@TheFandomeClips ok but can we expect a video on this later some days
Won't lie that whenever I see a sword get thrusted through plate it always bugs me so your rant about the lightsaber quality that swords get was nice to hear I'm not the only one, an interesting topic for a short video I'm sure you'll find plenty of other items to explain, could tell the secret to lighting a glass candle or where all the bodies go once they are dropped from the moon door?
I'm sure we'll find other things to nit pick Kyle my good man and yeah as someone whose done HEMA and fought in armor it bugs the living crap out of me lol 😆 thanks for watching as always mate! Liam
A paramount legendary weapon.
Ser Arthur Dayne, Imagine keeping a dying girl from her brother and thinking yourself a knight at all.
They should have made it a two hander and had him cut clean through someone's shield or split a helm in half with it, or something like that. Even if they didn't say anything else about it, it would have been a cool easter egg for those who read the books. It actually would have been a good weapon to use in the fight against Ned and the others. Two-handers were usually battlefield weapons, which would be good to have when trying to keep your distance from multiple opponents. The struggle to get into range would have also been a good excuse to throw honor out the window and stab him in the back.
There's nothing in the books about Dawn having lightsaber properties of slicing through armor or swords or shields. This seems to be a myth propergated by fans, there's actually very little known about Dawn and what it can do.
I agree though the show should have shown it as the two handed greatsword its supposed to be and should have shown some of its magical nature, even if just by the way it shines, very disappointing how it's shown in the show.
Thanks for watching Angryginger, love the name BTW 😂 Liam
Lightbringer? Really, George? As an aspiring author, I can think of a dozen words to follow 'light' in that name that would be fantastically cool sword names that do not immediately make me think "Stormbringer?" LightBlade. Lightbolter, Lightcaster. Hell, even Brightstorm would make me think of Elric's sword less.
I think the simplicity of the name helps feed into the folk taley nature of the legend. It makes me believe the events could have actually happened rather than been a fabrication of a skilled word smith. I honestly think the name has a good chunk of nuance to it.
I recently got picked up by a publisher, so from one aspiring author to another I wish you luck! And don't give up if the first place rejects you, persistence is as much a part of the process as much as the writing bit.
Thanks for watching! Liam
Hey Liam 1st of: Great video as always, good to see you grow this fast during the past weeks.
One question: I wount to start a GoT and Star Wars YT channel and just wanted to ask how you manage to monetize? Is muting the scenes you show in yopur videos doing the Job or are there some other aspects?
Thanks Rob! So there's an awful lot to it, first and foremost the big one is making sure your following fair usage guidelines (this won't always save your video but its a good start) you can't just B Roll a scene while you talk, you've got to make sure the content is considered transformative, but there's a heap more to it, Thom manages footage and that stuff so if you'd like to know more I'd advise jumping onto our discord server and me and Thom can give you some advice! Thanks for watching! Liam
@@TheFandomeClips So I heard about that as well, that you need to add new value, not showing a clip more than a few seconds etc., But before Is start I would just want to be sure on how to exactly needing to edit my videos.
So when my new PC arrives, I would surely take the advise and hop onto the dc! Thank you :)
@@robslebowski6776 look forward to seeing you in the server Rob! Lim
Who did Ser Arthur Dayne defeat? The Smiling Knight is an outlaw robber knight. Arthur Dayne won a few tournaments but no great feats in battle.
He's known primarily for defeating the Smiling Knight. Smiley was one of the deadliest swordsman in Westeros if reputation was to be believed. Hes one of those characters like Jaime where its just generally accepted he was as deadly as people say. Thanks for watching Darkking! Liam
counterpoint: the reason there's no 'fixed' point of balance for a sword, is that everyone has a different preference. Aligned with one's strength, fighing style, etc...
Barristan might have had his sword replaced a couple of times - but he's rich & important enough to have a sword made according to his specific specs. Arming sword or longsword, Grip length, pommel, crossguard shape, point of balance, total weight, length ... Barristan would have a sword perfect for him.
