I hope that if Karen Gillan ever finds herself having self-confidence issues for whatever reason, she remembers that her hotness almost destroyed the universe.
If I remember right, weren't the Reapers also described as basically like scavengers? They had to actively seek out paradoxes and things like that to prey on, but aren't an actual rule of the universe or anything. Just like say, a random vulture in the US isn't gonna be suddenly aware there's a dead animal to eat over in Canada.
That sounds right... opportunistic scavengers that aren't always present when a paradox occurs. Also, I thought reapers only show up when someone crosses their own time stream to affect significant change to a fixed event, and then only because Time Lords weren't around to intervene.
I know you guys discussed it but I'll just clarify if any of you are still unsure. (How I think the reapers work that is) The reapers appeared in the rose episode because time played out one way and then they immediately went back in time and changed it. With how time works in Doctor who, once you see/read/do anything once it basically becomes fixed, that's why the doctor doesn't go back in time to places where he failed to save someone in the past and then try to fit it, because he has already seen it and so is now fixed. He can go to places where he hasn't been to before, but can only affect that particular "time" once. He can visit it again, but not change anything. So when rose interacted with herself she changed fixed time essentially. That's why the reapers came. Every other instance (that I can think of) when the doctor and gang interacted with themselves, it was always meant to happen that way. If the doctor met a past self and then had an adventure that would be fine. But if he then went back in time again and tried to do the same adventure with the two past selves, he'd be changing fixed time, and that would be a case where the reapers would appear. Also side note: reapers wouldn't always appear I don't think anyway, how I remember the doctor explained them was that they were like an infection/virus/etc.. from another dimension, and when fixed time gets broken, they slip in from this other dimension through the skin of the universe. So if they're not around a certain place they may not even appear. Who knows it's all timey wimey.... Hope that helps, and hope I haven't just confused everyone even more... Which is a possibility 😂😂
I personally never got: 'Earthshock.' Why couldn't: 'The Doctor,' have gone back in time to save: 'Adric?' They never saw him die. All they saw was the ship exploding, with information, he was last seen still on it. They could have just materialized, in the space-ship, right before it exploded, grabbed him and left, and nothing would have changed, for their past selves.
carealoo744 The Doctor can sense fixed points. Maybe he knew that that’s how it had to go? Even if it didn’t change their timelines, it still could’ve changed someone else’s. Butterfly effect and all that. Timey Wimey.
Time Reaper is because she went back on HER OWN TIMELINE AND SAVED SOMEONE WHO AFFECTED HER OWN PERSONAL TIMELINE. Just walking by doesn't do anything.
I have a simple explanation for how he did that wibbly lever thing. Supposedly according to quantum physics every choice that can happen does and will happen, and our looking back at events is "survivor's bias". Meaning there's a few hundred universes in which they failed and imploded and we're just seeing the one where they succeeded.
That's how I've always seen it. We only see the version that pulled the wibbly lever. Maybe he pulled EVERY SINGLE ONE and only the one that worked went back and told himself. Basically a more confusing version of what you so eloquently put.
This in fact is just one _interpretation_ of quantum physics, now popularly known as the "many worlds" interpretation (though the guy who came up with it, Hugh Everett III, called it the "relative state" interpretation). We don't know if it's actually true and it's worth saying that though it's gaining in popularity, most physicists currently _don't_ subscribe to this interpretation (the traditional view, called the Copenhagen interpretation, is probably still the most popular although what amounts to basically _no_ interpretation, or effectively just ignoring the question, sometimes called "shut-up and calculate" is up there too - there are many different ways to interpret what the mathematical formalism of quantum physics actually _means_ for reality, "many worlds" is just one).
It is the one interpretation that fits with what was asked and discussed in the reaction video. The rest brings in facts that were not a part of the initial discussion. That is why I stated what I did, in response to the video this was/is the best answer.
