Did Mace Windu Actually Defeat Palpatine During Their Lightsaber Duel?

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  • Опубликовано: 12 фев 2022
  • Did Mace Windu Actually Defeat Palpatine?
    Darth Sidious is one of the most powerful beings in the Star Wars Galaxy. Despite 4 Jedi masters having the high ground, he was able to kill 3 of them in mere seconds, showing just how powerful he is. However, he was defeated by Mace Windu minutes later, with many believing this was a planned defeat in order to coax Anakin Skywalker to the dark side. However, Mace Windu was known as the Jedis greatest champion and was likely the Jedi most suited for defeating a Sith lord. Mace Windu was a master at Vaapad, a lightsaber form that channeled an opponent's rage and hatred back at them. He was also a master at the force shatterpoint ability, which allowed him to determine the exact points of weaknesses in an opponent's defenses. Although he was less powerful than the sith, Windu used these advantages to beat Palpatine in the lightsaber duel fair and square, which has been confirmed by George Lucas himself.
    Palpatine's DISTURBING 'Revelations' About Mace Windu After His Death⬇️
    • Palpatine's DISTURBING...
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  • @VadersFortress
    @VadersFortress  2 года назад +427

    Palpatine's DISTURBING 'Revelations' About Mace Windu After His Death⬇️
    ruclips.net/video/WJ5fQgV8R4g/видео.html

    • @letsgooo8923
      @letsgooo8923 2 года назад +7

      Must've hurt alot of people when he didn't appear in the Book of Boba Fett

    • @starlight0313
      @starlight0313 2 года назад +7

      @@letsgooo8923 it was a good call, his death symbolises the death of the old jedi order, killed by sidious and anakin

    • @letsgooo8923
      @letsgooo8923 2 года назад +3

      @@starlight0313 not really be could be the new Yoda to Rey and could be Ashoka like hidden secret who helps her thru the force or just in counseling?!?!?

    • @NinjaAimless
      @NinjaAimless Год назад +4

      Bullshit lol. Palpatine lost on purpose, I love how Mace only got the upper hand at the EXACT TIME when Anakin walked into the room Lmao 🤣 Oddly convenient for MY point of view 😌.

    • @animdead
      @animdead Год назад

      @@NinjaAimless "Pathetic..."

  • @jarlsterra
    @jarlsterra 2 года назад +9303

    George himself stated that Mace won fair and square. That settles it.

    • @ArmouredUnderCorn97
      @ArmouredUnderCorn97 2 года назад +916

      People still refuse to believe it. It's crazy The man said it himself and people are still arguing about it.

    • @randomlygeneratedname7171
      @randomlygeneratedname7171 2 года назад +24

      @@ArmouredUnderCorn97 Writing is crap everything is speculation now

    • @defalttheloner
      @defalttheloner 2 года назад +47

      The guy thinks Jar jar is a good character, I can't really believe in all his opinions

    • @jarlsterra
      @jarlsterra 2 года назад +528

      @@defalttheloner He literally made the film. This isn't a matter of opinion.

    • @xarrison8274
      @xarrison8274 2 года назад +327

      @@defalttheloner
      1. Thats not a matter of opinion since he's the creator of this lore
      2. Darth Jar Jar is the greatest

  • @Sielnt_Mateo
    @Sielnt_Mateo 2 года назад +15317

    Mace Windu didn’t defeat Palpatine.
    Samuel L Jackson defeated Palpatine

    • @bigsmilie07
      @bigsmilie07 2 года назад +223

      🤣 I almost screamed LOL

    • @ultrablue_gaming3777
      @ultrablue_gaming3777 2 года назад +131

      Stop it 😆 🤣 😂

    • @GDBROWN
      @GDBROWN 2 года назад +107

      Motherfucker’s too dangerous to be kept alive

    • @deogratiusgitarda
      @deogratiusgitarda 2 года назад +119

      @@GDBROWN 🤣🤣🤣you've made my day bruh.

    • @zendariun101
      @zendariun101 2 года назад +73

      nick fury

  • @NeroPh.D
    @NeroPh.D 2 года назад +6004

    When anakin came 1 Minute later:
    You killed Him?
    Mace: yeah, what are you doing here?

    • @huroend1839
      @huroend1839 2 года назад +686

      YO ENTIRE DIFFERENT UNIVERSE RIGHT THERE

    • @axoloxy
      @axoloxy 2 года назад +529

      The Good Ending

    • @jaymon64anabel53
      @jaymon64anabel53 2 года назад +298

      Anakin: NOOO *still kills mace*

    • @infinity_eic
      @infinity_eic 2 года назад +25

      Nice pfp

    • @FlashAF
      @FlashAF 2 года назад

      Anakin: *yo I need to take a fat shit where's the bathroom?*

  • @BCreep234
    @BCreep234 2 года назад +3944

    Didn’t palpatine focus on perfecting is power in the force more than his duelling. He was still one of the most formidable duellists ever but I think it is completely plausible that mace was just a better duellist due to him focusing on perfecting is duelling ability

    • @trevorveillette8415
      @trevorveillette8415 2 года назад +287

      Tbh I think it's just because mace windu has a rare lightsaber form palp might not be used to fighting

    • @legionars118
      @legionars118 2 года назад +112

      that doesnt change the fact that mace won

    • @oran9415
      @oran9415 2 года назад +38

      @@trevorveillette8415 Lightsaber Colour doesn’t affect the strength of the lightsaber and outside of some rare exceptions all lightsabers were functionally identical in strength

    • @grzexd
      @grzexd 2 года назад +382

      @@oran9415 he said „lightsaber form” in, like, technique of using it, learn to read before you comment bruh

    • @zichithefox4781
      @zichithefox4781 2 года назад +43

      It makes me wonder if Obi-Wan could beat Palpatine in a lightsaber duel, since he's often seen as the most potent master of form 3 in history.

