Quick correction: African tribes in west Sudan are Muslim, not Christian. So the Darfur conflict is solely ethnic, not religious. Which of course doesn’t make it better in any type of way
my bet would be whoever wrote the script looked up the religious make up of south sudan which from report by international bodies says is mostly christain and assumed that it was the same in darfur.
Darfur might be just one of Sudan's regions, but it is BIG. Sudan is still a huge country, even after South Sudan broke away. So, how big is Darfur? It is roughly the same size (and shape), and also has about the same size population, as Sweden.
@@thepatriarchy819 well they can't because the ethnicities are split between different countries due to post colonialism. I mean thats the reason why we have not one, but TWO countries called Congo. The best comparison I can make in European terms is like the Polish in the 1880s-1918s, their ethnicities were split and lived in Germany, Russia and Austria-Hungary.
@@delfinenteddyson9865 The content of these videos is (usually) very good. But that still doesn't excuse the many spelling mistakes, getting words/numbers/names mixed up, basic editing errors etc that seem to happen ALL THE TIME. It's just sloppy and makes them appear unprofessional - it really doesn't take that much time and effort to get these basic things right when you have already invested so much time doing a video. If they want to be taken seriously outside of RUclips, they really do need to sort this kind of stuff out and start taking it more seriously.
@@joelarnold2394 sure, it's certainly better if it's clean. I don't know how many they are though. Because proof-reading is time consuming, and I am sure they are already doing that. I know people who paid for proof-reading and there where still mistakes in it afterwards.
Darfur should have been allowed to secede already. It's ridiculous how it remained under Arabic Sudan without a choice in referendum, even after they suffered a brutal genocide.
@@filipe5722 They do speak Sudanese Arabic, the only difference is their ethnicity. Some are African and some are Arab. RSF targets those with African origin
Honestly Sudan is such a shitshow at this point it might be better to dissolve the country and split Sudan into 2-3 nation states based on regional demographics, thus starting over from scratch. Those poor people have been through enough and the constant clashing of militias and ethnic groups won’t allow for any stability.
What happened and still happening in Dafur seems to be a textbook example of internal colonialism. Without devolving to giving hot takes about secede or not, I hope people in Dafur can have a better future. By the way, the outtakes are really funny.
People always seem to forget that the Arabs are the original colonizers of Africa and have been expanding and ethnic cleansing in the area for generations...
Sudan as an modern entity was created by Egypt in the early 1800s when the Egyptians attempted to colonise Africa. They occupied the Nile up to Ethiopia then lost and got colonised themselves by the British. At that point Sudan became an Anglo-Egyptian condominium. The British empire eventually declines. Egypt gains its independence, Sudan gains their later with all the territories that Egypt conquered in the 1800s (ie up to Ethiopia). Various peoples of Sudan began to fight for their independence. Khartoum fought to keep those people under it’s thumb. This goes on for a few decades and devolves into various genocides. Around this time osama bin Ladin was living in Sudan and starts attacking the USA ending with 9/11. Sudan depots bin Ladin to Afghanistan but this still draws the ire of the Americans who use their global influence to spilt Sudan in two while they were busy invading Iraq, Afghanistan etc. This leads to South Sudan achieving its independence after 200 years of occupation first by the Egyptian, then British, then Anglo-Egyptians, then Sudanese. But the American did not really care about or understand Sudan so they peaced out when they split South Sudan from the north but in reality there are other regions of Sudan that exist in the same situation as South Sudan and the quintessential example is Darfur. Darfur is a historic African Country that first dates back to the Daju kingdom that dates back to the 12 century.
"internal colonisation" I get what you mean, but this is a retarded concept. It's like if we said France was "internally colonising" Algeria because it was within their borders.
@@second2none914 Sudan (Nubia) is more ancient than anything in Darfur. The Daju kingdom was a small chunk of Darfur and was established by Northern Sudanese settlers from Shendi.
It will never end in Africa. Tribal mindsets along with caring about just themselves and not the people are what setting Africa back. SA WAS a great example of what Africa could’ve been😂
What I would also like to add. The RSF forces come from the more rural, nomadic and tribal parts of Sudan which have stronger martial cultures. The RSF have been engaged in war often in recently years. The Sudanese loyalists meanwhile mainly draw from more urban areas of Sudan/regions that practice sedentary agriculture. A huge reason why the RSF can shift more than it’s mass despite having less desirable circumstances. The RSF’s fighters are more prone, hardened and charactered to conflict.
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Yes In case of South sudan the conflict was between arab Muslims vs african Christian, but in the case of Darfur the conflict is between arab Muslims and African Muslims, its worth noting that the RSF " JANJAWEED" are arab militias so basically the conflict is between arab Muslims and arab Muslims, unfortunately the people are cought up in between bothe Africans and Arab
This is typically for the islam, you can read the fairytale quran and the stupid nonsense of this liar muhammad to understand the conflicts their. All for an imagination of some sick persons who burned their minds under the sunheat.
Thank you so much for your informative videos! - but I have to say, the audio in this whole entire video is REALLY quiet. Going forward, can you mix your audio louder so we don't have to fuss around so much to turn it up? :)
The two main poblems of African countries Politics is 1.Religion (Muslims or Christianity). 2.Tribalism (Ethenics groups who share language culture and customs) Take good example of Sudan firstly Muslims fought with Christians and then the country divided and South Sudan was new country (Then South Sudan new country who are Christian went to war because of tribalism and now the war is over .....ish). Now the Sudan again who are Muslims are fighting against other Muslims.The main problem is tribalism.
No really, you're a westerner looking at this with a SOCIAL perspective, America has its own social problems aka racism, lgbt rights, feminism, wokeism and all that good stuff, bringing tribalism coming from a westerner is pretty ironic........
@@fnansjy456 Nationalism if about nation, tribalism is about tribe, I suppose. Nation is not the same thing as tribe. Nation is a mass of people of the same history/language/religion. Tribe has stuctured distribution of power. And I think that tribes are usually smaller and people are interconnected by kinship, which has no role in nations. Europe had tribes as well in its past. Why is the word tribe disrespectfull? It just decribes different organisation of society, without any intend to insult anyone.
as someone that lives in the region (egypt) the northern sudanese people are black african muslims that happen to speak arabic and are muslim. so are the people of darfur. the issue here is that this is a power grab. it is not racial of religious tensions. outsiders always seem to over sell this point. i repeat, all of these people are black african muslims that speak arabic and follow islam. i have many friends that live there and travel to egypt frequently.
If the guys really want to pronounce the names accurately writing them in phonetics might help. I met someone who was supposed to sing something with german lyrics, but didn't know german, so they spelled it phonetically and it sounded alright
Nuba Mountains / South Khordofan is actually the most likely region to split from Sudan soon to become an independent. The reason is because they have stronger armed movement known as SPLM-N there and they have been fighting the government of Sudan since 2011. Those people don’t tolerate Arabs’s nonsense in Sudan. Sudan will likely be splitted into more 4 countries soon.