Tazmon Sims It fits what happens in "Space" and "Time" but it actually _doesn't_ fit the rest of 'Doctor Who' in my view - the show has characters moving into the past of _their own_ universe (creating branches in "many worlds"' universal wave function in the process, if that were true in the show) and then moving back to _their own_ present or future. AFAIK we're never told at any time that they're actually jumping around in some subset of infinite universes or that changes they make won't affect the future because effectively _all_ possible futures occur anyway - in fact we're told the exact opposite _many_ times ("ripples, tidal waves" etc.). That said, my main issue (and what I was really responding to) was with the OP's claim that "Supposedly according to quantum physics every choice that can happen does and will happen..." because that's just not true (I wish it were, that what quantum physics _meant_ was a settled question but it's _really_ not).
This is the single most relatable series of episodes doctor who has ever made. And I mean that I can somehow relate to all three characters actions, I could see myself as any of them.
The reapers were a mistake on RTD's and writer Paul Cornell's part. That episode acted as if Classic era Doctor Who never happened, and the rest of the Revived era acted as though it did, continuing with the rules which had been set out prior to 'Fathers Day'; in that, paradoxes can occur without some weird parasites appearing. It's better to just forget the rules that 'Fathers Day' tried to introduce because they don't work with the rest of Who Lore. Stephen Moffat has stated himself he began making Doctor Who episodes for Doctor Who fans, rather than casual audiences, and so his stories would adhere to Classic Era time travel and paradoxes - that's why we never saw the reapers again, because they were fuckin stupid.
I want the reapers to come back solely so that they can explain more clearly what they do. Companion: "You've encountered paradoxes before, why is it here now?" Doctor: "They're scavengers, not police. Whenever they appear, they don't care that it's a paradox; they care that they've found a meal."
I much prefer the minisode before Season 6 that ends with the Doctor and Amy going off to get ice cream at a night time fairground. Think it's called Good Night. Very emotional and well written.
It's getting saucy love the reactions of "lunch?!" and Calvin getting flustered with Amy.. although, it was Rory who nearly destroyed the universe with his roving eyes and not Amy. Just saying. Love the reactions lads. 👍😊
The Time Reapers 1. They don't always appear. You don't always get an infection when your skin breaks, neither would the Reapers always appear after time breaks. 2. Rose saving her dad was more that altering a fixed point, messing with your personal timeline, or creating a paradox. She did all three, which I'd guess made that specific wound a metaphysical gusher. 3. They were hunted to extinction off-screen, in a comic or something.
Here's the thing about time reapers. They came cause Rose saved her dad from dying. Dad that was Dead throughout most of her life. So basically a guy that was supposed to be gone from 1 point till the rest of her life was still there. That's kinda it
And here's the thing paradoxes acts differently every time they happen in Doctor Who and that actually makes sense because why would the absence and breaking of logic follow any kind of internal logic
You've got to go watch the two part mini episodes First Nigh Last Night as well. They do have something with something later on in a later season. What that is, you'll find out, but so many overlook them. There's also the Rain gods mini episode which was more just a funny little clip between Matt and River.
Dear Blind Wave, please react to the mini series Over the garden wall. It's such an amazing (and underrated) show and I think you would enjoy it. Thanks ^^
Fuck I miss matt smith as the doctor, forgot how good some of his episodes are with the pandorica, imposisble astronaut and just the whole river song story.
ooooo I love these shorts happy they are doing them Please tell me episode 1 of the next season is coming out as well... It is my favourite season! If not, I'm good. Just have to wait another week. :/
Ik this is old but I'm a big whovian the reapers aren't necessarily a causation of a paradox itself there scavenger beings that take advantage of paradoxs who live in the void wait for opportunity to feed on paradox's in all universes so they don't have to show up every time there beings that can show up in multiple universe that have paradox's that happened / never happened. A bit timey wimey Wibbly wobbly 😂 but yeah that's why they don't show up every time just see them as vultures of time. something dies in the wild but vulture dont always show up.