Dawn on the other hand ... might be the penultimate sword, chances are very low it just happen to be the perfect sword for Arthur. Simple example, Imagine Arthur prefers cutting, but Dawns point of balance is more thurst-centric. Or Athur likes 'zucken' (a HEMA technique,re after a blocked slash, you pull back the sword, and stab your opponent) but Dawn is too long for that.
Obviously it might also be the other way around (Dawn in fact being a very good sword for Arthur's prefered style) - but the in the wrong hands, even Dawn would be sub-par compared to a custom sword.
Honestly, it goes Blackfyre, Dawn, snd Oathkeeper, the rest can slag off! This video, as always amazing!
What no room for Longclaw? 😂 Thanks Akodo! And thanks for watching! Liam
@@TheFandomeClips nope. I believe it to be more of a plot coupon for Jon Snow, instead of a legit sword held by the Bears for as long as it was. It should have been Dark Sister and him crossing paths with Bloodraven somehow.
That’s probably why Winds is taking so long, GRRM keeps going back through possible threads to make sure no fan theories end up in the novel 😂
You joke, but I honestly think that's playing a part in it mate 😂 thanks for watching as always Trey! Liam
I never understood why any King wouldnt want to put Valaryian Steel into Barristan's hands.
Make sure he's not invincible... never know when you might need to take him down... :p - Thom
The existence of Oathkeeper and Widows Wail shows that Valerian steel definitely CAN be melted down...
We never said it couldn't be 😂 It takes magic to do so though, its stated in the books and by GRRM himself. You can't just heat it up until it liquidifies and once its quenched and tempered it seems to be nigh on unbreakable from what we've seen
Thanks for watching Ashley! Liam
Maybe not melted? Reworked in some way.
Imagine if their is a character in the next book who tells the story of how Arthur with Dawn fought Barristan while using a borrowed valyrian sword if not his own family sword that his cousin or who ever let him use.
It would be neat. I'm hoping we get to see Dawn do something cool in the next book............... if we ever get it.
Thanks for watching James! Liam
@@TheFandomeClips for characters with titles like the bold or the sword of the morning, a single story of bandits doesn't feel enough.
Even a tale by Jamie recounting being a squire seeing them train as Kings guards would be good.
I've only finished book 1 but I have heard their is a dark star character who is Arthur's edgelord cousin and might get or steal the sword. But their is a NED DAYNE named after ned stark but he's 15 but seeing a Ned with Dawn fighting in the North would be super cool.
@@TheFandomeClips your videos pretty entertaining and you do a good amount of research for your game of thrones videos. Have you thought of doing a best defendable castle/kingdom in the war of the 5 Kings? They would have to defend not only their enemies of that war but the Daenerys and her dragons, plus the night king
Got the bronze!
The misconception that Valyrian steel and Dawn can cut through swords and plate armor comes from the Histories and Lore short on Valyrian steel where it's said that it can cut through plate armor like cloth.
Still, this is clearly an exagerration as in the books this has never been shown.
I think that statement is definitely hyperbole , ethier they can do this and everyone whose ever owned a Valerian steel sword has never duelled past the first swing, or they can't and people are attributing the odd fluke (that probably would have happened with a regular sword) as a consistent property.
Thanks for watching as always Scaw! Liam
9:57 Anything regular steel can do, Valyian steel does it better. Its not just stronger that other materials, its perfectly strong. It doesn't even dull when stuck against another VS blade, its otherworldly. Swords made of regular materials suffer damage during use against each other. What do you think would happen when a normal steel sword comes up against something that effectively infinitely hard/tough with 0 brittleness, ductility or malleability. Whether or not a human has the strength to make full use of these properties is another question entirely.
Yeah thats kind of the point of the video, harder, lighter and sharper but not a lightsaber. Vsteel doing something better doesn't diminish that a regular sword is also capable of the same feats that people think are unique to Vsteel and Dawn. Your point about strength is extremely valid though! In theory Vsteel and Dawn could slice into plate but noone with MAAAAAYBBBE the exception of Gregor Clegaine wielding ice and giving it everything he had would have the physical strength to actually do it. Thanks for watching! Liam
It would be funny if lightbringer rather than being all the ridiculous things like people, dragons and stuff just turned out to be a sword that was dawn and in this case the simplest answer was the correct one, it is something I think George will do just for a laugh
Gotta do a which fighters can defeat a dragon
That would be a very very very short video Jack 😂
We made it
Welcome back 😂 From the poll to the video!
