Next year will be 4 years I’ve been having my LG OLED C1 65in. I have had zero issues with it and it’s still my daily tv/gaming monitor that I use heavily for gaming since day one of purchase. No burn in, no dead pixels still works flawless.but I also have the tv on a good expensive surge protector, that’s the main killer of these sensitive tvs.
I had my c1 two years before it became junk. I did everthing ur ment to but still pixel failure and lg told to get lost. Great picture disgusting customer service. I got a samsung neo qled now thank god.
C10 and it’s fine. Used it for xbox for 3 years and pc for the last 12. Used that RUclips image test and screen is perfect. No clue what speakers are like as I use atmos amp with 8 speakers. But this is my 2nd lg oled. The B oled I have lasted 18 months before F1 logo burned into it. The C and G seem to have. Better tech inside them.
People loving OLED in general has nothing to do with "brightness". It's about contrast and pure blacks. Also the response time of OLED pixel is way better than LCD (VA)
I agree! LED type TVs are much brighter. You don't but an OLED for the brightness, you buy it for its accurate color and pure black image. Like you said the response time is much better which makes OLED great for gaming. Between myself and relatives we have 5 LG OLED TVs and all are in perfect condition. Also none of them are above fireplaces. I've hated the trend of putting TVs above fireplaces. TVs don't do well with extra heat. I think it is one cause for TVs going bad. I haven't had a TV work less than 12 years.
@@jaredbeskow8389 High-end IPS have as good as OLED color accuracy. :) I like OLEDs, but they have way too much trade offs also - black crush, black smearing, flickering, banding (vertical mostly) ...
I agree, they should offer a sensible warranty that covers all parts for a least 5 years including the panel. I am no fan of Oleds yet customers continue to pay high prices for them often misled by reviewers that are only on here for the money
I bought a 65" LG OLED ~6.5 years ago. LG did a recall and came and changed the PSU early 2020's when it was maybe 2.5Yrs old. About 9 months ago, of course out of its 5 year extended warranty, when it was switched off some relays on the PSU kept clicking loudly and irritatingly. Only solution was to unplug when not watching. Some research seemed to indicate it was the same fault as the recall was done for. Contacted LG, they said they would not replace the power board a 2nd time, even if it was the same fault. Offered a 3rd party repair quoted at £550! Couldn't source a replacement power board in the UK to do it myself as they had been discontinued, managed to get one from China off ebay for £120 incl. shipping. Been working fine for >6 months. Not buying another LG.
Given there aren't that many people doing TV repair these days but they are selling thousands of TVs, I don't think this is any indication of a high failure rate. I'd also be curious about the manufacture dates, as it may just be a bad batch from the factory so they all fail around the same time. Places like Richer Sounds offer 6 year warranties on these TVs. If they had a high failure rate, they would have gone bankrupt by now.
I have an LG LED TV for 12 years now. Still working without problems and it has been used every day. I never used the smart features, so I didn't miss them, when they were outdated.
Wow! The only TV that gave me 12 years of service was a cathode ray, Sony Trinintron TV. It was the best cathode ray tube I ever owned before I eventually bought an HD TV. All of my TV's are 1080p types today.
Red hot CPU usually indicates that a power stage has gone bad on the main board and dropped the main power rail voltage into it. Not fixable at component level unless you're good at CPU reball and replacement.
4 years ago I bought a 75 inch OLED 4200 euros. 6 weeks after installing it and I started getting bands on the screen. The after-sales service came to my house with a new panel and made the change. 3 and a half years later, I have the same problem again and the after-sales service tells me that I have to pay 2000 euros to repair. Never again LG.
I wonder if part of the problem is that the customers want a thin TV. So the PCBs have funny shaped and maybe less reliable components to keep their profile low and heat sinks are kept to low profiles so are less effective.
I used to work in the domestic white goods repair industry and left due to the fact that people hated when I said to buy an new appliance washing machine etc due to the fact that a repair would not be economical compared to buying a new.
As that TV is only 3 years old I'd be going back to the retailer and asking them to sort it, quoting Consumer Rights Act, as it's not acceptable for an expensive item like that to fail so soon.
You are correct. That act works for up to 7 years after any product purchase. But you need to know how long the product in question should be EXPECTED to last. e.g. A washing machine should be expected to last at least 5 years. I used it once to get a refund from Amazon on a faulty PlayStation a few years ago. The DVD drive on it failed 2 years after the warranty expired. Amazon only coughed up after I quoted the Consumer Rights Act to them verbatim. Funny that. But got 80% refund off them, which wasn't bad for a 3 year old faulty PS.
My livingroom TV is a (2017) Panasonic TX-55EZ952B OLED that still works perfectly. Although I haven't used any tests patterns recently to check, in general use there are no signs of image retention. I'd be curious to know whether Allen gets many Panasonic OLED TVs in for repair and if so, what models/generations and for what types of faults.
Oled is not about brightness. It's about proper blacks and colours. The closest to oled for proper blacks in a video is TVs with local dimming. I don't love a bright TV at night. I always lower the brightness of my TV at night time.
I don't watch network news or sports, so I've never had a problem with image retention on either my 15 year old LG Plasma nor my 5 year old LG GX OLED. Both TVs are used daily and they both still look great!
I'm on my 3rd OLED and I love them. I would definitely get it repaired if it was a board fault. A cheap LED or even a QLED won't cut it. All these parts come from smashed TV's so tend to be in good working order.
My LG OLED is on its third panel. The latest one was replaced under a discounted repair programme that LG had to set up because permanent image retention was such a problem on the 2017 panels. Still had to pay £200 for this, in addition to the £1,500 purchase price. And they had it for 3 weeks. The latest replacement was about 2 years ago. So I'm sure it's due to go wrong again soon. When it does, I'm really not sure if I'll get another. I love the image quality and characteristics versus an LCD panel, but a TV dictating what you can watch for fear of damaging it isn't great. You can liken OLED to a Ferrari. Enormously fun. Looks great. But it will go wrong with every day use.
I used to have my own shop and I found that the rule of 50 percent was what folks lived by. If they could fix an item for less then half the replacement cost then they'd probably fix it but even a little over it it was no go. Then with many parts it cost more for the part then to buy a TV or other items so rather then have folks call me a thief I'd just say it's not economically worth repairing and it's a shame but the manufactures want it that way they want you to get your 5 years or less then on to something new
I have the very same LG OLED55A16LA and it cost £600 not £1000- 1500 as you said. Mine is now three years old and as yet ' touch wood ' not showing any screen burn, or other problems. I don't have it running at full brightness and as I mainly watch RUclips videos, I think it is doing well. As I refuse to pay BBC for a licence because they only show crap, I think the savings I make can buy me another TV when this one does pack up. What does annoy me more is making this one into more landfill which is a disgrace these days. Who in their right mind would buy a used main board from Ebay which will probably have a similar problem when it arrives, and if not then, very soon after.
IÌ got my LG65C114LB from Richer Sounds early 2023 use it for PC, console gaming wonderful beast is she.Sat in front of a dismantled 50 inch Panasonic Viera plasma fron 2010 from Richard Sounds,which still works perfectly i do love my 65inch C1.
What a shame, as I was considering an OLED if I ever needed to get a new one. Our LG 47" 1080p/240 Hz is fourteen years old and still going strong. I paid $1,700 back then before the prices dropped like a rock, but I'm not really sorry considering quality issues with new ones.
I have 2 LG OLED TVs and my relatives have an additional 3 (so 5 total). None of us have had any issues. They are by far the best image quality. I bought through Costco which includes a 5 year warranty. LG made the most OLED TVs by far so it makes sense you will see more LG OLEDs fail than other brands. Overall they are still reliable. I don't go off other people's failed TVs unless I know how they had it setup. If they had by a fireplace or used horrible settings the TV won't least as long. I probably have the same LG 47" TV as you in one if our bedrooms. It is a great TV! Just big and heavy with fairly thick bezel compared to today's TVs. The sound on it is great for a flat screen TV.