I get the "we just don't work together" but at some point you just gotta get you shit together and more spliting won't save you. You have to work with what you got. Not every human can be it's own country.
There should be a hundred more nations, splitting up is the solution always. If the people don't get along they should split. If things don't work time to break up. The Sudans: Sudan = Struggled to make everyone happy West Sudan = Civil war is possible South Sudan = Decades long civil war created it East Sudan = Civil war stopped Central Sudan = Things fail new country Nile Sudan = Things fail split again New Sudan = Things fail create new nation New nation creation: 1. Do the people get along 2. Is conflict ongoing 3. Are people satisfied Save nations: 1. No wars 2. No friction 3. No conflict
The issue is that break-offs can set off a chain reaction of splits. Some argue that this is why Darfur is where it is. The African Union is REALLY cautious about recognizing seceding groups for this very reason. There's not necessarily an easy solution, and no one party to blame. Even states without a history of being colonized (Ethiopia for example) have the same sort of problems.
Spoiler alert! all former colonies and territories are bound to splinter into tiny bits that are more manageable, all the former colonies' and territories' boundaries and subdivisions don't really make sense as they were designed to simplify extraction and exploitation by outside forces rather than what would make sense to the people on the ground.
Ethiopia wasn't a colony (it was only very briefly occupied around 1940) and it has even more ethnic subdivisions that are prone to conflict. I'm amused by the idea that the rest of Africa, with its long history of wars and conquests, like most other continents, would have somehow naturally settled into peaceful and homogeneous states had it not been for borders drawn up by colonial powers.
@@HypernefelosIf you think Etheopia has more conflicts than countries like Nigeria or the CAR or Sudan then you have no buisness speaking about any African affairs. That's insane.
@@ikeu6433 Did you completely miss the Tigray War last year (up to hundreds of thousands dead, close to a million displaced)? Or the decades Ethiopia was fighting Eritrean secessionists, until the latter won their independence and then kept fighting Ethiopia? Or the Somali secessionists in the south? And meanwhile there was a communist coup that ended up collapsing after the country's economy did, but not before some genocide got added to the mix. Need I go on?
@@ikeu6433Ethiopia does actually have more conflicts than Sudan 😂😂 and the thing is, Ethiopia was an empire itself, most the land it controls was conquered
If Darfur does become independent from this, then Sudan could potentially be the nation who both of the most recent nations coulf have split off from, assuming Darfur splits off before 2027
A person in my group therapy group on Discord audibly had bombs exploding near her house all throughout our session. We haven't been able to get in contact with her since.
And most of Europe and Asia for centuries. Not sure why people think sameness would prevent conflicts. I would put middle east but they're classified as Asian if I'm not mistaken.
They don't look the same though. Maybe to westerners we might look the same but to us we can easily spot the difference. Even my nieghbors Somalia, I can tell the difference between us Eritreans just by their face alone and same applies to an Amhara Ethiopian.
@@keshi5541 I was intentionally make a simplistic critique. As you point out, people will find any small differences within a population to separate people
This phenomenon will most likely occur frequently in Africa. Most African countries are western constructs and over time they will more likely revert to their tribal base.
Nothing wrong with that, nation-state is generally more stable anyway. Since the biggest group of peoples will always want control, i doubt anything will change if there isn't military conflict. A group of 300 nations in Africa will be more stable than 100 dying colonial remains struggling with ethnic violence. Maybe they can move to more understanding after this all over.
For anyone wondering, Darfur is bigger than countries like France, Germany and most European countries, losing this region will make Sudan alot smaller on the map
Al-Mahdi doesn't just mean protector, it also is a reference to the Islamic version of the messiah and a callback to the Sudanese leader who fought against the Egyptians and British in the 19th century. That's a BFD to be called that
it wont split and if you ask darfur people if they want to declare independence, they will say no because they know that some countrys want sudan to collapse. If they did voting on if they want to split, they are gonna cheat the votes and make it 99% yes because they want sudan to collapse.
@@Remake5182 Apparently it's "because it's too big". Like wtf kinda reason is that lmao. I wonder if they think the US should split too. Russia's not splitting, most of the area it covers is sparsely inhabited.
Two mistakes. 1. Both the Arabs and Africans are Muslim. There are Christians on both sides that is the Nubian Copts in Northern Sudan and some of the Nuba of South Kordofan but overall Christians are a minority in Sudan. 2. The map implies Africans live in the West and the Arabs in Eastern Sudan, the reality is more complex. Blue Nile for example is shown in the map to be inhabited by Arabs. Blue Nile is literally the least Arab region in Sudan. The Africans there, despite being "nominally" Muslim actually wanted to join South Sudan because they still strongly adhere to their Nilotic traditions. Unfortunately the "Popular Consultations "that were to take place in both Blue Nile and Kordofan in 2011 never happened and in fact the former governor of Blue Nile Malik Agar is at war with the Sudanese Army since then. Also, North Kordofan and North Darfur both have Arab majorities (Arab is a relative term, the people there are actually just Arabized Africans like the Misseriya and Zaghawa) while South Darfur and South Kordofan have African majorities though South Darfurians are members of the Fur tribe and are Muslim while the South Kordofan majority are Nubans who include a large Christian community.
I was born in 2000 and I always knew Sudan but to be quite honest I never heard of South Sudan until 2019 when I started caring about geography they didn't even teach us about South Sudan in school a lot of people probably don't even know of their existence yet
A lot of stupid comments, saying these problems will not occur if not for European colonization. Remove Europe from the 15th century and imagine the continent going independent after WW2, it will be thousands of small nations since they don't know each other every 1 kilometer. It's like Europe itself in the 14th century AD, made up of small kingdoms (Spain has a lot, and Italy, Germany also). If India, the Philippines, and Indonesia were never colonized, mind you, it will be hundreds of countries today!!!
SOOO this is where hypocrisy and irony meet, should the former soviet nations Ukraine, Estonia, Georgia, Estonia, Belarus, Finland still be part of Russia? Or should Poland still be part of Germany?
Ugh Not Really, Indonesia already Have Majapahit and Various Islamic Sultanate that Unite The Country through ITS Tributary System though they botch the alliance with Sunda Kingdom lol.
Next time also speak about Nuba Mountains. Also Darfur is majorly an Islamic region not Christianity only Nuba Mountains / South Khordofan is Christianity dominant region. In fact that is the region which has has gone through a lot of wars till today but unfortunately it doesn’t gets a lot of media attention. Nuba Mountains is likely the first and only region to split from Sudan soon.
if you're not very sophisticated then yes that's how you would think about it. in reality you're shrugging at dictatorships and genocide, probably as sponsored by certain other autocratic countries.
