Someone should make a website where people can enter their TV model and date that it died so we can have a database for how long specific TV models typically last before breaking. It seems that all TV review sites only review the features of a model and there is NOTHING about how long that TV will last. Wouldn’t it be nice to be able to divide the price of the TV by how many years similar models by a manufacturer in the past would last? If a TV (same manufacturer, earlier and similar model) costs $400 and lasts 4 years on average before breaking then we’d know that it’s $100 per year. This is the kind of data I want when buying a TV. 📺
Sounds like a gem of an idea! Might've saved me from buying a Sony Bravia oled TV. It died at exactly 2yrs old- UNREPAIRABLE!!! That works out to... a lot more than $100/yr!
I bought a Panasonic LCD TV in 2010, now, in 2024, the tv still works, it was one of the most expensive models, i got it for 500 euros back in the day, it came from 850 euros, so a nice deal, this tv has been in several households, after me, my mom used it, it came back to me and used as a game console tv, i got a Sony tv, and it went back to my mom as a bedroom tv, and it still works to this day!
That would be great. I had 2 Samsung TVs both the same model except for one was 55 and the other was 65. Both of them had issues after 1 year and a few months. Also, the same exact failure where the screen would be dark to black at one side of the TV. Checking reviews on that model it was actually a pretty common issue with that specific model number. I've since bought a 65 and 75 LG TV. The 65" is going on about 5 years and the 75" inch going on around 4 years.
@@Dijitz23 I had the same illumination problem with half of my TV screen with a 55” Vizio after about 3 years of regular usage. I understand that you can’t tell in advance if a brand new TV model is going to most likely fail in just a few years, but you can look at the history of the manufacturer with similar model sizes and price levels in the past and use those as some sort of benchmark.
That would be great apart from one major flaw. The individual TV chassis or screen designs only seem to remain in production for a very short time. So by the time you had a few years of failure data to harvest and collate, that actual TV model would be long out of production and replaced with another new or different design. So any model specific lifetime failure data would be irrelevant. The technology moves so fast. It is hard to know which make/model/screen technology to go for, or to recommend to others asking for your advice. I think most important is to get a 5y warranty, Then assume any time beyond that is just a windfall.
@@Taketimeout3that term "you get what you pay for" is a term created by the companies that create products designed to fail to shame the customers. That statement was designed take all responsibility away from the companies. All money is good, big or small. What's not good is a company that designs thier product to fail to sell more tvs. Or how about a car manufacturer that knows that thier car has design flaws that could kill families and does because they were too cheap to fix known issues. Is that a case of you get what you pay for?
@@tobyclayton2597 people that have nwver built anything dictating to those who do. Is just dumb and ineffective. Its almost always cheaper to make a new thing than fix a thing. Every boomer ive ever seen on my 44 years alive buys the cheapest possible. You cant survive in most markets like that thus the market got what the market paid for.
I worked part time repairing TVs back in the 1970s when I was going to college. TVs back then were mostly vacuum tubes and had cathode ray picture tubes. I got pretty fast repairing most TVs that came into the shop. I was a radio repairman in the Marines in the 60s, so I already had experience troubleshooting. In the shop was an old timer who taught me how to repair TVs. He was really fast and taught me his tricks. I'm 78 now and there's no way I could repair modern TVs. Cheers.
@@ON5ALE-Alessio Make sure it's a used board, if by some chance you acquire a new main PCB it may not have firmware installed and only warranty repairers have full access for that. A salvaged or reconditioned board should have working firmware installed.
The US government could be passing right to repair legislation, but they’re too busy laundering money, flooding our cities with foreign criminals, and tricking us into fighting with each other while they all laugh to the bank and their walled off mansions.
And parts available. That’s the biggest thing. I had a 32” that a friend gave me screen was destroyed in an accident. Was an RV TV set all it needed was a replacement screen. For a few days I couldn’t even find one then I saw a replacement that was available but cost almost as much as buying on brand new. Total scam.
@@BowsettesFury It isn't really a scam, but part of how the supply chain works. The OEM's buy the screens in bulk at a massive discount, and then put a markup on each TV after totalling the bill of materials and labour up. That's why parts for individual TV's seem expensive as the bulk discount isn't there. The screen is the most complex and delicate part to manufacture, especially with newer tech like OLED.
@@supergeekjay Nope, the bulk discount is not only there but also the middleman markup eliminated, if the manufacturer sells the replacement parts. If they can get their whole TV product distributed to many thousands of retail outlets, then it's nothing to have a single distribution point for replacement parts, even if that does involve a middleman because they don't have their own warehouse space in the country they're servicing. At the same time, it requires overproduction of spare parts, many of which won't be needed and eventually dumped on the gray market if not put in a dump, or only a small % of parts recycled. SO, the issue is cost to do it, and eWaste, but then there is also the eWaste from not being able to repair a faulty TV. Unfortunately, most consumers don't have the skills nor want to risk the replacement part investment to try to DIY a repair, and 3rd party repair tends to cost more than a set is worth, if more than ~3 years old. You're right that it isn't a scam, but the industry does need more oversight into penalties for not making more durable products, even if it is just mandating longer warranties, and heavy penalties for making fulfillment of warranties burdensome. A lot of companies will just brush off customers, even defaulting to using poor english on purpose to drag out a simple correspondence.