  • @intrinsicallylast5246
    @intrinsicallylast5246 2 года назад +329

    "I want a purple lightsaber."
    "Mr. Jackson, purple lightsabers don't ex-"
    "They do now."

  • @manuelzamora3651
    @manuelzamora3651 2 года назад +1871

    Yes, like to think he beaten him rather than Palpatine pretending to be beaten.

    • @italianstallion1540
      @italianstallion1540 2 года назад +30

      To make himself look weak and vulnerable when Anakin walked in,Wich Palpy felt coming BTW

    • @thedreadedkraken3944
      @thedreadedkraken3944 2 года назад +122

      No offense but really could never matter what you would "like" to think. Mace defeated Palpatine. It's like you are restating a point the actual writers whose thoughts matter more than yours.

    • @thedreadedkraken3944
      @thedreadedkraken3944 2 года назад +43

      @@italianstallion1540 And you, going against the grain. It's like you are saying that "Palp" had a chance if Anakin did not walk in. Point is "Palp" had already lost. Game over. "Anny" saw "Palp" on his back defeated. "Anny" didn't need "Palp" to do what he did at all. "Palp" is just a cheap opportunist.

    • @italianstallion1540
      @italianstallion1540 2 года назад +9

      @@thedreadedkraken3944 This Is True,but everyone has their own opinion

    • @thedreadedkraken3944
      @thedreadedkraken3944 2 года назад +53

      @@italianstallion1540 Not the writers lolz

  • @KingErnst16
    @KingErnst16 2 года назад +347

    mace brought 3 jedi master to their deaths only for him to best palpatine on his own💀💀💀

    • @osmanshah5046
      @osmanshah5046 Год назад +28

      Mace was also staggered by that force scream. If Palpatine hadn’t killed the other three first and gone for Mace first he would have died right there. Palpatine also had other opportunities to kill Mace during the fight but passed them up. So even though he did lose at the end it’s not like he couldn’t have won.

    • @cringekiller348
      @cringekiller348 Год назад +40

      L Ozz
      Nah mace had abilities to counter them as well

    • @Pitbull00000
      @Pitbull00000 Год назад +15

      @@osmanshah5046 no , mace is just the strongest jedi, palpy is fodder

    • @pavelsokolovic4097
      @pavelsokolovic4097 Год назад +10

      @@osmanshah5046 No he didn't have a chance to strike mace windu

    • @mr.dumbum8209
      @mr.dumbum8209 Год назад +3

      Those supposed to be his cheerleaders. But because they are also a Jedi, you know Sith Lords...

  • @TheFrigginDevil
    @TheFrigginDevil 2 года назад +1683

    Well if George Lucas said so he would know since they're his characters.

    • @thearbiter3351
      @thearbiter3351 2 года назад +20

      Yep

    • @christopherengel7436
      @christopherengel7436 2 года назад +16

      Right?

    • @liamdalemon1525
      @liamdalemon1525 2 года назад +6

      No anymore they aren't

    • @Jessepinkman764
      @Jessepinkman764 2 года назад +94

      @@liamdalemon1525 they’ll always be his characters he just doesn’t own Star Wars anymore he still has power in the filoni and favreau Star Wars

    • @lochilemon3510
      @lochilemon3510 2 года назад +16

      And George is a guy who tends to change his mind on everything and anything.

  • @sonny9493
    @sonny9493 2 года назад +474

    I love how George, the person who created the scene, the only reliable source, the only one who is in a position to say yes or no to this question has stated Mace won and yet still, the incredible stubborn, thick headed Star Wars fans in the comments are still claiming he didnt. Nerds I find have the hardest time admitting they were wrong. Admit it and move on

    • @anna-flora999
      @anna-flora999 2 года назад +3

      Death of the author isn't a recent idea

    • @thenightking6662
      @thenightking6662 Год назад +2

      The real question is who cares? I would rule this duel as a interference more than anything 😂😂😂

    • @Bruhnwhat
      @Bruhnwhat Год назад +2

      Who tf is george

    • @sonny9493
      @sonny9493 Год назад +24

      @@Bruhnwhat just some dude

    • @starwarsguy185
      @starwarsguy185 Год назад

      Facts man. They probably racist

  • @gyro_rella
    @gyro_rella 2 года назад +476

    Still annoyed that kit fisto died 😩

    • @LordBucket-hl3tp
      @LordBucket-hl3tp 2 года назад +100

      To be fair, he survived longer than the other two.

    • @thebacond3626
      @thebacond3626 2 года назад +81

      @@LordBucket-hl3tp by like 3 seconds

    • @LordBucket-hl3tp
      @LordBucket-hl3tp 2 года назад +57

      @@thebacond3626 He still survived longer though lmfao.

    • @thearbiter3351
      @thearbiter3351 2 года назад +43

      He died that fast because of the force scream of palpatine which disoriented the jedi very much

    • @stardust1621
      @stardust1621 2 года назад +14

      @@thearbiter3351 ruclips.net/video/3nd2861lp20/видео.html
      This actually explains why Kit Fisto died so quickly .. It wasn't just Sith scream that played a part in bringing Kit Fisto down alone. Lightsaber form 1 was garbage against Palpatine etc..

