You don’t have to Toque the suppressor onto the muzzle device? I shot mine for the first time and after a mag in F/A it had loosened. So I torqued it for the second time
5:38 I do it the other way around - I place a flashlight in the upper and put a piece of paper or paper plate in front of the muzzle and check that it's a perfect circle.
If I have a can I want to basically leave on a specific rifle permanently, do you still recommend I constantly take it off to clean the brake and taper mount of the can?
Absolutely, I run the Recce 7 on both of my 223 rifles using 1/2x28 ( 5.56 ) taper mounts. It works perfectly as the taper interface for both the Recce 5 and the Recce 7 are the same. Bonus is that if you ever get a Recce 5 later your current mounts will work.
If I have a plan a micro brake tucked 5” inside my hand guard, is there any way I can get a fake can that has a plan a to use when the suppressors not on the gun?
I find my muzzle devices never really seem to come shiny clean after shooting a lot with my Paladin. I’ve tried a few different solutions. Any recommendations? What does the Griffin team use? Thanks!
Is the taper mount a pretty solid lockup without an additional ratcheting lock mechanism? Does it vibrate loose more? I love Griffin stuff but am curious about the security of this lockup.
So I have 2 EZ Brakes (one came with one of my Griffin Suppressors) and one Taper Mount Flash Hider. I have the Griffin Armorers Wrench. I also have the wrench that came with my suppressor. Idk why the EZ brakes don’t have two flat sides like the flash hider. I have to buy an extra tool. On top of the armorers wrench I bought from you guys thinking it would work on the EZ brake. Is there a reason why there isn’t a flat side on the EZ Brakes?
Joey Charron they’re available now! The design in the video which evan mentions as being updated is in reference to a product update we did on the flashcomp a couple years back (2-3 years ago)
The muzzle device should have a cut out on the bottom that you can use one of our Bushwhacker or Armorers wrenches to break the flash hider from the adapter. This typically only happens when the muzzle device isn't torqued to the proper 35 - 45 ft/lbs spec. You can also Rocksett your device if you don't plan to remove it.
How would one keep the minimlist brake from sticking in the taper mount on a optimius can. Would a grease or anti seize be good. I'm having issues on a 300blk AR
Regular interface cleaning (both the mount and silencer interface), after every range trip along with a light coat of the Horse Jipe 2300 on the thread and taper surfaces should prevent any sort of sticking!
@@GriffinArmamentOfficialbrake is under the hand guard so I can't really get at that too easy but it can clean the mount side. Is there a similar product I could use besides that specific antiseize? Thanks
Using your taper mount system on an optimus is it necessary to shoot a few shots and then re-tighten before going into larger volumes of fire? Similar to what one may do with a direct thread? Also after a large volume of fire after the sequence of events described above, would it be necessary to retighten the suppressor after it has a chance to cool down but before a subsequent large volume of fire begins? Thanks!
@@MYUSERNAME273 When you seat the taper mount properly (its a semi-locking taper meaning it requires more torque to loosen than it does to tighten) it will not back off while shooting. You should let the silencer cool to ambient temp before removing and checking tightness between longer strings of fire is never a bad thing!
Apologies for the simple question that was answered in the video but I just to make sure. I am installing the taper mount paladin 2 port brake in 6.5 creedmoor, the griffin logo is to be clocked at the 6 o'clock position (bottom) correct?
DO you have anything for Cali. everything on your product page says flash this flash that. I want something for bayonet ( 10 rounds go fast ) and maybe a blast can that all we can do in calif
Can a plan a taper mount adapter be ran on a 10.5” ar upper? Right now my optimus is a mile long off the end (with the 300 wm blast baffle) and I’m looking for the shortest possible mount
For our taper mountable suppressors such as the Recces, Paladins, Explorrs, the EZ Brake just screws onto your barrel and then the suppressor can be mounted on the muzzle device. For the Bushwhacker 46, the suppressor needs to be in the Plan A configuration (necessary parts for configuration are included with suppressor). For the Optimus 9, the suppressor needs to be in the Midsize or Taper Mount configuration (necessary parts for configuration are included with suppressor). If you're wanting to run the Optimus Micro on a taper mount, you'd need to purchase the Optimus Micro Taper Mount Interface as well as the desired taper mount as the Optimus Micro does not ship with the necessary parts to run in the taper mount configuration.