I have still my old trusty Panasonic TH-65PF10EK industry plasma display sitting right behind my Highsense 65“ tv. So if the latter fails, I just pull it to the side and I am ready to go. If this should happen during the winter month, I may use the plasma display as an infrared heater as well.
My 58” Samsung plasma is still going strong and looks great. Helps to warm the room in the winter as well. 😂 They just don’t make anything of quality anymore.
Same here I have a 15 year old Panasonic Plasma and a 10 year old LG plasm and they both work great and no burn in either---yep great heat source in the summer as well!
@@joes9954 We were forced to 'upgrade' our Sammy plasma over the summer, via a child being incredibly stupid with a game controller. Ugh, I was gutted, and most things I enjoy I keep in good condition many, many years past their prime. Still miss the incredible black range of that TV, though the OLED is nice to look at with the better compatibility of 4k and such.
Hi Allen. Its refreshing of you to admit that some things are nearly impossible to repair and also not worth the effort. Maybe I will be more selective in what I tackle next, and not take on anything and everything. I like you hate stuff going to landfill. Thanks for the video. Sometimes failure provides a better lesson than success. Keep up the good work. Vic.
It's true. Not much is worth repairing these days from a time/money standpoint. A lot of repairs can be extremely time consuming, fiddly and technically challenging or practically impossible. Not uncommon to go to a job, spend over half a day fault finding only to conclude that it would have been more worth your time to just rip shit out and start anew. We repair stuff because it gives us a sense of personal satisfaction, having overcome a challenge and solved a problem that most people would not consider tackling, and of course, to re-purpose something that was going to be thrown away. The old stuff you could just crack open the case and everything would be there laid bare and fairly accessible; new stuff is all overlayed, microsoldered by computers, glued in place, security screws, designed to break if tampered with, never to be opened again, except by a pure madman.
It's been this way for many years we had throwaway CRT TV's . I walked into a large warehouse with hundreds of these tv sets stacked on pallets. They were only a few years old. They were being refurbished and sold to other countries.
There are not many people repairing TVs, a lot of the problem is getting the spares and the cost of spares, they are not really made to be repaired, most parts costing more than its worth, some people can work at component level, which makes repair cheaper.
@@stevenc5227 Component level repair is the only repairs you can do that actually need skill. Replacing entire boards is easy, but no fun, and very wasteful. I miss the days of repairable stuff.
@@supergeekjay Yes most electrical items nowadays are not repairable, even electric cars, when the battery dies, you throw it away as the battery costs more than the car, and they call it green technology, what a joke😂
It's usually board swaps these days. Untrained techs swap out the boards, if that doesn't work they'll say "Beyond Economic Repair" and sell you a new TV....
We've got one of these in our workshop for the guys to display drawings and CAD models on. Had it three years, no issues and it gets used all day. I think it cost us £300. If (when) it fails, we'd probably just buy another. If we'd paid £1500 or more for an equivalent Sony or Samsung, it would be a different matter. Part of the throwaway culture I'm afraid.
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Also those expensive Sony, Samsung, etc. products aren't even 50% better never mind 5 times. If those companies were confident their products would outlast Hisense they'd come with a much longer warranty.
I found half dozen of these over a year or so of trash picking. They all appeared to be new, or nearly new, only one would briefly work, then shut down. I'll probably end up stripping them for parts. Hisense actually had a decent reputation before they started making lowball products for Walmart, et. al. But lowball toys are what people are demanding, so here we are.
Walmart shouldn't have needed to have vendors cheap down their normal product lines ever since they introduced their own house brand ONN which can serve that price point purpose.
@guruoo According to what I've read Roku simplifies the navigation in a TV and provides access to more content. There are even Roku adapters to upgrade ordinary smart TVs. On that basis Roku would seem to be more than mere bloatware.
Hi Allen........love the channel. I have to disagree with almost everyone.......even those who have so far disagreed with you too! I am not a particular lover of these sets, and I agree that they have been made "to a budget", but they are not as difficult to fit LED's to as everyone is suggesting. There is an easier way! Firstly, as has been said, they are pretty easy to disassemble. The first trick is not to "cut" the screen out of the frame, but to remove the screen attached to the frame. This is easy........tease the frame off the metalwork on the top and both sides first with a small screwdriver or better still a plastic lever, and "unclip" the bottom of the frame from the bottom of the metalwork, under the tabs. You will find that leaving the screen on the frame makes it easier to move, store and refit. Secondly, on to the subject of the black tape which holds the white reflector sheet down. I think that the mistake you (all) are making is that you are trying to remove the sheet from the tape. The trick here is to leave the tape on the white sheet. To do this firstly pull the sheet and tape off along one long edge (some do not have tape here). Next start at one corner of the side that you started working on. The rest of the black tape is fitted vertically, and over the strips. Tease up the end of the first strip that you see in the corner with a flat blade. Press the white sheet back down on it again, but not the last 5mm or so. Then use this "unstuck" section to lift the reflector sheet away with the tape still attached. Stick the exposed end to the sheet. This method keeps the tape flat to the sheet when removed, and avoids "ripples". Repeat this process along the screen until about 4" of each strip of tape has been removed from the metalwork. Now "rip" off the rest using a side to side motion with both hands until all is removed just past the last strip of LED's and stop there. Leaving the last horizontal strip of tape in place, and not removing the sheet fully from the metalwork makes re-fitting the white sheet really easy as it is already aligned. When clipping the plastic frame and screen back in place you might find the two top corners tricky to get in to place, and the temptation is to press too hard. Don't do it!.......fit them fairly loosely and complete the job. When the TV is back upright, and on its feet, tease the corners back into place with gentle pressure while inserting a small flat screwdriver between the plastic and the metalwork, starting from around 2" away from each corner from both sides. It always works. This may all sound complicated, but it is really easy to do and is by far the best way to disassemble these sets, and many other Hisense models. There are a couple of Hisense models where the screen is fully bonded in place, and we don't do these due to the risk of the screen breaking. These are not the same as the model that you have based the video on. I repair all of my TV's in my customer's homes, and I did two of these on Saturday, plus two 65" Sonys (!!). The Hisense LED replacement takes me an hour or less to complete. Regards Ken
@@vadnegruOnly to a moron. .. To the rest it simply shows that he's cracked the code on proper easy safe reliable Hisense non fully bonded screen removal and describes it in detail for free to anyone not intimidated by reading something longer than a paragraph. I find it sad that ppl forget or simply do not realize that in the days before RUclips that was how everyone outside of formal technical institute Classrooms learned and applied technical repair knowledge, out of books, tsb's, trade journals etc etc. and skip to present day and u have people avoiding entire product lines just to avoid a bit of reading ..
