Pastor Robert Morris Accused of Molesting a 12-Year-Old Girl as He Admits to "Moral Failure"
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- Pastor Robert Morris Accused of Touching a 12-Year-Old Girl as He Admits to "Moral Failure"
In this video, we discuss the allegations against Pastor Robert Morris of Gateway Church. We explore the question of whether a pastor who commits a sexual sin can be reinstated and discusses the need for accountability, discipleship, and self-control in leadership positions. We also need to check our hearts, serve humbly, and prioritize Bible reading and prayer.
Pastor Robert Morris, Gateway Church, allegations, sexual abuse, moral failure, forgiveness, restoration, accountability, discipleship, self-control, leadership, Bible reading, prayer
00:00 A Retelling of Robert's Accusations
10:09 Pastoral Reinstating and My Opinion on the Accusations
24:43 Checking Your Heart and Prioritizing Bible Reading and Prayer
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What are your thoughts on the allegations? If true, do you believe Robert should have been reinstated as a Pastor?
I truly enjoy your videos. You are so informative and I agree with most everything you say. Keep up the great work Brittany 👍🏻 👏
Nope. The downplay is excessive with no accountability and he did this while he was a husband where he had his one son. He left for two years from ministry but it seems like he just let it die down and then just returned to the pulpit. Also like Carl lentz is now doing damage control and you don't hear him talk about the Gospel of God at all but self evaluation and dealing with the emotional toll but No God only the only obvious God he has created in his head
If this is all true, he should not have been back in the altar. He committed a crime with a minor. If they run a background check on you to work with children at the church, why in the world would he think it's ok to go back on the altar. Forgiveness is one thing, and taking responsibility for your sin is another thing. The Bible is clear what it takes to carry that title. There are other areas in the church that he can serve in. People should feel protected at church.
Thanks for this video. These few words I share now are based entirely on the standards for the people of God in His Kingdom predicated on God's word, and NOT on judicial authority or the legal code. Firstly, yes, a man can fall into sin and then become a pastor. There are stipulations for being a pastor, and those have to be met, but the stipulations do not take into account sins that were committed prior and are now under the blood and repented of. Every pastor (and every child of God) has skeletons in their closet from the past before they started their church or were called - some far worse than others. Secondly, and this is going to be hard for some people to hear, but the Bible is clear that an accusation against an elder is not to be taken up unless confirmed by two or three witnesses. Now this is a hard one to swallow (just as Jesus saying that the ONLY valid reason for divorce in His Kingdom is sexual immorality and not other things such as 'emotional abuse' etc.) but it's important that we remember that the Holy Spirit had a reason for inspiring such standards and stipulations. Naturally, when it comes to certain "moral failures" or crimes, there are not two or three witnesses present. But this is where we have to decide if we are going to do things God's way or the world's way. This is where the metal meets the meat as to what Kingdom we truly belong to. When someone sins openly they are to be confronted openly (such as Paul confronting Peter, Samuel confronting Saul publicly, etc.) but when the sin is private it is not to be aired before others to whom it does not concern - you and me!
As you wisely point out in this video regarding women pastors, one disobedience does not justify another. Because these alleged events involved a minor, if the people of God elect to deal with it internally, then it is between the perpetrator and the minor's parents. However, once having been dealt with, the minor now grown up, does not have the right (according to God's word) to expose the dirty works of Satan before the world since this would be in disobedience regarding the rules of not taking up an accusation against an elder except for multiple witnesses. The only one who benefits from these types of scandals is Satan and his side. I said the same thing regarding Ravi Zacharias when his scandal broke out. These women were all adults and professed Christians, and yet they slandered a man and his legacy publicly when the events that transpired happened between adults in private. This is blatant disobedience to God's word. Something the Christian community needs to remember is that the works of the flesh don't cancel out the anointing of God in the New Covenant. All are sinners, and all fall short, but if we dump the baby out with the bath water in these types of scandals then it's clear who is benefiting from the scandal, and that's Satan. And doing works that benefit a certain side is SERVING that side. As we know from the New Testament, a man's anointing and power does not come from works of righteousness or "keeping the law" (or falling short of it), but from the hearing of faith and the power of Grace and mercy undeserved. That's sort of the whole point. Christians need to start taking Galatians and a number of other New Testament teachers and standards relating to interpersonal issues far more seriously when these scandals arise because disobedience to God's word on these points is ONLY in service to the evil one, as all disobedience actually is.
