I’m with you. I just got my first Olight and literally replaced 3 surefire on my AR’s. The engineering and thought behind their products blow away the competition and that’s before the price!
I have many Surefire X300 Ultra's and a few Surefire 640DF's and just bought my first ever Olight Odin Mini. I've been contemplating selling all my Surefires and getting all Olights and your most excellent review has convinced me that is the right move!!! I'm more impressed with this Olight than any Surefire I've ever owned!!!
I have olights on my Daniel defense ARs and I stopped posting them online because of the hate. Some internet people are something else. Great review. Thanks for letting the people know.
The other day online, I answered a guy's question on what light he should get, and I recommended an Olight and OMG, You'd have thought I purposely ran over a bunch of dude's dogs or something!!!
Couldn’t agree more. In the process of a shotgun build. I saw how much the surefires are, and I couldn’t believe it. Did some digging, and olight kept coming up over and over again. I grabbed the Odin mini and couldn’t be happier
First let me say I love your weapons! they're Beautiful, I too love O-light and have been on the receiving end of OMG nice gun but you got a O=light on it! I own some stream lights, nightstick and in OL valkyrie pro, Odin and a balder S and my son owns 3 or 4 also, we have never had a problem with any of them, they just work! I put my Pro on my 10.5 rifle I like the adjustability of Olights you can move/slide them to adjust to where your finger sits instead of you adjusting to the light. I personally cant justify the price of surefire, plus the fact they past the actual barrel of the pistol and just kinda ugly, I was gonna buy a surefire once but instead I used that money and bought a nice Eotech sight for one of my rifles. glad to see someone out there believes exactly what I do, not gonna spend the price of another pistol for a flashlight...sorry
In my opinion streamlight and Olight are better than Surefire for the everyday gun owner/edc lights. Streamlight and Olight are about the same price for comparable products and are both about half the price of surefire. Surefire is great but i agree, they are overpriced for something that may or may not be slightly better.
You need to get your hands on the Olight Valkyrie Turbo LEP light. It kills the SF X300 U turbo. The problem is all of the best holster makers like Tier1 refuse to make holsters for the OL Valkyrie Turbo. The LEP (white laser light) is the way of the future!
Ive been buying flashlights since i was 15. My first was a streamlight stinger, klarus, armytek, olight, fenix, nitecore. All of them out perform surefire and always have. From the features, quality and pricing, china has us beat on cost/materials. As lame as it is, a lot of products come out of china. I gaurentee surefire uses the same cells as the high and chinese manufactuers. I wish it wasnt so expensive for materials in the US.
As a flashlight hobbyist, I don't doubt that Olight components themselves are solid enough, there are only a few LED manufactures out there after all, but I simply do not trust Olight themselves, to take the time to make sure they are put together properly. Good solder joints, thermal grease were its needed, and potting compound all is what separates bad lights from great lights. Surefire absolutely overprices the shit out of their lights though. I can build and equivalent, or better for a fourth of the cost, that will absolutely eat the Surefire's lunch.
I owned a surefire x300 turbo for about a week... Quickly realized that an Olight PL Turbo Valkyrie had better specs (slightly) fit my gun better, had replaceable batteries (I don't like rechargablbles) and a solid clamp. That sits on my HK P30L, solid light, and super high candela for overcoming light barriers. Someone asked "how can you run an Olight on an HK!" My response, "eh, they're both known for war crimes" 🤣
Been running an Olight with green laser/light on my Galil gen2 for almost 3 years. Think about it, middle of the night with no situational awareness because I'm waking up and now I have a good reliable cheap laser that I can use to shoot 30 feet accurately without shouldering my weapon ... nuff said.
Yup I'm going for o o light r pro over the surefire x300 because its like 1 3rd price of surefire and looks same you right about holosuns but they are DAMN EXPENSIVE FOR ME. I USE A DAMN 70 DOLLAR GREEN DOT
Sold my only X300 and two TLR-1 HL and bought seven O-light turbo! Own seven pistol total and they all have O-lights now. Btw my collection of seven pistol cost $10k total. Surefire is overated/overhyped and Streamlight is great for the price but the O-light is best for performance to value! I'm a retired vet and I recommend O-light for your firearms! It's mainly gun snobs that hate on O-light 💯
I have a Daniel defense m4a1 with an olight warrior x4 on it. I absolutely love the light but I must say the tail cap failed me and I had to get a replacement. Normal use nothing crazy. I unscrewed the tail cap so it wouldn’t turn on by accident in my backpack. Went to turn it on later on in the day and it did nothing at all. I couldn’t believe it. I must say customer service was great. Sent me a battery and tail cap free of charge. But the light should’ve never did that, it wasn’t abused or anything. Just sharing one of my experiences with olight. And I still love the warrior x4. It was the tail cap that failed on me. What if I was in a lod situation? I was disappointed I haven’t even used the light much at all pretty much still brand new
Olight is great fight me I have a pl pro valkyrie to ive had it for 5 years not a single problem ever I carried it in my pocket on bald head for 2 years I sweat so much all over that thing still have on my pistol now. I like the rifles only cover to I have one
My problem with olight specifically is really with rechargeable flashlights. I just don’t trust them. Battery issue and your light is fcked. I own an Valkyrie Turbo… but it’s not rechargeable. Still prefer streamlights, except their tape switches suck.