I started in the TV repair trade as an apprentice in the early 1960s. I did see all this move to make for sale and not for repair in the late 1970s so decided to turn to Industrial Electronics that more or less lasted as a living until I retired, only due to the fact that industry did seem to keep products for far longer than the household entertainment industry. Watching your video made cold shivers run down my spine glad I am retired, I do wish you well in tour TV repair business.
Its not that, the video is wrong - its a cheap tv, its not made to be repairable and whilst they arent the best quality the comment that they will only last three years is simply rubbish. That said, I agree that tv's should be repairable
@@TCBOT lasting is a relative term. I've seen Hisense tvs lock up and reboot out of the box randomly. Especially if you live in hotter climates. You might be able to get the TV to display video but the "smart components" in them seem to go first. Then different parts fail.
@@francistaylor1822 have to admit that the last one of these we bought lasted for 6 or 7 years but you're right, they are cheap and the price reflects the product.
Your contempt and anger has earned you another subscriber. When I was a nipper, I'd buy busted televisions from charity shops, and replace the valves. These were pieces of furniture, with beautifully crafted wooden cabinets. My father took them back to the shops in despair, as I'd used up the cellar with projects. Ironically, I haven't had a television since 1999.
I hope you don't remove my comment because this advice can help anyone watching, but I disagree with a lot of your opinions with this model. I work in a very busy TV repair centre and I fit backlights to these exact models on a fairly regular basis (3x 65" in the past week). First, lets start with the difficulty level of the job. VERY easy TV to strip down. No bezel to mess with, cut the screen out, lift it with a frame with suction cups, lift the sheets off. Cut a line in the reflector sheet under each strip, replace (ALL) strips, tape your cuts back down, refit sheets, remove old adhesive from screen and chassis, apply new tape, position screen, then rebuild. Can be done single handed within 2 hours. The only time consuming part is removing adhesive. Secondly, while I agree that the quality of the backlights are poor, these sets are otherwise extremely reliable. We have NEVER had a single one of these in for screen failure, not one. Meanwhile top brands such as Samsung, we see a dozen or more every week, also some Sonys and to a lesser extent LG. Don't even mention the complete trash Vestel brands such as Hitachi, Toshiba, JVC, Bush etc who's screens seldom last 2 or 3 years. Regarding electronic faults, I think in the last few years I've only seen less than 5 or 6 Hisense TVs with any kind of circuit related issues. Thirdly, I think the capacitor might have fell off when you dragged the TV out from under the screen. You should either remove all the boards during this procedure, or use the magnetic chassis stands that are designed to stop components being dragged off. I hope this helps some of your viewers.
When components rain from the board, don't mind me if I find the quality suspect. For a fair number of units I've looked at, the best disassembly method for them would involve a rubbish compactor.
@@shaunmorrissey7313I see these models for backlight replacements only. I already agreed the backlights are crap. But a backlight fault is a fairly easy repair. You need to read my comment again. These models do not have any other problems. Compare that to a Samsung/Toshiba/hitachi/jvc/bush whose screen fails after 2 years and is unrepairable.
Reminds me of trying to do DIY servicing & replacement of filters, bulbs, etc. on my Citroën C4. It was deliberately designed to make such tasks horrendously difficult.
I wonder if it's an absolutely bonkers nonsensical power supply that supplies negative voltage instead, so like white is positive because it's near ground level, but red is the "hot" side with like -70v or something. Still makes no sense whatsoever, but damn a random color code is just... really, why?
I have owned a 65 inch Hisense for 6 years. Never had any problems. Marketed as a Sharp in the USA they bought the company so they could use the name, which is respected there.