Sudan's borders were created by the Egyptians in the 19th century starting in the 1820s. Dafur resisted and wasnt conquered until the 1870s. So you cant blame the Europeans for this one.
well that's not an arabic word, perhaps حاميني or something like this but I can assure you this is no Arabic 1:54 edit: yup they made a mistake, I found this from a BBC article: وقد أعطى البشير لحميدتي لقب "حمايتي"، بمعنى "الذي يحميني". so it's حمايتي not حايمت
The Sudanese conflict is way way bigger than that and you've done a pretty good job in explaining it, but in your explanation it seemed like the remnants on the old regime are the helping hemeti. Please correct that in future videos
Funny thing is Sudan in ancient times was the kingdom of Kush which was a very difficult kingdom to conquer and resisted all foreign invasions from the Assyrians, Persians, Greeks, Romans and Islamic caliphates after they had conquered Egypt. it was only after the collapse of Kush kingdom and the 3 Nubians kingdoms that Arabs made their way to Sudan and started slave trade and oppressing indigenous tribes. tribes like dinka however fought back against Arabs and later against the ottomans Turks and resisted Arabization which made them a target by Muslim north so the fought for seperation. But now Arab sudanese are fighting among themselves and also killing the non Arab Muslims. this is why Sudan has never had peace.
The current borders are only still in place because similar to Latin America after independence all the countries in the region signed an agreement to keep the borders intact
@@sonicmeerkat brazil took literal territory of every single one of its neighbour Edit: also Chile is an underdog story since it always was smaller than its neighbours while you expect small countries to be co quered and cease to exist
EU, Russia, Libya, problem solved, the EU supports RSF militarily and financially to stop immigrants from entering Europe, Sudan has the most African refugees who seek to go to Europe, this channel is heavily biased and won't show you this
@dannytallmage2409 Thing is they failed, majority of the refugees who left aren't actually Sudanese, those 700k who went to Chad aren't Sudanese, those 300k who went to Egypt aren't Sudanese, Sudan houses millions of refugees, those refugees would pay traffickers thousands $ for a boat ride from Libya to either Italy or Spain. All the EU did is bring the refugees closer and closer to Europe, instead of containing the problem they brought the problem closer and closer, good luck to the EU trying to bribe Chad others who now host the refugees. 🤣
@@khanhnguyen-tt3ff M8, you should read a history book. The past is not as reasonable and understanding as you think. People died in a war for much less.
@@ToneyCrimson yeah and there are rare case in history where a country willing to give up land without a wars, and their no stopping the home country of waging another war to reclaim lost territory.
Everyone says drawing up borders by Europeans without considering tribal structures has destroyed Africa. Everyone says resolving ethnic conflicts and letting countries break apart is destroying Africa. I wonder if thinking in tribal structures isn't actually what's destroying Africa. As a general rule: if you try to form a new country because you don't like the rulers family and he doesn't care much for yours, ask yourself: will my new country have a port on the ocean or in fact lose access to international trade? If the answer is no port, then reconsider your position
Like Allah fictional imaginary been characters who never existed. Never ever speak for itself to the people's of the world of reality but only in people's heads always in there's heads. I say beens sarcastically instead of beings extraordinary claims require evidence l bet you live in England.
Sudan as an modern entity was created by Egypt in the early 1800s when the Egyptians attempted to colonise Africa. They occupied the Nile up to Ethiopia then lost and got colonised themselves by the British. At that point Sudan became an Anglo-Egyptian condominium. The British empire eventually declines. Egypt gains its independence, Sudan gains their later with all the territories that Egypt conquered in the 1800s (ie up to Ethiopia). Various peoples of Sudan began to fight for their independence. Khartoum fought to keep those people under it’s thumb. This goes on for a few decades and devolves into various genocides. Around this time osama bin Ladin was living in Sudan and starts attacking the USA ending with 9/11. Sudan depots bin Ladin to Afghanistan but this still draws the ire of the Americans who use their global influence to spilt Sudan in two while they were busy invading Iraq, Afghanistan etc. This leads to South Sudan achieving its independence after 200 years of occupation first by the Egyptian, then British, then Anglo-Egyptians, then Sudanese. But the American did not really care about or understand Sudan so they peaced out when they split South Sudan from the north but in reality there are other regions of Sudan that exist in the same situation as South Sudan and the quintessential example is Darfur. Darfur is a historic African Country that first dates back to the Daju kingdom that dates back to the 12 century.
Good video but I'd like to point out that this isn't a religious issue. It's a ethno-racial issue between the nilotic peoples on Dafur (related to south Sudanese) and the Arabs in the majority of Sudan
Sure the borders and countries the colonial powers made up are not perfect but I just dont get what makes so Impossible for them to live with other ethnicities or religions. Splitting every ex colony into new countries by ethnic and religious lines would lead to hundreds of little countries that would never get any power. So the small countries would try to take over the others and we would end up with the same exact thing
Europeans caused 2 world wars and multiple cold wars caused they hated each other. So this is exactly what was supposed to happen naturally. Even more 80 years ago. But europeans keep meddling in everything.
That actually kinda makes sense. Splitting the country into 3 or 4 smaller countries would not solve the endemic issue of tribalism that exists across the region. I mean, by the logic Somali should be the most stable and prosperous country in Africa seeing how homogenous it is. But unfortunately that is not the case, what happens instead is people fought over their clans within the same ethnic group.
*I don't have a huge grasp on African geopolitical stuff, but I'm pretty sure that was it basically.* *The non-Muslim southerners felt oppressed or at least not cared for by the Muslim policy makers.* *They had a civil war for 10-15 years I think.* *I know Sudan has a lot of oil, but not sure how they're splitting that up.* *The South will need that to build their country up.* *Again this is just from what I can remember 10-12 years ago when their Civil War was wrapping up so I'm probably wrong on a few points.*
The US sent the UN solely for personal interests, in the world of Geopolitics there are no permanent friends but there are permanent interests, I'm sure you should obviously know how the US is crazy about the almighty OIL, the ripped the middle east apart and are now doing the same in Africa, South Sudan was the beginning, then it was Libya........
I recommend watching a vice documentary called inside darfur. Lots of paramilitary group like the wagner group raid villages take land from the sudanesses set up oil plants and hire international to work there while the natives live in poverty
USA's decisions seem increasingly troubling too, as well as Ruissa's (obviously). So my question is why target China specificly? The question come from a bias perspective.
Central Sudan might end up renaming itself to its original name before European colonist arrived in Africa. At least that what I read in an earlier comment
I'm all for helping people who are in need, but why is it that no one mentions these countries that have war, and yet everyone is talking about Ukraine? Is it because all they care about is their interest and they don't give a f about the Ukrainians or the Sudanese?
It probably feels more relevant for European and North American news outlets. Sudan falling into two won't threaten the lively hoods of any Germans, but Ukraine falling will.
I feel like its because Ukraine is fighting the largest war in Europe since WW2 against a nuclear superpower. And sudan is just some country in Africa having yet another civil war. Its nothing new and the stakes are not as high by far. People are way to quick to draw the race card while there are so many other factors at play.