I really like my olight pl pro valkyrie had it for a few years never had a problem after alot of abuse to. And i like my olight odin but the pressure pad fails sometimes that's the only complaint
As a LEO in Los Angeles for about a decade, Ill tell you I was issued with M&P (Gen 1 and 2) and X300U as part of my duty weapon. I bought a DG switch to make it easier to have momentary illumination. The surefire has held up well. Never got loose or wiggled off. I had rechargeable batteries and regular single use OEM batteries, always worked. Consider we shoot rounds during academy, quarterly shooting qualification, and some weekend matches. The detachable holster was only recently approved a couple of years ago. But everything before that required me removing my weapon from my holster day in, day out. between custody facilities and court room attendance. It’s held up. ….. Secondly, another good point is that fact that it people will rather pay an American company first, considering tension builds and your ideology. Which is fine. Plus, it is sometimes easier to continue using the same brand across all equipment as you will be able to interchange parts within your arsenal……But if you are starting out, and want a complete weapon set to learn and adapt techniques to. I don’t think you should be fanged. If a we had civil unrest or war, as long as you a friendly and not opposition, I wouldn’t care what you use.
I think your missing a significant reason why A LOT of ppl are against companies like Olight or Holosun and that’s bc they’re made in China. Supporting American manufacturing is important. We need need to protect US job’s, especially in the firearms industry. Look at the innovation coming out of Cloud Defensive, Modlite, & HRT. If everyone bought Chinese lights just bc their cheap and have a few more features, we’d never get the Rein 3.0 or AWLS. Just my two cents. Love the channel. Keep making vids! 👍
ill support american companies as long as they arent trying to fuck me. surefire is outright screwing you and spitting in your face for buying their products. everyone needs to keep buying these chinese lights because they will force american companies to make better lights at reasonable prices. you think surefire's actual cost is over $100 for an x300? its not... they mark up to a ridiculous degree cause they have government contracts and dont need the consumer market so they price gouge it.
It’s a flashlight. What does it do? It lights sh*t up. Who cares what brand, where it’s made, how much it costs? At the end of the day, it’s a little flashlight. These name-brand-snobs are douchebags.
@@NotYourFriendPal 🤣 actually, it's childish to fanboy and make excuses for over priced inferior products just because they were made by the team you identify with. You know what you get when you make excuses for bad products? Bad products.
Yeah i knew the odin baldr r pro was better than the sure fire x300 although the x300 has my favorite shape so does the o light baldr r pro which is same shaoe but a little shorter which is good for my glock 17. Sure fire x300 doesnt have laser either kinda sucks
For what they are, Olights are cheap and are of good value. By no means the best, but they still are good. In my own experience however, the rechargeable batteries don't have the greatest of battery life, usually enough several hours at a night time range trip or two. Sometimes their cheaper quality is noticeable, too. Nonetheless, they still are good value lights, hopefully the competition will eventually bring more reputable brands to reconsider and redesign new stuff at low prices. Recently bought an X300U, I will just have to see if it really is better as everyone says it is once I get it. Combined with Olights current Black Friday sale, I might have to pick up that new Valkyrie PL-3, for $55 it seems like a steal
@@maximusjoseppi5904 Have had it for a few days now, and so far, I like it, am getting used to it. It's on a full size pistol with a compensator, so it's not really out of place despite it's massive size. It's size and the tail switch are my only two complaints, but I found a third party accessory that replaces the tail switch control with extended controls, should make it easier to use. I can easily return through Amazon, but won't make a final decision until I can buy that Valkyrie PL-3 from Olight's sale and compare it. That or the Valkyrie Turbo
I had a olight pistol light and the battery lasted less than 30 min runtime and had a green laser it was pretty garbage ngl i have the odin mini on a sub2k its pretty bright its not bad but the pressure pad it comes with is really sensitive and doesnt work alot of the time, put a surefire mini scout on my ar and i like the modbutton so i got that. I like the surefire better but thats just me the odin mini is good for what you pay id just run it without the pressure pad.