Meh I noticed the word swordsman and not the term knight although some get them confused they are two separate things... therefore I won't bring up Amen the dragon knight or Damon who was the warrior reborn with dark sister in hand
We did not confuse the two, Jaime, Dayne and Barristan are considered the 3 best swordsman of their era, by the fans and GRRM himself. Jaime is even speculated to be the best of all time depending on what mood GRRM is in 😂 Daemon and Ameon are probably up there with them but I'd wager they are all comparable. Contrary to what people think, skill has a ceiling and the best of one era is likely to be comparable with the best of another.
Thanks for watching! Liam
Okay, i feel i got dunk on a lot after this comment on valyrian steel / Dawn cutting trough armour XD I didn't mean to imply about lightsabers properties, i genuinely thought they could do that.
To my defense, i only thought that because of this video : ruclips.net/video/hde8ml4wZ-M/видео.html
You have Jorah's VA (a character that owned a valiryan steel sword) talking about it and honestly it can be misleading. I do understand your point tho, and i agree with it though i would still be inclined to think those swords would have an easier time passing trough such defenses. Again, you can argue a good sword can also do it, and VS / Dawn just make it a more easier with their "unbreakable / always sharp" factor...
Haha don't worry matey, it wasn't our intention to dunk on anyone :) one of our channel policies is never to jump on people who write civil comments that add to the conversation. The video idea came about because Thom wanted to know what made Dawn so special and what it could actually do and I ended up trawling through forums and source materials and I found loads of people making the same claim but with nothing but those quotes and feats to base it on. If I did have to take a sword against armor I would take Dawn or Vsteel over a regular sword, if only for the fact I can swing away with chipping or dulling the blade! Thanks for watching! Liam
Bit of a nod to Anglaecal in the Silmarillion that became Gauthang sword of Turin .....apologies for the spelling lol
What? Not at all. Dawn shone with light and represented noble valour. Gurthang was treacherous and thirsty for its owner's blood. Opposite magic swords
I give Dane the edge over selmy cuz selmy is well past his prime and dane seems to be still in his prime when he was stabbed in the back
Dawn is actually Ashara Dayne.
It is known.
Yea barricks sword was definitely not as strong as an average sword the way it lights up leads me to believe it’s made out of flint switch is inherently weaker than hardened steel
Only that you do not need spells or dragonfire to melt set Valyrian steel.
Lannisters did it, remember. In the book, not in that make belief TV show.
Oh.
Also.
Where is it stated that obsidian is used to make Valyrian steel?
IMO Valyrian steel is forged with Dragonfire. Hence magical and deadly against creatures of ice.
Erm...........you do need spells to work with Valerian steel in the books? Tywin hires a master blacksmith who knows the spells, not just any old blacksmith. GRRM has even said himself that magic is involved in the forging and reworking of Valerian Steel 😂
Noone stated Obsidian is definitely involved in the video, it is just highly suspected to be by most fans because the blades take on a darkened color in comparison to normal steel and despite his best efforts in the book, the black Smith Tobho Mott who can rework the metal couldn't get it to take on any other colour (He tried to tint the blades red for house Lannister) Obsidian is also associated heavily with magic in ASOIAF and since we know for a fact it kills WWs it just makes logical sense for a lot of fans that Obsidian is likely to be involved in the process.
Your theory is as good as anyone else because right now noone has a solid answer on Vsteel or Dawn 😂
@@TheFandomeClips , fair.
Yes, now that you mention Tywin did mention few or three(?) who could still work Valerian steel.
But I am sure that video said Dragonfire to melt once it is set?
[edit.] I stand corrected. Got it wrong.
Also, obsidian part was on the ” speculative ” part but was heavily implied.