Because Ukraine is an important food supplier in Eastern Europe. Means Right infront of Western countries and media Not to mention, Russia is involved, which has always been a great power in Western conflicts compared to Sudan, which is ultimately something not in the mind of Western auidance , Dosent effect them what's so ever , and Not even remotely close to any of it culturely /geographly or politically , to most people in the west Sudan is a civil war generating failed state at most or baiscly unheard of at worst And since the Western world pretty much controls the media foucs, You will baiscly never hear about Sudan, Ethiopia, Oman , etc etc. .
Quick correction: African tribes in west Sudan are Muslim, not Christian. So the Darfur conflict is solely ethnic, not religious. Which of course doesn’t make it better in any type of way
“Well actually 🤓☝️” like damn it’s a war any reason is bad numb nuts
@@Goatedmaskmy argument when someone comments "☝️🤓": 💥💀
@@ivangordienko8081 lol I respect that
my bet would be whoever wrote the script looked up the religious make up of south sudan which from report by international bodies says is mostly christain and assumed that it was the same in darfur.
its not the savage religion of islam thats responsible just savage tribes...
Darfur might be just one of Sudan's regions, but it is BIG. Sudan is still a huge country, even after South Sudan broke away.
So, how big is Darfur? It is roughly the same size (and shape), and also has about the same size population, as Sweden.
Just imagine if Africa had proper nationalism like we did here in Europe. 😅
@@thepatriarchy819 well they can't because the ethnicities are split between different countries due to post colonialism. I mean thats the reason why we have not one, but TWO countries called Congo.
The best comparison I can make in European terms is like the Polish in the 1880s-1918s, their ethnicities were split and lived in Germany, Russia and Austria-Hungary.
Am sure you are not American....you have a good grip on geography😂😂😂
Yeah but Sweden is a tiny country
@@DrShocktopusobviously two different ethnicities can never be expected to live in the same country together
I know it's a serious topic, but the outtakes of Jack trying to figure out the pronunciations is 😂❤😊🎉
It would be funny, if they weren't constantly f-ing them up still...
@@joelarnold2394 it's really a non issue though
And after all these takes, the Arabic spelling for Hameti was still wrong too🤣 it was funny to hear and watch😁
@@delfinenteddyson9865 The content of these videos is (usually) very good. But that still doesn't excuse the many spelling mistakes, getting words/numbers/names mixed up, basic editing errors etc that seem to happen ALL THE TIME. It's just sloppy and makes them appear unprofessional - it really doesn't take that much time and effort to get these basic things right when you have already invested so much time doing a video. If they want to be taken seriously outside of RUclips, they really do need to sort this kind of stuff out and start taking it more seriously.
@@joelarnold2394 sure, it's certainly better if it's clean. I don't know how many they are though. Because proof-reading is time consuming, and I am sure they are already doing that. I know people who paid for proof-reading and there where still mistakes in it afterwards.
Darfur should have been allowed to secede already. It's ridiculous how it remained under Arabic Sudan without a choice in referendum, even after they suffered a brutal genocide.
I don't think there are much people left to vote for it and Sudan is in the middle of a conflict. No referundum is possible currently.
People from Darfur are Muslim and do speak Arabic. The only problem is that the RSF are targeting their ethnicity.
@@redsky6630 They might be Muslim, but they are not Arabic. Being target for their ethnicity is a very big problem.
@@filipe5722 They do speak Sudanese Arabic, the only difference is their ethnicity. Some are African and some are Arab. RSF targets those with African origin
@filipe5722
And this why Sudanese army fight RSF
Honestly Sudan is such a shitshow at this point it might be better to dissolve the country and split Sudan into 2-3 nation states based on regional demographics, thus starting over from scratch. Those poor people have been through enough and the constant clashing of militias and ethnic groups won’t allow for any stability.
They will just fight each other again for a diferent reason
Can't wait for the 3 countries to fight each other afterwards
So essentially returning Sudan to its pre-colonial state. I’m all for it. Their borders never made any sense anyway
That would apply to almost all nation in africa.
sounds like its time for the whites to take over
"Killing civilian soldiers...?"
You mean "civilians?"
Hey probably means militia
What happened and still happening in Dafur seems to be a textbook example of internal colonialism. Without devolving to giving hot takes about secede or not, I hope people in Dafur can have a better future. By the way, the outtakes are really funny.
People always seem to forget that the Arabs are the original colonizers of Africa and have been expanding and ethnic cleansing in the area for generations...
Sudan as an modern entity was created by Egypt in the early 1800s when the Egyptians attempted to colonise Africa.
They occupied the Nile up to Ethiopia then lost and got colonised themselves by the British.
At that point Sudan became an Anglo-Egyptian condominium.
The British empire eventually declines. Egypt gains its independence, Sudan gains their later with all the territories that Egypt conquered in the 1800s (ie up to Ethiopia).
Various peoples of Sudan began to fight for their independence. Khartoum fought to keep those people under it’s thumb. This goes on for a few decades and devolves into various genocides.
Around this time osama bin Ladin was living in Sudan and starts attacking the USA ending with 9/11.
Sudan depots bin Ladin to Afghanistan but this still draws the ire of the Americans who use their global influence to spilt Sudan in two while they were busy invading Iraq, Afghanistan etc.
This leads to South Sudan achieving its independence after 200 years of occupation first by the Egyptian, then British, then Anglo-Egyptians, then Sudanese.
But the American did not really care about or understand Sudan so they peaced out when they split South Sudan from the north but in reality there are other regions of Sudan that exist in the same situation as South Sudan and the quintessential example is Darfur.
Darfur is a historic African Country that first dates back to the Daju kingdom that dates back to the 12 century.
"internal colonisation"
I get what you mean, but this is a retarded concept.
It's like if we said France was "internally colonising" Algeria because it was within their borders.
@@second2none914 Darfur is a historic African Country but Sudan was created by Egypt in the early 1800s? So the Sennar/Funj kingdom never existed?
@@second2none914 Sudan (Nubia) is more ancient than anything in Darfur. The Daju kingdom was a small chunk of Darfur and was established by Northern Sudanese settlers from Shendi.
It's interesting how something that Vice covered over a decade ago is still happening now.
It will never end in Africa. Tribal mindsets along with caring about just themselves and not the people are what setting Africa back. SA WAS a great example of what Africa could’ve been😂
@@blank1778SA was never not a horrid cess
@@blank1778 You mean an apartheid state?
@@blank1778no no no modern day rawanda is a great example of what Africa should be
@@chillin5703no no no modern day rawanda is a great example of what Africa should be
It’s honestly depressing how every time I hear about Sudan it’s somehow getting worse
Its Africa super power
@@salihalash4111 Not really, Sudan is just war and coups (and also some genocide)
I’ve always thought this was inevitable. The split between South Sudan, Sudan, and Darfur is for the best. The colonial borders were poorly made.