I have had 3 Hisense TVs. The first was a 55 inch 55H6E that died within two weeks of purchase. I returned it to my local Walmart. They exchanged it for the 60H6E, which was on sale for $40 less than the 55 inch. $40 back, and a bigger screen, win-win, and that one is still working over 6 years later. The last one is a 75 inch 75U7G. Over 3 years later, still going strong, amazing picture and sound no soundbar needed, and I would put this up against any of the big 3 at twice the price.😊
Until Sharp sued them to regain control of their brand name. That said I have 40" Hisense that I've had for 4 years. No problems with it. I like it better than my LG, the most annoying TV I've ever owned.
This channel is not based on market data, but only what they hear and how many models come in for repairs. They fail to take into account the fact that the most popular brands are going to have the most failures even if the percentage of them that fail is lower than a less popular brand. Another factor that would skew their results is their customer base.
Built to budget... It seems that components easily fall off cheaply made PCBs these days. A great effort you made and I felt your frustration. Unfortunately we live in a throw away world now. Great work and keep the video coming. Thanks.
I bought a Hisense P50 in Australia with a 3 year warranty. Mounted it onto an office wall to show clients photos. At night I connected a 4k security NVR but all it ever got used is to show some cops crimes across the road. Having this TV on the network it kept randomly turning on until I upgraded its firmware. After another firmware upgrade its sensitivity on some UHF channels dropped. Since TV is so crap here I only clocked up perhaps 30 hours of on time over its 3 years. Then 6 months later not being used, it was completely dead. Its micro does not signal the psu to turn on, stby is ok. We have a federal law saying TV's supposed to last longer like 5 years but this is rubbery and once you buy it in a business name it is junk right after 3 years. TV makers replace their LCD manufacturing plants every few years and place them into the cheapest countries they can find. Thailand, Indonesia, Vietnam and new they are making ground in India. Apart from computer printers being the worst, I see a similar trend in washing machines where there is no limit on parts like any other consumer product. Meanwhile I repaired some commercial CRT screens. There you can access capacitors, measure their esr and get results.
You are absolutely right about the manufacturers picking the cheapest location for manufacturing till they move on to a new one. India has seen a lot of new facilities being set up because of government incentives. Dixon Technologies is one of the biggest players. The quality is just crap. I bought an entry level Sharp made TV which was actually made by Sharp during the COVID lockdowns and that TV was better than the new TVs that I see in stores now. Sadly, it died after a power surge and the business that brought the brand to India then has moved on to other brands.
We, wifey and I, own two LG TVs! And for the most part have had zero issues with either of them. I honestly don't remember how old either is. But it is certainly older than five years for sure... Great videos, Allen. Keep them coming. I retired as an Engineering Technician and have repaired AND reverse engineered so many circuits in my life time. So your videos are interesting to me... Thumbs Up!
My TV is over 19 years' old - will be 20 years' in January. I hardly ever watch TV these days - just the news and that's pretty much it unless someone tells me there's something special and makes a point of saying I should see it. About three or four years ago, it stopped working, and I thought before I go and buy a new expensive TV for something I hardly ever use, let's take it to our local repairman. He fixed it! There was just something wrong with its on off switch. It's a Phillips Flat TV from 2006. HD prepared, but it isn't HD I am seeing (or needing). Now that Norway no longer has analogue TV I am using a TV decoder from the fibre Internet, which couples into the TV using an old fashioned computer connector. Works perfectly.
I totally agree with you mate. I stiil watch my Sony 68cm cathode ray tube tv with a set top box. Resolution not great but does the job. All this technology tvs cars etc too over the top. I dont need it. Modern equipment = planned obsolesence = rip off. The content of free to air channels is mostly crap and so many adds designed for empty heads the normal here in Australia. Sounds like you have the same issues in Norway. Your Viking ancestors would be turning in their graves. Take care. Regards Aussie Bruce.
Yep, sticking with my old Panasonics. 3x 42" plasmas and a 32" LCD (with fluorescent backlights) in my son's room. Touch wood, I've never had an issue with any of them and they're still quite well-specced by today's standards, with built in Freeview, Freesat, FTA satellite and network media browser. No smart functionality of course but that's what Chromecasts and Fire sticks are for. Plus they make great room heaters in winter! Had a Vestel Bush (from Argos) for a couple of years, cheap nasty crap, it wasn't even 3 years old when it packed up.
I had once a case of newly assembled PCBs coming from our subcontractor and they had a problem of certain two capacitors falling off almost by themselves, even though the soldering was made with stencils and assembly with a machine. They came right off by just slightly knocking on them with a pencil. Turned out that the subcontractor had ordered the boards from some el-cheapo factory that had plated them poorly and it affected only certain areas of the boards but not everywhere. The pads were fine to resolder, just the coating on the copper seemed to have not plated well. This reminded me of this incident and I thought maybe Hisense had used a similar low cost factory for their boards and got similar results.
there's been a 65 tcl open on my bench for a month, replaced the back lights but while tv was apart waiting for parts a guess somebody leaned on the outer screen and it spidered the attached under screen which i had no idea had happened until after ordering and installing the new parts so now i get to wait for someone to toss another 65 so i can snag the outer screens. why am i going through all this for a tcl, i bought this tv for my dying mother and it gave her the only little bit of joy she had the last 6 months of her life so it's not going in a dumpster however stupid that is......
Not stupid at all. I still have my mom's old desktop computer with a CRT monitor. Has all her stuff on it and I just can't get rid of it for some reason.