If the stuck taper mount is one of our newer style, it will have a slot in the back of the device. We do offer three tools that can interface with this slot. These tools are the GI Armorers Wrench Bushwhacker Wrench and the Mount Adapter Driver. These tools would be used by putting the wrench or driver into a bench vise and then placing the suppressor with stuck taper mount muzzle device over the tool. From there, you can simply unscrew the Plan A Adapter from the mount. The Plan A Adapters will either use the a standard AR15 Carbine Stock Wrench, Bushwhacker Wrench, or a 32mm open ended wrench. If this method is ineffective or you do not have either of these tools on hand, you can try a method using Loctite and a strap wrench. To remove the muzzle device with this method, you will need to apply a liberal amount of red thread locker (preferably Loctite 272) to the barrel threads. Screw the plan a/muzzle device onto the barrel as hand tight as possible. Let the thread locker set up for about thirty minutes. At that time you should be able to remove the Plan A adapter from the muzzle device, to add even better leverage we suggest the aid of a strap wrench or correct tool listed above. Once the Plan A Adapter has been removed from the muzzle device, remove the muzzle device with a standard wrench. Clean the threads thoroughly and reinstall the muzzle device to the proper torque spec (45 ft/lbs for 5/8 or other and 35 ft/lbs for 1/2x28). If the muzzle device is carbon locked onto the plan a adapter, soaking in a penetrating oil can assist in removing it. We have found Kroil to be very effective. If neither of the methods are effective, please let us know and we can issue you an RMA to send your adapter and muzzle device in under warranty.
Where can I find an open wrench like the one you use with your torque wrench to install my 1/2x28 and 5/8x24 minimalist breaks? I have never seen anything like what you are using and wouldn’t even know what to call it? Thanks!
What muzzle device do you have? The logo only goes on muzzle devices that require timing. The Griffin logo should be in the 6 o'clock position when the muzzle device is installed. Flash hiders would not have the logo as they do not require timing
@@GriffinArmamentOfficial I have the taper mount that came in the box. I ordered a Recce 5 from Silencer Shop and just got it in last weekend. The only etching on the mount is the thread demensions. I have it snug on my AR, wasn’t to worried about alignment until I saw this video. Lol
@@RenderElectric if you ordered the Taper Mount EZ Brake and it came with shims, that was an oversight on the packaging/fulfillment team. So now you have extra shims that are not required to mount the device you received.
Kinda wish you guys didn’t make it a pain in the @$$ to tighten the muzzle devices; it’s annoying that only a thin part *in the middle of the suppressor threads and the useless circular back part* is where you tighten it, which means having to order a specialized wrench for it instead of a standard wrench/socket. Seriously though, why is it not on the BACK of the muzzle device?? Poor design choice.
patrickonasis1 we’re not certain what the ID thread pitch is for the rear interface of that can. If it’s the same as other standard pistol can offerings, then our 1.125x28 Plan-A adapter will be compatible.
im just looking to replace my faulty ASR system, whats the best option you got? I want to be able to put a can on my rifle - and shoot - and then move without worrying about my can getting loose - or rocketing it across the earth
Hi there, this sounds like a matter for customer service. Sounds like you're unsatisfied with your purchase. Please reach out to them. cs@griffinarmament.com or they can be reached via phone # (262)200-0003
Where can I find an open wrench like the one you use with your torque wrench to install my 1/2x28 and 5/8x24 minimalist breaks? I have never seen anything like what you are using and wouldn’t even know what to call it? Thanks!
It's called a crowfoot wrench. They come in 1/2" and 3/8" drives. I think most muzzle devices use a 3/4" open end wrench size. Also, there are complete AR crowfoot torch wrench kits. They include the torque wrench and 4 crowfoot wrenches for all of the AR parts.