so send them in for warranty... i havent had those issues with any of mine. i have 2 BALDRs, 2 PL pros, 2 odins, and an odin mini. pressure pad is worth replacing, i dont like stuff on the left side of my gun.
really? cause ive had 2 trijicon RMRs fail and had to have them replaced and an EOTECH EXPS3. I've owned and shot way more holosun products and only had 1 fail. Buy the right holosun product for your application. 503, 509, 508, EPS.... they wont fail and if they do, you had the same chances of an RMR, T2, etc fail
@@maximusjoseppi5904 I’ve never had an RMR fail. I’ve seen multiple Holosuns bite it at the range plus the two I had. Both of mine were the 507K. The shake awake failed on both. Both were sent to Holosun and both were confirmed to be bad. I can’t chance my life on that. I like the idea, but application is what counts.
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I kind of like the fact that you have a custom gun with an Olight. Its almost like a big fuck you, and I love it.
I’m with you. I just got my first Olight and literally replaced 3 surefire on my AR’s. The engineering and thought behind their products blow away the competition and that’s before the price!
Love the plain talk no bs review! You’re one of the few I could drink a beer with and have a legit conversation at same time. Well done
I appreciate that!
I have many Surefire X300 Ultra's and a few Surefire 640DF's and just bought my first ever Olight Odin Mini. I've been contemplating selling all my Surefires and getting all Olights and your most excellent review has convinced me that is the right move!!! I'm more impressed with this Olight than any Surefire I've ever owned!!!
ya.. i actually took the surefire off my scar after i made this video and got another odin haha. its just too good.
First 45 seconds alone deserves the like
O light is getting more popular as the years pass by
I have olights on my Daniel defense ARs and I stopped posting them online because of the hate. Some internet people are something else. Great review. Thanks for letting the people know.
people just want to try to justify the $400 they spent on a lightbulb wrapped in some metal.
The other day online, I answered a guy's question on what light he should get, and I recommended an Olight and OMG, You'd have thought I purposely ran over a bunch of dude's dogs or something!!!
And now (Jan 2024) the Surefire prices are about $100 higher than when this video was made
All features and quality aside, one major reason we see surefire used in government agencies is because they are made in the USA.
AWESOME REVIEW !!! I WAS CRACKING UP THE ENTIRE TIME !!! KEEP THE VIDS COMING, YOU'RE A NATURAL !!!
Got an olight sigurd on my keltec sub2k, couldn't be more satisfied
I like the Sigurd too and was impressed when it came out but geez it's too long for my rifle. wont fit
Couldn’t agree more. In the process of a shotgun build. I saw how much the surefires are, and I couldn’t believe it. Did some digging, and olight kept coming up over and over again. I grabbed the Odin mini and couldn’t be happier
First let me say I love your weapons! they're Beautiful, I too love O-light and have been on the receiving end of OMG nice gun but you got a O=light on it! I own some stream lights, nightstick and in OL valkyrie pro, Odin and a balder S and my son owns 3 or 4 also, we have never had a problem with any of them, they just work! I put my Pro on my 10.5 rifle I like the adjustability of Olights you can move/slide them to adjust to where your finger sits instead of you adjusting to the light. I personally cant justify the price of surefire, plus the fact they past the actual barrel of the pistol and just kinda ugly, I was gonna buy a surefire once but instead I used that money and bought a nice Eotech sight for one of my rifles. glad to see someone out there believes exactly what I do, not gonna spend the price of another pistol for a flashlight...sorry
In my opinion streamlight and Olight are better than Surefire for the everyday gun owner/edc lights. Streamlight and Olight are about the same price for comparable products and are both about half the price of surefire. Surefire is great but i agree, they are overpriced for something that may or may not be slightly better.
You need to get your hands on the Olight Valkyrie Turbo LEP light. It kills the SF X300 U turbo. The problem is all of the best holster makers like Tier1 refuse to make holsters for the OL Valkyrie Turbo. The LEP (white laser light) is the way of the future!
i looked into that a little, isnt that the one thats a very narrow far reaching beam?
Any holster that is made for a sure fire will fit the Olight PL Turbo!
People hate on PSA too! But there are some great parts for the price on there
100% on point with this one!
Ive been buying flashlights since i was 15. My first was a streamlight stinger, klarus, armytek, olight, fenix, nitecore. All of them out perform surefire and always have. From the features, quality and pricing, china has us beat on cost/materials. As lame as it is, a lot of products come out of china. I gaurentee surefire uses the same cells as the high and chinese manufactuers. I wish it wasnt so expensive for materials in the US.