  • @Flauset
    @Flauset 2 года назад +477

    Able to take down three Jedi
    Despite THEM HAVING THE HIGH GROUND

    • @Jason_Ultimate
      @Jason_Ultimate 2 года назад +34

      IMPOSSIBLE

    • @kalo_vera
      @kalo_vera 2 года назад +42

      He had a secret trick so powerful that he didn't teach teach Maul out of fear of it being used against him
      SPINNING

    • @OutlawofTatooine
      @OutlawofTatooine 2 года назад +15

      @@kalo_vera It’s a good trick

    • @rossspeight-burns7216
      @rossspeight-burns7216 2 года назад +21

      They never perfected their mastery over the high ground technique to anywhere near the level of obi wan.

    • @mysteryjunkie9808
      @mysteryjunkie9808 2 года назад +10

      @@kalo_vera it’s actually the Sith Scream he used. It stuns a opponent momentarily the Jedi he fought never encountered it so that’s why he could kill them so fast

  • @cargalpi
    @cargalpi Год назад +17

    "I've had it with this MFing Sith Lord in this MFing Senate"

  • @Latenivenatrix_Mcmasterae
    @Latenivenatrix_Mcmasterae 2 года назад +47

    I like how “the high ground” is just a thing we use to measure someone’s power in Star Wars now

  • @TheGroundedAviator
    @TheGroundedAviator 2 года назад +550

    Being a better fighter does not always mean being more powerful.

    • @thedreadedkraken3944
      @thedreadedkraken3944 2 года назад +52

      Being the better fighter sometimes means you are not on your *back* like a turtle begging for you life while a purple lightsaber is about to end you. How could someone on their back display power??

    • @RitzyRain
      @RitzyRain 2 года назад +13

      @@thedreadedkraken3944 He did display power when he was on his back...ofc that backfired on him but he still did it. Your skills in Saber combat isn't what he means by power.

    • @jDiddyi
      @jDiddyi 2 года назад +4

      @@thedreadedkraken3944 when the fate of his grand plan hinges on his future disciple turning on his team, Palpatine did what he had to do to make Anakin cross the point of no return

    • @toastyeditz
      @toastyeditz 2 года назад +4

      @@RitzyRain Actually the force lightning didn't backfire on him!
      Well in a way yes it did, but it wasn't the reason for his scaring. Palpatine just let the dark side fully take over him in those moments

    • @thedreadedkraken3944
      @thedreadedkraken3944 2 года назад +4

      I think we just don't understand Windu's character enough.. Mace is heavily nerfed by the storyline. We know 1000% he wields the light and dark side of the force. Yoda is similar, but what separates them is Windu's constant battle not to become OP... However that is speculation and i digress...
      ...But Still! Lets think critically... Palp killed 3 Jedi masters..... why was Windo so special? So if Windu just stopped fighting, would Palp have spared him? Why didn't he just kill Windu first and play with Kit, Agen, or Saesee???.... Would've made more sense right?.. I may be crazy tho..

  • @fiacradoyle7474
    @fiacradoyle7474 2 года назад +535

    If anakin hadn't of interfered I believe windu would have beaten palpatine.

    • @LordBucket-hl3tp
      @LordBucket-hl3tp 2 года назад +217

      He had already beaten Palpatine. Palpatine was at Windu’s mercy, Anakin getting involved saved Palpatine from death, not from a loss.

    • @Unwashedarc
      @Unwashedarc 2 года назад +40

      @@LordBucket-hl3tp the empire wouldn't have existed if anikin didn't show up

    • @LordBucket-hl3tp
      @LordBucket-hl3tp 2 года назад +14

      @@Unwashedarc I know, that has nothing to do with what I originally said.

    • @gurgashmire
      @gurgashmire 2 года назад +13

      While Windu may have defeated him in a saber fight, I tend to believe that Palpatine could have taken him down with the power of the force. Nobody has his force capability, except the chosen one at his best. Everything after Palpatine lost his saber is a performance for Anakin in my opinion.

    • @darthmorens9
      @darthmorens9 2 года назад +8

      @@LordBucket-hl3tp I find this hard to believe. We literally watch the guy Manipulate the entire Galaxy into a full scale war, played both sides, he clouded the Jedi’s minds, and on top of that it is hinted that he was the reason Anakin was having the nightmares of Padme dying. Yoda could feel Anakins emotions when he was on Tattooine slaughtering the Tuskens. So we know force sensitives can feel other Jedi across vast distances, its not unreasonable to believe that Palpatine was drawing out the fight against Mace Windu because he knew Anakin was coming. Considering that he had executed a well established Plan to take over the galaxy, he probably even planned out the fight.

  • @FearCycle
    @FearCycle 2 года назад +12

    Mace’s purple lightsaber is so beautiful in this scene 🥺

    • @TheKing-ns4re
      @TheKing-ns4re 2 года назад +2

      The good news is that George Lucas confirmed that Mace Windu is still alive…technically…Samuel Jackson said that he wanted his character to be alive because it’s actually plausible, and George said 'I'm okay with that. You can be alive." :D!!! They NEED to make something on that….would be cool if it was included in the new Obi Wan Kenobi show……And then Anakin meets him again……as Vader. That would be so interesting…

    • @Pilachio
      @Pilachio 2 года назад

      @@TheKing-ns4re Samuel Jackson is really eager to return as Mace Windu. He wanted to be in episode 7, and apparently would also love to return in The Mandalorian.
      So, I think it is pretty likely that he will return in one of the current shows. Wouldn't be surprised if he got his own mini series either.