@@jaredbeskow8389 Yep that sounds like ours with that big translucent bevel. When we were shopping for it I wanted a Sharp with a thin bezel but my wife wanted the LG so I bowed to her will, lol. It's worked out just fine though.
I bought me and my dad LG smart tvs a few years ago and both of them had backlit LEDs. Both of them were dying one at a time until it got really noticeable. Running a RUclips’white test screen’ shown about half of the 48 lit. I contacted LG explaining that we had two tvs bought on the same day with the same fault. They weren’t interested and didn’t even offer a repair. Nearly £1000 spent just over a year previous. My dad also replaced his with a Samsung and just over a year later, the left side of the screen died, Samsung sent a guy out with parts and fixed it within the hour as it was a known issue. LG denied there was a known fault despite both of ours slowly dying.
Lg ( lucky gold star/ and Samsung were both companies to avoid in the eighties and yet somehow JVC, Mitsubishi etc have disappeared and lg / Samsung are at the top 🤔
Hi there these tvs have common fault with power supply dead 2×20n60 mosfets and 33uf 630v×2caps and fuse 601. main board have cold solder joints on Processor use water base no clean flux to reheated the Processor till melting point works like magic.also you can get rid of thin vertical lines by heating the screen at the bottom and use washing line pegs to clamp it.
Processor change every generation it's likely that this models soc gen had temp issues and eventually died cant put all oled generation soc's on the same category. You mentioned only 2 things that this oleds suffer and those two has been gradually improved ever since
My LG OLED 65" failed after about 2yrs but luckily I found a really good independent repair guy not far from me who knew exactly what was wrong and did an upgrade of components to make sure it didn't happen again. He advised on a repair/upgrade rather than a new board as the new board would die like the original one did. TV is still going strong but I need another 18mths of use before I can tell for real. Love the TV though.
I’ve had 2 Oled tv’s now in the last 6 years or so both Sony Bravia’s. I never once had any issue with screen burn in. LG created and owns oled technology and they license it to companies like Sony. I wonder if LG uses some sort of lesser technology that allows screen burn in? My current tv is the A95L 65” I bought it in October of 2023. The main board had an issue and was replaced in July of 2024. No issues since.
They're ALL going to suffer from it eventually if they live long enough as it's inherent to the technology, much as it was with CRT TVs. It all comes down to whether or not a person thinks it's a price worth paying for the vastly superior picture quality when compared to anything else. I personally think it is. LG seems to have nailed it from around 2017 as it's rare to see anyone complaining about it on models from the C7 onwards, most of which are still fine 7 years later unless they've had very heavy usage. There are always going to be some examples of early failure, but I've never had an LCD (falsely sold as "LED") TV last more than 5 years either without developing some kind of panel-related fault.
It depends on what you watch. OLED burn in is cause by the same pixels being lit too long - so a graphic on a sports program that doesn't change or if you leave a disc on a menu for too long or pause a movie or have a locked off camera feed. But if you just watch generic content where pixels tend to change continuously burn in isn't an issue. While I love OLED, I think mini LED is nearly as good and far less prone to problems.
@@MrSlipstreem Well i guess then i'm the lucky one. Have an OLED55B6 bought in 2017. 4 hours of usage every day since then. No problems at all, no burn in, nothing. Sometimes i wish it would fail because i want to upgrade to 65".
I have a second hand board for this tv. Infect I have many boards for this tv. I have seen loads of these tvs a very bad family of tvs from lg. They also suffered from a weird fault where you would put it into standby by over night and in the morning the standby light would be off and only way to turn it on was to unplug and leave for 5 minutes and plug back in. If you need a board I can put my hands on probably 10 main boards. I'm in the uk
@mikmatmel416 the standby fault is annoying and I've never been able to solve it. I've got 4 of these tvs and they all do the same yet annoying thing is when thereon they work fine
For longevity, it is better to stick with a non-edge-lit LCD panel with a full array backlight. It's a fully matured technology. If you're feeling adventurous, get one with local dimming. In developing countries, there is a huge demand for these, and Sony, LG, Samsung, TCL, Hisense, VU, Acer etc actually compete with each other for this segment. I just got a 43-inch LG UR7500 4K HDR TV to use as a PC monitor, a big upgrade from a 10-year-old 27-inch BenQ 1080p VA panel. Been drooling over 10-bit colours and entry-level HDR for the whole week. Great TV.
Not sure that a blackfriday special (likely Vetsel or similar) LCD set is comparable to a £1500 OLED, yes same size and does the same job, but its like comapring a porsche to ford fiesta
I had a Goldstar before it became LG. TV was programmed to turn itself on, and it did... Catch on fire - never bought that brand ever since, but instead got a Philips that does use LG panels.
I had a different experience. I bought 2 Phillips TVs about 12 years ago that both had issues from the start. I returned both and got 2 LG TVs that worked and looked so much better (same price).
Sony have used both LG and Samsung panels in recent times, (this year is LG) and use a Mediatek chip to power their Bravia engine. They’ve moved to a flagship mini LED range this year however. More importantly, when are Rollo and Red Jerry getting back together? 😂
Had a LG C9 for 5yrs now ( just going out of warranty)🙄 No burn in whatsoever, but I operate it at a lower brightness. It cost £1300 new & had a red vertical line screen fault after 2 months. LG replaced screen under warranty, but took 2 months! It’s a great tv. I hope nothing else goes wrong for a while at least. I would buy another Oled tv for sure!
New board and next to it a (or several) 40x40mm quiet fans, that might do the trick. I have an older LG OLED55 E model, it’s a (close to) topmodel, might have better thermals inside. I do not have any retention, might be you using it wrong. 😮
You know I see so many comments that people talk about with LG and Samsung TVs dying, and it seems to be the same people who also lament Sony televisions for being so much more costly and yet they can't seem to make the connection. Sony does have their problems now and again, but generally speaking on the whole you pay more up front for a Sony because it's going to last even the oleds are going to last and not have problems.
We have a 55" Toshiba 4K TV that we've had now for about 5 years and still going strong... Was under £400 and our son bought it for us as an anniversary gift ... I'd love one of the newer OLED TVs for better picture quality as the only real fault with ours is in the daytime reflection coming in on the screen means its impossible to see the picture and sometimes you just can't see anything in the shadows on the TV.... Having seen all the issues with the new ones though I think I will just keep my money
Bush is a trading name now mostly used by Argos. Bush TV's mostly made in Turkey by Vestel. The same same sets, with cosmetic differences as those badged JVC, Toshiba, Hitachi, Techwood and many many more. All the same manufacturer and based on the same chassis and PSU. All reasonable quality and good reliability. Vestel don't make LCD panels so these have been bought from a Chinese manufacturer for the last 4 or 5 years and very much have been the weak link.........many fail on average 1-3 years and too expensive to replace. A few Bush labelled TV's are completely Chinese in origin. A very good mid level set IMHO.
My LG Oled C3 lasted two weeks before the screen failed. Out of the box it had banding and very poor greyscale despite doing a calibration it was to no avail. Then the LH side went darker than the right, this continued until it failed to show any image. So back it went for a refund, the store had a load of them waiting to go back to LG. I won't be buying anothe Oled, once the panel fails you are stuffed.