A great video. We have a Hisense TV in on bedroom and have neverhad a problem in over 4 years+. But, what I would like to say is how perfect your voice would be for a local or national radio /podcast voice.
Disposable items these days - like most things ! I returned to UK after living in Australia for 20 years in 2007. Since then I’ve gone through 5 x “smart TV’s “ !! Five in 17 years ! All were big brand names, Sony, Panasonic, LG all developed faults like pixel burn, cloud patches etc…. One of them was still inside the 12 month warranty from new, (from Curry’s ) so they took it back to send to repairer - after 2 weeks they replaced it with a new one - presumably it was cheaper than repairing the broken one ! When we returned from Australia we brought with us a 1 year old (2006) first generation Panasonic Vierra Plasma HDMI tv 50”. It is in our conservatory and still works perfectly well, not so much as a pixel “dot” and has never missed a beat. Almost 20 years old plasma and has seen off 5 newer “Smart” TV’s ….. There’s something to that old saying, “they don’t make ‘em like they used to”…….
I bought a new Hisense 40" 4L smart TV on Nov 25th 2016, ready for the family Christmas, and it is still going great. It was a bargain then and has worked very well, even the smart TV part is still fully functional
That's quite interesting, its good to hear of a positive experience. Our £279 50" has broken after 25 months of intensive daily use, is yours used daily or just occasionally? There are a few retailers offering 5 or 6 year warranties on these TVs and part of me is tempted to buy another one.
My hisense has been the main TV for the house. It was bought as a good but not top of the range model. I travel a lot but family at home use it every day. Which magazine has some of the hisense models as best buy, so the brand is recognised as OK. I am an engineer, ex broadcast engineer, I can gauge reasonable quality, and I have previously had responsibility to assess studio video quality for independent TV in the UK. I have been satisfied with my TV but I would use which magazine or another review source which has the chance to go beyond a single person's experience to help choose
I've had 3 Hisense TVs. The first was a 55 inch 55H6E that died within two weeks of purchase. I returned it to my local Walmart. They exchanged it for the 60H6E, which was on sale for $40 less than the 55 inch. $40 back, and a bigger screen, win-win, and that one is still working over 6 years later. The last one is a 75 inch 75U7G. Over 3 years later, still going strong, amazing picture and sound no soundbar needed, and I would put this up against any of the big 3 at twice the price. The 60 inch ran 12 to 16 hours a day until replaced by the 75 inch, which now runs 12 to 16 hours a day. The 60 inch now gets limited use.
New sub. Great video. I have been fixing electronics for over 25 years, and seen every brand possible. Hisense is a good TV for the little money. But.... you MUST expect it wont last long. Some do, and most dont. It is definitely a budget TV.
Manufacturers should make the LED strips slide and lock in place for easy R&R, especially with their high failure rates. Sad how most of this stuff is disposable garbage nowadays. The same applies to everything. Home appliances, yard equipment, automobiles, etc.....😣
Hisense Group are a Chinese multinational major appliance and electronics manufacturer. The headquarters are in China in Qingdao Shandon Province. [ Please blame Google for any incorrect information ]
What a marvellous channel! Just watched this video. I still run a Panasonic Quintrix 28" flat screen crt 100hz scanning. Bought it early 2000s. Works perfectly. Subbed❤👍
Sadly my 13" commodore monitor died after only 32 years. I used a vhs machine for the tuner. I want a flat screen for the storm shelter to watch the weather, and no one makes a small flat screen anymore.
I have had 3 Hisense TVs. The first was a 55 inch 55H6E that died within two weeks of purchase. I returned it to my local Walmart. They exchanged it for the 60H6E, which was on sale for $40 less than the 55 inch. $40 back, and a bigger screen, win-win, and that one is still working over 6 years later. The last one is a 75 inch 75U7G. Over 3 years old, and still going strong, amazing picture and sound no soundbar needed, and I would put this up against any of the big 3 at twice the price. 👍🏾
I have a 55in HiSense TV and about 12 months ago a capacitor exploded and I could see the smoke coming out of the vents. However the TV still worked, but I was too scared to turn it off so I left it switched on for months. One day our 240V mains supply dropped out and I crossed my fingers the TV would switch on, when the mains came back on, the TV still worked. It still works today and it is about 3 years old.
My main TV is a Sony 55" i baught in Japan in May 2007. 1080P 60Hz neon tube backlight . Was a top of the range Bravia. I use it here with a 220V to 100V transformer since mid 2009. All menus in Japanese. No english. Maybe 4 to 6 hours per day on. Still works perfectly in 2024...😊 i will keep it as long as it works. My cat loves walking on it. Doing u turns also.
Similar thing for me here in Singapore, where I hunted down and bought a used one of the few true 1080p 32" TVs we officially got (because I was sick and tired of brand new "HD-Ready" 1366×768 trash), which happened to be a Sony Bravia from 2014, and it still works perfectly aside from the online features being almost entirely dead, but to compensate it has great CEC support so I can plug in an internet TV box. The model I found, KDL-32W700B, happened to also be sold in Japan with the same model number (but with an ISDB tuner instead of DVB and having a Japanese-only UI) as I found out while doing some research before I bought it. I'm aware that there's the TCL model 32S5400, but that didn't exist at the time and it also has less external device inputs. Edit: Prior to buying the TV, I was even considering importing a 32" 1080p TV from the UK, but knew the import costs would've been expensive and there may have been software locks. Edit 2: Another family member has a 2020 model Prism+ Q55, which itself is basically a Skyworth 55Q20 customised for the Singaporean market, and that was getting slow, frequently pausing Netflix playback, and frequently disconnecting its network connections, but a RUclips video I saw showed that it's likely the internal storage failing. I did a factory reset which extended the life a bit, but it's starting to fail again. They insisted on buying that TV even though I tried to get them to get a used Sony TV instead, all because they just saw the price and the sponsored reviews. They then wanted a soundbar which I bought only to find that the TV has poor CEC support and no eARC support, and then they didn't even bother using the soundbar.