  • @joecommie4890
    @joecommie4890 Год назад +10

    The original script has Sam Jackson saying:
    "I've had it with these Motherf&cking Sith on this Motherf&cking planet"

  • @davis9502
    @davis9502 2 года назад +49

    Hey, do you know who also had the high-ground? Darth Maul

    • @Sigma_Eight
      @Sigma_Eight 2 года назад +20

      However, Kenobi was the high ground's true master. The high ground cast Maul aside as a false idol.

    • @jackmehoff2420
      @jackmehoff2420 Год назад +1

      Maybe we should phrase it high ground without being cocky.

    • @epicgamer3409
      @epicgamer3409 Год назад +1

      i read this somewhere else but the low ground actually wins. proof? one wan has the low ground and beat darth maul and he told anikan that he had the high ground so ani would jump giving obi the low ground to win

    • @jackmehoff2420
      @jackmehoff2420 Год назад

      @@epicgamer3409 maul got cocky. That’s why he lost. Obi wan had the high ground forcing ani to jump over him. Nothing you just said makes sense.

  • @theshadowdimension62
    @theshadowdimension62 2 года назад +8

    That makes absolutely no sense, in deleted scenes from the movie, the novilization, and legends, Anakin was walking over the corpses of Jedi masters as the duel was continuing. And it wasn't until Anakin was fully in view of the fight that palpatine suddenly loses his saber, gets dunked on, and plays the victim card.

    • @infinitygaming691
      @infinitygaming691 2 года назад

      How doesn’t it make sense?

    • @jDiddyi
      @jDiddyi 2 года назад +2

      @@infinitygaming691 because if Anakin walks in without seeing Mace alive to betray the code, there's an extremely high chance he turns on Palpatine.

    • @thomasiiilacs1355
      @thomasiiilacs1355 2 года назад +3

      Wow you must be the author of star wars huh?
      Lol.
      The author George Lucas already confirmed that mace beat palpitine fair and square

  • @marksimmons3706
    @marksimmons3706 2 года назад +94

    Mace clearly won the duel. Palpating, once he saw Anakin’s weak ass, hammed it up so Anakin can sell out the Jedi and backstab Mace. I hate when people think that Palpatine actually threw the fight. No! He lost.

    • @zampy8706
      @zampy8706 Год назад +5

      It’s obvious he threw the fight. He sensed anakin coming and his conflict within him. Sidous one second says “I need you anakin I’m weak. Together we have the power to save the one you love” then next second he blasts mace off the building saying “ UNLIMITED POWER!!! “ he had plenty of power left and was holding bad vs mace.

    • @marcusb553
      @marcusb553 Год назад +33

      @@zampy8706 who wouldn’t of said anything to save their life in that situation. Out of every Jedi mace was the one who had the best tools to kill sidious and people like you discrediting George Lucus himself simply because you don’t like mace’s character is sad tbh. In your head sidious could sense anakin mid fight while in a battle for his life with one of the strongest Jedi in the universe but couldn’t sense anakin betraying him while electrocuting luke for free.

    • @zampy8706
      @zampy8706 Год назад

      @@marcusb553 mace wasn’t the strongest Jedi lmao and George has changed his opinion constantly. That’s irrelevant lol. Re watch the scene. It’s so obvious he’s holding back. “I’m weak” then blasts mace windu away like he’s not shit screaming “unlimited power” it was all a trick lmao and he fooled your ass like all the Jedi😂 you honestly think mace is more powerful then sidious. They didn’t even know palpatine was a sith until anakin told them😂. Not to mention sidious took out like 3 Jedi masters in 5 seconds. No chance mace could do that.

    • @jangofett4547
      @jangofett4547 Год назад +12

      @@marcusb553 careful u are making sense. Dont fry his brain

    • @Colonelcheeser
      @Colonelcheeser Год назад +4

      Mace didn’t win at all, thought it was obvious once palp threw him out the window. Palps deliberately let him think he won by throwing it. Palps won hands down.

  • @willhall796
    @willhall796 2 года назад +102

    You clever boy…. This will get *ALOT* of attention I’m sure! Well deserved.🔥

  • @NeroPh.D
    @NeroPh.D 2 года назад +6

    You know you fucked when you Lose even with high ground

  • @herobrine3678
    @herobrine3678 2 года назад +7

    Palpatine *losing in a fight*
    Palpatine:
    Oh no anyways
    Zippity zapidy

  • @nathanwhite2689
    @nathanwhite2689 2 года назад +2

    Mace Windu is a juggernaut in the light side of the force just a being of pure unadulterated power.

  • @Gray_Man117
    @Gray_Man117 2 года назад +12

    I mean if it’s been confirmed then that settles it

  • @muhammadksatriaakbarariend8684
    @muhammadksatriaakbarariend8684 2 года назад +13

    I respect kit fisto tho because he last a few more second than the other 2

    • @MaxBlight
      @MaxBlight 2 года назад

      Palpatine killed them by who's more dangerous. First guy Agen Kolar was the strongest of the 3 (possibly tied with Windu). The 3 messed up being on an angle that made it hard to react, they probably thought they were just background muscles lol. He was a master swordsman that everyone knew including Palpatine.