Yes I had an Lg OLED . After a software update it started to overheat and giving off a bad smell. I just sent it back to Curry's as it was still under warranty to get repaired but Currys couldn't repair this and I was given a voucher to buy another TV this was 3 years ago. I love OLEDs and LG OLEDs are fantastic. I decided to try a Sony bravia OLED which I currently have no issues with at the moment and I've had this for 3 years. I wouldn't be put off by buying another LG. Probably a good idea to have extended warranty
It's laughable. I bought 55" G2 in September 2022 and just before Christmas 2024 it developed vertical lines. Richer Sounds 6-year warranty to the rescue! It cost me £250 up front to get LG to manage the repair but Richer Sounds covered that - they've been great throughout. LG send a courier (BJS from Walsall, West Midlands) who packed it into an old box stuffed with rags and the carted it off. That's was the last I saw of it. 3 weeks into the 14 working day repair promised by LG they had to admit they had no idea where it was. Totally lost in transit. They've finally agreed to provide a new G4 as compensation, but that will take another 28 days to complete. The G4 is a great TV by all accounts, but I'm pretty much done with LG and would swap it for a Sony A95 in a heartbeat.
Samsung 8000u 50inch bought on black friday deal. Argos £329. The screen failed after 13 months later. They don't make tv like they used to back in the days. Lg oled tv picture quality is 2nd to none. But the screen burns issues and 3x price of normal tv. Make me think twice. Even LG claiming their current LG oled . Less likely to suffer from screen retention problems. Which I highly doubt. Led/Lcd is definitely the better option. Just make sure you get an extended warranty. 2nd time round.
I replaced an LG 3D Led TV with a Sony around five years ago. It was still working but it was pumping out mains noise into my homes mains power supply. When the TV was turned on, it would create an audible hum through my home theatre system that was loud enough to be heard sitting 4m away. Even unplugging the LGs HDMI cable from the AVR wouldn't stop it. It would only stop when the LG was switched off, not really ideal for a home theatre system. Fortunately the Sony is silent when running.
Have you tried swapping the live and neutral around. If it’s a two pin lead going into your tv? Had a similar problem when I lived in Germany. Worth a try. Good luck.
@@brianjames6890 I'm in Australia and the mains active/neutral pins are angled so can only fit into the wall outlet one way. Also, the mains lead on my old LG was internally wired so unless they f'd up at the factory, it was correctly wired to the mains power.
We HAVE to have a bright display, as my wife has macular degeneration & her central vision is affected, which is where are the colour-sensitive cones are. Which is why we have an Oled TV...
No issues with the 3LG OLEDs in the family 55C8, 55C9 and 48CX and the oldest is 5. Plus lots of sports watched on it. Fingers crossed things stay that way. You can get good deals, never paid over 1000 for one. But yeah pricey.
I would say fix it, depending on how many hours on the panel, I find picture quality so much better than LCD so saying you can buy a 55 for £300+ whilst true ignores fact quality isn’t there. They are not so unreliable had my b6v since 2017 and it’s still going strong.
@@rjmahan Richer Sounds offers a 6 year warrant as standard. No way they would do that if the failure rate was high. LG are one of the top brands who sell the most TVs, so naturally you will see more of them at repair shops than other brands. Also as anyone buying a cheap TV is going to just throw it away, not attempt a repair.
Guessing the accountants have taken over from the engineers as usual. There always seems to be a race to the bottom in any developing tech where they try to adapt the electronics to as cheaper solution as possible consistent with keeping within the 1 year warrenty period. Part of this cost cutting involves subcontrtacting to outside manufacturers and lthe consiquent lack of effective quality control. The design to a price in this cut throat market is getting far too silly!
ive just developed a backlight bleed on my 65" lg tv, it seems to be shining through from the bottom- up the screen about 3 inches, stands out more on bright pictures....gutted.
This is extremely common on all large LCD TVs, as the backlight diffuser de-laminates over time. Its not unique to any one brand that I'm aware of. My last Samsung has horrible colour issues (the backlight appears pink and changes tone across the screen) due to the same problem. People also have a nasty habit of having their TV where sunlight can shine on it, or near radiators, which will destroy it much faster.
You say "a lot of money to part with", but a friend has just had (according to the engineer) "complete panel failure" on his £750 50" LG NanoCell TV that's only 3 years old. I've talked him into getting a 48" OLED TV as a replacement for £700 that's vastly superior to NanoCell in terms of picture accuracy. He's well aware of potential "burn-in" issues so is prepared to treat it with the same respect he would a CRT TV. That's all I've done with mine and it now has several thousand hours on it with around half of those watching 2.4:1 letterboxed content with no apparent ill-effects. I'm expecting it to become apparent at some stage as it's inherent to OLED, but I consider it a price worth paying as it's the only technology available in my price range that's capable of producing an accurate image.
No way. I have two sonys, a 50 and a 43, cost me £500 each in 2020. Then a second hand Hisense, costing £100. I don't need more. A story like that just horrifies me. I could also convert one of my 2 1980s CRT sets to accept a hdmi input.
Hello, came accross your channel by accident but glad I did. I have a 40" Panasonic which is approx 8-9 years old has has worked well apart from the very odd occasion where you press the on button and it does not turn on, after a few presses it comes on and no further issues. this happens about once a year maybe I should leave it on standby. Anyway my question, if OLED gives you image retention is it still better than mini led. My TV is probably on for around 8 hours each day, not all sports or news so maybe OLED would still be the best option. I think the picture quality is the most important for me and I want to get a larger 65" TV within the next year. prepared to spend up to around £2000 for a really good one, is it worth it or is it better to buy cheaper and replace in a few years. What are your thoughts on Projectors ? UST or normal ones? many thanks, have a good day.
Trouble is all the components are proprietry. might it be worth grabbing a few donor boards for the more problematic models and soldering new components on as needed. But then its a hell of a higher workflow and the customer may as well just buy a new tv. God this reminds me of the plasma days and exploding screens.
I abandon LG 2 years ago, after two TVs that didn't lasted more then 2 years. Don't get me wrong LG do fantastic TV and monitor panels, but somehow, their electronics have fallen into the cheap area. Is it their fault or a subsidiary ? Not sure. I bought a Samsung for the first time, and very happy with Qled. Hopefully it will last more then 2 years. I hope LG finds it's mark again. In the LCD, LED era, they were doing good TVs if I recall. I kind of miss the Sharp tvs, in a corner of my mind.
I love the LG brand especially the tvs ' I have 3' but the older ones with the scarlet back , I am just in the process of repairing one here in Spain just the capacitor blown on the inverter , I just repair as an hobby have a 55inch samsung in at the minute must weigh less then half of the LG 37s 'nothing to them, ps love the channel.
I have an LG G1 cost me 3k screen burn is impossible totally impossible because the screen has a screen saver that starts after 5 minutes of exactly the same image. I suppose if you buy cheap LG screens its possible
I have to say I don't have the patience to watch these videos without skipping about but I'm still watching my Sony Bravia KDL-40X3100 from 2008! The inbuilt tuner did die a few years back (I suspect common blown fuse), but since the HD part of it doesn't work in Australia anyway, I just hooked up a set top box I had lying around and it's been great ever since. And it's a 'dumb' free the air STB so no spying on me either. Streaming services not for me. As far as the life span of electrical items is concerned, I think ALL electrical goods should come with a 10 year warranty no matter what. From the cheapest toaster to the most expensive TV. Why? Because there's simply far too much waste going into landfill because 1c parts fail. It's long past time to FORCE manufacturers to build better, more robust products and stop ripping off consumers. Ironically, I have more confidence that the cheap toaster will outlast any TV these days.
We have a 47" LG TV from 2012 that still works perfect, even the crappy "magic remote." 47LS5700. It even outlived our 4 year old Samsung that started having issues with the led backlight.