You know, Rory looking up her skirt is one thing on its own. But I’ve always felt it enhanced, because you just _KNOW_ that Amy, of all people…goes the true Scottish way.
Huh, never thought you guys watched the show with subtitles. I can say from experience that if you watch just a couple episodes without subtitles, you'll get used to it pretty quick. I mean I got used to it and I'm German so English isn't even my native language.
They have a time With Matt Smith's accent and Karren Gillan's Scottish Accent... well they would have zero chance with me being somewhere right between.
it amuses me that they as native speakers have trouble with the accents... like, English is my second language and I never lived in an English speaking country and DW is pretty ok without subs. XD (though erik excluded cause of his def ear impairment.)
@@vlonewolfv 100% agreed. I don't love Moffat, but I don't hate him like a lot of people do either. Moffat is frustrating more than anything because we all know how amazing he can be. Moffat gave us amazing highs like Heaven Sent, The Day of the Doctor and the series 10 finale, but that only made the bad stuff like Hell Bent even more infuriating. It was always up and down with him. So often he got in his own way. He's amazing at the set ups, like in series 6, but by the end it fell completely flat because he over-complicated it so much. However, there's still a lot to be admired in Moffat's era, it certainly wasn't all bad. I do miss the consistency of the RTD era though, hopefully Chibnall can bring it back.
I hope that if Karen Gillan ever finds herself having self-confidence issues for whatever reason, she remembers that her hotness almost destroyed the universe.
Or Rory's stupidness did. He could also try and pay attention to what he's doing.
@@AnnekeOosterink To be fair, it was Amy's hotness that caused Rory's stupidity
It wasn't Rory's fault that Amy caused a neuron activation in his brain.
@@Fowlplay141yes it is
If I remember right, weren't the Reapers also described as basically like scavengers? They had to actively seek out paradoxes and things like that to prey on, but aren't an actual rule of the universe or anything. Just like say, a random vulture in the US isn't gonna be suddenly aware there's a dead animal to eat over in Canada.
Yeah, they fed off the paradox and had to actually travel to find it. They don't just appear as though the universe is trying to correct itself...
Assuming they even exist anymore after the universe reset itself.
Nexis and in a comic it explains they were hunted off
That sounds right... opportunistic scavengers that aren't always present when a paradox occurs. Also, I thought reapers only show up when someone crosses their own time stream to affect significant change to a fixed event, and then only because Time Lords weren't around to intervene.
I kind of assumed they don’t show up in paradoxes like this because the paradox was meant to occur
The Impossible Astronaut..THIS IS WHERE IT GETS VERY COMPLICATED, SPOILERS!
The opening part with them, I just immediately think of Matt Smith going, "Is this what waiting normally feels like? I don't like it..."
So there’s this man, he has a time machine....
Who wrote Beethoven's Fifth!
I know you guys discussed it but I'll just clarify if any of you are still unsure. (How I think the reapers work that is)
The reapers appeared in the rose episode because time played out one way and then they immediately went back in time and changed it.
With how time works in Doctor who, once you see/read/do anything once it basically becomes fixed, that's why the doctor doesn't go back in time to places where he failed to save someone in the past and then try to fit it, because he has already seen it and so is now fixed.
He can go to places where he hasn't been to before, but can only affect that particular "time" once. He can visit it again, but not change anything.
So when rose interacted with herself she changed fixed time essentially. That's why the reapers came.
Every other instance (that I can think of) when the doctor and gang interacted with themselves, it was always meant to happen that way.
If the doctor met a past self and then had an adventure that would be fine.
But if he then went back in time again and tried to do the same adventure with the two past selves, he'd be changing fixed time, and that would be a case where the reapers would appear.
Also side note: reapers wouldn't always appear I don't think anyway, how I remember the doctor explained them was that they were like an infection/virus/etc.. from another dimension, and when fixed time gets broken, they slip in from this other dimension through the skin of the universe. So if they're not around a certain place they may not even appear.
Who knows it's all timey wimey....