    • @muhammadksatriaakbarariend8684
      @muhammadksatriaakbarariend8684 2 года назад

      @@MaxBlight so palpatine killed windu the last because he thought that windu is less dangerous

    • @thephoenixhunter84
      @thephoenixhunter84 Год назад

      @@muhammadksatriaakbarariend8684 actually, Mace was the strongest of the 4 Jedi. Palpatine did this scream spin (idk what to call it) and that weakened almost every Jedi except for Mace Windu, allowing Palpatine to kill 2 Jedi at the same time, and a few seconds later, Kit Fisto. Mace wasn't affected at all by the scream because he was that much more powerful than the 3 other Jedi, and his lightsaber form also helped him a lot vs Palpatine.

    • @senateurpalpatine
      @senateurpalpatine Год назад +2

      ​@@thephoenixhunter84 no. Mace was the weakest of the 4. He even admitted it when he chose Kolar. Palpatine is clearly stronger than Windu, and he faked the lightsaber part in all the original scripts. But to not make Jackson (Windu's actor) angry, George Lucas decided to make Windu "winning" (even if all the real blademasters know that Sidious can easily defeat Windu without using the force).

    • @thephoenixhunter84
      @thephoenixhunter84 Год назад

      @@senateurpalpatine Very interesting. Guess I still have much to learn about Star Wars lol.

  • @DeusJudexMeusEst
    @DeusJudexMeusEst 2 года назад +114

    This is how I see it, ace Windu did indeed best Palpatine in their lightsaber duel, but Palpatine certainly wasn't out for the count as shortly after being backed into a corner he unleashed a surge of force lightning unto Mace windu. Sidious continues his unrelenting barrage until he senses Anakin coming, he then puts up a scene by weakening the tone of his voice and ceasing to attack Mace Windu all the while begging for his life to be spared (which is very uncharacteristic of Palpatine). This scene was meant to "prove" to Anakin that the Jedi were so frightened of being dethroned that they would murder a "defenceless" Sith to see to it that such events never transpire, a lie which was further emphasised by Mace windu's eagerness to kill off the mastermind behind the clone wars which, unbeknownst to Anakin, was an act of righteousness. This scene was the tipping of the iceberg to Anakin's fall after years of manipulation by Palpatine.

    • @td3141
      @td3141 2 года назад +24

      Mace definitely bested Palpatine and anyone who knows anything about Mace being a master at Vaapad, would come to the logical conclusion Palpatine’s goose was cooked…Besides George Lucas confirmed Mace defeated Palpatine.

    • @UXSpecialist
      @UXSpecialist 2 года назад +15

      Nah, Mace could have EASILY KILLED Him, but instead listened to the whining of Anakin so he lost

    • @sidneygabriel4586
      @sidneygabriel4586 2 года назад +2

      Why Are you Talking In 3rd Person?

    • @thatonewaspatyourpicnic7978
      @thatonewaspatyourpicnic7978 2 года назад +8

      @@sidneygabriel4586 Because he is The Senate.

    • @kashcentral1140
      @kashcentral1140 2 года назад +8

      @worldstar shortz that was his true form revealing itself. Sith who plunge deep into the dark side with rituals and such are consumed by it. One of the effects are disfigured faces. Palpatine had to put on a facade all the time and keep his presence in the force hidden to hide his identity from the Jedi.
      Prime example look at dooku. He leaned towards the dark side but never fully gave himself to it. It’s why he’s doesn’t have sith eyes or looks decrepit.
      You can see this if you watch the clones wars when he was fighting maul. You see him as the decrepit and discolored sith that he his. Compared to when he’s acting as chancellor.

  • @rickeyb8812
    @rickeyb8812 Год назад +2

    "POWER!!! UN....LIM-IT-ED POWER!!!"
    ~ Sidious

  • @doppelnull7022
    @doppelnull7022 2 года назад +12

    Wasn´t Master Cartru'ili better at crowd control than 1v1?

    • @cisarvitiate6142
      @cisarvitiate6142 2 года назад +5

      Sisdious used a force scream on them, that is known to freeze the opponents for a moment. It is a dark side ability.

  • @creepercalvin
    @creepercalvin 2 года назад +8

    Wait he beat a jedi on the high ground
    Is it possible to learn this power

  • @darksid356
    @darksid356 2 года назад +1

    Shatterpoint sounds like a metal gear spin-off

  • @Dumb-Comment
    @Dumb-Comment 2 года назад

    Anakin waited for the elevator for a minute longer

  • @bernhardsonn8996
    @bernhardsonn8996 2 года назад +7

    In that even a question? XD palps Was literally crawling in the ground

  • @eternalmiasma5586
    @eternalmiasma5586 2 года назад +2

    I’m still holding out hope he’s alive, I really would love him to show up in a Disney plus series

    • @jayd5541
      @jayd5541 5 месяцев назад +1

      If they can retcon Maul to go from dead to spider-man to Mandalorian to crime lord, they can retcon Windu to being the Grand Master of the New Order in the next movie trilogy.
      But they won't, because the mouse has no idea what they're doing with this franchise.

  • @NexTheGreat
    @NexTheGreat 2 года назад +2

    Windu is bald, that’s where his strength comes from

  • @combatbeatdown
    @combatbeatdown 2 года назад +1

    I hope we get to see mace windu on the big screen again.

  • @jqcobb2111
    @jqcobb2111 2 года назад +3

    I was just asking myself this literally an hour ago thx

  • @slickman3975
    @slickman3975 2 года назад

    Obi-wan Kenobi: NOOO, NOT THE HIGH GROUND!