Allen, you are far more qualified than me to talk about TV repairs but not too sure I agree with you on burn in etc? I've had my 65 C9 for over five years and not a single problem. It's primary use is PC and console. I make sure that compulsory pixel refresh runs every 4000 hours (I think it is) and I have logo luminosity on and I've seen nothing. It's the best TV I've owned since the late 70s with one brilliant Panasonic Plasma .. Not sure what OLED model you are repairing here but my mate is a TV specialist and he generally chooses OLED. The failure rates on LED and LCD are far worse.. But it is a lottery. Mass produced means there will always be a percentage of iffy models. I personally can not go back to anything else after OLED. It's a night and day difference.
LED and LCD technology are effectively the same thing. The term "LCD" refers to the LCD panel or screen, where the image is generated. The term "LED" refers to the method of backlighting the screen..........The screen is the LCD panel! It is not true that they are less reliable than OLED, as most LED sets simply fail when one or more LED's in the backlight fail and need replaced, where most modern OLED TV's suffer from a fatal screen failure in their short life. It is mainly only recently manufactured LCD screens which fail that were produced in China. This includes most of the Samsung LCD's produced in approx the last 4 years..........after Samsung bought over a screen manufacturing plant.......in China!! When all is taken into consideration,the most reliable brand today is LG.........when you buy LCD.
When you purchase a Tv of expense like that , you should purchase a warranty as well really, now we know that items break down and we just don’t think it will happen , guess what they do…. You may be lucky and never use it or wish you had.
Think I'll avoid OLED and stick to LED. Won't be avoiding Life's Good though. I have several Life's Good LED, as do family and friends, they have all been good TVs for years with no faults. I also like Bony. Anything is better than Kestrel TVs under 10 different brands. I'd never buy those brands.
It's just LG. Life is Good is their slogan not brand name. I wouldn't believe this post that much because he doesn't state how old the TV is. I have 2 LG OLEDs and my relatives have 3. All are working perfectly. There were issues with OLED at the beginning but those issues have been fixed. Screen retention with current OLED TVs has been almost completely fixed. I have a 4 year old OLED that gets many hours of gaming on it a day without burn in issues. I run the screen maintenance feature often which helps prevent it.
I was almost tempted to get a G4 but now not so sure! Burn-in doesn’t seem to be so much of a problem as it was, but the QD-OLED panels used by Samsung and some Sony seem to look likely to suffer from it more. And the micro-LEDs have bloom and the lesser OLED Sonys seems too black. Not convinced by OLED and it’s perfect blacks as I never see any perfect blacks in reality.
Firstly, night time without lights on isn't perfect black to you? Secondly, the point of deep blacks is you see detail in dark scenes and it offers more illusion of depth due to the contrast ratio.
@@alexatkin maybe at night in an area without any light pollution but OLEDs show complete black in areas that in reality you don't see complete black, just a dark grey. They pick out detail that you don't see in reality, and show contrast ratios that may exist in reality, but they don't start from complete black upwards. Take all those demo screnes of flying over cities, it never looks like that when you are in a plane looking out at the city you are approaching. Those scuba/snorkling scenes never look as colourful and contrasty when you are doing it in real life. I've had times with my old Trinatron or Plasma when I've been at an event, come home and watched coverage of that event on the TV and it was similar to being there and looking through a pane of glass. Never quite seen that 'reallity' on an OLED, it is always 'enhanced'.
@@AndrewDCDrummond If you see an OLED that doesn't look realistic like a plasma TV (my parents have a LG plasma and 2 nice Panasonic plasma TVs and I have 2 LG OLED TVs) then I would say the OLED picture settings need to be adjusted. Definitely don't base this on in-store TV image as stores have terrible settings that make it look unrealistic.
Same OLED, same problem. I had the very same TV, and the exact same thing happened. It seems like these electronic companies have a scam going which serves their purposes. Component's failing, cant access certain parts of the TV and terminator parts that give up at a certain time. Well, just go out and buy another television at your expense and make some nice revenue for electronics corporations who must be rubbing their bloody hands with CON-stant glee. My wife's late deceased Mother gave us a Panasonic LED 55 inch TV from 2004. That TV has been used constantly ever since her passing in 2014. The TV is still going and has not failed once. These days, it's all about extorting revenue out of the customer with below par electronic equipment that is made to fail deliberately by design, including I might add, 4K Blu-Ray players.
Same. Got 2 Panasonic plasma tvs, one 10 the other 12 years old, 48" and 50". Both work perfectly. And no permanent burn in. They're are build to last.
Get rid of it buy a black friday deal loads around at the moment Sad to see but thats the thing now with TVs they are sadly just not built to last very long
I purchased a 65inch LG tv would never of purchased one if I new they had burn in no mention of it either from lg what's so ever over £2500 it cost plasma burn in was the death thd brand, LG is 7 years old the burn in started just over a year ago great picture but the reds are what got hit quite dark in the middle with netflix youtube letters and underline bars showing faintly. For the price of the TV LG should replace the screen......
Next year will be 4 years I’ve been having my LG OLED C1 65in. I have had zero issues with it and it’s still my daily tv/gaming monitor that I use heavily for gaming since day one of purchase. No burn in, no dead pixels still works flawless.but I also have the tv on a good expensive surge protector, that’s the main killer of these sensitive tvs.
Same. C1 is still perfect from what I can tell (not looked too closely at it).
I had my c1 two years before it became junk. I did everthing ur ment to but still pixel failure and lg told to get lost. Great picture disgusting customer service. I got a samsung neo qled now thank god.
C10 and it’s fine. Used it for xbox for 3 years and pc for the last 12. Used that RUclips image test and screen is perfect. No clue what speakers are like as I use atmos amp with 8 speakers. But this is my 2nd lg oled. The B oled I have lasted 18 months before F1 logo burned into it. The C and G seem to have. Better tech inside them.
Same here but mine is a CX
My 55 LG CX & 65 LG C1 are still working perfectly fine!
People loving OLED in general has nothing to do with "brightness". It's about contrast and pure blacks. Also the response time of OLED pixel is way better than LCD (VA)
I agree! LED type TVs are much brighter. You don't but an OLED for the brightness, you buy it for its accurate color and pure black image. Like you said the response time is much better which makes OLED great for gaming.
Between myself and relatives we have 5 LG OLED TVs and all are in perfect condition. Also none of them are above fireplaces. I've hated the trend of putting TVs above fireplaces. TVs don't do well with extra heat.
I think it is one cause for TVs going bad. I haven't had a TV work less than 12 years.
@@jaredbeskow8389 High-end IPS have as good as OLED color accuracy. :) I like OLEDs, but they have way too much trade offs also - black crush, black smearing, flickering, banding (vertical mostly) ...
Surely it’s about time the manufacturers started being punished for making products that end in landfill after two years.
I agree, they should offer a sensible warranty that covers all parts for a least 5 years including the panel. I am no fan of Oleds yet customers continue to pay high prices for them often misled by reviewers that are only on here for the money
That will never happen. This is a perfect example why the whole recycling / net zero is nothing but a way to extract more money from us
Blame the investors.
@@Barbarapape lg do include a 5 year warranty with oleds
Except this video is bullshit. I have three LG oleds, one from 2017, all still working fine.
I bought a 65" LG OLED ~6.5 years ago. LG did a recall and came and changed the PSU early 2020's when it was maybe 2.5Yrs old. About 9 months ago, of course out of its 5 year extended warranty, when it was switched off some relays on the PSU kept clicking loudly and irritatingly. Only solution was to unplug when not watching. Some research seemed to indicate it was the same fault as the recall was done for. Contacted LG, they said they would not replace the power board a 2nd time, even if it was the same fault. Offered a 3rd party repair quoted at £550! Couldn't source a replacement power board in the UK to do it myself as they had been discontinued, managed to get one from China off ebay for £120 incl. shipping. Been working fine for >6 months. Not buying another LG.