Colonial borders, yiu sound like an expert, tell us all more
Darfur is prt of Sudan since 18th century
Noone likes seeing their country split apart mate
“Is for the best”
South Sudan has been a failed state since it split off
What I would also like to add. The RSF forces come from the more rural, nomadic and tribal parts of Sudan which have stronger martial cultures. The RSF have been engaged in war often in recently years. The Sudanese loyalists meanwhile mainly draw from more urban areas of Sudan/regions that practice sedentary agriculture. A huge reason why the RSF can shift more than it’s mass despite having less desirable circumstances. The RSF’s fighters are more prone, hardened and charactered to conflict.
One of the reasons of war is israel. They think we dont know we laugh at their ignorance of not knowing our acknowledgement of their actions
'Civillian soldiers' is a CRAZY statement
your ppl created this
@@mortis717 it's the white man fault we these poor smart people killing each other, no other reason
@@mortis717Dont be rascist
@@parrot1442 explain to me how saying that britain caused all of this mess to be racist
@@Kennoey.they didn’t create Sudan or South Sudan
Sudan, South Sudan & Souther Sudan.
"So we draw a line here in the middle of the desert"
Nah, its sudan, South Sudan, and Slightly Norther than South Sudan /j
@stonebeetle006 I literally put /j
@stonebeetle006 Its literally a joke relax
Then Souther Sudan splits into Souther Sudan and Southest Sudan 😂
The irony of in-fighting among the military class being the reason Sudan finally lost control of the Darfur region is something else.
South Sudan, Sudan, and soon to be West Sudan
Later there would be sudan, south sudan, west sudan, north sudan and east sudan
How about “the other one” ?😂
i think darfur would keep its name.. west sudan ridiculous
North Sudan, South Sudan, West Sudan, East Sudan, Central Sudan
North Sudan Northwest Sudan West Sudan Southwest Sudan South Sudan Southeast Sudan East Sudan Northeast Sudan North Central Sudan Northwest Central Sudan West Central Sudan Southwest Central Sudan South Central Sudan Southeast Sudan East Central Sudan Northeast Central Sudan Up Sudan Down Sudan & Sudan
So nice to see you giving the pronunciations a go!
Yes In case of South sudan the conflict was between arab Muslims vs african Christian, but in the case of Darfur the conflict is between arab Muslims and African Muslims, its worth noting that the RSF " JANJAWEED" are arab militias so basically the conflict is between arab Muslims and arab Muslims, unfortunately the people are cought up in between bothe Africans and Arab
There are no Arab muslims in Sudan.
They are African muslims.
As you can see in this video.
@@VIVIHESS there are Arab Muslim e.g. baggara arabs
This is typically for the islam, you can read the fairytale quran and the stupid nonsense of this liar muhammad to understand the conflicts their. All for an imagination of some sick persons who burned their minds under the sunheat.
Correction 1:52
حمايتي himayti
Thank you so much for your informative videos! - but I have to say, the audio in this whole entire video is REALLY quiet. Going forward, can you mix your audio louder so we don't have to fuss around so much to turn it up? :)
The two main poblems of African countries Politics is
1.Religion (Muslims or Christianity).
2.Tribalism (Ethenics groups who share language culture and customs)
Take good example of Sudan firstly Muslims fought with Christians and then the country divided and South Sudan was new country (Then South Sudan new country who are Christian went to war because of tribalism and now the war is over .....ish).
Now the Sudan again who are Muslims are fighting against other Muslims.The main problem is tribalism.
Nationalism not tribalism you don't call ww2 or the balkan wars tribal, it is disrespectful
Just make more borders but keep free trade and free movement. Now they feel better they are on the map and can design another funny flag.
@@fnansjy456it was absolutely tribalism, and so is this. There aren't concepts of nations fighting, it's ethnic groups and ethnic tensions.
No really, you're a westerner looking at this with a SOCIAL perspective, America has its own social problems aka racism, lgbt rights, feminism, wokeism and all that good stuff, bringing tribalism coming from a westerner is pretty ironic........
@@fnansjy456 Nationalism if about nation, tribalism is about tribe, I suppose. Nation is not the same thing as tribe. Nation is a mass of people of the same history/language/religion. Tribe has stuctured distribution of power. And I think that tribes are usually smaller and people are interconnected by kinship, which has no role in nations. Europe had tribes as well in its past. Why is the word tribe disrespectfull? It just decribes different organisation of society, without any intend to insult anyone.
as someone that lives in the region (egypt) the northern sudanese people are black african muslims that happen to speak arabic and are muslim. so are the people of darfur. the issue here is that this is a power grab. it is not racial of religious tensions. outsiders always seem to over sell this point. i repeat, all of these people are black african muslims that speak arabic and follow islam. i have many friends that live there and travel to egypt frequently.
3:58 definitely needs a and since killing civilian soldiers reads fine with a comma, but doesn't sound right when spoken
If the guys really want to pronounce the names accurately writing them in phonetics might help. I met someone who was supposed to sing something with german lyrics, but didn't know german, so they spelled it phonetically and it sounded alright
They're English, they cannot read phonetically
@@fra604so true 😂.
@@fra604you could say worse than americans, literally i say (sue+dan; or sue+dahn)
Nuba Mountains / South Khordofan is actually the most likely region to split from Sudan soon to become an independent. The reason is because they have stronger armed movement known as SPLM-N there and they have been fighting the government of Sudan since 2011. Those people don’t tolerate Arabs’s nonsense in Sudan. Sudan will likely be splitted into more 4 countries soon.
Agreed
Every Sudanese gets their own Republic!
loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
South Sudan is already UN recognised country - saying "West and South of the Country", implies it's still a part of Sudan...
South Africa says hello
Power cannot exist in a vacuum. In absence of a clear leader, power goes to the ones who possess a monopoly of force.
The most charismatic or slimiest if not both was up coming at the top of power
4:02 " Killing civilian solders"
😂
Sudan really is the new Yugoslavia huh
Loved the blooper at the end!
3:56 Airstrikes, which has ended up killing *civilian soldiers*
They can split all they want, doesn’t matter at all.
I get the "we just don't work together" but at some point you just gotta get you shit together and more spliting won't save you. You have to work with what you got. Not every human can be it's own country.
Ah yes. Just get your shit together after a genocide. Just like the Jews did after the Holoc- wait nevermind they also created an ethnostate :)
Czechoslovakia split was peaceful and good it's a great example better than having a civil war
There should be a hundred more nations, splitting up is the solution always. If the people don't get along they should split. If things don't work time to break up.
The Sudans:
Sudan = Struggled to make everyone happy
West Sudan = Civil war is possible
South Sudan = Decades long civil war created it
East Sudan = Civil war stopped
Central Sudan = Things fail new country
Nile Sudan = Things fail split again
New Sudan = Things fail create new nation
New nation creation:
1. Do the people get along
2. Is conflict ongoing
3. Are people satisfied
Save nations:
1. No wars
2. No friction
3. No conflict
Arabs are too imperialist to live with other ethnicities
Easy for you to say. This is a lot bigger than “we just don’t work together”
"civilian soldiers" (3:57)? Soldiers are, by definition, not civilians. Civilians are, by definition, not soldiers.