Where can I find an open wrench like the one you use with your torque wrench to install my 1/2x28 and 5/8x24 minimalist breaks? I have never seen anything like what you are using and wouldn’t even know what to call it? Thanks!
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Wow thanks for this video, there are several lessons here I wish I had been exposed to when I purchased my Optimus.
Just picked up my Paladin today!!!! Thanks for the informative video!!!!
Thanks for your support!
You don’t have to Toque the suppressor onto the muzzle device? I shot mine for the first time and after a mag in F/A it had loosened. So I torqued it for the second time
5:38 I do it the other way around - I place a flashlight in the upper and put a piece of paper or paper plate in front of the muzzle and check that it's a perfect circle.
Is it possible for the suppressor to back off the threads during/after shooting, or is it locked into place once installed?
If I have a can I want to basically leave on a specific rifle permanently, do you still recommend I constantly take it off to clean the brake and taper mount of the can?
If I buy a 5.56 taper mount will a RECCE7 .30 cal can fit right on to the 5.56 taper mount?
Yes.
Absolutely, I run the Recce 7 on both of my 223 rifles using 1/2x28 ( 5.56 ) taper mounts. It works perfectly as the taper interface for both the Recce 5 and the Recce 7 are the same. Bonus is that if you ever get a Recce 5 later your current mounts will work.
What is the armorer's wrench attachment on your needle torque wrench?
That's called a "Crow's Foot".
If I have a plan a micro brake tucked 5” inside my hand guard, is there any way I can get a fake can that has a plan a to use when the suppressors not on the gun?
I find my muzzle devices never really seem to come shiny clean after shooting a lot with my Paladin. I’ve tried a few different solutions. Any recommendations? What does the Griffin team use? Thanks!
Which suppressor is that in the video?
Is the taper mount a pretty solid lockup without an additional ratcheting lock mechanism? Does it vibrate loose more? I love Griffin stuff but am curious about the security of this lockup.
I shoot my recce 5 pretty hard no issues of this
No issues here!
So I have 2 EZ Brakes (one came with one of my Griffin Suppressors) and one Taper Mount Flash Hider. I have the Griffin Armorers Wrench. I also have the wrench that came with my suppressor. Idk why the EZ brakes don’t have two flat sides like the flash hider. I have to buy an extra tool. On top of the armorers wrench I bought from you guys thinking it would work on the EZ brake. Is there a reason why there isn’t a flat side on the EZ Brakes?
When are the updated flash comp going to be for sale on website
Joey Charron they’re available now! The design in the video which evan mentions as being updated is in reference to a product update we did on the flashcomp a couple years back (2-3 years ago)
My minimalist flash hider got stuck to my plan A adapter on the first use. Awesome. Now I have to buy another tool from you?
The muzzle device should have a cut out on the bottom that you can use one of our Bushwhacker or Armorers wrenches to break the flash hider from the adapter. This typically only happens when the muzzle device isn't torqued to the proper 35 - 45 ft/lbs spec. You can also Rocksett your device if you don't plan to remove it.
@ which part of an armorers wrench would I use for that?
How would one keep the minimlist brake from sticking in the taper mount on a optimius can. Would a grease or anti seize be good. I'm having issues on a 300blk AR
Regular interface cleaning (both the mount and silencer interface), after every range trip along with a light coat of the Horse Jipe 2300 on the thread and taper surfaces should prevent any sort of sticking!
@@GriffinArmamentOfficialbrake is under the hand guard so I can't really get at that too easy but it can clean the mount side. Is there a similar product I could use besides that specific antiseize? Thanks
@@brentwinkelman1990 Any High-Temp anti-seize will work (ours is a repackaged industrial product called Lock Cease 20/20).
Using your taper mount system on an optimus is it necessary to shoot a few shots and then re-tighten before going into larger volumes of fire? Similar to what one may do with a direct thread?
Also after a large volume of fire after the sequence of events described above, would it be necessary to retighten the suppressor after it has a chance to cool down but before a subsequent large volume of fire begins? Thanks!