  • @HighCouncilStudios
    @HighCouncilStudios Год назад

    Palpatine playing 3d chess ♟️

  • @chistofferweberg6962
    @chistofferweberg6962 2 года назад +6

    It makes the story more sad to know he was beaten so yeah, thats what i’ll believe

    • @TheKing-ns4re
      @TheKing-ns4re 2 года назад +1

      Even though it’s not true for this story lol. George Lucas himself said that Mace Windu defeated Palpatine and the only reason he survived is because Anakin intervened

    • @chistofferweberg6962
      @chistofferweberg6962 2 года назад

      @@TheKing-ns4re ye thats what i mean, sad that it all could’ve ended there if it wasnt for anakin

  • @justatrollyaloser
    @justatrollyaloser 2 года назад +6

    You say that George Lucas himself confirmed that Palpatine would have lost to Windu, but I bet there’s someone out there who would still argue that Palps would have won

    • @senateurpalpatine
      @senateurpalpatine Год назад +1

      Windu was the weakest of the 4. He even admitted it when he chose Kolar. Palpatine is clearly stronger than Windu, and he faked the lightsaber part in all the original scripts. But to not make Jackson (Windu's actor) angry, George Lucas decided to make Windu "winning" (even if all the real blademasters know that Sidious can easily defeat Windu without using the force).

    • @lorenzorercan3821
      @lorenzorercan3821 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@senateurpalpatine you seem to have a certain distain towards mace.

  • @koopakinkreet
    @koopakinkreet Год назад

    Windu folded that old man like laundry and don’t you ever doubt it

  • @fishfossils8858
    @fishfossils8858 2 года назад

    When your enemy has a higher power rating, but you built counters.

  • @HeReS_JoHnNy-qc6vy
    @HeReS_JoHnNy-qc6vy 2 года назад +3

    Ah, the *High Ground*

  • @PloopyLatrodectus
    @PloopyLatrodectus 2 года назад +8

    2005: long cylindrical weapon form being named “vapad”
    2013: long cylindrical thing that blows fruity juice clouds named “vape”
    Coincidence? I think not. Great foreshadowing by George Lucas/Lucasfilm here.

    • @OceanAce
      @OceanAce Год назад

      👋 "You do not want to sell me death sticks"

    • @PloopyLatrodectus
      @PloopyLatrodectus Год назад

      @@OceanAce Oh but I do

    • @OceanAce
      @OceanAce Год назад

      @@PloopyLatrodectus 👋 "You wanna go home and rethink your life"

  • @sosacooper6098
    @sosacooper6098 Год назад

    “Having the high ground”😂

  • @lidless4327
    @lidless4327 2 года назад

    That football game where the QB was injured and came back on pain meds the next half and dominated. Thats the high ground.

  • @marvinsalmeron585
    @marvinsalmeron585 2 года назад +6

    Usually when a man who loses their weapon in battle, tumbles to the floor and is quietly hissing but loudly cowering after being drained to a sack from using the force too much and is about it be murdered by a chad wielding a purple glow stick, that means they lost a duel.

  • @hibrandonhi
    @hibrandonhi 2 года назад +5

    My 2 cents.
    Mace Windu had 2 assets in this fight that he used against Palpatine: Vapaad and his shaterpoint ability.
    Vapaad allowed him to contend and even push back in a tactical sense (matching blows and even counter attacking), but his shatterpoint sense is what he was using to find the weakness in Palpatine he could leverage to win the fight.
    In the ROTS novel, towards the end of the fight he starts to see a shatterpoint, sensing fear and using that in his vapaad to push Palpatine back and eventually disarming him.
    Everything Windu did for the last part of the fight was driving towards this shatterpoint, but what he didn’t realize was he was pushing at Anakins shatter point, his fear of losing padme, confusion of allegiance between Palpatine and the Jedi, and his loyalty to both Palpatine and the Jedi (although this was on shaky ground at this time)
    I think that Windu used the emotion he was sensing from Anakin to beat Palpatine, but by doing so in a way that lead to anakins shatterpoint, not Palpatines. Palpatine even says “you think that is MY fear you are sensing?” when Windu accuses him of being afraid, pointing out that the shatterpoint Windu is leveraging isn’t coming from Palpatine.
    Windu then decides to try the mortal blow on Palpatine and we all know what happened from there.
    He leveraged anakins shatterpoint and emotions along side Palpatines to beat him, but in so doing triggered the shatterpoint that was anakin that ultimately led to him losing.
    Honestly, I think this perfectly embodies the fight between the Jedi and the sith as a whole throughout the trilogy. While the Jedi were prepared for a war of combat and force abilities (Vapaad, shatterpoint) Palpatine and the Sith has been playing Galactic chess to corner the Jedi into a lose lose situation (Palpatine grooming Anakin and setting up the trap that was the clone wars to set up the Jedi to weaken both their numbers and their moral standing amongst the republic and even their own like Anakin and Asoka).
    In order for Mace to beat Palpatine, he had to use Anakins fear to fuel his fighting, and even though he won the duel, he couldn’t kill Palpatine because Anakins shatterpoint was the chancellor, and the power he had offered him to save Padme. Mace Won the duel, but could not win the fight because Palpatine had already won before it started.
    They both won in a sense, Mace won the duel, but Palpatine won the fight (for Anakins allegiance). Mace was playing the game right in front of him that Palpatine had set up on purpose. A fight that no matter what he did, the sith would come out on top

  • @CEROS_
    @CEROS_ 2 года назад

    That 2003 clone wars scene where he uses the force to destroy super battle droids with his bare hands is hard🔥

  • @neroclaudiuscaesaraugustuse
    @neroclaudiuscaesaraugustuse 2 года назад +1

    Mace Windu did harness some of the dark side when he was alive, but he obviously learnt control it.