@@mikedavid3087 So, if a man rapes a woman that is okay for him to be a Pastor because no one witnessed the action?! Or say murders someone with no witness?! That is okay?! If a Pastor, Evangelists rapes and molest a minor in private, that is okay?! And lies about it after the fact!? In this country that is a crime that puts people in prison.
Hello, I have been going to GATEWAY since 2009 and I feel he should step down permanently!! Shame
Just too much bad stigma associated with molesting children and abusing women
Agreed. I've been there at a conference even though it was a waste of time. Because it's not about the Gospel in the Bible but the Prosperity Gospel that Robert Morris has used to grow the church especially if he has zero accountability to stay withing the parameters of the word
I’ve watched him for years! This was a crime. Stepping down isn’t enough. Makes me feel sick to my stomach, so nauseated
Prayers to Pastor Robert Debbie and Family Hold strong in Your Faith
For love God, read and learn the truth of the word of God ! Robert Morris repent of your sin. Sad leadership!!!!
This was not a sexual sin , by today's standard its considered a criminal violation against a minor. .
It would be both.
He should be arrested. He admitted to this it is not just an accusation. He should never be near children
We must pray for justice in the situation.
@@BravelyDaily Justice is him facing charges for his crimes it is not excusing them. This man has made millions of dollars by using the name of Jesus. It is really shameful and he needs to be held accountable.
We should be followers of any man. We are followers of Jesus only. Yes we need to be discipled by a Pastor, but we need to read our own bibles for our selves.
That is correct!
True statement about where was the police in this. This sounds more like money and protection for elite.
Mr Morris was a Pastor at 21 !!!! Too young !
A Pastor must be beyond reproach.
He just has to step down if all the allegations are true.
His Board of Elders have to step up to the plate and act in terms of the proper scriptural processes when a Pastor fails.
Thank you, Brittany, for being a godly and wise woman. Your discernment in this matter is outstanding.
I agree!👍
thank you so much for your encouragement. I owe everything to God. I aim to honor Him as much as I can through grace and truth.
Thank you and God bless you!
Saying that he had the fathers blessing ,to continue in the ministry, shows you how sick he is the father is on record as saying he never gave his blessing and that robert is lucky he didn't kill him
Wasn't Shady Grove legally required to report sexual assault to the police?
Makes no difference if a man is an uppity up pastor or a lower than low janitor. Human temptation is all the same. Self-discipline can be challenged at any time. We each have our battles within to conquer.
He should’ve gone to prison and he could’ve started a prison ministry but he should not have ever been in a pulpit. And the elders and James Robison should be not allowed to teach or be an elder either. If they knew she was 12 when this happened. All of them should have called the police immediately.
Completely true!
Please add this to the Title
For Four Years
Morris abused her for 4 years
This is not a matter of opinion or what we think-our authority is God’s word. Now to air on the side of grace in this situation I will preface this with we do not know all the details. The biggest one being where the police and why were they not involved. We can look at this case and say “where is the justice for this child”-if this is true. As a parent it is hard to believe this ladies family would not get the authorities involved. Why would you be ok w only reporting to the church and allow the church to discipline this man? Lots of questions that need answering.
But back to the question you ask-should he step down. Yes. I believe Gods word is clear in both Titus and 2 Timothy that any church elder should be blameless faithful to his wife, one who loves what is good, who is self-controlled, upright, holy and disciplined. Those are high standards indeed-but not all are called to preach for a reason.
I saw a persons comments concerning kind David being reinstated; that Comparison is not equal to this scenario. David was not a pastor or an elder in a church. He was a king. I see comments In regards to forgiveness and yes we should be forgiving just as Christ has forgiven us. But let us not forget that God is equally as Just as he is Loving. There is forgiveness on the opposite side of repentance. We are indeed a forgiven people but we are not free of the consequences of our sin. We can look to many people in the Bible for that example. Moses, David, Salomon, Samson, Saul, etc.
Let us pray that God continue to reveal truth in this situation. And for all who are involved. Let us ladies keep our eyes on Gods word and remember He has left us the great counselor to help guide us when we see this sort of things arise. Remembering that God does not need any one man to build His Church. And let us Hold fast remembering that Christ is coming soon to collect His bride and the gates of hell will not prevail!
Maranatha
Oh I absolutely love your comment! There is both grace and truth in your words! Our God is a God of love, forgiveness be justice. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you, you said/wrote this very well. 🙌🏼
Your question is hard to answer. Not knowing all the true facts it gets gray. But, I believe Robert Morris should step down because of what this does to the body of Christ
The true facts - by both sides - is he sexual abused a child
1) The logic of human justice is, in the extreme case, to remove the criminal so that he stops doing harm to society.