Hope that helps, and hope I haven't just confused everyone even more... Which is a possibility 😂😂
That's a great explanation !
You can't change something that you already experienced. You can't interact with your past self without first interacting with your future self.
Everything was fine until Rose touched herself as a baby. Then 9th explained about the reavers
I personally never got: 'Earthshock.' Why couldn't: 'The Doctor,' have gone back in time to save: 'Adric?' They never saw him die. All they saw was the ship exploding, with information, he was last seen still on it. They could have just materialized, in the space-ship, right before it exploded, grabbed him and left, and nothing would have changed, for their past selves.
carealoo744
The Doctor can sense fixed points. Maybe he knew that that’s how it had to go? Even if it didn’t change their timelines, it still could’ve changed someone else’s. Butterfly effect and all that. Timey Wimey.
Time Reaper is because she went back on HER OWN TIMELINE AND SAVED SOMEONE WHO AFFECTED HER OWN PERSONAL TIMELINE. Just walking by doesn't do anything.
I have a simple explanation for how he did that wibbly lever thing. Supposedly according to quantum physics every choice that can happen does and will happen, and our looking back at events is "survivor's bias". Meaning there's a few hundred universes in which they failed and imploded and we're just seeing the one where they succeeded.
This is the answer, well stated and well explained on your part (not trying to be a smartass, this was really well stated)
That's how I've always seen it. We only see the version that pulled the wibbly lever. Maybe he pulled EVERY SINGLE ONE and only the one that worked went back and told himself.
Basically a more confusing version of what you so eloquently put.
This in fact is just one _interpretation_ of quantum physics, now popularly known as the "many worlds" interpretation (though the guy who came up with it, Hugh Everett III, called it the "relative state" interpretation). We don't know if it's actually true and it's worth saying that though it's gaining in popularity, most physicists currently _don't_ subscribe to this interpretation (the traditional view, called the Copenhagen interpretation, is probably still the most popular although what amounts to basically _no_ interpretation, or effectively just ignoring the question, sometimes called "shut-up and calculate" is up there too - there are many different ways to interpret what the mathematical formalism of quantum physics actually _means_ for reality, "many worlds" is just one).
It is the one interpretation that fits with what was asked and discussed in the reaction video. The rest brings in facts that were not a part of the initial discussion. That is why I stated what I did, in response to the video this was/is the best answer.
Tazmon Sims It fits what happens in "Space" and "Time" but it actually _doesn't_ fit the rest of 'Doctor Who' in my view - the show has characters moving into the past of _their own_ universe (creating branches in "many worlds"' universal wave function in the process, if that were true in the show) and then moving back to _their own_ present or future. AFAIK we're never told at any time that they're actually jumping around in some subset of infinite universes or that changes they make won't affect the future because effectively _all_ possible futures occur anyway - in fact we're told the exact opposite _many_ times ("ripples, tidal waves" etc.).
That said, my main issue (and what I was really responding to) was with the OP's claim that "Supposedly according to quantum physics every choice that can happen does and will happen..." because that's just not true (I wish it were, that what quantum physics _meant_ was a settled question but it's _really_ not).
"We pirated this" xD
I wonder if the Black Sails music will be used in a certain episode's reaction of the next season.
This is the single most relatable series of episodes doctor who has ever made. And I mean that I can somehow relate to all three characters actions, I could see myself as any of them.
Flirting with yourself looking up someone's skirt with the glass floor and just being eternally tired of other people's horniness
It really is quite amusing watching you guys try to impose some sort of consistent logic to the DW universe ☺, just relax and enjoy the ride!🚀
tell that to the lack of time reapers in any other episodes besides their initial appearance.