I still use a 37" Sony LCD TV from 2007. Apart from the power button no longer working (need to turn it on or off at the wall) and a couple of dead pixels, it works fine. It also doesn't have any of the "smart TV" spyware crap modern TVs have in them!!
@@TheKnobCalledTone. amazing. No good-old CRT could have done that , the tube would be fried or quite dimmed by so many hours ON .... superiority of LCDs ! wondering now about the "marvelous" OLED technology, will it last well or end up being like those "Pioneer Plasmas" back in days. Burning out after some few years of use ? who still has a functioning plasma display ?
Same here: 12 year old 32inch LCD TV which I use as a monitor for the very PC I am typing this on. Dynex is the no-name brand, but this has been one solid reliable beast. The only thing starting to go is the 'on' button from so much use. ;-) A simple fix even for a novice like me when it goes for good.
Hisense is the largest TV manufacturer in China by market share since 2004. Hisense is also an OEM, so some of its products are sold to other companies and carry brand names not related to Hisense.
I've had two of these (43 and 55 inch) for about 4 years. They may die suddenly someday but, so far they've been great. I keep them off when not being used and they're kept clean and in an climate controlled home. I hope they last but if not, no problem replacing for this price.
@@B9NE We've bought brand name electronics in the past that only lasted a few years. With electronics these days, often by the time they break there's new tech anyway. I won't waste money on name brands unless I know for sure it'll last and won't be obsolete soon.
No problem replacing for that price but its more e-waste polluting the environment. Everything is throw away. I'm old enough to remember my parents and grandparents tv's, refrigerators, clothes washers that lasted 30 years and were still working. I don't think anything lasts that long anymore.
Fixed my 65 Hisense, took me half a day being very careful just using a large cardboard to slide the screen off and replacing all the leds. In the end works
They're one of the biggest and most popular brands. Even if their failure rate is lower than other brands we'd expect to see higher numbers of failed Hisense models.
I remember buying the LG 50" a few years ago which failed one week out of warranty, the store i bought it from (Richer sounds) in Glasgow didn't want to know, after research it turned out the transformer which powered the tv into life was too weak (A known fault apparently) the lg had 3 boards on the back so i took off the board with the power transformer and went to a young chinese lad doing home repairs in Govan, (I had already purchased un upgraded transformer chip) he soldered it back in for £15 and the tv has been faultless for 5 yrs now,, keep up the good work.
Got seven years out of my last Hisense 50" 4K slim virtually frameless TV. The picture purity and definition was admirable for the price (£270 in ASDA) Sound volume was pretty decent considering the shallow casing. Remote control a bit limited and the smart interface looked like something from a TEMU smartwatch, but as a display panel I thought it was a decent balance between cost and quality. I guess you just either get lucky or unlucky with these. It lasted longer than the sony bravia it replaced (which cost 3.5 times the price). I'm seeing a trend of major brands subbing out their budget models to turkey and the far east... brands that used to mean something in the electronics world like Toshiba and sharp
I have never bought a TV. When I was younger, I had a 25" CRT TV that my parents had bought for me. Eventually, I used it less and less as I mostly watched stuff on my computer monitor. Eventually, I realized that I could plug my graphics card into a modern TV and enjoy watching stuff on a larger screen, however I didn't want to spend the money on such a screen. Luckily, in this area we have "bulk trash pickup" twice a year where the city will haul away for free, almost anything you put on the curb. People use this time to get rid of all the stuff they no longer want, including TVs. I have 3-4 40" TVs that work fine, with three of them being Samsung. A 46" Sony Bravia, a 43" Insignia, a 42" Vizio, a 40" Toshiba (one stuck green pixel), and a bunch of smaller ones in the 20-30" range. A 50" Samsung 4K smart TV that glitches after about 3 hours. Also, a 60" Vizio with half the backlights burned out, which people have said is a common problem with that model. I kept it, but haven't wanted to spend the $80+ to get a new set. I keep bringing TVs home, hoping to get larger ones that work. A few weeks ago, I brought home a 55" Hisense TV. It wouldn't turn on. The standby light just blinks. I tried pressing the reset button, holding the power button and all the other useless tricks that never seem to work. I'm not an electronics tech, so I wouldn't even know how to try diagnosing it. At the moment it's just leaning up against the wall because I haven't had the opportunity to get rid of it. My friend warned me that it was a garbage brand, but I figured it was free, so I didn't have anything to lose.
Like all new tech, it's not designed to be repaired. You're supposed to use it for 2-3 years, (or until it becomes defective), and then replace it, and throw the old one away. Planned obsolescence by manufacturers who know that if they were to make them to last, they'd be out of business in 5 years, as there's really no new ways of improving upon them, i.e. bring out better, more advanced models in future.