2) Forgiveness does not exonerate.
3) Stop calling a crime a sin.
It’s as if 2024 is the year of exposure in the church and in positions of leadership. I do believe the pastors and or leaders who have been caught in sin to do as David did. David knew he couldn’t build the temple because he had blood on his hands. Idk why these days pastors or leaders don’t see that example. It’s as if they want to continue to be seen. There are things that they can not longer take part of in ministry but doesn’t mean that they’re not redeemable and or healed back into the body.
I used to lead worship and led sermons in children’s ministries and when I felt/knew I was in a spiritual tormenting place in my personal life and in my marriage I decided to step down from doing any leading in both positions because I just knew it wasn’t ok for me to preach out of a wound that was festering some bitterness. I had let people over me know and some didn’t understand it and wanted to keep putting me on stage and I unfortunately backed off even church services because some people wouldn’t respect my boundary in that season. I say all this to say, sometimes it’s either a we don’t wanna step down when we’re in sin or in a place of a lot of hurt or sometimes others don’t want that for us it’s as if they want to save face because of what will others say. Pride and fear of man.
But yeah I believe Robert needs to be fully honest. Not sure why but honesty and transparency is so hard in the church. Blessed are the pure (transparent) for they will see God. All throughout the psalms we see why God said David was a man after His heart, it was because David didn’t pretty his prayers and cries and he was raw and honest. We think about what or how to pray or what to say to God as if He can’t take our darkest thoughts. We forfeit seeing Him when we do that, conceal. We can’t heal when we don’t deal. Anyway I’m ranting.
Robert, along with Mike Bickle & misty edwards, all need to really come clean and step down. Robert isn’t fully honest based on how he described the little girl to us as a young woman. She was not a woman, not near. She was a girl.
This is why I’m not fully sure he is being honest with us and God. So he needs to step down and people over him in the body and us need to pray for his soul not for his comeback as a pastor. His souls is at stake here not his position on a platform.
If these allegations are indeed true - Robert Morris is not the victim he is the perpetrator! He committed a terrible Crime against a 12 yr old little girl! Others that have committed these same type crimes against children have faced criminal charges and imprisonment! And have had to have their names listed in a national database for known predators. This is first and foremost a criminal issue not just a church issue. The LORD JESUS does not just ‘brush off’ these crimes against children, even if it happens many years ago!! In Matthew 18:6 - HIS Words are Quite Dire regarding anyone who commits them! And HE is Not Mocked!
Yes, we need to be discipled and we need to disciple others. It seems discipleship is being done
the issue with Robert Morris is a 40 year old issue. I know this from a very close friend who has been Pastor Robert's pastor and mentor for many years.
I wouldnt read anything the daily beast has to say even if its true. Those people hate religion.
Robert Morris has said it is true
It’s over for him. There’s just too much going on in a society of backlash. Critics are just looking for anything you’ve done years ago and trying to use it against you to ruin things. Too much stigma associated with sexually abusing minors and hurting women. Gateway church might see a halt or even decline to all the growth they were going to continue with in all kinds of ways. Stuff happens.
I think this should be handled by the law. He did admit, resigned and let his church leaders know what he did. I disagree with this bring handled in the media. Handling this through the media, destroys the wife and children of Mr. Morris as well as new Christians from his church. What did she hope to gain, I am sure it is not a healing. Healing and judgemrnts by others dhould be left inGods hands. Now there is a lot more people needing healing.
I like your channel so far where do you stand on the apostolic gifts and people calling themselves apostle or prophet this will make the difference
Thank you. That video should come in time! :)
None of these comments, I believe, are fair. Judgment is not ours to give first off, especially when we don't know the facts yet. Was it a young woman or a child to start with?? Why do we get to jump to conclusions without truth! Seems like men are constantly attacked and judged before the story has been told. Also, how can we bring people back to the Bible and to Jesus to God when there is no grave or forgiveness 🙏. What do those words really mean when the person is still held to shame! I'm just asking after listening to this video, we seem to not know what the story is.