The reapers were a mistake on RTD's and writer Paul Cornell's part. That episode acted as if Classic era Doctor Who never happened, and the rest of the Revived era acted as though it did, continuing with the rules which had been set out prior to 'Fathers Day'; in that, paradoxes can occur without some weird parasites appearing. It's better to just forget the rules that 'Fathers Day' tried to introduce because they don't work with the rest of Who Lore. Stephen Moffat has stated himself he began making Doctor Who episodes for Doctor Who fans, rather than casual audiences, and so his stories would adhere to Classic Era time travel and paradoxes - that's why we never saw the reapers again, because they were fuckin stupid.
@@Mr_M_
Nope. It takes complex triple paradox to make reapers appear.
I want the reapers to come back solely so that they can explain more clearly what they do.
Companion: "You've encountered paradoxes before, why is it here now?"
Doctor: "They're scavengers, not police. Whenever they appear, they don't care that it's a paradox; they care that they've found a meal."
“The impossible astronaut” ok kids this is where it gets complicated
Fixed points in time can't be messed with, Rose's Dad dying is a fixed point that caused a continous loop with the car trying to correct itself.. 😉
The TARDIS in a TARDIS happened to me one time while playing LEGO Dimensions, lol.
Ha! I love that you have the "You Are a Pirate" song from Lazy Town at the end!
Trapped with two Amy Ponds. I could live with that.
I much prefer the minisode before Season 6 that ends with the Doctor and Amy going off to get ice cream at a night time fairground. Think it's called Good Night. Very emotional and well written.
Not before, during
It's getting saucy love the reactions of "lunch?!" and Calvin getting flustered with Amy.. although, it was Rory who nearly destroyed the universe with his roving eyes and not Amy. Just saying. Love the reactions lads. 👍😊
The Time Reapers
1. They don't always appear. You don't always get an infection when your skin breaks, neither would the Reapers always appear after time breaks.
2. Rose saving her dad was more that altering a fixed point, messing with your personal timeline, or creating a paradox. She did all three, which I'd guess made that specific wound a metaphysical gusher.
3. They were hunted to extinction off-screen, in a comic or something.
Also literally anything can happen with a paradox it's a paradox why would it be logical it's the literal breaking of logic
@@plantainsame2049 True, but the lead-up to a paradox should at least try to make sense.
Here's the thing about time reapers. They came cause Rose saved her dad from dying. Dad that was Dead throughout most of her life. So basically a guy that was supposed to be gone from 1 point till the rest of her life was still there. That's kinda it
I suppose that makes the paradox more apparent (like a larger more noticeable wound in time) so the reapers could sense it from a while away.
And here's the thing paradoxes acts differently every time they happen in Doctor Who and that actually makes sense because why would the absence and breaking of logic follow any kind of internal logic
Love that you are doing all the minisodes aswell.
You've got to go watch the two part mini episodes First Nigh Last Night as well. They do have something with something later on in a later season. What that is, you'll find out, but so many overlook them. There's also the Rain gods mini episode which was more just a funny little clip between Matt and River.
they are called minisodes. Sometimes the minisodes are a small amount of info to help solve questions from seasons.
Dear Blind Wave, please react to the mini series Over the garden wall. It's such an amazing (and underrated) show and I think you would enjoy it. Thanks ^^
Yes! I love these mini-sodes!
I love how pissed Eric gets when it's not a normal next episode ^^
I was patiently awaiting you guys to break into the old Baby Shark song during that elegant silence.
I've always loved these two
Fuck I miss matt smith as the doctor, forgot how good some of his episodes are with the pandorica, imposisble astronaut and just the whole river song story.
ooooo I love these shorts happy they are doing them
Please tell me episode 1 of the next season is coming out as well... It is my favourite season! If not, I'm good. Just have to wait another week. :/
0:50 it was pretty good :D
That rhythm playing off the dalek though!
Rory and I had the same idea when the two Amy's showed up.... both of us dirty minded lol...and the skirt thing
I have no idea how I missed these!
Watch the goodnight bad night shorts! There’s like 5
Silence is coming!
Amy pond I think is also nebula in guardians of the Galaxy.
Love fhat outro music.