Ive had 3 lg oleds with no issues whatsoever now have the lg g4 2024 model brilliant tvs in my opinion
Given there aren't that many people doing TV repair these days but they are selling thousands of TVs, I don't think this is any indication of a high failure rate.
I'd also be curious about the manufacture dates, as it may just be a bad batch from the factory so they all fail around the same time.
Places like Richer Sounds offer 6 year warranties on these TVs. If they had a high failure rate, they would have gone bankrupt by now.
Bought my 55" LG OLED in May 2018 and its still working just fine
I have an LG LED TV for 12 years now. Still working without problems and it has been used every day. I never used the smart features, so I didn't miss them, when they were outdated.
Wow! The only TV that gave me 12 years of service was a cathode ray, Sony Trinintron TV. It was the best cathode ray tube I ever owned before I eventually bought an HD TV. All of my TV's are 1080p types today.
Red hot CPU usually indicates that a power stage has gone bad on the main board and dropped the main power rail voltage into it.
Not fixable at component level unless you're good at CPU reball and replacement.
4 years ago I bought a 75 inch OLED 4200 euros. 6 weeks after installing it and I started getting bands on the screen.
The after-sales service came to my house with a new panel and made the change.
3 and a half years later, I have the same problem again and the after-sales service tells me that I have to pay 2000 euros to repair. Never again LG.
I wonder if part of the problem is that the customers want a thin TV. So the PCBs have funny shaped and maybe less reliable components to keep their profile low and heat sinks are kept to low profiles so are less effective.
I used to work in the domestic white goods repair industry and left due to the fact that people hated when I said to buy an new appliance washing machine etc due to the fact that a repair would not be economical compared to buying a new.
As that TV is only 3 years old I'd be going back to the retailer and asking them to sort it, quoting Consumer Rights Act, as it's not acceptable for an expensive item like that to fail so soon.
There's several retailers in the UK that offer 5 years warranty as standard, so this CAN'T be that common or they'd go bankrupt.
You are correct. That act works for up to 7 years after any product purchase. But you need to know how long the product in question should be EXPECTED to last. e.g. A washing machine should be expected to last at least 5 years.
I used it once to get a refund from Amazon on a faulty PlayStation a few years ago. The DVD drive on it failed 2 years after the warranty expired. Amazon only coughed up after I quoted the Consumer Rights Act to them verbatim. Funny that. But got 80% refund off them, which wasn't bad for a 3 year old faulty PS.
Apparently the advice for a broken TV is:
For a lower end model, not worth it, buy a new one.
For a higher end model, not worth it, buy a new one.
😅
My livingroom TV is a (2017) Panasonic TX-55EZ952B OLED that still works perfectly. Although I haven't used any tests patterns recently to check, in general use there are no signs of image retention.
I'd be curious to know whether Allen gets many Panasonic OLED TVs in for repair and if so, what models/generations and for what types of faults.
Oled is not about brightness. It's about proper blacks and colours. The closest to oled for proper blacks in a video is TVs with local dimming.
I don't love a bright TV at night. I always lower the brightness of my TV at night time.
I don't watch network news or sports, so I've never had a problem with image retention on either my 15 year old LG Plasma nor my 5 year old LG GX OLED. Both TVs are used daily and they both still look great!
I'm on my 3rd OLED and I love them. I would definitely get it repaired if it was a board fault. A cheap LED or even a QLED won't cut it. All these parts come from smashed TV's so tend to be in good working order.
My Samsung S95B just failed. Does not power on. I think it is power board. Less than two years old. Really poor
My LG OLED is on its third panel. The latest one was replaced under a discounted repair programme that LG had to set up because permanent image retention was such a problem on the 2017 panels. Still had to pay £200 for this, in addition to the £1,500 purchase price. And they had it for 3 weeks.
The latest replacement was about 2 years ago. So I'm sure it's due to go wrong again soon. When it does, I'm really not sure if I'll get another. I love the image quality and characteristics versus an LCD panel, but a TV dictating what you can watch for fear of damaging it isn't great.
You can liken OLED to a Ferrari. Enormously fun. Looks great. But it will go wrong with every day use.
Had a CX for I think 5 years with 8K hours on it and 0 problems. Sold it for $650 to upgrade to the 77” G4. I’ll stick with LG thx
I used to have my own shop and I found that the rule of 50 percent was what folks lived by. If they could fix an item for less then half the replacement cost then they'd probably fix it but even a little over it it was no go. Then with many parts it cost more for the part then to buy a TV or other items so rather then have folks call me a thief I'd just say it's not economically worth repairing and it's a shame but the manufactures want it that way they want you to get your 5 years or less then on to something new
have you had any problems with oled monitors...
What exact model of this one ?
I have the very same LG OLED55A16LA and it cost £600 not £1000- 1500 as you said. Mine is now three years old and as yet ' touch wood ' not showing any screen burn, or other problems. I don't have it running at full brightness and as I mainly watch RUclips videos, I think it is doing well. As I refuse to pay BBC for a licence because they only show crap, I think the savings I make can buy me another TV when this one does pack up. What does annoy me more is making this one into more landfill which is a disgrace these days. Who in their right mind would buy a used main board from Ebay which will probably have a similar problem when it arrives, and if not then, very soon after.
IÌ got my LG65C114LB from Richer Sounds early 2023 use it for PC, console gaming wonderful beast is she.Sat in front of a dismantled 50 inch Panasonic Viera plasma fron 2010 from Richard Sounds,which still works perfectly i do love my 65inch C1.
Hi Allen-didn’t you say that you have an OLED ?
We have a 5 year old LG 55”…should I go for the Sony Bravia non OLED? Thanks in advance 👍🏻
What a shame, as I was considering an OLED if I ever needed to get a new one. Our LG 47" 1080p/240 Hz is fourteen years old and still going strong. I paid $1,700 back then before the prices dropped like a rock, but I'm not really sorry considering quality issues with new ones.
I have 2 LG OLED TVs and my relatives have an additional 3 (so 5 total). None of us have had any issues. They are by far the best image quality. I bought through Costco which includes a 5 year warranty. LG made the most OLED TVs by far so it makes sense you will see more LG OLEDs fail than other brands. Overall they are still reliable.
I don't go off other people's failed TVs unless I know how they had it setup. If they had by a fireplace or used horrible settings the TV won't least as long.
I probably have the same LG 47" TV as you in one if our bedrooms. It is a great TV! Just big and heavy with fairly thick bezel compared to today's TVs. The sound on it is great for a flat screen TV.
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Yep that sounds like ours with that big translucent bevel. When we were shopping for it I wanted a Sharp with a thin bezel but my wife wanted the LG so I bowed to her will, lol. It's worked out just fine though.
Keep it
I bought me and my dad LG smart tvs a few years ago and both of them had backlit LEDs. Both of them were dying one at a time until it got really noticeable. Running a RUclips’white test screen’ shown about half of the 48 lit. I contacted LG explaining that we had two tvs bought on the same day with the same fault.
They weren’t interested and didn’t even offer a repair. Nearly £1000 spent just over a year previous.
My dad also replaced his with a Samsung and just over a year later, the left side of the screen died, Samsung sent a guy out with parts and fixed it within the hour as it was a known issue. LG denied there was a known fault despite both of ours slowly dying.
Lg ( lucky gold star/ and Samsung were both companies to avoid in the eighties and yet somehow JVC, Mitsubishi etc have disappeared and lg / Samsung are at the top 🤔
The images and indents onscreen were called DOGS (Digital Onscreen Graphics).