  • @heirtoroma4152
    @heirtoroma4152 2 года назад +42

    Yes, George confirms it in the commentary that he legit beat it him. I hate it, but it is what it is…

    • @liamlinson7563
      @liamlinson7563 2 года назад +51

      why? i think its interesting we have a villain that isnt god like when it comes to power, palpatine's power doesnt just come from the force but his mind as well

    • @taylorledet3993
      @taylorledet3993 2 года назад +28

      Stay mad the fact mace beat him makes him more badass I’m glad you at least admit it though

    • @heirtoroma4152
      @heirtoroma4152 2 года назад +4

      @@taylorledet3993 What is with people like you? Do you genuinely think the way you talk to people is acceptable?
      No no, I hate the info was there... The fact the info is right there. That something debated, was easily solved by clicking a button out of George’s own mouth.
      I’m mad it was easily found and there the entire time…
      I’m not admitting anything, it’s not debated it’s a fact... Get all the way over yourself.

    • @taylorledet3993
      @taylorledet3993 2 года назад +1

      @@heirtoroma4152 no I don't find it acceptable and yeah im pretty much a failure at life too so there ya go I admitted my fault too

    • @taylorledet3993
      @taylorledet3993 2 года назад +7

      @@heirtoroma4152 also mace won

  • @Nadie47
    @Nadie47 2 года назад

    It speaks more about palpatine if mace defeated him in combat. Shows how easily he can turn around how a situation seems like, as well as his impeccable improvisational skills

  • @dwannwilson1260
    @dwannwilson1260 Год назад

    You know he is one of the most underrated characters in Star Wars and I believe is mostly the community that which is only fox on three characters of all characters and it’s very hard to see other characters like this where do they talked about anymore he’s so underrated

  • @eilon1318
    @eilon1318 2 года назад +3

    That's amazing

  • @ericcaldwell3584
    @ericcaldwell3584 2 года назад +3

    You said the magic words:
    Confirmed by George Lucas himself

  • @Jmacd799999
    @Jmacd799999 2 года назад

    Kit fisto going out so quick like he was nothing really disappointed me on so many levels

  • @ComfortablyLost2020
    @ComfortablyLost2020 2 года назад +2

    I sincerely believe that scream was a force scream to throw the other jedi off balance and that's why they died so quickly, but God that makes me feel so good, I knew mace beat him!

    • @sol3407
      @sol3407 2 года назад

      I believe he didn't use that ability if I'm not mistaken

    • @ComfortablyLost2020
      @ComfortablyLost2020 2 года назад

      @sol3407 when he spins, sidious uses a scream of some kind, I need to look again, but I thought they said it was a force scream

  • @SithOfTheNorth
    @SithOfTheNorth 2 года назад +4

    He definitely beat Palpatine. However was Palpatine fighting at full power I don't know seeing what we've seen in clone wars it would suggest Palpatine was going easy.

    • @thugnite1287
      @thugnite1287 2 года назад +5

      Well I'd say then that was Palps fault and his misjudgment of Mace Windu, and it would have been funny if he died cause he underestimated Mace's power and strength in his dueling skills and connection to the force.

    • @SithOfTheNorth
      @SithOfTheNorth 2 года назад

      @@thugnite1287 agreed. If im honest My full analysis would be mace windu was winning and had won the duel. then Anakin showed up and Palps was like ooh save me anakin. Which to be honest is exactly what we see on screen. Windu is alot stronger than he gets credit for.

  • @NumaxNinja
    @NumaxNinja 2 года назад +3

    Mace is more powerful at the time and best him and Lukas said this get over it😂

  • @starwarsfan5535
    @starwarsfan5535 Год назад +1

    the 3 jedi he brought were just standing there waiting to be killed

  • @deathgobbler4774
    @deathgobbler4774 2 года назад

    I like how it makes Mace Windu look like a total boss

  • @jeremyzang8802
    @jeremyzang8802 2 года назад +1

    Always wanted to know I was so on the fence I trust your wisdom 🙏

  • @lk8300
    @lk8300 2 года назад +1

    You can tell mace is strong and takes no shit pure confidence but a true jedi. Devastating what happened to him by anakin but fitting to the tragedy of what would become Darth Vader

  • @exo.3411
    @exo.3411 2 года назад +1

    Rip Kit Fisto 😪😪😓😓😓 Rest in peace Mr. Smiling man.....

  • @LordBrittish
    @LordBrittish 2 года назад +2

    I don’t think Palpatine’s ego would allow him to feign defeat in front of the one who he wished to be his apprentice.

  • @dmitrysteinsapir2185
    @dmitrysteinsapir2185 6 месяцев назад +2

    "Mace Windu beat Palpatine" - George Lucas

  • @brandonperkins2877
    @brandonperkins2877 Год назад +1

    Mace windu saber style was literally perfected and tailored for Dark side users. It’s rare that he’ll ever lose to a sith lol

  • @skeetersmcgavin2332
    @skeetersmcgavin2332 Год назад

    Mace Windu is alive somewhere and will pop back up in the star wars universe. I GUARANTEE IT!

  • @Joe-pq6cr
    @Joe-pq6cr Год назад

    I would wanna see Mace Windu and Obi Won duel in a lightsaber battle

  • @TheIronManOfSteel
    @TheIronManOfSteel 2 года назад

    And now we know that He survived! Purple Forever!!!!

  • @slimfastsubaru2043
    @slimfastsubaru2043 2 года назад +1

    I've heard from multiple sources that the scream palp did before he killed 3 masters was a force scream which disoriented the masters and it was why they just sat there and died.

