JGAurora A5S vs JGAurora A1 - Quick 3D Printer Comparison
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- A quick comparison of the latest newly-released JGAurora 3D Printer models.
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Quick 3D Printer Comparison: JGAurora A5S vs JGAurora A1
If you want to discuss these printers, you're welcome to join us over on the JGAurora Forum here: jgauroraforum.com/discussion/365/comparison-of-jgaurora-a5s-and-a1
I am watching video. I am order jgaurora a1 3d Printer aliexpress $ 339.
I actually think that auto bed leveling is less important than a good build surface. I have a A5 and a FLsun I3 and use to have auto level on the FLsun. After purchasing the A5 with the glass bed and upgrade the FLsun to a glass bed and removed the autolevel. Both printers print great just using manual mesh bed leveling. Since the prints pop off, without any force, the bed stays level and there is no need to relevel every time.
I 100% agree Bernie! A good true-flat bed surface also has several great advantages over a wonky one that has been "corrected for" through software - such as distortions in the print up to the "fade-height". I really wish that I didn't need to use mesh bed levelling at all!
Good job Mr Pinches! 👍🏻 u r the first to bring to light the A1.
Although, I am afraid JGAurora just signed their death warranty.
Mesh bed leveling is crucial into bringing print quality results, on which requires no hardware. It has already been developed by the community and implies no extra cost to the company. Even auto bed leveling with a probe would be feasible and inexpensive. Yet, they do not seem to be on top of their product, nor listening their costumers.
Notwithstanding, taking into account their chosen path of proprietary board and closed firmware, these two new machines look more like a statement to the community: “We don’t want u, we don’t need u.”
Thanks Leandro! Yes, I'm very concerned about JGAurora making a big mistake. I really hope that their survey will show them how important it is to support open source firmware. I know there are many people who don't care - but I think those people are mostly newbies who do not understand the situation fully.
The problem will be for JGAurora, that without passionate enthusiasts (generally open source supporters) there will be no community growing around their new printers. They are about to find out whether or not they need the community.........
Personally, I do not like mesh bed levelling. It introduces some artifacts, as it squishes and distorts the part shape into the new uneven surface. It is not good for high dimensional tolerance either. Ideally, the printers should be increasing in precision. Unfortunately, for many people these machines are just fun toys, so the priority becomes lower prices rather than better quality. I think that soon, the market for toys will be over, and people will demand better quality.
It would be sad if JGAurora was to fail this way, but like you say, this is their own choice. The other big two manufacturers - Creality and Geeetech, they have both demonstrated that they see some value in open source, but JGAurora has rejected it. Nothing more we can do.
Thankfully, there are still some great open-source hardware designs out there, and plenty of 32-bit open source firmware projects too. I'm building my next printer (based on Misumi 3D Pro) from scratch....
Samuel Pinches They can’t please everyone. There is always smth missing.
I do understand there are many who do not care for mods or higher quality, as long as there are no option. But each of them welcome improvements that won’t reflect on their wallet.
A5 is a beautiful piece altogether. U can easily turn a budget machine into a high end model.
JGAurora can still keep both worlds, but if they choose to distance themselves from previous models, I foresee Creality taking back the spotlight.
Build one from scratch is an awesome project. Wish I had the space to work on such. Keep us updated 👍🏻
@@ne0xys I really like how the A5 encourages people to learn new skills and rewards them for doing so with new features. That is one of the reasons I have stuck around till now. People have come up with some amazing things, and it has made this community a lot of fun to be a part of. Sadly, I don't think the same will happen with the A5S and A1.
Once I have things progressing, I'll post something about the next project. :)
@@SamPinchesMakerShop You brought up a very good subject regarding the mesh bed leveling. People should know they must avoid printing on uneven surface, even if the software does the hard work behind the scenes. Such feature should be used along with a plugin called "Bed Visualized" which displays a topography report. Ideally you should manually correct the surface to minimize computerized repairs.
great video mate glade to see you making videos again
Thanks ;-)
One thing to note is the A1 can print at a 50 micron height whereas the A5 can only print at a minimum 100 micron height.