Thanks for this video. These few words I share now are based entirely on the standards for the people of God in His Kingdom predicated on God's word, and NOT on judicial authority or the legal code. Firstly, yes, a man can fall into sin and then become a pastor. There are stipulations for being a pastor, and those have to be met, but the stipulations do not take into account sins that were committed prior and are now under the blood and repented of. Every pastor (and every child of God) has skeletons in their closet from the past before they started their church or were called - some far worse than others. Secondly, and this is going to be hard for some people to hear, but the Bible is clear that an accusation against an elder is not to be taken up unless confirmed by two or three witnesses. Now this is a hard one to swallow (just as Jesus saying that the ONLY valid reason for divorce in His Kingdom is sexual immorality and not other things such as 'emotional abuse' etc.) but it's important that we remember that the Holy Spirit had a reason for inspiring such standards and stipulations. Naturally, when it comes to certain "moral failures" or crimes, there are not two or three witnesses present. But this is where we have to decide if we are going to do things God's way or the world's way. This is where the metal meets the meat as to what Kingdom we truly belong to. When someone sins openly they are to be confronted openly (such as Paul confronting Peter, Samuel confronting Saul publicly, etc.) but when the sin is private it is not to be aired before others to whom it does not concern - you and me!
As you wisely point out in this video regarding women pastors, one disobedience does not justify another. Because these alleged events involved a minor, if the people of God elect to deal with it internally, then it is between the perpetrator and the minor's parents. However, once having been dealt with, the minor now grown up, does not have the right (according to God's word) to expose the dirty works of Satan before the world since this would be in disobedience regarding the rules of not taking up an accusation against an elder except for multiple witnesses. The only one who benefits from these types of scandals is Satan and his side. I said the same thing regarding Ravi Zacharias when his scandal broke out. These women were all adults and professed Christians, and yet they slandered a man and his legacy publicly when the events that transpired happened between adults in private. This is blatant disobedience to God's word. Something the Christian community needs to remember is that the works of the flesh don't cancel out the anointing of God in the New Covenant. All are sinners, and all fall short, but if we dump the baby out with the bath water in these types of scandals then it's clear who is benefiting from the scandal, and that's Satan. And doing works that benefit a certain side is SERVING that side. As we know from the New Testament, a man's anointing and power does not come from works of righteousness or "keeping the law" (or falling short of it), but from the hearing of faith and the power of Grace and mercy undeserved. That's sort of the whole point. Again, and I can't stress this enough, when God uses a man and anoints him and pours through him, this is God's doing and a testimony to God's Spirit using a frail vessel of clay. If the man then falls into sin, we are not to spit on what God has done through this man. In Ravi's case this is what happened, even to the point of some churches and companies taking his books off the shelf, etc. Christians need to start taking Galatians and a number of other New Testament teachers and standards relating to interpersonal issues far more seriously when these scandals arise because disobedience to God's word on these points is ONLY in service to the evil one, as all disobedience actually is.
You who are without sin cast the first stone. Robert Moore repented and confessed his sin and God has forgiven him but not people!!!!
Check your own life first before throwing stones at others!!!!!!
But why is she coming out about this now?
It is a shame what he did I’ll give you that, but it sounds he has done the correct things of repentance in paying for his Sin.
That’s a wonderful observation. Jesus Christ is not a sinner.😂😂😂😂
Never cared for his preaching and his arrogance, pride is very high. No accountability he if we was truly repented he should have turned himself in to the police. And never should have been excepted back in their former positions. People love these false teachers and preachers, entertainers.
well...lets see....i feel sorry for the man....pretty sad it took this many yrs to come to the light.......i think he should have resigned and then clean up his life but then also not to be pastor again......this was a crime and he should have gone to jail and beenlabeled a child molester....i feel sorry for the lady who this happened too....what a nightmare to live with.....this is really another sign of the last days as God exposes the evil in his own house as scripture says........Jesus is coming back so soon and we can all go in the rapture and be done with this wicked world....
Yes, if the allegations are true and the girl was a child, he should have gone to jail.
He resigned. It happened.
you really asking if he did it should he be reinstated? he should be in jail. he was never a pastor, he is a grifter
Hi BRITTNEY
God bless!
This is political, TRUMPS advisor.
You don’t seem happy
I have been going to Gateway Church since 2008. I am a survivor of childhood sexual abuse & domestic violence. This lady coming forth 35 years after this issue was properly dealt with back then is clearly the enemy trying to stick his head up to “kill steal & destroy”.
I’m all for holding people accountable and ensuring justice, but when something was properly dealt with 35 years ago and a person has humbled themselves, repented (actively turned away from sin and chosen to live a right standing with God life), bringing something back up to stone them is not a reflection of Christ’s heart, nor does it come from Jesus.
We serve a God who forgives and has used the most failable men all throughout history…King David murdered his wife’s previous husband so he could have her, Saul murdered thousands of Christians and both had an encounter with Jesus, repented and were saved & were mightily used by the Lord to do great things.