But yes, english is my 3rd language so I can always fall back on to that 😀.
[edit.] Not going to check. I believe you ✌️
I love these speculations. It infuriates me that we are kept guessing.
Just finnish the books GRRM or let somebody else to do it for you!
Then have somebody to collect an appendix of FAQ and give real answers to them 👍
@jakemaattanen aha , well thanks for engaging with us Jake! Hope you enjoyed it.
I had to go read up how the blacksmith in Kings Landing had reworked the metal when it was stated dragon fire wouldn't melt them.
Basically as Liam said - Tobho Mott is the only person within Kings Landing of REFORGING Valyrian steel, that's because he learned his trade in Qohor, where they can REFORGE Valyrian Steel but the secret of CREATING Valyrian Steel was lost in the Doom of Valyria.
The reforging requires some "spells" but they're very ambiguous what that means ( is it magic? or just a technological secret, it seems like its most likely the former potentially), that is what possibly protects it against Dragon Fire and Fire in general because Blackfyre was burned on a funeral Prior with Aegon 1st and it was the only thing that remained. ( Assuming Balerion was what started the funeral Pyre, like we see in House of the Dragon with Aemma)
Qohor is also known as the City of Sorcerers, so helps lend credit to it being magic spells used to manipulate the metal to be reforged. I think one guy believes blood magic is involved. Otherwise it seems only a few Qohor blacksmiths know how to reforge the steel and Tywin was just super lucky that one of them was in Kings Landing at the time to help reforge Ice.
-Thom
So how do Valyrian steel and Dawn get an edge in the first place?
Their lighter and faster to move around, thats about it. Never losing their edge is also handy since you can swing at things and not have to worry about notching or blunting your sword up. Thanks for watching Carl!Liam
It's a damn shame Valyrian steel isn't real. It'd make for some fucking incredible machine tools. Indestructible blades are wasted on paltry human actuators.
Haha so true, id imagine it would be great for spacecraft too
If you don’t think dawn and house Dayne is significant to the end game you clearly didn’t read the books
Don't think we said anything of the sort in the video Jack my friend. We looked at what's known about the sword as fact, what you can feasibly speculate about the capabilities of the sword and what's definitely made up fan nonsense. We covered the case for its potentially been the first lightbringer and said the swords mystery is intriguing, but we have nothing major to go on yet as to the part it will play in the story. Alot of the fantastical things you hear about Dawn is mostly fan made myths that have been perpetuated by other fans.
Not at any point do we down play the fact that Dawn is special and one of a kind or say that house Dayne is irrelevant. We simply made our case on the information thats available, which is from the books and official sources too I might add, seeing as how the sword is never addressed in the show apart from its brief cameo at TOJ.
Dawn and house Dayne has got a big part to play im sure, but the point of this video is that as of its release, there is no solid answer as to what that part is.
Thanks for watching! Liam
Dawn is lightbringer? So how does Stannis get it?
Stannis has a different Lightbringer to the orginal, its something created by Mels magic. Its speculated the original light bringer might not even have been a sword at all, but if it is, Dawn is a contender for it.
Thanks for watching! Liam
Stannis’ sword isn’t actually lightbringer? Just a sword that they performed a ritual on and called it as such. - Thom
This sword is lightbringer
I love the whole video and the theory. But I can’t get over that you sound like a masculine Tia Kofi. I will see myself out
Had to Google who that is to try and rebutt it............. i can't rebutt it 😂
I mean it with love I swear 🤣😭
Dark Star > Arthur Dayne
Joffery > Arthur Dayne!
@@TheFandomeClips true!!!
Special swords mean nothing.
Unless they cut other swords instantly..
I'm sick of th3se videos about valaryian steel and shit.
Jamie is dangerous with a normal sword
I think the same can be said for Arthur and Brienne in all honesty 😂
@TheFandomeClips maybe but unless valaryian steel or Dawn can legit cut through other swords and armour like paper. It's just a sword. Syrio beat up guards using a stick. It's the swordsmen. Not the sword. Case closed daddy
Looks cool simple as