I have no idea about their conflict, but I feel like splitting up might be a good thing for the future if there is too much internal tension.
The issue is that break-offs can set off a chain reaction of splits. Some argue that this is why Darfur is where it is. The African Union is REALLY cautious about recognizing seceding groups for this very reason. There's not necessarily an easy solution, and no one party to blame. Even states without a history of being colonized (Ethiopia for example) have the same sort of problems.
I mean Ethiopia is a colonizer nation themselves. So it kind of makes sense.
@@keshi5541Ethiopia is not a colonizing nation
Who said they arent , forget ogaden war? Eritrea?
No
Like Oil and Water... cannot be mixed.
No wonder that Christian South Sudan wanted to leave.
Christ Reigns Supreme
Spoiler alert! all former colonies and territories are bound to splinter into tiny bits that are more manageable, all the former colonies' and territories' boundaries and subdivisions don't really make sense as they were designed to simplify extraction and exploitation by outside forces rather than what would make sense to the people on the ground.
YES EXACTLY
Ethiopia wasn't a colony (it was only very briefly occupied around 1940) and it has even more ethnic subdivisions that are prone to conflict. I'm amused by the idea that the rest of Africa, with its long history of wars and conquests, like most other continents, would have somehow naturally settled into peaceful and homogeneous states had it not been for borders drawn up by colonial powers.
@@HypernefelosIf you think Etheopia has more conflicts than countries like Nigeria or the CAR or Sudan then you have no buisness speaking about any African affairs. That's insane.
@@ikeu6433 Did you completely miss the Tigray War last year (up to hundreds of thousands dead, close to a million displaced)? Or the decades Ethiopia was fighting Eritrean secessionists, until the latter won their independence and then kept fighting Ethiopia? Or the Somali secessionists in the south? And meanwhile there was a communist coup that ended up collapsing after the country's economy did, but not before some genocide got added to the mix. Need I go on?
@@ikeu6433Ethiopia does actually have more conflicts than Sudan 😂😂 and the thing is, Ethiopia was an empire itself, most the land it controls was conquered
If Darfur does become independent from this, then Sudan could potentially be the nation who both of the most recent nations coulf have split off from, assuming Darfur splits off before 2027
why 2027?
@@Ravi9A because Bougainville would beat them then
Just a heads up, you left in your description card for the end segment!
(I sneakily love seeing these things haha)
A person in my group therapy group on Discord audibly had bombs exploding near her house all throughout our session. We haven't been able to get in contact with her since.
At least you're in a group therapy group to deal with the loss
If everyone “looked” the same there would be no racism and conflicts would end. I present to you, Sudan and other sub Saharan African countries.
And most of Europe and Asia for centuries. Not sure why people think sameness would prevent conflicts. I would put middle east but they're classified as Asian if I'm not mistaken.
They don't look the same though. Maybe to westerners we might look the same but to us we can easily spot the difference. Even my nieghbors Somalia, I can tell the difference between us Eritreans just by their face alone and same applies to an Amhara Ethiopian.
Spoken from some place in Europe whose history is 2000 years of war against the people on the next hill
@@keshi5541 What's the difference between the Amhara and other Ethiopians? I'm curious as an outsider.
@@keshi5541 I was intentionally make a simplistic critique. As you point out, people will find any small differences within a population to separate people
Civilian soilders? Not ebtirely sure how that is possible... (3:58)
Agreed
2:38 when your warlords wear the uniform of the country. Sadness.
This phenomenon will most likely occur frequently in Africa. Most African countries are western constructs and over time they will more likely revert to their tribal base.
Nothing wrong with that, nation-state is generally more stable anyway. Since the biggest group of peoples will always want control, i doubt anything will change if there isn't military conflict. A group of 300 nations in Africa will be more stable than 100 dying colonial remains struggling with ethnic violence. Maybe they can move to more understanding after this all over.
Countries in the Americas are the same, western constructs yet this type of ethnic violence was not that common
@@rodrigoe.gordillo2617because most of American countries started as white colonial settlement
@@rodrigoe.gordillo2617
Because those indigenous groups were driven to functional extinction by whites.
That is generally europe or any co tinet who built their borders without exploitation from europeans
I hope Darfur doesn’t fail like South Sudan
Look at India and Pakistan, Pakistan split off from India and they've been best buddies ever since.
The end was spectacular😅
So interesting AND EVEN THOUGH I LOVE YOU GUYS I AM SURE you made the wrong call in the end 😂
🎉Just create a 'Holy Roman Empire of the Sudanese Nation' and let each village do its own thing!
No not the Boardergore NOOOOO
That wouldnt exactly work as you may think
@@stargazer-elite If you wanna Fox african borders, you need squiggly borders.
If that happens I hope there'll be an African Napoleon to fix the border gore
New countries be like: "We want to be our own country!"
After independence: "Give humanitarian aid plox"
North Korea is my favourite
“We hate the west! butalsocantfeedourpeoplewithoutthem...”
because they only give them independence after a bloody war duh
Sudanly it's not half the state it used to be.
lol
For anyone wondering, Darfur is bigger than countries like France, Germany and most European countries, losing this region will make Sudan alot smaller on the map
A Sudan for every point of the compass!
If you include the microstate of North Sudan in Bir Tawil we just need one more...
Al-Mahdi doesn't just mean protector, it also is a reference to the Islamic version of the messiah and a callback to the Sudanese leader who fought against the Egyptians and British in the 19th century. That's a BFD to be called that
Yugoslavia Africa edition
What happened to Yugoslavia
@@ugwuanyicollins6136 it became a long trail of dominoes. with every domino fallen, being a new country.
You sound like Limmy trying to say "purple burglar alarm" 😂
I wouldn’t mind it splitting again. It’s too big. Though if there’s any country that NEEDS to split, it’s Russia.
it wont split and if you ask darfur people if they want to declare independence, they will say no because they know that some countrys want sudan to collapse. If they did voting on if they want to split, they are gonna cheat the votes and make it 99% yes because they want sudan to collapse.
why?
@@Remake5182 Apparently it's "because it's too big". Like wtf kinda reason is that lmao. I wonder if they think the US should split too.
Russia's not splitting, most of the area it covers is sparsely inhabited.
The US needs to split as well, China will do that for west soon don't worry 🤣
That’s not how countries work my guy
There is a small mistake. The western part of North Sudan may not be arab, but it is still muslim - not christian.
Non Muslim majority are in the splitter up south Sudan .
Darfur are Muslim majority .
Two mistakes.
1. Both the Arabs and Africans are Muslim. There are Christians on both sides that is the Nubian Copts in Northern Sudan and some of the Nuba of South Kordofan but overall Christians are a minority in Sudan.