As a flashlight hobbyist, I don't doubt that Olight components themselves are solid enough, there are only a few LED manufactures out there after all, but I simply do not trust Olight themselves, to take the time to make sure they are put together properly. Good solder joints, thermal grease were its needed, and potting compound all is what separates bad lights from great lights.
Surefire absolutely overprices the shit out of their lights though. I can build and equivalent, or better for a fourth of the cost, that will absolutely eat the Surefire's lunch.
Whoa whoa whoa. Are you saying I am better off learning how to build a light for my AR??? Cause I am down but would love any guidance
I owned a surefire x300 turbo for about a week... Quickly realized that an Olight PL Turbo Valkyrie had better specs (slightly) fit my gun better, had replaceable batteries (I don't like rechargablbles) and a solid clamp. That sits on my HK P30L, solid light, and super high candela for overcoming light barriers. Someone asked "how can you run an Olight on an HK!" My response, "eh, they're both known for war crimes" 🤣
Been running an Olight with green laser/light on my Galil gen2 for almost 3 years. Think about it, middle of the night with no situational awareness because I'm waking up and now I have a good reliable cheap laser that I can use to shoot 30 feet accurately without shouldering my weapon ... nuff said.
Dude I needed this video lol. GG!
Yup I'm going for o o light r pro over the surefire x300 because its like 1 3rd price of surefire and looks same you right about holosuns but they are DAMN EXPENSIVE FOR ME. I USE A DAMN 70 DOLLAR GREEN DOT
Sold my only X300 and two TLR-1 HL and bought seven O-light turbo! Own seven pistol total and they all have O-lights now. Btw my collection of seven pistol cost $10k total. Surefire is overated/overhyped and Streamlight is great for the price but the O-light is best for performance to value! I'm a retired vet and I recommend O-light for your firearms! It's mainly gun snobs that hate on O-light 💯
I honestly can’t thank you enough for this video 💯
I have a Daniel defense m4a1 with an olight warrior x4 on it. I absolutely love the light but I must say the tail cap failed me and I had to get a replacement. Normal use nothing crazy. I unscrewed the tail cap so it wouldn’t turn on by accident in my backpack. Went to turn it on later on in the day and it did nothing at all. I couldn’t believe it. I must say customer service was great. Sent me a battery and tail cap free of charge. But the light should’ve never did that, it wasn’t abused or anything. Just sharing one of my experiences with olight. And I still love the warrior x4. It was the tail cap that failed on me. What if I was in a lod situation? I was disappointed I haven’t even used the light much at all pretty much still brand new
Have the Odin mini on a saint and a psa. No issues at all. Brightness is great and fit and finish of light, hardware and pressure switch are all great
Mann I have 4 Odins and you’re spot on !!
Thank you my brother
For the price you can’t beat the olight , they just need more variety as far as beam pattern/ hot spot & smaller pressure switches
I have no experience with anything much… I am interested in olight
Just wondering, if you still have the same opinion on these? I was looking at the same odin you have because it's a quick detach...
Lots of facts in 1 video
Olight is great fight me I have a pl pro valkyrie to ive had it for 5 years not a single problem ever I carried it in my pocket on bald head for 2 years I sweat so much all over that thing still have on my pistol now. I like the rifles only cover to I have one
My problem with olight specifically is really with rechargeable flashlights. I just don’t trust them. Battery issue and your light is fcked. I own an Valkyrie Turbo… but it’s not rechargeable. Still prefer streamlights, except their tape switches suck.
I really like my olight pl pro valkyrie had it for a few years never had a problem after alot of abuse to. And i like my olight odin but the pressure pad fails sometimes that's the only complaint
As a LEO in Los Angeles for about a decade, Ill tell you I was issued with M&P (Gen 1 and 2) and X300U as part of my duty weapon. I bought a DG switch to make it easier to have momentary illumination. The surefire has held up well. Never got loose or wiggled off. I had rechargeable batteries and regular single use OEM batteries, always worked. Consider we shoot rounds during academy, quarterly shooting qualification, and some weekend matches. The detachable holster was only recently approved a couple of years ago. But everything before that required me removing my weapon from my holster day in, day out. between custody facilities and court room attendance. It’s held up. ….. Secondly, another good point is that fact that it people will rather pay an American company first, considering tension builds and your ideology. Which is fine. Plus, it is sometimes easier to continue using the same brand across all equipment as you will be able to interchange parts within your arsenal……But if you are starting out, and want a complete weapon set to learn and adapt techniques to. I don’t think you should be fanged. If a we had civil unrest or war, as long as you a friendly and not opposition, I wouldn’t care what you use.