10p6 sorry, thats not true. Both the A1 and the A5 printer can print 100um and 50um layer heights.
@@SamPinchesMakerShop According to Jgauroras site and staff the A5/A5S can only print down to 100 nanometer scale.
10p6 you can set whatever layer height you want in cura. Print quality is better on A5S and A1 than on the A5 out of the box.
@@SamPinchesMakerShop I would love to see you do a test print on both of these at the highest resolution (thinnest layer thickness possible) for comparison. :-)
@@10p6 Thanks for your suggestion! The trouble is with low layer heighs, with a 0.4mm (400μm) nozzle, printing below 100μm doesn't really give you as many benefits - it gives you a smoother surface finish, but no significant increase in detail. For high resolution printing, it would be better to go to a 300μm nozzle, as the added resistance to plastic flow will also help reduce oozing a little bit too. The reason I have not done a lot of print quality tests, is for two reasons: one, they take a lot of time to prep, and optimise the settings, and unfortunately I don't have a lot of spare time at the moment. The second reason is that these printers are not designed for ultra-high-resolution printing - their strength is more in large model printing. The i3 frame design doesnt scale well, as the larger the bed is, the larger the moving mass gets that the motors have to drive around. This means if you want high quality, you need to turn down the acceleration and speed a lot, otherwise you get ringing and rippling in the corners of prints. The A5 in particular has a metal frame made of thin sheet metal, that is not as stiff as I would have liked ideally. I've noticed in prints from the A5, that the alignment between layers is not as consistently accurate or precise, as with some other printers. The long bowden extruder on the A5 is also a downside when it comes to fine prints - each retraction is longer and slower, and the huge number of retractions required significantly increase the time of the print. If you're interested in higher resolution printing, you might consider a smaller printer, like a 250cm square bed, and perhaps a different motion system like the CoreXY. I'm trying to organise some more non-i3 printers to do tests of, but the i3 frame design is cheaper to manufacture, so that makes it much more popular. If you're looking for highest print quality at a budget price, I recommend the JGAurora A1. I was very impressed with the results it gave, a big improvement over the older A5, and the stiffer frame will definitely help the print quality at higher printing speeds compared to the A5S too.
Hello, I want to buy a printer, and I am hesitating between the A1 and the A3S. Aside from the difference in print size, I would like to know if both printers can use PLA, ABS, or flexible filaments like TPU. The indications that I see on the web do not completely clarify it for me. (Is flexible filament printing reliable?) Also, I see that in the A1, it has a functionality to change filament color and to be able to print objects of different colors. Is this method reliable? Does the A3S have this same function? In general terms, which one would you recommend, regardless of the printing volume?
Thank you!
Hi Carlos, both can do PLA. ABS is tricky on open frame printers because of the tendancy of parts to warp, putting the printer in an enclosure would likely help this. Flexible filaments are difficult on both of these printers due to the long bowden extruders. But it is possible on both, perhaps slightly easier on the A3S as the bowden tube is slightly shorter due to the smaller size. Neither printer can print multi colours, unless you have the printer pause on a layer where you can switch filaments. I would not recommend any printer without hearing your specific printing needs. I enjoy the A1, it is very very good value. I have successfully reverse engineered the motherboard to make a full custom Marlin firmware for both printers. You can post on the forum (jgauroraforum.com) if you have further questions. Thanks, Sam
@@SamPinchesMakerShop Thanks!!
Jgaurora a1 upgrade video upload..
Nice comparison!
Is the back of the frame open for easy access to the Z rods and motors?
Cheers!
