Marvelous Marvin Hagler || Two Losses
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- Опубликовано: 3 авг 2024
- 1) Bobby Watts // MD 10 // Jan 13, 1976 // Spectrum, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, U.S.
2) Sugar Ray Leonard // SD 12 // Apr 6, 1987 Caesars Palace, Paradise, Nevada, U.S. // Lost WBC and The Ring middleweight titles Спорт
Marvellous was and always will be a legend in my book.
RIP great one!❤🙏
Love it when you keep it on the REAL, HOPE HE GOT TO KNOW TMH BEFORE HE PASSED ON.PEACE AND BLESSINGS,TO THOSE THAT KNOW TMH.LATER
They didn’t call him marvelous for nothing.
Marvin was an still is a legend in the boxing world.
3 things everybody does not know or forget: 1. The 15 round championship distance still existed and was lowered by Ray's request. 2. 10 Oz. Gloves were used instead of usual 8oz at Ray's request. 3. Largest ring possible at Ray's request. Look it up.
You are absolutely on point bro , but with all that I still strongly believe that Hagler won
Love both of these guys, I assume that Hagler agreed to all the terms of the fight so this is totally non issue. The biggest winner were the fans of two of the greatest boxers in the history of the sport.
Yes ray made all the variables in his favour ig shame
@@michaelandrews1038 true my friend, plus his circus antics playing to the crowd & to the officials he even had referee Richard Steele on his entourage , all backed up by those slime worms The Neveda boxing commission .... difficult task for Marvin Hagler to over come 😡
Yup, and not only that. Sugar said it himself, I couldn't out right beat him! He went on to explain that he could only win by points. So he would through a barrage of punches while rushing into Hagler to tie him up so he wouldn't get hit. It was that bastard that ruined boxing and made it the clown shit how that it is today. To date, Hagler is the BEST middleweight of all time!
Rest in eternal peace marvin hagler great boxer he controlled the middle weight division
Sugar Ray Leonard was a boxing artist. My favorite and one of the greatest of all times
What a fantastic fighter,haggler was a real hard man.
Glad to see that there are very few Leonard lovers here.
I love Leonard. I just don’t think he deserved the win.
Sugar Ray won the fight. I've watched it, at least 10 times. Close fight, but he deserved the victory. I think Hagler's corner hurt him by not pressing him harder. They acted like it was a walk in the park. Dundee > GP/PP, probably the difference.
@@zepguy3334no man , it was that judge and the referee backed up by the corrupted Nevada state commission who in reality never liked Hagler cuz Marvin wouldnt go along with their unethical methods
I won’t lie, I’m a sugar Ray fan, but he won this fight. Did he dominate Hagler? No! But he was smart, new when to flurry and out boxed him. Tremendous effort!
Hagler main asset was stamina
Hagler eine Maschine.
Die Nehmerqualität.
Ein Schlag vor den Kopf
mit einem Vorsclaghammer würde den nicht umhauen.
Unglaublich
Simply the best ever.. says wots on the tin..legend. rip true fighter.
Two amazing boxers Leonard and Hagler. Best midleweight i ever seen and best welter ever
Nooo! The best welterweight ever was Sugar Ray Robinson. I’d place him above Leonard without reservation. The best middleweight ever has to be a toss up between Monzon & Hagler.
@@arjunakorale6166 best middleweight .... Ummm 🤔 ... Marvin Hagler!
@@arjunakorale6166Hopkins???
Hageler was and still is the best middle weight. You can't call that shit show of tying up Hagler a boxing match.
Wrong canelo is the best.
Ironically, these are the two decisions that were the most controversial. You don't have the Willie Monroe fight, that most people do think he lost. However he knocked out Watts and Monroe twice after that.
Hagler in una eventuale rivincita(che bene ha fatto a rifiutare) avrebbe distrutto Leonard
South Paw and orthodox of all times Marvin Hagler
King Marvin …..l wonder if anyone has either or both of the Marvin v Kevin Finneghan fights on video …both fights were in 1978 and both were similar results with Kevin stopped on cuts but in both fights Kevin was coming on strongly….Marvin gave away the first 4 rounds against Leonard but then chased the sugar man around the ring for the other 8 rounds …
I'm looking for them too , can't seem to find them , would be a treasure to watch
@@Robert-qm5so neither were televised unfortunately
Hagler probably the toughest fighter of his generation. Coupled with his awkward style of head down & dive in first. Undoubtedly both legends; for me Leonard just did enough to shade it. For all his brutal ability Hagler devote's note he was not able to stop or nock Leonard down wich was the differance in the end for me. Two of the very best ever with out a doubt.