Hi there these tvs have common fault with power supply dead 2×20n60 mosfets and 33uf 630v×2caps and fuse 601. main board have cold solder joints on Processor use water base no clean flux to reheated the Processor till melting point works like magic.also you can get rid of thin vertical lines by heating the screen at the bottom and use washing line pegs to clamp it.
Processor change every generation it's likely that this models soc gen had temp issues and eventually died cant put all oled generation soc's on the same category. You mentioned only 2 things that this oleds suffer and those two has been gradually improved ever since
I have a LG C2 42 inch OLED on my PC as a monitor. Absolutely love the image from the OLED and the device has performed flawlessly for 2 years of use.
My LG OLED 65" failed after about 2yrs but luckily I found a really good independent repair guy not far from me who knew exactly what was wrong and did an upgrade of components to make sure it didn't happen again. He advised on a repair/upgrade rather than a new board as the new board would die like the original one did. TV is still going strong but I need another 18mths of use before I can tell for real. Love the TV though.
I’ve had 2 Oled tv’s now in the last 6 years or so both Sony Bravia’s. I never once had any issue with screen burn in. LG created and owns oled technology and they license it to companies like Sony. I wonder if LG uses some sort of lesser technology that allows screen burn in? My current tv is the A95L 65” I bought it in October of 2023. The main board had an issue and was replaced in July of 2024. No issues since.
They're ALL going to suffer from it eventually if they live long enough as it's inherent to the technology, much as it was with CRT TVs. It all comes down to whether or not a person thinks it's a price worth paying for the vastly superior picture quality when compared to anything else. I personally think it is. LG seems to have nailed it from around 2017 as it's rare to see anyone complaining about it on models from the C7 onwards, most of which are still fine 7 years later unless they've had very heavy usage.
There are always going to be some examples of early failure, but I've never had an LCD (falsely sold as "LED") TV last more than 5 years either without developing some kind of panel-related fault.
It depends on what you watch. OLED burn in is cause by the same pixels being lit too long - so a graphic on a sports program that doesn't change or if you leave a disc on a menu for too long or pause a movie or have a locked off camera feed. But if you just watch generic content where pixels tend to change continuously burn in isn't an issue. While I love OLED, I think mini LED is nearly as good and far less prone to problems.
@@MrSlipstreem Well i guess then i'm the lucky one. Have an OLED55B6 bought in 2017. 4 hours of usage every day since then. No problems at all, no burn in, nothing. Sometimes i wish it would fail because i want to upgrade to 65".
I have a second hand board for this tv. Infect I have many boards for this tv. I have seen loads of these tvs a very bad family of tvs from lg. They also suffered from a weird fault where you would put it into standby by over night and in the morning the standby light would be off and only way to turn it on was to unplug and leave for 5 minutes and plug back in. If you need a board I can put my hands on probably 10 main boards. I'm in the uk
@@jathomas873 yes please. That would be amazing.
The standby is a fault on my LG Oled 65 inch screen. So annoying that I have to unplug it from the mains every night 😡
What is the board number you need@@allenfleckney5969
@mikmatmel416 the standby fault is annoying and I've never been able to solve it. I've got 4 of these tvs and they all do the same yet annoying thing is when thereon they work fine
@@allenfleckney5969I'm back in my warehouse tomorrow so will dig one out if you let me know the board numbers
What model is this LG OLED?
My OLED55CX has had 2 repairs, one mainboard and one panel repair
For longevity, it is better to stick with a non-edge-lit LCD panel with a full array backlight. It's a fully matured technology. If you're feeling adventurous, get one with local dimming.
In developing countries, there is a huge demand for these, and Sony, LG, Samsung, TCL, Hisense, VU, Acer etc actually compete with each other for this segment. I just got a 43-inch LG UR7500 4K HDR TV to use as a PC monitor, a big upgrade from a 10-year-old 27-inch BenQ 1080p VA panel. Been drooling over 10-bit colours and entry-level HDR for the whole week. Great TV.
Not sure that a blackfriday special (likely Vetsel or similar) LCD set is comparable to a £1500 OLED, yes same size and does the same job, but its like comapring a porsche to ford fiesta
I had a Goldstar before it became LG. TV was programmed to turn itself on, and it did... Catch on fire - never bought that brand ever since, but instead got a Philips that does use LG panels.
LG's a good brand man.👍🏻
I had a different experience. I bought 2 Phillips TVs about 12 years ago that both had issues from the start. I returned both and got 2 LG TVs that worked and looked so much better (same price).
Do LG still make the OLED panels for Sony?
Sony have used both LG and Samsung panels in recent times, (this year is LG) and use a Mediatek chip to power their Bravia engine. They’ve moved to a flagship mini LED range this year however.
More importantly, when are Rollo and Red Jerry getting back together? 😂
Had a LG C9 for 5yrs now ( just going out of warranty)🙄 No burn in whatsoever, but I operate it at a lower brightness. It cost £1300 new & had a red vertical line screen fault after 2 months. LG replaced screen under warranty, but took 2 months! It’s a great tv. I hope nothing else goes wrong for a while at least. I would buy another Oled tv for sure!
Why don't manufactures add additional heat sink and fan to aid with cooling rather just relaying on the metal cover as a heat spreader ??
New board and next to it a (or several) 40x40mm quiet fans, that might do the trick.
I have an older LG OLED55 E model, it’s a (close to) topmodel, might have better thermals inside.
I do not have any retention, might be you using it wrong. 😮
I think you mean quiet fans, not quit fans.
You know I see so many comments that people talk about with LG and Samsung TVs dying, and it seems to be the same people who also lament Sony televisions for being so much more costly and yet they can't seem to make the connection.
Sony does have their problems now and again, but generally speaking on the whole you pay more up front for a Sony because it's going to last even the oleds are going to last and not have problems.
i saw someone replacing the chip on the mainboard using bga machine..
We have a 55" Toshiba 4K TV that we've had now for about 5 years and still going strong... Was under £400 and our son bought it for us as an anniversary gift ... I'd love one of the newer OLED TVs for better picture quality as the only real fault with ours is in the daytime reflection coming in on the screen means its impossible to see the picture and sometimes you just can't see anything in the shadows on the TV.... Having seen all the issues with the new ones though I think I will just keep my money
I have an LG Oled 65 inch. Have it about 4 years. Never had a problem. BTW, you sound like Michael Caine.
Hi , hope you don’t mind me asking, do you have any experience of TCL tv’s ❓, thanks
Interesting you mention Argos. Some of the Bush TVs are on offer. Are these worth looking at?
No
Bush is a trading name now mostly used by Argos. Bush TV's mostly made in Turkey by Vestel. The same same sets, with cosmetic differences as those badged JVC, Toshiba, Hitachi, Techwood and many many more. All the same manufacturer and based on the same chassis and PSU. All reasonable quality and good reliability. Vestel don't make LCD panels so these have been bought from a Chinese manufacturer for the last 4 or 5 years and very much have been the weak link.........many fail on average 1-3 years and too expensive to replace. A few Bush labelled TV's are completely Chinese in origin. A very good mid level set IMHO.
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Good info..are you in the tv business?
My LG OLED55C6V from 2016, is still going strong.. No burn on screen and absolutely no problems..
My LG Oled C3 lasted two weeks before the screen failed.
Out of the box it had banding and very poor greyscale despite doing a calibration
it was to no avail.
Then the LH side went darker than the right, this continued until it failed to show any image.
So back it went for a refund, the store had a load of them waiting to go back to LG.
I won't be buying anothe Oled, once the panel fails you are stuffed.