    • @DarthNightmareNL
      @DarthNightmareNL 2 года назад

      Well in the books or comics Kit Fisto surveves for quite a bit longer so not sure about that

  • @J0shu476
    @J0shu476 2 года назад +1

    Instead of chit chatting to palp he should have just ended it when anakin came in the room

  • @rustyshield
    @rustyshield Год назад

    He was about to kill him until Anikin betrayed him.

  • @sansgaming2408
    @sansgaming2408 Год назад

    Palps tried spinning he heard it was a god trick

  • @henrlima87
    @henrlima87 Год назад

    POOOOOOWA! UNLIMITHED POWAAAAAAAAA!
    - Palpatine

  • @GarudaLegends
    @GarudaLegends Год назад

    i forgot. Palpatine was crying like a bitch, and was like "Anikan, he is trying to kill me. REEEEEE, help"

  • @williamchandler2937
    @williamchandler2937 7 месяцев назад

    By definition fighting a sirh could never be fair and square

  • @ace24817
    @ace24817 Год назад

    Vapaad is the perfect counter to the Emperors' Darkside Power

  • @theyetti90
    @theyetti90 Год назад

    I said this for years. People just couldn't wrap their heads around this, but figthers know, you can have 3 champions in a circle, and each man can beat the one to their right, but not the one to their left, because of their skills.

  • @hairyharry6969
    @hairyharry6969 2 года назад

    Can you talk about Mace crushing Grievous’ lungs in the 2003 Clone Wars miniseries?

  • @kylenmaple4668
    @kylenmaple4668 2 года назад

    And he did it without the high ground. GOAT

  • @zealotking67
    @zealotking67 Год назад

    His style is the literal definition of "No u"

  • @rustyrattle5776
    @rustyrattle5776 Год назад

    “Despite all Jedi masters having the high ground” 💀

  • @realbradybrown
    @realbradybrown 2 года назад

    I would love to see a live action focus on Mace Windu during the clone wars, we didn’t get to see much of him in action during prequels sadly.

  • @ggalzero2912
    @ggalzero2912 Год назад

    Windu is so dangerous that palpatine needed plot armor to defeat him 😂

  • @lostinthewoods3918
    @lostinthewoods3918 Год назад

    My boy mace dabbles with the dark side without letting it get to him. If anyone could take down papa palps, he’s definitely one of them.

  • @chibidakis1
    @chibidakis1 2 года назад

    Palpatine: Wizard. 3 out 4 jedi down. This is a cakewalk!
    Narrator: It twas not a cakewalk

  • @h3was547
    @h3was547 2 года назад

    Great vid, gotta say though I don't think anyone would risk dying via lightsaber simply to sway a possible follower to your cause and belief.
    It's crazy how lightsaber battles make it seem like "sword" fighting skill is only involved when actually how hard you swing matters less than composure, focus and other mental warfare.
    I always wondered why they don't force attack in the many variations of ways (push, lightning...) The answer is they actually are fighting in each other's minds and altering emotional the foes state of mind producing fear, submissive compassion...
    Imagine just force pushing a stronger user of the force at the start of a
    Face off or crushing another force user into the ground, battles would be like who can attack first rather than connection to the force, skill and experience defining who'd win.

  • @ebtea1229
    @ebtea1229 2 года назад

    palpatine lost but saw an opportunity

  • @luckytaco4344
    @luckytaco4344 2 года назад +1

    nag it’s the sheer amount of badassery channeled by samuel jackson

  • @eljefediablo1796
    @eljefediablo1796 2 года назад

    Sidous didn't even like to use light sabers

  • @AcesRealMusic
    @AcesRealMusic Год назад

    Kinda like when george said luke was the chosen one then years later changes it to anakin 😭😂

  • @soaringeag1392
    @soaringeag1392 2 года назад

    Mace windu fell out the window and into some teleportation tech, that erased his memory and moved him several centuries into the future into a galaxy far far away. He later founded the Avengers initiative, unaware of his force abilities, other than manipulation of one's motives.

  • @thelastjohnwayne8726
    @thelastjohnwayne8726 2 года назад

    Do to the trained style of Vapa’ad when Palpatine did force lighting on Mace, Mace was able to take the negative energy and send it back to Palpatine, hence deforming him

    • @davidspearim5552
      @davidspearim5552 Год назад

      Wasn't mace the greatest Duelist that the jedi order even better than yoda So it is believable that he won in the duel aspect but not the force itself

  • @TNC6
    @TNC6 2 года назад

    RIP Kit Fisto

  • @suhainsomasiri4429
    @suhainsomasiri4429 2 года назад

    It makes other Jedis more cooler cause having the main 3 Obiwan, Yoda and Anakin in the movies that is. Ofc in the clonewars many more Jedis were showed feats but for people who only watched the movies it's quite good

  • @charlesalexander2676
    @charlesalexander2676 2 года назад

    If George would have wanted jar jar binks to beat palpatine, it would be so.

  • @bozkurtcekendoktorstrange2338
    @bozkurtcekendoktorstrange2338 2 года назад +1

    Mace Windu 's vaapad technique was stronger than Sidius' s juyo technique so Mace Windu beat him but although Palpie had a second Lightsaber in his left arm, he didn't use it because he also wanted to take Anakin his side so he showed himself aggrieved. And in a cutted scene from Revenge of the Sith we see that Palpie talked to Anakin for help so he knew that Anakin will come and help him.