No BLEEPING WAY Watts won this fight ! Hagler put on a clinic in this fight ! 😂😂❤❤
레너드까풀고있어
헤글러주먹도안통하는군아
Agree!
And most of those pitty pats by Leonard hit Haglers gloves , what a joke ... sour ass judge and that dolt referee Richard Steele both puppets for those corrupted officials in the Nevada boxing commission in that time
Yeah right good story 😂🤡
That's the risk you run when you can't take someone out.
But how could you , when you're backing away running and clowning
That was Sugar Rays CHEAPEST AND WORST FIGHT EVER! Why? Because he cheated! He would throw a punch or a barrage, rush forward and tie up Hagler so he wouldn't get hit. Then, he would let go before the ref could break them, and throw a punch. Since when is holding boxing. It was the stupidest and most frustrating boxing match I have ever seen. Hagler felt so fkn robbed, and rightly so, that he never fought again. Sugar requested 12 rounds when they used to fight 15 because he knew he wouldn't last, he had the gloves increased in oz from 8 to 10 so he wouldn't get knocked out, he had the ring size increased because he knew he would need to run away. Everything that is wrong with boxing today came from that fight and as a result of Sugar Ray. Pathetic.
Bobby Watts was no doubt fighting back
Every person or anybody or everyone with great boxing knowledge know's that Marvin Haglers true boxing record should be 66 - 1
Hagler did NOT beat SRL!
@@PaultheSheik well, that was due to the corruption of the officials , what a shame
SRL & HAGLAR was a TIE ... you have to knock out the CHAMP or win most of the the rounds ... however; the OBSTACLE IS THE WAY
@@sherrilldean211 but Hagler did win most of the rounds
WE CAN’T ALWAYS GET SUCCESS ... BUT WE SHOULD ALWAYS PERFORM AS IF WE DESERVE IT ... they both did well ... I have been lucky enough to win ... and on a few occasions fell short ...
Leonard and Watts Defeated Hagler and I agreed with both Decisions!
Leonard won that fight
Agree 100%. Brain beat brawn.
Yo I definitely agree
هاگلر😊 بهترینه
The main thing is hagler knew he was the best rip champ
Seriously Hagler did not lose these fights, last fight
Leonard did not do enough damage to take Haglers belt, by far it was a draw and Leonard knew it.
Totally Agree. The money men in boxing didn't like hagler for some reason. The judges didn't either. He didn't get the respect he was due or deserved. As for Leonard... He was the promoters favourite because he created more box office. Leonard lost to Hearns in the second fight too, even though it was called a draw. Everyone knows hearns won that fight. As far as I'm concerned Hagler did not lose any fights, he was robbed.
Not my favourite fighter from this era but he was the best and from memory I don’t even think he was ever knocked down but if only Hearns hadn’t broken his hand on Hagler’s head.
Pensa quanto era dura la.testa di Hagler
@Joe No speaka da lingo
Hagler desesperado, no pudo noquear. Le ganaron bien. Da golpes bajos cuando lo conectan bien y no le descuentan puntos ni le llaman la atención. No supo cómo aceptar sus derrotas. Leonard le ganó siendo un peleador sin pegada.
You must be out your last mind 😆
@@Robert-qm5so Thanks so much for your comment. Have a nice day.
Hagler also lost to Willie Monroe early in his career. So, he actually had three losses.
A BAD ASS
Just for folks to consider, Leonard was out of boxing for several years. He comes back to fight Marvin. Leonard was a welterweight but in the fight he is significantly larger than Marvin. Marvin was a shorter, thick legitimate middleweight, 160lbs. How did Leonard get so big? Its the same time as Ben Johnson and Barry Bonds are using HGH, which was undetectable at that time. Leonard is clearly the larger fighter, that didnt happen by accident. HGH had the effect of making people stronger and able to recover faster.
Lol, you are talking nonsense! Leonard was clearly the smaller man & (as far as we know) never took performance enhancing drugs. Leonard, was & always has been, a career natural welterweight. You are right to call Hagler ‘thick’ set (perhaps another reason why he was so sturdy). However, not all the former welterweights that Hagler fought looked smaller than him - just look up the Hagler vs Hearns fight (Hearns looked huge, compared to Hagler, in that fight but lost badly by third round KO).