Thanks for the honest work on this TV. I detest the surface mount stuff greatly and from what I saw back in the late 1970's the quick way these are bulk soldered at the factory, I can guess it is even more pron to have solder issues. Now I can guess you already know this; hang on to this TV till you get another just like it same model type, then open it up and taker goo close pictures of all of the boards and all of the connections. Then compare them to the one you almost had working. You should fine your missing part, or connection issue. I would also guess if it just doe not come one it is a problem in the power supply section, maybe even a dead capacitor. I started repairing computer flat panels of my own a few years back and found the main problem is the capacitors getting weak. Replace all of the can capacitors, and it is fine again. I also fixed older TV's 2007- 2009 era with capacitor issues. One I had to replace all of the caps on the power board except the giant one. (LG 31.5 inch premium model LCD) The other just two that leaked on the power board in the power switch area (Dell 50 inch Plasma TV).
Hi thanks for sharing your video, I always remember my old gaffer saying buy it cheap buy it twice . When handling screens be careful of the corners of the screen ,even the tiny-us touch can crack the screen and this was in a 55 inch Panasonic tv.
If anyone reads this, TURN YOUR BACKLIGHTS DOWN, on all your LED screens. Laptops, TV's, monitors, tablets and even phones!! You'll extend their life if you do so. Manufacturers turn brightness up so they fail early, they'll then say, "We can sell you a new one, your warranty is up!"
@Daviddeath84I've had good luck with hisense tvs. The next tv i buy will be a hisense oled, great looking picture and pretty good reviews from what ive seen.
You're a braver man that I to attack this TV. Surprized to see on the back label "Assembled in Europe" . This is one TV amongst several other brands I won't touch.
Yep! I had that exact same problem with my 55" Hisense tv. It had a beautiful display and I love the features, but this happened after about 4 months. I took it apart, and the backlight LED's were glued to the case. I turned it in to be "recycled" because I couldn't find replacement backlights.
Hey bud. I feel your pain. I am also a TV/Computer tech, and have run into these issues as well. However, I came to a different conclusion than you did. We have repaired many Hisense and other budget brand TVs. We have also repaired a ton of brand name TVs with similar problems. I needed a new TV a few years ago What did I purchase? I purchased a no-name (Aevis?) 55" 4K TV, on Black Friday, for under $400 Canadian Why? Because I see as many brand-name TVs in my shop as I see the budget brands. The difference is, the brand name TVs cost at least twice as much, and often quite a lot more. And although they may have better signal processing, they are still made cheap. The backlights are still trash. I figured, if I am going to have to replace my TV in under 5 years, then I want a cheap TV that won't be such a large loss. Most of the time backlight faults can be repaired, and we insist on replacing all the strips, not just one. This is because we find that often the backlights are over-driven, and although the other strips may work, they have likely been damaged. We found that when replacing just the bad LED, or just the one strip, the TVs would come back a few months later with more bad LEDs. So, we replace all the strips, and we adjust the backlights a little dimmer if we can. The odd thing is, my cheap sub $400 Canadian TV is still working. And it has a half decent 4K image as well. I don't see the point of purchasing an expensive TV, especially since the "brand name" TV manufacturers can't even give you more than a 1 year warranty. How are they any better than the budget brands? Why should I pay $2K for a TV that has the same warranty as a sub $400 Chinese TV? And lasts about the same amount of time as well? So now, I am barely even using my TV anymore. I have a beautiful monitor for my PC, and I watch almost all media on it. If my TV ever breaks down again, I will just replace it with some cheap 32" TV worth a hundred bucks and keep using my PC for media consumption. I am disillusioned with TV manufacturers. They don't want to build a decent product, they don't want to give you a half decent warranty, they don't want to repair their own products, they don't want shops like yours and mine to be able to get parts, they want you to throw your TV in the trash and go buy another one. OK, so I did that, and it wasn't a brand name TV. They can suffer. Oh, and my monitor has a 3-year warranty.
You could tell your viewers they should turn their backlight down as much as possible for comfortable viewing. This will extend the life of their cheap TV. ;)
I've had 3 Hisense TVs. The first was a 55 inch 55H6E that died within two weeks of purchase. I returned it to my local Walmart. They exchanged it for the 60H6E, which was on sale for $40 less than the 55 inch. $40 back, and a bigger screen, win-win, and that one is still working over 6 years later. The last one is a 75 inch 75U7G. Over 3 years later, still going strong, amazing picture and sound no soundbar needed, and I would put this up against any of the big 3 at twice the price. The 60 inch ran 12 to 16 hours a day until replaced by the 75 inch, which now runs 12 to 16 hours a day. The 60 inch now gets limited use. I am happy with the brand if I should get another set... It will definitely be a Hisense. 😊
I had a sharp aquios 42" flatscreen I bought off a friend and it lasted me 15 years, almost always on and I myself ended up selling it still working. Pay the price for a good brand and it will last.
My Aquios is also around 15 years old and will probably last another 15. I want to upgrade to Oled but must wait until this one gives up. As you said, pay the price for a good one.
I have that exact tv and i bought it in 2018 and its survived 4 moves since then. Im pretty happy with that i expect to replace it sometime soon but its still working great.