2. The map implies Africans live in the West and the Arabs in Eastern Sudan, the reality is more complex. Blue Nile for example is shown in the map to be inhabited by Arabs. Blue Nile is literally the least Arab region in Sudan. The Africans there, despite being "nominally" Muslim actually wanted to join South Sudan because they still strongly adhere to their Nilotic traditions. Unfortunately the "Popular Consultations "that were to take place in both Blue Nile and Kordofan in 2011 never happened and in fact the former governor of Blue Nile Malik Agar is at war with the Sudanese Army since then.
Also, North Kordofan and North Darfur both have Arab majorities (Arab is a relative term, the people there are actually just Arabized Africans like the Misseriya and Zaghawa) while South Darfur and South Kordofan have African majorities though South Darfurians are members of the Fur tribe and are Muslim while the South Kordofan majority are Nubans who include a large Christian community.
Only 90s kids remember when sudan was the largest country in africa.
And 2000's kids
I was born in 2000 and I always knew Sudan but to be quite honest I never heard of South Sudan until 2019 when I started caring about geography they didn't even teach us about South Sudan in school a lot of people probably don't even know of their existence yet
I was born in 1994 and I remember.
WOW - THANK YOU FOR THIS NEWS UPDATE.
Someone needs to explain to them that diversity is a strength...
Shut up
@@secco1908 support Biafra please.
I love these bloopers
Thanks for trying with the pronunciation! I admit that was pretty funny :)
4:00 Wait, civilian Soldiers?
Slight Correction @ 6:55 - Darfur is still predominately Muslim. I had to look it up just to be sure.
A lot of stupid comments, saying these problems will not occur if not for European colonization. Remove Europe from the 15th century and imagine the continent going independent after WW2, it will be thousands of small nations since they don't know each other every 1 kilometer.
It's like Europe itself in the 14th century AD, made up of small kingdoms (Spain has a lot, and Italy, Germany also).
If India, the Philippines, and Indonesia were never colonized, mind you, it will be hundreds of countries today!!!
No it won't it would be no different from Europe or should Poland be apart of Germany?
For phil, its gonna be just
Kingdom of tondo, sultanate of maguindanao and whatever will be on visayas.
True. But why waste a good scapegoat? 🤷♂️
SOOO this is where hypocrisy and irony meet, should the former soviet nations Ukraine, Estonia, Georgia, Estonia, Belarus, Finland still be part of Russia? Or should Poland still be part of Germany?
Ugh Not Really, Indonesia already Have Majapahit and Various Islamic Sultanate that Unite The Country through ITS Tributary System though they botch the alliance with Sunda Kingdom lol.
Correction,the people in Darfur are black Muslims,not Christians nor traditionalists.
Next time also speak about Nuba Mountains. Also Darfur is majorly an Islamic region not Christianity only Nuba Mountains / South Khordofan is Christianity dominant region. In fact that is the region which has has gone through a lot of wars till today but unfortunately it doesn’t gets a lot of media attention. Nuba Mountains is likely the first and only region to split from Sudan soon.
If they are Christian why Sudan ruling by sheria Islamic low? They better adapt secularism government. If not they must have their owner country.
Arab Muslims aren't the majority of Sudan, they are Black Africans who are arabised and have some small Arab ancestry
03:55
"killing civilian soldiers" errr??
Ah yes the balkanisation of Sudan
Don’t even know the conflict’s details, but I’d definitely assume so.
If you think about it, Europeans artificially made these borders anyway 😂 countries were bound to start splitting up at some point
Africa needs to be split up into at least 50 more new states.
Big facts
if you're not very sophisticated then yes that's how you would think about it.
in reality you're shrugging at dictatorships and genocide, probably as sponsored by certain other autocratic countries.
Yeah but border split alway come with a civil war.
Sudan's borders were created by the Egyptians in the 19th century starting in the 1820s. Dafur resisted and wasnt conquered until the 1870s. So you cant blame the Europeans for this one.
@1:52 the Arabic word written is wrong it should be like this (حمايتي)
well that's not an arabic word, perhaps حاميني or something like this but I can assure you this is no Arabic 1:54
edit: yup they made a mistake, I found this from a BBC article:
وقد أعطى البشير لحميدتي لقب "حمايتي"، بمعنى "الذي يحميني".
so it's حمايتي not حايمت
Native Arab speaker?
It is derived from the Arabic word حامية. So yes, although it is not exactly an Arabic Word they still are correct
maybe its a pun that only works in a specific dialect ?
Sudan has its own "Arabic-inspired" language. They call it "Arabic", but it's not understandable for speakers of other varieties of Arabic
@@d.b.2215 I mean I had a Sudanese friend and we understood each other perfectly, perhaps it is a regional thing, or he simply got that word wrong
1:04 Heeeey you guys got the generals right this time! 🥳 😂
General Gordon tried his best and failed. It is best to leave them to it.
Major-General Charles George Gordon CB
28 January 1833 - 26 January 1885
but he was part of the problem he screwed us all! The British mandate was part of the problem
Let's play find Gordon's head!
Sudan no longer have significate Christian minority( christians are less than 2%), and current war has nothing to do with religion.
The Sudanese conflict is way way bigger than that and you've done a pretty good job in explaining it, but in your explanation it seemed like the remnants on the old regime are the helping hemeti. Please correct that in future videos
Funny thing is Sudan in ancient times was the kingdom of Kush which was a very difficult kingdom to conquer and resisted all foreign invasions from the Assyrians, Persians, Greeks, Romans and Islamic caliphates after they had conquered Egypt. it was only after the collapse of Kush kingdom and the 3 Nubians kingdoms that Arabs made their way to Sudan and started slave trade and oppressing indigenous tribes. tribes like dinka however fought back against Arabs and later against the ottomans Turks and resisted Arabization which made them a target by Muslim north so the fought for seperation. But now Arab sudanese are fighting among themselves and also killing the non Arab Muslims. this is why Sudan has never had peace.
Kinda wish it was all still united but no worries. It shouldn't exist in the frist place snice Africa was shaped by European Empires in 1800s.
The current borders are only still in place because similar to Latin America after independence all the countries in the region signed an agreement to keep the borders intact
@@GwainSagaFanChannel wouldn't say like latin america tbh, chile nicking everyones coastlines comes to mind
@@sonicmeerkat
there's literally a mountain range in between. do not forget.
@@sonicmeerkat brazil took literal territory of every single one of its neighbour
Edit: also Chile is an underdog story since it always was smaller than its neighbours while you expect small countries to be co quered and cease to exist
Find out who is paying for RSF weaponry and you find out the source of the problem.
EU, Russia, Libya, problem solved, the EU supports RSF militarily and financially to stop immigrants from entering Europe, Sudan has the most African refugees who seek to go to Europe, this channel is heavily biased and won't show you this
@dannytallmage2409 Thing is they failed, majority of the refugees who left aren't actually Sudanese, those 700k who went to Chad aren't Sudanese, those 300k who went to Egypt aren't Sudanese, Sudan houses millions of refugees, those refugees would pay traffickers thousands $ for a boat ride from Libya to either Italy or Spain. All the EU did is bring the refugees closer and closer to Europe, instead of containing the problem they brought the problem closer and closer, good luck to the EU trying to bribe Chad others who now host the refugees. 🤣
Unintentionally they are increasing the longevity of this war though.