Sugar Ray Leonard el más grande del boxeo de todos los tiempos
What about the loss to Willie Monroe
Yes, now that was a legitimate loss by Hagler!
I bet on Leonard to win but I didn’t really want him to
Un robo en despoblado a Hagler en la pelea contra Leonard...pobre Sugar que no pegaba ni estampillas decía mi papá...
Mostrem a luta contra Sugar
Hagler was arguably the best pound for pound fighter ever! He was robbed on both these loses.
I watched the fight again this dawn. I am a HUGE Hagler fan however he lost at least 7 rounds to SLL. He gave away the first two fighting with a conventional right-handed stance instead of his normal southpaw stance. In essence he gave away the fight. If he carried one of those two rounds, he gets a draw at least.
With that said, if we go by the old-time convention of you need to clearly and convincingly beat a champion to take his crown, a draw would have been an acceptable result and cued a rematch.
However, SLL definitely did not lose that fight, sorry.
Nah. It's not a robery if a fight is close. Both fights were close. Could have gone either way.
99% of the time you are right but not this time bud will show why switch hitters him and boots those are the only 2 that I have seen that both hands have equal power dont lose
Boxing promoters wanted Sugar Ray to win.
Corrupted officials greedy for money , the rest let Ray Leonard play with their minds , such a shame !
He did win,he outboxed him. Trews more punches than Hagler,although never hurt him.
@@denisfarrell164 what I don't understand about this fight is how everyone involved let Leonard get away with all the unprofessional antics he displayed that night , those array of soft pitty pats he administered ten seconds before the round would finish , and he did this more than once, I feel as though that one judge sold out , and so many infractions that the referee let pass , low blows, holding , hitting after the bell , I mean Leonard got away with murder that night , referee Richard Steele was even asked that night after the fight that why didn't he substract points , and you know what he said , that no one complained about it! 😳 , a referee that's known to stop fights for bleeding , head butting , and yes for low blows , what the hell happened that night with Richard Steele , was he caught up with this circus farce and turned into a sheep spectator with the fans ? , I strongly believe that Hagler had his hands full that night , not only was he fighting Leonard , he was also fighting that one corrupted judge the referee and the officials, powers that be , that are behind and run the boxing commission at Caesars palace , even the majority of the patrons were against Hagler and I'd bet that they weren't even boxing fans , just there being part of the circus and following the cheers wanting to be part of something that they knew nothing about , what a shameful sad night it was for boxing, for Hagler and for the real fans of prize fighting
@@denisfarrell164no
Marvin hagler era todo lo maravilloso que pudiera ser pero al mismo tiempo era un boxeador que daba muchos golpes bajos ilegales en todas sus peleas y con eso debilitaba al oponente muy sucio eso de su parte
Hagler was better than SRL he threw that fight
Leonard fight was a robbery.
Leonard took 8 rounds and you call that fight a robbery? First 5 rounds Leonard clearly won and you have to say he lost every round from 6 to 12?
I have watched it a few times and I have a boxing judges licence in Melbourne Australia. I have always scored it close. Once I scored a draw. Once Hagler 7 to 5 and once SRL 7 to 5.
@@danthaman03 which means at best it was a draw. as the champ you should be definitively beat. not run the entire round until the final 30 second throw a flurry and expect to get the round. it was a robbery
@@mattburton3233 the winner of the most rounds wins the fight. And the one who lands most scoring punches wins the round. Unfortunately in this case the judges may have swayed by the fact that SRL closed the round with a flurry.
It could have gone either way. Like I said it was on my scorecard close all 3 times I watched it. One must score it with no bias which isn't easy. One may not want to see the champ lose when its close but you have to score each round as you see it with no consideration as to who won the previous rounds or any sentiment.
The Hagler/Sugar Ray fight was a fix worthy of the Mafia. It's why I stopped watching pro boxing.