Yes I had an Lg OLED . After a software update it started to overheat and giving off a bad smell. I just sent it back to Curry's as it was still under warranty to get repaired but Currys couldn't repair this and I was given a voucher to buy another TV this was 3 years ago. I love OLEDs and LG OLEDs are fantastic. I decided to try a Sony bravia OLED which I currently have no issues with at the moment and I've had this for 3 years. I wouldn't be put off by buying another LG. Probably a good idea to have extended warranty
It's laughable. I bought 55" G2 in September 2022 and just before Christmas 2024 it developed vertical lines. Richer Sounds 6-year warranty to the rescue! It cost me £250 up front to get LG to manage the repair but Richer Sounds covered that - they've been great throughout.
LG send a courier (BJS from Walsall, West Midlands) who packed it into an old box stuffed with rags and the carted it off. That's was the last I saw of it. 3 weeks into the 14 working day repair promised by LG they had to admit they had no idea where it was. Totally lost in transit.
They've finally agreed to provide a new G4 as compensation, but that will take another 28 days to complete. The G4 is a great TV by all accounts, but I'm pretty much done with LG and would swap it for a Sony A95 in a heartbeat.
Samsung 8000u 50inch bought on black friday deal. Argos £329. The screen failed after 13 months later. They don't make tv like they used to back in the days. Lg oled tv picture quality is 2nd to none. But the screen burns issues and 3x price of normal tv. Make me think twice. Even LG claiming their current LG oled . Less likely to suffer from screen retention problems. Which I highly doubt. Led/Lcd is definitely the better option. Just make sure you get an extended warranty. 2nd time round.
Hope the G4 series is better im about to buy my first oled after having plasma and LCD. Tbey have 5 years on the G4 panels.
I have a sony 65 inch x95 tv and 55 inch CX bought around the same time in 2021 the cx is still ok but not had as much use as the Sony set.
I replaced an LG 3D Led TV with a Sony around five years ago. It was still working but it was pumping out mains noise into my homes mains power supply. When the TV was turned on, it would create an audible hum through my home theatre system that was loud enough to be heard sitting 4m away. Even unplugging the LGs HDMI cable from the AVR wouldn't stop it. It would only stop when the LG was switched off, not really ideal for a home theatre system. Fortunately the Sony is silent when running.
Have you tried swapping the live and neutral around. If it’s a two pin lead going into your tv? Had a similar problem when I lived in Germany. Worth a try. Good luck.
@@brianjames6890 I'm in Australia and the mains active/neutral pins are angled so can only fit into the wall outlet one way. Also, the mains lead on my old LG was internally wired so unless they f'd up at the factory, it was correctly wired to the mains power.
Thanks for the vid. I think the best buy is a Sony or LG TV non OLED.
I’ve had three lg oleds. Only one that has burn in is the oldest one that is over ten years old. Five year old is fine as is the new one.
We HAVE to have a bright display, as my wife has macular degeneration & her central vision is affected, which is where are the colour-sensitive cones are. Which is why we have an Oled TV...
Do other manufacturers OLED TVs say, like Samsung, fail just like the LGs?
Hey Allen, remember there slogan: LG Life is good ( well not when you open one of these ) lol😂 (:
LG's original name was Lucky Goldstar.
No issues with the 3LG OLEDs in the family 55C8, 55C9 and 48CX and the oldest is 5. Plus lots of sports watched on it. Fingers crossed things stay that way. You can get good deals, never paid over 1000 for one. But yeah pricey.
I would say fix it, depending on how many hours on the panel, I find picture quality so much better than LCD so saying you can buy a 55 for £300+ whilst true ignores fact quality isn’t there.
They are not so unreliable had my b6v since 2017 and it’s still going strong.
"Not so unreliable" says 1 guy with 1 TV to a repairer fixing 5 in a week! Let me do my maths or should I rely on a 1 man survey (answer is no).
@ And a repair man only sees the broken ones. Need more stats from all sides to draw a reliable conclusion
@@rjmahan Richer Sounds offers a 6 year warrant as standard. No way they would do that if the failure rate was high.
LG are one of the top brands who sell the most TVs, so naturally you will see more of them at repair shops than other brands. Also as anyone buying a cheap TV is going to just throw it away, not attempt a repair.
Still watching my almost 15 year old LG 50" inch plasma, though I have repaired it 3 times, next time will be RIP...
You need to watch this video, as you repeat yourself over and over.
It looks like an older LG Oled,model C8. I got this TV
Guessing the accountants have taken over from the engineers as usual. There always seems to be a race to the bottom in any developing tech where they try to adapt the electronics to as cheaper solution as possible consistent with keeping within the 1 year warrenty period. Part of this cost cutting involves subcontrtacting to outside manufacturers and lthe consiquent lack of effective quality control. The design to a price in this cut throat market is getting far too silly!
Avoid them Allen, you could try instart or what ever it is on the lg service remote, I’ve rescued a few with that 😊
You must let the customers get the s/h part. Also I've never had any problems with TV's. But i always run them much lower brightness.
ive just developed a backlight bleed on my 65" lg tv, it seems to be shining through from the bottom- up the screen about 3 inches, stands out more on bright pictures....gutted.
This is extremely common on all large LCD TVs, as the backlight diffuser de-laminates over time. Its not unique to any one brand that I'm aware of. My last Samsung has horrible colour issues (the backlight appears pink and changes tone across the screen) due to the same problem.
People also have a nasty habit of having their TV where sunlight can shine on it, or near radiators, which will destroy it much faster.
You say "a lot of money to part with", but a friend has just had (according to the engineer) "complete panel failure" on his £750 50" LG NanoCell TV that's only 3 years old. I've talked him into getting a 48" OLED TV as a replacement for £700 that's vastly superior to NanoCell in terms of picture accuracy. He's well aware of potential "burn-in" issues so is prepared to treat it with the same respect he would a CRT TV. That's all I've done with mine and it now has several thousand hours on it with around half of those watching 2.4:1 letterboxed content with no apparent ill-effects. I'm expecting it to become apparent at some stage as it's inherent to OLED, but I consider it a price worth paying as it's the only technology available in my price range that's capable of producing an accurate image.
Oleds are re not bright! They do have outstanding contrast. Have a LG oled b9 65 inch Had it around eight years. Zero burn in. Zero issues.
Lead free BGA's, get out of the tv game with sanity, buy and repair 80-90 midi keyboards. More rewarding, I did...😁😁
No way.
I have two sonys, a 50 and a 43, cost me £500 each in 2020.
Then a second hand Hisense, costing £100.
I don't need more.
A story like that just horrifies me.
I could also convert one of my 2 1980s CRT sets to accept a hdmi input.
Hello, came accross your channel by accident but glad I did. I have a 40" Panasonic which is approx 8-9 years old has has worked well apart from the very odd occasion where you press the on button and it does not turn on, after a few presses it comes on and no further issues. this happens about once a year maybe I should leave it on standby. Anyway my question, if OLED gives you image retention is it still better than mini led. My TV is probably on for around 8 hours each day, not all sports or news so maybe OLED would still be the best option. I think the picture quality is the most important for me and I want to get a larger 65" TV within the next year. prepared to spend up to around £2000 for a really good one, is it worth it or is it better to buy cheaper and replace in a few years. What are your thoughts on Projectors ? UST or normal ones? many thanks, have a good day.
Trouble is all the components are proprietry. might it be worth grabbing a few donor boards for the more problematic models and soldering new components on as needed. But then its a hell of a higher workflow and the customer may as well just buy a new tv. God this reminds me of the plasma days and exploding screens.
I abandon LG 2 years ago, after two TVs that didn't lasted more then 2 years. Don't get me wrong LG do fantastic TV and monitor panels, but somehow, their electronics have fallen into the cheap area. Is it their fault or a subsidiary ? Not sure. I bought a Samsung for the first time, and very happy with Qled. Hopefully it will last more then 2 years. I hope LG finds it's mark again. In the LCD, LED era, they were doing good TVs if I recall. I kind of miss the Sharp tvs, in a corner of my mind.