Great video! Anybody else notice 2 flashlights in around 19:55 shining on that jeep they lock the jeep doors from inside lol.
I think your missing a significant reason why A LOT of ppl are against companies like Olight or Holosun and that’s bc they’re made in China. Supporting American manufacturing is important. We need need to protect US job’s, especially in the firearms industry. Look at the innovation coming out of Cloud Defensive, Modlite, & HRT. If everyone bought Chinese lights just bc their cheap and have a few more features, we’d never get the Rein 3.0 or AWLS. Just my two cents. Love the channel. Keep making vids! 👍
ill support american companies as long as they arent trying to fuck me. surefire is outright screwing you and spitting in your face for buying their products. everyone needs to keep buying these chinese lights because they will force american companies to make better lights at reasonable prices. you think surefire's actual cost is over $100 for an x300? its not... they mark up to a ridiculous degree cause they have government contracts and dont need the consumer market so they price gouge it.
It’s a flashlight. What does it do? It lights sh*t up. Who cares what brand, where it’s made, how much it costs? At the end of the day, it’s a little flashlight. These name-brand-snobs are douchebags.
We like our capitalism more. 😅
SureFire has to keep up with the competition or deliver something more at that price point.
@@maximusjoseppi5904 that’s a childish way of thinking.
@@NotYourFriendPal 🤣 actually, it's childish to fanboy and make excuses for over priced inferior products just because they were made by the team you identify with.
You know what you get when you make excuses for bad products? Bad products.
Yeah i knew the odin baldr r pro was better than the sure fire x300 although the x300 has my favorite shape so does the o light baldr r pro which is same shaoe but a little shorter which is good for my glock 17. Sure fire x300 doesnt have laser either kinda sucks
I like the o light personally own a few
ever have one of the weapon lights fail in any way?
@@maximusjoseppi5904 nope never failed me not once
@@zion1 me either.. I've yet to hear one of breaking first hand.
What foregrips are those?
For what they are, Olights are cheap and are of good value. By no means the best, but they still are good. In my own experience however, the rechargeable batteries don't have the greatest of battery life, usually enough several hours at a night time range trip or two. Sometimes their cheaper quality is noticeable, too. Nonetheless, they still are good value lights, hopefully the competition will eventually bring more reputable brands to reconsider and redesign new stuff at low prices. Recently bought an X300U, I will just have to see if it really is better as everyone says it is once I get it. Combined with Olights current Black Friday sale, I might have to pick up that new Valkyrie PL-3, for $55 it seems like a steal
i honestly hate the x300... hope you like it or can return it haha.
@@maximusjoseppi5904 Have had it for a few days now, and so far, I like it, am getting used to it. It's on a full size pistol with a compensator, so it's not really out of place despite it's massive size. It's size and the tail switch are my only two complaints, but I found a third party accessory that replaces the tail switch control with extended controls, should make it easier to use. I can easily return through Amazon, but won't make a final decision until I can buy that Valkyrie PL-3 from Olight's sale and compare it. That or the Valkyrie Turbo
I had a olight pistol light and the battery lasted less than 30 min runtime and had a green laser it was pretty garbage ngl i have the odin mini on a sub2k its pretty bright its not bad but the pressure pad it comes with is really sensitive and doesnt work alot of the time, put a surefire mini scout on my ar and i like the modbutton so i got that. I like the surefire better but thats just me the odin mini is good for what you pay id just run it without the pressure pad.
so send them in for warranty... i havent had those issues with any of mine. i have 2 BALDRs, 2 PL pros, 2 odins, and an odin mini. pressure pad is worth replacing, i dont like stuff on the left side of my gun.
Will the BALDRs go no a H and K USP without an adapter?
Holosun is cheap garbage. I’ve had two fail. I’ve had zero Trijicons fail.
really? cause ive had 2 trijicon RMRs fail and had to have them replaced and an EOTECH EXPS3. I've owned and shot way more holosun products and only had 1 fail. Buy the right holosun product for your application. 503, 509, 508, EPS.... they wont fail and if they do, you had the same chances of an RMR, T2, etc fail
@@maximusjoseppi5904 I’ve never had an RMR fail. I’ve seen multiple Holosuns bite it at the range plus the two I had. Both of mine were the 507K. The shake awake failed on both. Both were sent to Holosun and both were confirmed to be bad. I can’t chance my life on that. I like the idea, but application is what counts.
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Surefire sucks so bad they don’t even make rechargeable batteries..
If you actually spent the time to look instead of spout bs you'd know they do in fact make rechargeable batteries but even those have cons.