The WBC and corrupt Jose Sulaiman loved Leonard. Set up all the way. The one judge Jo Jo Guerra who gave almost all the rounds to Leonard disappeared right after the fight but eventually was again judging WBC fights. Leonard was a very good, not great In the history of boxing, but very good WW. He lost to Hagler. It also looked like Marvin was sometimes pulling his punches. The entire fight was fishy
@@Thelategreatjohnnybratton great point Freddo 👍👍
11:34 I WON I WON 11:44 I DIDNT WIN I DIDNT WIN! xD
Hagler was a magnificent middleweight that stayed in his comfort zone . As great as he was, he never went up in weight to challenge saad muhammid. Surgar ray leonard ,hearns duran and benitez all fought successfully at different weights out of their comfort zone. Hagler should have been able blast leonard out in 7 rounds,it was his territory comfort zone . Leonard is like an SAS special forces solider . The thinking solider leonards the thinking boxing. Leonard brain and super fast hands beat haglers brute force . Brain beat brawn.well done SRL
Leonard le ganó en polémica decisión a un Hagler practicamente retirado del boxeo profesional.
I disagree with you by 100 % .... also Marvin Hagler was Marvelous at Middleweight, he didn't have to move up , he was perfect at MW
@@germanmorales1619 Leonard played the Judges , Officials and fans , he even played the referee with his circus antics , very shameful night for boxing in it's entirely ... Just not fair, letting SRL get away with his clownish behavior
Incontro truccato,una farsa.
At around 5 ft 8 (172-173 cm tall) Hagler was a little too short to fight at light heavyweight. Also, there was no super-middleweight division at the time. Marvelous Marvin Hagler was, as someone else pointed out earlier, the perfect middleweight champ. Carlos Monzon is Hagler’s only real rival as supreme middleweight in the annals of the division.
I don't give a sh** what anyone says. He was robbed against SRL 👊
I agree 👍
I to agree
Watch it again.7 rounds to 5 for Leonard.
Very true
Same with leonard hearns 2 😂😅 they love that that clown sugar bum he almost won every decision.
“We have a slip.” …. NO the HELL YOU DIDN’T. Waving off that knockdown was highway robbery ! I like Hagler but getting timed with a jab while throwing a leaping punch is not a damn slip !!
Sugar kicked Haglers arse and then some
Easy win
Close fight.
If that's what you believe then you don't know boxing
It was a close fight.
Hagler gave Leonard way too much respect, for puzzling reasons? If Hager had fought Leonard like he did Tommy Hearns, Leonard wud have gone out on a stretcher doa. I watched this fight live it was back when u cud only see these fights in a bar ppv. I remember thinking at the time "these corrupt clowns are gonna give this to Leonard." Leonard, ultimate media darling paper tiger.
Leonard didn't let him. He boxed defensively.
Eso pensé, Hagler se vendió... Mafia.
Sin duda ganó Sugar Ray Leonard❤❤❤
Never realized how many punches Ray landed, more than what I originally thought
Hagler too slow against Leonard. Hit more air than any chin that night.
Hagler was best middleweight…except for Carlos Monzon.
I don't think ray did enough to take that title from the CHAMPION , NO WAY
Esa pelea fue trampa ,se vendio el " maravilloso" Hagler, nomas lo tocaba no iba a fondo, no hubo sangre.... Muchos millones de por medio.... Mafia.
The fight with Sugar Ray at best was a draw. Marvin stuck to his word and never fought again after that mugging
Cuz he clearly knew he had won and thought Leonard constantly tying him up was a cowards way to try and win a fight via points. If the refs, judges and circuits are going to vote that way, then I'm no longer fighting, cuz that's not fight. That is what he had expressed.
I’m sure I’m in the minority but I always thought Duran beat him in their fight and also Vito Antuofremo beat him in their first fight which was Haglers first shot at the middleweight title and was ruled a draw!
What???? Duran definitely did NOT beat Hagler
I kinda understand with what you are pointing to. Personally, I don’t believe neither Antuofermo nor Duran beat Hagler. However, I’ll just touch on two points:
(1) During the Hagler vs Antuofermo fight 1, Hagler’s stamina & punch output faded along the stretch, while Antuofermo ‘came on’ (esp during the last rounds of that 15 round fight).
(2) During the Hagler vs Duran, Duran won many of the early rounds & fought Hagler ‘right down to the wire’ during much of that fight. This time, Hagler had to come on strong to pull out the last 2 or 3 rounds of that 15 round fight.
In conclusion, both Hagler vs Antuofermo 1 and Hagler vs Duran were VERY CLOSE fights.