I love the LG brand especially the tvs ' I have 3' but the older ones with the scarlet back , I am just in the process of repairing one here in Spain just the capacitor blown on the inverter , I just repair as an hobby have a 55inch samsung in at the minute must weigh less then half of the LG 37s 'nothing to them, ps love the channel.
I have an LG G1 cost me 3k screen burn is impossible totally impossible because the screen has a screen saver that starts after 5 minutes of exactly the same image. I suppose if you buy cheap LG screens its possible
I have to say I don't have the patience to watch these videos without skipping about but I'm still watching my Sony Bravia KDL-40X3100 from 2008! The inbuilt tuner did die a few years back (I suspect common blown fuse), but since the HD part of it doesn't work in Australia anyway, I just hooked up a set top box I had lying around and it's been great ever since. And it's a 'dumb' free the air STB so no spying on me either. Streaming services not for me.
As far as the life span of electrical items is concerned, I think ALL electrical goods should come with a 10 year warranty no matter what. From the cheapest toaster to the most expensive TV. Why? Because there's simply far too much waste going into landfill because 1c parts fail. It's long past time to FORCE manufacturers to build better, more robust products and stop ripping off consumers.
Ironically, I have more confidence that the cheap toaster will outlast any TV these days.
We have a 47" LG TV from 2012 that still works perfect, even the crappy "magic remote." 47LS5700. It even outlived our 4 year old Samsung that started having issues with the led backlight.
Allen, you are far more qualified than me to talk about TV repairs but not too sure I agree with you on burn in etc?
I've had my 65 C9 for over five years and not a single problem. It's primary use is PC and console.
I make sure that compulsory pixel refresh runs every 4000 hours (I think it is) and I have logo luminosity on and I've seen nothing.
It's the best TV I've owned since the late 70s with one brilliant Panasonic Plasma ..
Not sure what OLED model you are repairing here but my mate is a TV specialist and he generally chooses OLED. The failure rates on LED and LCD are far worse..
But it is a lottery. Mass produced means there will always be a percentage of iffy models.
I personally can not go back to anything else after OLED. It's a night and day difference.
LED and LCD technology are effectively the same thing. The term "LCD" refers to the LCD panel or screen, where the image is generated. The term "LED" refers to the method of backlighting the screen..........The screen is the LCD panel! It is not true that they are less reliable than OLED, as most LED sets simply fail when one or more LED's in the backlight fail and need replaced, where most modern OLED TV's suffer from a fatal screen failure in their short life. It is mainly only recently manufactured LCD screens which fail that were produced in China. This includes most of the Samsung LCD's produced in approx the last 4 years..........after Samsung bought over a screen manufacturing plant.......in China!! When all is taken into consideration,the most reliable brand today is LG.........when you buy LCD.
When you purchase a Tv of expense like that , you should purchase a warranty as well really, now we know that items break down and we just don’t think it will happen , guess what they do…. You may be lucky and never use it or wish you had.
You buy it and if it fails you'll get blamed regardless
Think I'll avoid OLED and stick to LED. Won't be avoiding Life's Good though. I have several Life's Good LED, as do family and friends, they have all been good TVs for years with no faults. I also like Bony. Anything is better than Kestrel TVs under 10 different brands. I'd never buy those brands.
Every LCD TV I have owned started to go dull and have dirty screen effect within a couple of years. I've had zero problems with OLED so far.
It's just LG. Life is Good is their slogan not brand name.
I wouldn't believe this post that much because he doesn't state how old the TV is. I have 2 LG OLEDs and my relatives have 3. All are working perfectly. There were issues with OLED at the beginning but those issues have been fixed. Screen retention with current OLED TVs has been almost completely fixed. I have a 4 year old OLED that gets many hours of gaming on it a day without burn in issues. I run the screen maintenance feature often which helps prevent it.
Like everything today, not repairable but throw away. Realy good for the manufacturers and retailers but not for the planet. So much for net zero.
I'm still calling it a tcon,the same way I still call the firmware of a device,as BIOS...Oh well,can't teach an old dog new stufff
I was almost tempted to get a G4 but now not so sure! Burn-in doesn’t seem to be so much of a problem as it was, but the QD-OLED panels used by Samsung and some Sony seem to look likely to suffer from it more. And the micro-LEDs have bloom and the lesser OLED Sonys seems too black. Not convinced by OLED and it’s perfect blacks as I never see any perfect blacks in reality.
Firstly, night time without lights on isn't perfect black to you?
Secondly, the point of deep blacks is you see detail in dark scenes and it offers more illusion of depth due to the contrast ratio.
@@alexatkin maybe at night in an area without any light pollution but OLEDs show complete black in areas that in reality you don't see complete black, just a dark grey. They pick out detail that you don't see in reality, and show contrast ratios that may exist in reality, but they don't start from complete black upwards. Take all those demo screnes of flying over cities, it never looks like that when you are in a plane looking out at the city you are approaching. Those scuba/snorkling scenes never look as colourful and contrasty when you are doing it in real life. I've had times with my old Trinatron or Plasma when I've been at an event, come home and watched coverage of that event on the TV and it was similar to being there and looking through a pane of glass. Never quite seen that 'reallity' on an OLED, it is always 'enhanced'.
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If you see an OLED that doesn't look realistic like a plasma TV (my parents have a LG plasma and 2 nice Panasonic plasma TVs and I have 2 LG OLED TVs) then I would say the OLED picture settings need to be adjusted.
Definitely don't base this on in-store TV image as stores have terrible settings that make it look unrealistic.
The L in LG stood for ‘lucky’…
Sony Bravoa is the way to go
Sony Bravia 9...tv done right....
Yeah just wish all their HDMI ports were 2.1. Only two isn’t enough.
Same OLED, same problem. I had the very same TV, and the exact same thing happened.
It seems like these electronic companies have a scam going which serves their purposes. Component's failing, cant access certain parts of the TV and terminator parts that give up at a certain time. Well, just go out and buy another television at your expense and make some nice revenue for electronics corporations who must be rubbing their bloody hands with CON-stant glee. My wife's late deceased Mother gave us a Panasonic LED 55 inch TV from 2004. That TV has been used constantly ever since her passing in 2014. The TV is still going and has not failed once. These days, it's all about extorting revenue out of the customer with below par electronic equipment that is made to fail deliberately by design, including I might add, 4K Blu-Ray players.
Jesus Christ,I just bought an LG tv. I don’t need to hear this!
I'll stick with my old 46" Panasonic full hd 3d plasma
Same. Got 2 Panasonic plasma tvs, one 10 the other 12 years old, 48" and 50". Both work perfectly. And no permanent burn in. They're are build to last.
I've still got my Panasonic 55 plasma 12 years old now great pictures no jerky fast moving stuff like modern cheap TVs.
I hate LG aka Lucky Goldstar. Absolute rubbish
LG sets are actually some of the most reliable that you can buy.........if you buy LCD. The issue is with OLED technology only, really.
Get rid of it buy a black friday deal loads around at the moment Sad to see but thats the thing now with TVs they are sadly just not built to last very long
There's a lot in this.
Another LG Oled that is not worth repairing, sooner or later the penny will drop snd the sales will plummet.
I purchased a 65inch LG tv would never of purchased one if I new they had burn in no mention of it either from lg what's so ever over £2500 it cost plasma burn in was the death thd brand, LG is 7 years old the burn in started just over a year ago great picture but the reds are what got hit quite dark in the middle with netflix youtube letters and underline bars showing faintly. For the price of the TV LG should replace the screen......
7 years old is a long time for a tv…