@@MYUSERNAME273 When you seat the taper mount properly (its a semi-locking taper meaning it requires more torque to loosen than it does to tighten) it will not back off while shooting. You should let the silencer cool to ambient temp before removing and checking tightness between longer strings of fire is never a bad thing!
Why not reverse thread the taper mount?
Apologies for the simple question that was answered in the video but I just to make sure.
I am installing the taper mount paladin 2 port brake in 6.5 creedmoor, the griffin logo is to be clocked at the 6 o'clock position (bottom) correct?
Correct. And torqued to spec.
DO you have anything for Cali. everything on your product page says flash this flash that. I want something for bayonet ( 10 rounds go fast ) and maybe a blast can that all we can do in calif
Can a plan a taper mount adapter be ran on a 10.5” ar upper? Right now my optimus is a mile long off the end (with the 300 wm blast baffle) and I’m looking for the shortest possible mount
Putting any thread locker on muzzle device to barrel?
So with the EZ brake, it just screws into the back of the suppressor and I don’t need to buy anything else?
For our taper mountable suppressors such as the Recces, Paladins, Explorrs, the EZ Brake just screws onto your barrel and then the suppressor can be mounted on the muzzle device. For the Bushwhacker 46, the suppressor needs to be in the Plan A configuration (necessary parts for configuration are included with suppressor). For the Optimus 9, the suppressor needs to be in the Midsize or Taper Mount configuration (necessary parts for configuration are included with suppressor). If you're wanting to run the Optimus Micro on a taper mount, you'd need to purchase the Optimus Micro Taper Mount Interface as well as the desired taper mount as the Optimus Micro does not ship with the necessary parts to run in the taper mount configuration.
will the 45 caliber muzzle devices work on a 45-70?
Hello, my muzzle device is stuck to my taper suppressor mount.. how do I remove ??
If the stuck taper mount is one of our newer style, it will have a slot in the back of the device. We do offer three tools that can interface with this slot. These tools are the GI Armorers Wrench Bushwhacker Wrench and the Mount Adapter Driver. These tools would be used by putting the wrench or driver into a bench vise and then placing the suppressor with stuck taper mount muzzle device over the tool. From there, you can simply unscrew the Plan A Adapter from the mount. The Plan A Adapters will either use the a standard AR15 Carbine Stock Wrench, Bushwhacker Wrench, or a 32mm open ended wrench.
If this method is ineffective or you do not have either of these tools on hand, you can try a method using Loctite and a strap wrench. To remove the muzzle device with this method, you will need to apply a liberal amount of red thread locker (preferably Loctite 272) to the barrel threads. Screw the plan a/muzzle device onto the barrel as hand tight as possible. Let the thread locker set up for about thirty minutes. At that time you should be able to remove the Plan A adapter from the muzzle device, to add even better leverage we suggest the aid of a strap wrench or correct tool listed above.
Once the Plan A Adapter has been removed from the muzzle device, remove the muzzle device with a standard wrench. Clean the threads thoroughly and reinstall the muzzle device to the proper torque spec (45 ft/lbs for 5/8 or other and 35 ft/lbs for 1/2x28). If the muzzle device is carbon locked onto the plan a adapter, soaking in a penetrating oil can assist in removing it. We have found Kroil to be very effective. If neither of the methods are effective, please let us know and we can issue you an RMA to send your adapter and muzzle device in under warranty.
What tool / device is in the vice that goes into the barrel chamber. Can't find it.
Search "Action Rod" or "Receiver Rod" I've used the Midwest Industries one and it's great.
Looks like a mi-urr
My flash hider did not have shims included.
So uh how to I remove the flash muzzle device a d install what I got to be able to thread in my recce 5
is the current device pinned?
Do you recommend Rocksett or similar when Installing muzzle devices?
We do not, the only thing needed to properly install a taper mount is proper torque according to the thread pitch (referenced in the video).
@@GriffinArmamentOfficial But is there a reason NOT to use rocksett?
@@GriffinArmamentOfficialis there a reason not to use rocksett?