@@arjunakorale6166 Very good analysis from what I remember from both these fights. I would like to watch them both again sometime. Also remember Antuofremo had the advantage of being the champion in their fight. The champion only has to defend his title, the challenger has to defeat him!
SRL was a rip off. The fix was in for that guy his whole career.
Pues en ningún momento vi que Marvin hagler, pusiera en predicamento a leonar. ,,Ni lo tiro,,,ni lo corto......menos,,,lo, noqueo ...ni un ojo morado ni sangre de la nariz ..Marvin,acabo,más maltratado,de,la,cara
@@mariohernandezmartinez9328 the same thing with Mugabi and Hearns , Hagler came out with cuts & bruises and came out victorious , in this fight Hagler had more power punches than Ray , most of SRL's jabs were blocked .... WTF wrong with these lame brain blind judges ❓🤔 , Hagler was robbed .... yet again like they did with Vito Antifourmo
@@mariohernandezmartinez9328 when fight finished , Leonard got to his training room , went in and collapsed on floor , his handlers had to call for an ambulance to take him to hospital and though Leonard landed some good blows , the majority were soft punches , 10 seconds before round would end .... what a shame , and what's more embarrassing was that the officials let it count, favoring Leonard
TOTALLY FUCKING AGREE!
All he was , was Muhammad Ali impersonator A fucking showboater
Sugar Ray lo llevo a la escuela le gano claramente y mervin hagler no acepto la derrota muy mal perdedor usted debe ser humilde cuando gana y aceptar si la pierde
I didnt see any losses marvins head barely moved back when they hit him and you could see the spit fying out their mouth when he hit them
Fact ... also when he fought Duran , Hagler had few bruises on his face , but the inside of Duran's mouth was busted , after fight he went in his training room with pain and bleeding to his gums .... And though he loved to eat , he couldn't eat anything solid for two weeks
Hagler beat Leonard
I totally agree ,but the corrupted officials ruined the fight
Bobby Watts don't deserved to win, maximum a draw, but in my opinion there was one or two points in favore of Hagler. Leonard same, don't deserved to win, last but the most scandalous e judges scored, vs Antuofermo.
La derrota de Hagler ante Leonard es la más inicua farsa del boxeo contemporáneo. Marvin Hagler, un boxeador que despedazó a verdaderas bestias despiadadas como Hearns, Durán, Antuofermo, Mugabi, Hamsho, Obelmejias, Sibson, etc. Se dejó ganar ante un retirado, regordete y lento Ray Leonard. Al menos Marvin tuvo la decencia de NO volver a pisar un ring. Un verdadero circo bochornoso y sucio. 😠😠😠😠
Jorge , right on 👍👍
The. Comment. By. Whoever. Yvette is. Is. Nonsense. Leonard. Was. Not. Larger. He. Was. Smaller than. Hagler. At. The. Weigh. In. Leonard. Had. To. Put. Coins. In both. Of his. Pockets. To make. It. To 160. Get. Your facts. Straiight
Didn’t lose to ray Lenard
Hagler sucked
Hagler won over Leonard clearly
Trip to the optitions required
Interesting video but the first guy who beat Marvelous (and beat him up good) is not here - Willie Monroe moved a little like Leonard but hit much harder & had a harder left jab & right uppercut/cross than Leonard. Willie was a GENUINE MIDDLEWEIGHT, unlike Leonard. Also, Boogaloo Watts never really beat Hagler & was given a gift decision in their first fight. Only two guys who truly beat Marvelous were Monroe & Leonard.
Monroe by boxing merits , but Leonard by corrupt officials
I love Hagler but he lost that first fight to Antuofermo,I don’t care what anyone says
Marvelous lost 3 fights he also lost to Willie the worm Monroe..
he beat ray
Las dos peleas fueron robo
You mean three loses
The Leonard loss is very controversial and many think Hagler won
i think this video i sjust showcasing his controversial losses tbh
투우사의 승리지만 펀치는 체중이 실려야하고 위험을 감수 해야 합니다 정면대결을 피하고 애무한 레너드의 승리는 넌센스입니다 레너드의 안마가 헤글러를 지게 마들엇군요 안마사 승
Great fight but I didnt think hagler won. Leonards brain best haglers brawn. Fighters should win and loose gracefully. Hagler and Deonty wilder both great fighters and magnificent moaners . Hearns holyfield and leonard all lost in the past gracefully .