I love this little mini sode
still tryna find out where tf their setup is from looking at the studio tours they've shown us
Ik this is old but I'm a big whovian the reapers aren't necessarily a causation of a paradox itself there scavenger beings that take advantage of paradoxs who live in the void wait for opportunity to feed on paradox's in all universes so they don't have to show up every time there beings that can show up in multiple universe that have paradox's that happened / never happened. A bit timey wimey Wibbly wobbly 😂 but yeah that's why they don't show up every time just see them as vultures of time. something dies in the wild but vulture dont always show up.
JESUS Eric is so red!!! He seriously should make sure he doesnt have a blocked artery or anything like that !
That was fun ..Amy will flirt with anyone but Rory ..even herself!!.
Reapers only show up after a single fixed point is disrupted
You know, Rory looking up her skirt is one thing on its own. But I’ve always felt it enhanced, because you just _KNOW_ that Amy, of all people…goes the true Scottish way.
lol that tardis inside a tardis problem happened to me in gmod
Huh, never thought you guys watched the show with subtitles. I can say from experience that if you watch just a couple episodes without subtitles, you'll get used to it pretty quick. I mean I got used to it and I'm German so English isn't even my native language.
One thing I don't understand, why you guys watch the minisodes from this series, but not the tardisodes from earlier seasons?
Why did you guys have to pirate this? Isn't it on RUclips, having been uploaded by BBC?
Sophie Filo yes it is
I'm just excited for the Flash :"D
Why do you need subtitles to understand them?
Bag of Holding!! Exactly!!
0:59 Blind Wave breaks into the music industry?
They have a time With Matt Smith's accent and Karren Gillan's Scottish Accent... well they would have zero chance with me being somewhere right between.
Probably didn't need to pirate, I'm pretty sure these are on RUclips lol
Why is this just showing up in my subscription box now? Is that like an error or something?
I think reapers only appear, if a fixed point in time is broken.
Dudes.
You are going to want to run through season 6. HURRY UP!!
Did they watch Mr Bean as the Doctor yet?
Omg how have I never seen this xD
It should be Time and Space, I agree. Never saw these shorts btw. Very cool.
it amuses me that they as native speakers have trouble with the accents... like, English is my second language and I never lived in an English speaking country and DW is pretty ok without subs. XD (though erik excluded cause of his def ear impairment.)
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Anyone else find these minisodes kinda sexist? I hate the whole 'Amy put some clothes on' idea, it's some of Moffat's worst habits
Please react to the Dragon Prince and Voltron
VOLTRON!
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉😂😮😅 0:22
First minute, just some guys hitting stuff with other stuff?
Noooo I was hoping for season 6 ep 1 not this. :(
xSniperx Ashx15 double treat!
Possibly the least apologetic sorry I have ever heard on TV.
4th like
This is organisations it's spoiling i hate when people watch it then watch it again and call it a reactiom
Steven Moffat is a genius!!!!!!! Heaven Sent and Blink are masterpieces
Russell T Davies sucks, and End of Time is the worst modern who story!
Have you been hacked?
No why should I be? I'm just pointing out how good of a writer Moffat is.
@@justsomerandomguyonline2784 😂😂 Sure 👍
I don't know why people are making a big deal when I praise Moffat
@@vlonewolfv 100% agreed. I don't love Moffat, but I don't hate him like a lot of people do either. Moffat is frustrating more than anything because we all know how amazing he can be. Moffat gave us amazing highs like Heaven Sent, The Day of the Doctor and the series 10 finale, but that only made the bad stuff like Hell Bent even more infuriating. It was always up and down with him. So often he got in his own way. He's amazing at the set ups, like in series 6, but by the end it fell completely flat because he over-complicated it so much. However, there's still a lot to be admired in Moffat's era, it certainly wasn't all bad. I do miss the consistency of the RTD era though, hopefully Chibnall can bring it back.
Nice music choice Lono I didn't get it at first but well done lol
Haha, cause they pirated it. Well played