They are just getting natural borders, it was bound to happen. Colonial borders are the reasons for many of the problems of Africa imo.
That bad part no country are willing to give up land without a fight In today world.
@@khanhnguyen-tt3ff M8, you should read a history book. The past is not as reasonable and understanding as you think. People died in a war for much less.
@@ToneyCrimson yeah and there are rare case in history where a country willing to give up land without a wars, and their no stopping the home country of waging another war to reclaim lost territory.
Yes, please!
Everyone says drawing up borders by Europeans without considering tribal structures has destroyed Africa. Everyone says resolving ethnic conflicts and letting countries break apart is destroying Africa. I wonder if thinking in tribal structures isn't actually what's destroying Africa.
As a general rule: if you try to form a new country because you don't like the rulers family and he doesn't care much for yours, ask yourself: will my new country have a port on the ocean or in fact lose access to international trade? If the answer is no port, then reconsider your position
Jesus, imagine having to flee to South Sudan 😳
Jesus is a fictional characters who never existed.
@@anthonymarlowe6986 It's a figure of speech, edgelord
Like Allah fictional imaginary been characters who never existed. Never ever speak for itself to the people's of the world of reality but only in people's heads always in there's heads. I say beens sarcastically instead of beings extraordinary claims require evidence l bet you live in England.
Sudan as an modern entity was created by Egypt in the early 1800s when the Egyptians attempted to colonise Africa.
They occupied the Nile up to Ethiopia then lost and got colonised themselves by the British.
At that point Sudan became an Anglo-Egyptian condominium.
The British empire eventually declines. Egypt gains its independence, Sudan gains their later with all the territories that Egypt conquered in the 1800s (ie up to Ethiopia).
Various peoples of Sudan began to fight for their independence. Khartoum fought to keep those people under it’s thumb. This goes on for a few decades and devolves into various genocides.
Around this time osama bin Ladin was living in Sudan and starts attacking the USA ending with 9/11.
Sudan depots bin Ladin to Afghanistan but this still draws the ire of the Americans who use their global influence to spilt Sudan in two while they were busy invading Iraq, Afghanistan etc.
This leads to South Sudan achieving its independence after 200 years of occupation first by the Egyptian, then British, then Anglo-Egyptians, then Sudanese.
But the American did not really care about or understand Sudan so they peaced out when they split South Sudan from the north but in reality there are other regions of Sudan that exist in the same situation as South Sudan and the quintessential example is Darfur.
Darfur is a historic African Country that first dates back to the Daju kingdom that dates back to the 12 century.
They split the country on purpose. It’s not that the USA didn’t care. They did care. They wanted to divide & conquer & take the resources.
Good video but I'd like to point out that this isn't a religious issue. It's a ethno-racial issue between the nilotic peoples on Dafur (related to south Sudanese) and the Arabs in the majority of Sudan
Will Sudan change name? Like east Sudan, west Sudan and South Sudan?? Or will it be just west Sudan, South Sudan and Sudan?
the new country would probably just be called Darfur
I made a joke about this years ago.
I propose calling it "Newdan".
Sure the borders and countries the colonial powers made up are not perfect but I just dont get what makes so Impossible for them to live with other ethnicities or religions.
Splitting every ex colony into new countries by ethnic and religious lines would lead to hundreds of little countries that would never get any power. So the small countries would try to take over the others and we would end up with the same exact thing
Europeans caused 2 world wars and multiple cold wars caused they hated each other.
So this is exactly what was supposed to happen naturally. Even more 80 years ago. But europeans keep meddling in everything.
That actually kinda makes sense. Splitting the country into 3 or 4 smaller countries would not solve the endemic issue of tribalism that exists across the region. I mean, by the logic Somali should be the most stable and prosperous country in Africa seeing how homogenous it is. But unfortunately that is not the case, what happens instead is people fought over their clans within the same ethnic group.
The entirety of Africa has to have some sort of split theirs literally tribes that hate eachother living in the exact same country
*I don't have a huge grasp on African geopolitical stuff, but I'm pretty sure that was it basically.*
*The non-Muslim southerners felt oppressed or at least not cared for by the Muslim policy makers.*
*They had a civil war for 10-15 years I think.*
*I know Sudan has a lot of oil, but not sure how they're splitting that up.*
*The South will need that to build their country up.*
*Again this is just from what I can remember 10-12 years ago when their Civil War was wrapping up so I'm probably wrong on a few points.*
The US sent the UN solely for personal interests, in the world of Geopolitics there are no permanent friends but there are permanent interests, I'm sure you should obviously know how the US is crazy about the almighty OIL, the ripped the middle east apart and are now doing the same in Africa, South Sudan was the beginning, then it was Libya........
South Sudan government is in shambles and they’re in a civil war far worse than the one in Sudan
I recommend watching a vice documentary called inside darfur. Lots of paramilitary group like the wagner group raid villages take land from the sudanesses set up oil plants and hire international to work there while the natives live in poverty
USA's decisions seem increasingly troubling too, as well as Ruissa's (obviously). So my question is why target China specificly? The question come from a bias perspective.
It's an ad, LOL. Dont take it too seriously .
Because the video is about China? Not America or Russia.
@@kurousagi8155 the video is about Sudan
@@CaptainKram the video the ad is referencing is about China.
Because they are scared of china. Be proud if you're chinese.
I can't wait for east, west, north, and central sudan
Central Sudan might end up renaming itself to its original name before European colonist arrived in Africa. At least that what I read in an earlier comment
I'm all for helping people who are in need, but why is it that no one mentions these countries that have war, and yet everyone is talking about Ukraine? Is it because all they care about is their interest and they don't give a f about the Ukrainians or the Sudanese?
Its because thats what the media covers
It probably feels more relevant for European and North American news outlets. Sudan falling into two won't threaten the lively hoods of any Germans, but Ukraine falling will.
african conflicts are insignificant on the world stage. not to say these conflicts shouldnt be covered in the news
I feel like its because Ukraine is fighting the largest war in Europe since WW2 against a nuclear superpower. And sudan is just some country in Africa having yet another civil war. Its nothing new and the stakes are not as high by far. People are way to quick to draw the race card while there are so many other factors at play.
Because Ukraine is an important food supplier in Eastern Europe. Means Right infront of Western countries and media
Not to mention, Russia is involved, which has always been a great power in Western conflicts compared to Sudan, which is ultimately something not in the mind of Western auidance , Dosent effect them what's so ever , and Not even remotely close to any of it culturely /geographly or politically , to most people in the west Sudan is a civil war generating failed state at most or baiscly unheard of at worst
And since the Western world pretty much controls the media foucs, You will baiscly never hear about Sudan, Ethiopia, Oman , etc etc. .
"which has ended up killing civilian soldiers"
What