Great question!... I've just posted some photos of the back here:
jgauroraforum.com/discussion/365/comparison-of-jgaurora-a5s-and-a1
Hi Samuel,
I recently bought the A1 printer but I am having some difficulties to get an acceptable printing result - or a print at all.... The main issue seems to be under extrusion. This could be due to the stripped filament. I have tried multiple different settings, but none seem to work. Even the by JGAURORA supplied gcodes don't seem to be printing at all. Do you think there could be something wrong with my printer? Do you have any suggestions for other settings?
What slicer are you using? Theres a big bug in cura 3.5.X
Also, check that the PTFE tube is not kinked or bent.
@@SamPinchesMakerShop i have tried cura 14.07 (provided with the printer), cura 3.2.1, cura 3.6.0 and even JGcreat 2.5.0. I tried so many settings... And when one model finally seemed to print ok, the filament started scraping again after less than an hour. The tube looks fine to me
Tamara H actually, I remember that my printer had a similar issue at first! I’m going to make a post on the JGAurora forum (jgauroraforum.com) - feel free to join me there and I can explain what I did to fix it.
Do you think the homebrew crowd will still work out getting their own firmware on here?
Chaos Corner thanks for your question. As part of the last homebrew crowd on the A5... no. Or, at least, not yet. I’m happy to talk about this more, about what is involved on the forum here: jgauroraforum.com/discussion/394/planning-new-firmware
I’ve linked my recent blog post discussing this over there too.
@@SamPinchesMakerShop Thanks. I'll take a look. I've had a Printrbot LC for a while now but the limitations of the bed size and accuracy are starting to pinch. I've been looking at maybe a jgaurora for a while now and now that these new models are out, I might bite. I'm leaning towards the A1 at the moment but there are some deals on the A5S out there right now. I have to admit, I'm also surprised at the lack of the self-levelling. I think that's in the Marlin firmware now (?) and I guess that shows the risks of moving away from open source, especially when it's open source that is very well supported by the community.
Hai ser today I install jgaurora a1 3d Printer I checked Power failure resume print not ok. I am Printe 2 minutes then power off. 50 second power on my 3d Printer no resume print option.
I also had this problem - according to JGAurora, the power resume feature is only enabled after 5% of the print has been completed. Thanks for your question. Also, in the future, did you know that you can get help with us on the forum: jgauroraforum.com Happy printing 😃
Thang you so much ser I am chacking..
Jgaurora a1 3d Printer Printer full review waiting...
Yes - it's in the queue! :-) You can also check out the JGAurora A5S review I released yesterday in the meantime - these two printers are very very similar, and since this video shows you the main differences, I thought I would do this one first.
Hello) I am planning to buy an A5S, is it a good printer? I do not know English very well, can you please tell me in brief in short Thanks))
It is a good printer for a beginner. It is easy to setup. The print quality is very good. But, you cannot modify it, because the software is locked.
Samuel Pinches Hello again) can you suggest what is better - the usual A5 or A1? or better to pay extra to A5S?
Thank))
@@SamPinchesMakerShop Nobody uses the original software on it.
@@Yulaw2k Having been involved in the creation of the custom firmwares for A5, A5S and A1, I'm certainly glad to hear that :) However the firmware for the A5S and A1 is still beta, where as our custom firmware for the A5 is quite reliable at this point.
thanks for the review almost bought a A5S, glad I didn't. sense they went closed source :P
They're just about to release a new printer - the JGMaker Magic, that I'm pretty sure will be open source - just waiting for them to send me the files before I make that claim with certainty. But also, we're making good progress towards getting marlin 2.0 to run on the A5S & A1 ... looking promising on all fronts! Finally, they did release the A5S source code in the end too - but it is very complex, and too hard to modify/upgrade easily.
@@SamPinchesMakerShop it's already able to buy. Is it a good choice for first 3d printer? I am thinking about JG Maker magic or Ender 3 with marlin 1.1.9
@@luki3323 For a first 3D printer, I would recommend the Maker Magic, but the Ender 3 is definitely also a good choice. Unfortunately the Maker magic is not yet open source, but I will confirm with the manufacturer and give you an update soon.
@@SamPinchesMakerShop thank you