Wendell Berry: The Thought of Limits in the Prodigal Age
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- Опубликовано: 14 дек 2016
- Wendell Berry, award-winning author, poet and farmer from Port Royal, Kentucky, discusses his vision of an authentic land economy. The present economy, he explains, is rife with constraints and incentives that favor bad work. The consequence of this system is that we waste fertility. In other words, the land, if treated well, will give us so much, but we squander it, sometimes against our better judgment because our current economy favors waste. December 8, 2016 - 17th Annual Dodge Lecture.
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Berry starts at 9:02
to have heard Wendell Berry speak thus is a great honor. some day his words will be in the mouths of us all, but it may be too late by then
I was introduced to Wendell Berry in college via his book on Amish Economics in 1999. I have a degree in Environmental Science. I have since spent 15 years in plain people--many of whom were self educated to the 8th grade by 8th grade educated people in their own private schools. These " uneducated plain people are generally very wealthy and self employed. They have their own banks and are recognized legally as their own insurance organizations.
I trade stocks. I have a strong background in the US markets.
There is one thing that I recall in Macro economic in college that struck me wrong, is fundamental to the US economy, and is contrary to the mindset of these plain Anabaptist people--like the Amish and Mennonites. In the Macro economics class I was taught that after I buy something the money is gone and it can not be gotten back. So, if I buy a product and dont like it, then I should just throw it out and buy a different product because using the bad product would just create dissatisfaction. So because the money is gone the money is no longer a consideration.
This is US consumeristic thinking. This is not the thinking of Amish Economics.
The Amish are truly stoic. They have endured horrendous persecution over the centuries.
I know an Amish Mennonite man that went to McDonalds and bough a breakfast platter. He was given the wrong order. Instead of taking it back and getting the right order, he went ahead and ate it because he did not want to waste it.
This man grew up in Georgia in the 1960's. His family had a farm.
Jimmy Carter went to his house a number of times over the years to sell his family peanuts. Jimmy Carter admired this man's family and the way the children behaved. As well as the work ethic and commitment of the man's church community.
Jimmy Carter modeled Habitat For Humanity after Mennonite Disaster Service. Mr. Carter plugged a thrift store into it.
@8:55 Berry!
With regard to population and the question of sustaining without industrial scale farming, etc., I think that even if it were "doped out" we would still need to address the meaning of work for all of us. While small farms require human and animal labor, they can hardly be supported if most of us are writing code for machines that will eventually require all other resources, including that of measured carbon output.
That is true. That's why we need to be more human and less machine servants.
Much respect, quality not quantity. at a low price with no over use.
I am reading the book of Wendell " The unsettling of America: Culture and agriculture " but finding it a bit difficult to comprehend everything because the English is high category, though I have got the gist of what he what's to convey.
Begins at 9:03
As far as US institutional economics goes to maximize profit for each unit of a good that is produced, we increase the number of units we produce until the last unit produced equals the cost producing it. so we break even on the last unit but take all possible profits on each unit before the last.
Plain people economics is not that. They will produce the maximum amount of goods for the least amount of cost. As soon as the value of a good starts to diminish relative to the cost they quit producing it. So they quit way before the standard cost/ profit the scenario above.
There is a nursing home that is run by Mennonites in Arkansas. People from all kinds of backgrounds live there. Mennonites just run it. They offer an inexpensive nursing program their staff. It is for an LPN. An LPN can do quite a bit of the same stuff an RN can do and they make almost as much money but requires half the time in school and it is half of the expense or less.
I think we re-start the Barter system only one solution that chrony capitalism 😍😍 M Gandhi says loss the moral economy
The limits of thought.
Date of comment: May 3rd 2023: In response to this talk by WB - All modern farming and animal agriculture must now be condemned! I can't believe it is taking so so so long to address the abhorrent modern farming methods, especially in the raising of animals in intensive factories, rampant with pathogens, disease and cancers. Now we have China and their HOG HOTELS which are nothing short of abusive, animal-soul destroying pathogen-ridden concentration camps, and the same can be said for virtually all animals being grown on farms today. Shame on us all. Go Vegan! Go Organic! Grow your own!
*#DeindustrializeAmerica** problem solved.*
Lol...hydroponics is thousands of years old...not a "new" technology
I didn’t know that very interesting and not surprised the ancients knew more in many cases