Please post the tutorial for the Optimus GEN 2.
Would be great if you put the taper behind the threads and make it LH threads.
Nice work !
Where can I find an open wrench like the one you use with your torque wrench to install my 1/2x28 and 5/8x24 minimalist breaks? I have never seen anything like what you are using and wouldn’t even know what to call it? Thanks!
Crowfoot wrench
Do you sell for a MPX 9mm
Our Taper Mount Minimalist Stealth Flash Suppressor comes in a 13.5x1LH thread
My mount does not have the logo etched in lol
What muzzle device do you have? The logo only goes on muzzle devices that require timing. The Griffin logo should be in the 6 o'clock position when the muzzle device is installed. Flash hiders would not have the logo as they do not require timing
@@GriffinArmamentOfficial I have the taper mount that came in the box. I ordered a Recce 5 from Silencer Shop and just got it in last weekend. The only etching on the mount is the thread demensions. I have it snug on my AR, wasn’t to worried about alignment until I saw this video. Lol
@@eggamyer3371 Then you have the Taper Mount EZ Brake that does not require timing, just appropriately torqued to spec
@@GriffinArmamentOfficial but it still comes with shims, why?
@@RenderElectric if you ordered the Taper Mount EZ Brake and it came with shims, that was an oversight on the packaging/fulfillment team. So now you have extra shims that are not required to mount the device you received.
Kinda wish you guys didn’t make it a pain in the @$$ to tighten the muzzle devices; it’s annoying that only a thin part *in the middle of the suppressor threads and the useless circular back part* is where you tighten it, which means having to order a specialized wrench for it instead of a standard wrench/socket. Seriously though, why is it not on the BACK of the muzzle device?? Poor design choice.
Does any of your devices work on a DA Wolfman?
patrickonasis1 we’re not certain what the ID thread pitch is for the rear interface of that can. If it’s the same as other standard pistol can offerings, then our 1.125x28 Plan-A adapter will be compatible.
Wait, you want people to let their can cool down before moving with it?
What the fuck lol
im just looking to replace my faulty ASR system, whats the best option you got?
I want to be able to put a can on my rifle - and shoot - and then move without worrying about my can getting loose - or rocketing it across the earth
I believe he said let it cool before removing it. Not moving
Right down the barrel .. you should still look down the bcg end
Why
I just got a gate lok and the peice of shit without being shot is stuck on the griffin A2 don’t buy this shit
Hi there, this sounds like a matter for customer service. Sounds like you're unsatisfied with your purchase. Please reach out to them. cs@griffinarmament.com or they can be reached via phone # (262)200-0003
Do i need to add shimms or crush washer to the minimalist Flas hider?
Nope, that device doesn't require timing. just torqued to spec
@@GriffinArmamentOfficial thanks. 1 mini Flash please
@@BearArmsChannel www.griffinarmament.com/taper-mount-minimalist-stealth-flash-suppressor/
@@BearArmsChannel The 1/2x28 9mm will be coming back from finishing very soon too
Do these taper mounts fit an Osprey 45?
Nope, we offer Cam-Lok pistons that fit the osprey though
@@GriffinArmamentOfficial thank you!
Where can I find an open wrench like the one you use with your torque wrench to install my 1/2x28 and 5/8x24 minimalist breaks? I have never seen anything like what you are using and wouldn’t even know what to call it? Thanks!
It's called a crowfoot wrench. They come in 1/2" and 3/8" drives. I think most muzzle devices use a 3/4" open end wrench size. Also, there are complete AR crowfoot torch wrench kits. They include the torque wrench and 4 crowfoot wrenches for all of the AR parts.
Where can I find an open wrench like the one you use with your torque wrench to install my 1/2x28 and 5/8x24 minimalist breaks? I have never seen anything like what you are using and wouldn’t even know what to call it? Thanks!
@Hopeless I believe you have to be sure the crow wrench is at a 90 degree angle to the torque wrench or your torque calc may be off (too much torque).
He asked what the wrench socket was and where to find it, not how to use it.