Pastor Robert Morris is now and has been since he truly surrendered his heart to Jesus years ago a Godly man who truly fears the Lord.
The Bible says, “we shall know them by their fruits” (Matthew 7:15-20) and “
But if I do them, and you don’t believe me, believe the works so that you can know and recognize that the Father is in me and I am in the Father.” (John 1:39)
I was at Gateway church when it was at that small building in Southlake in 2008…I have watched the Lord grow this church and how it’s grown can only be done by the Lord’s mighty hand. I have been healed, redeemed, delivered and blessed by Gateway Church and pastor Robert Morris’ sermons…it has produced mighty fruit in my life and that only comes from Jesus, His anointing and being in alignment with His Word.
“You will know them by their fruits… Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit.” Matthew 7:16-18
The fruit that’s been produced in my life and in the life of millions are proof of God’s hand, forgiveness and redemption in pastor Robert Morris’s life.
The Word (Bible) cannot lie, it is my solid rock and compass…it speaks and defends itself on what is truth & just period ✝️
The Word doesn’t lie that a “bad tree cannot produce good fruit”.
If pastor Robert Morris had been actively continuing in sin, or had “hidden sin”, we wouldn’t see the “good fruit” so many have experienced while at Gateway, we wouldn’t see the “good fruit” we’ve each experienced listening to Morris’ sermons and see how mightily Gateway church has grown.
God cannot lie and will never work against and in contrast to His Word because He cannot deny itself.
“if we are faithless, he remains faithful - for he cannot deny himself.” 2 Timothy 2:13
I was at the church for over 15 years. He led us all to believe the moral failure was with an adult. Not that he was 26 when his molestation with a CHILD was exposed. He SA abused her for 4 years.
He s still minimizing saying she was a "young lady". Lie.
People are so quick to condemn and throw stones with an entire mote in their own eye but want mercy for themselves but will turn around and accuse and condemn others. If he properly repented and the abuse was dealt with all those years ago and beautiful fruit has been produced than that is the same process of all the prophets we read about in the Bible. Do not be Pharisees and hypocrites. We are commanded to forgive and to have righteous judgement. Not to condemn and be unforgiving.
We shall see. More than likely there will be more come out. Jim Jones had a huge following. Ravi Zacharias. Hillsong, Bickle . Absolute power corrupts absolutely .
Also kill steal and destroy if you actually read that in context it's about false teachers which morris is . From Trinity to tithing it's false doctrine.my suggestion is read your Bible and not listen to Morris . Or just Google him and you can learn what's false .
You have been in deception many years . Break free of it .
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It sounds like you are victimizing the victim again
King David committed a sexual sin as well as murder… and God restored him.
The key is true repentance…
The Gifts and Callings of God are without repentance… You’re still gifted as a Pastor even after sin. You’ll suffer public humiliation and there are spiritual repercussions, but you’re still Called.
He should keep preaching….
The reason people have problems with this (and it is horrific) is they don’t understand the power of the mercy of God… unless of course it’s pertaining to them.
The fruit of Robert Morris ministries since the sin is proof that God is still with him.
P.S Only Satan would continue to bring this sin up 35 yrs later.
Let God have it at this point.
No statute of limitations on child molestation in Texas. Time for the lock up.
So the child was at fault your saying and this woman coming out in her pain is the devil ? What about the preacher touching her and what if it was your child ?
@@PastorRobert777 Obviously you’re adding your own narrative by suggesting the child is at fault, if I had said that then the child would need forgiveness and mercy. That’s not the case is it? And no, the woman is not the devil, but she is being used by him. And that’s just the facts. If she had forgiven him she wouldn’t be bringing it up. “Love (And God is Love) covers a multitude of sin” and what she’s doing isn’t love… she’s seeking revenge, she’s seeking to destroy his ministry, and that is satanic, not Godly.
… And if it were my child, 35 yrs ago, he would have been dead or in the hospital. But seeing Gods hand on his ministry 35 yrs later, I couldn’t call myself a Christian and still harbor such bitterness and unforgiveness in my heart. Today I would allow God to judge him and in obedience to my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, I would be praying for him to continue winning millions of souls and healing many who are still lost in darkness and under the power of the devil. Richest Blessings to you.
The wages of sin is death, sin/ crime doesn’t come without consequences. It’s doesn’t matter how long ago this took place. What if it was your child? Yes forgiveness n repentance are appropriate, but so are consequences.
He could step down just in time to become Trump’s spiritual advisor. He seems perfectly qualified for that position.
Take trump away what will happen?
It sounds like you are victimizing the victim again