I don't like too much regulations, however only TVs that can be easily opened and repaired to enable 10+ years of use should be allowed to be imported...
I recently bought a 1985 GE 19" CRT that still has the original "backlight" and caps that surprisingly worked for 5 bucks at a thrift store. I think the simulated wood grain finish and rabbit ears for the RF screws makes it top shelf but it being cable ready makes it an easy sell than with a Hisense.
They aren't alone, many cheap products are the same. We haven't had an electronics repair business in our town for 20 years and it's because of this fact. I used to be an electrician and as an apprentice and afterwards as a tradesman I repaired uncountable electric kettles and toasters. These haven't repairable for decades, use then throw away.
Sanctions should be imposed on companies that manufacture this garbage, not only to punish them for contributing so much waste to landfills, but to price these televisions such that it would dissuade consumers from buying them when a real television is only a little bit more expensive.
Most everything made now is garbage, paying more doesn't save you from that. From stuff designed to be unrepairable to ultra thin ones that overheat and die prematurely.
I stopped repairing flat screens on the side a few years ago when the bottom fell out of the cost. Used to buy a broken one for $20 (no cracked screens) Then brought it home, tore into it. Usually blown capacitors (cheap china garbage "CapXon" junk mostly) Spent about $20 or so in parts. Flipped it back for about $80-$100. Made some fun money that way. But the quality went down with the cost big time. My aunt just had her 42" Viz fail just out of warranty- I've got an older 50" 4k Samsung that's still going strong and it's several years old- But I can see a couple parameter bright spots where trouble's brewing.
@@kipper2k No. Durability has little to do with how expensive the TV screen is. A more expensive screen can break just as quickly as a cheaper screen, except that a more expensive screen has a better image and more adjustment options and functions.
My last 5 TV's have been "Hisense" Roku models and they have NEVER given me a problem or quit working! Modern TVs aren't worth repairing when you can replace them for the repair cost.
I own two Hisense TV's: a 58" and 65", and both are several years old. Never had an issue with either of them, similar to yourself, so I have to agree with you. Hisense TV's are reliable and a bargain price for what you get for your money.
Thanks for the disassembly. I have a Samsung UN58TU7000FXZC built October 2020. It lasted 2 years before the TV just shut down while watching a show. Samsung warranty is one year, Costco (where I bought it) is two years, but it died just after the 2 years, so they even blocked my phone number and didn't want to hear about it. I watched a YT video showing how to troubleshoot and fix this tyle of TV and ended up with two slivers of transparent tape on two contact tracers on the left side of the screen. I got it back working but lost some colours on that side of the screen. You get used to it, and for whatever reason, some shows are perfect from left to right. Bottom line: I will watch and fix this garbage TV brand "until the cows come home". These manufacturers should not be allowed to sell junk without a mandatory full, no exception 10 year warranty. That should fix the problem overnight.
Tax the manufacturer 🤔 you mean have the customer pay yet another tax passed on by the manufacturer? Yeah great idea... And taxing a manufacturer 7 1/2 years after a sale because the TV didn't make 8 years 🤣😂🤣😂. You really didn't think any of this through did you.
Pile em high and make them cheap comes to mind. This is true of many brands, but how Hisense have become one of the worlds largest makers of TV's can only be down to price. and they are experts at making sets that fail just after the warranty expires, The latest models use their own Vidaa o/s and it sucks, unlike Google you can't add or remove apps and it tends to lockup the HDMI switching requiring a hard reset to unlock them, firmware updates have not provided a cure.
When you make a cheap product that fails just after warranty you're bound to become number 1 in selling and the CEOs are rubbing their nipples knowing it.
@@poolhalljunkie9Only until the buyers learn that your product is not made to last , these days trying to buy quality goods at sensible prices is easier said than done.
Speaking of glued screens. I just broke my old 27" IMAC screen (hdd failed) because it was glued on. I watched "how to" videos, took a lot of care, used proper tools, bloody thing still cracked.
Have 3 different 65 Hisense, ranging in age from about 6 years to 2 years, they are all FANTASTIC tvs with zero issues. Have recommended them to countless friends who bought the same models and none have had ANY issues. However, I have had issues the two times I bought expensive tvs..... But yea... Keep talking.
I have had 3 Hisense TVs. The first was a 55 inch 55H6E that died within two weeks of purchase. I returned it to my local Walmart. They exchanged it for the 60H6E, which was on sale for $40 less than the 55 inch. $40 back, and a bigger screen, win-win, and that one is still working over 6 years later. The last one is a 75 inch 75U7G. Over 3 years later, still going strong, amazing picture and sound no soundbar needed, and I would put this up against any of the big 3 at twice the price.
I had Hisense 29" 720p tv, it worked for 10 years before finally giving up. It was the cheapest in store and i surely didn't expect that it will last for so long. I bought it as replacement for Samsung which was very expensive at the time but only lived for 2 years.
Word. Had 2 Samsung TV´s, both of them failed shortly after warranty expired. Most reliable TV´s for me come from Philips and Panasonic, but i sure can be wrong. It would be good to have a video about the most reliable brands and TV´s.
My Samsung TV had the bottom edge lighting. The left side of the screen became dark. Then a section in the middle started to darken, but not as bad as on the left. In the center at the bottom there were two “flares” of light. One day the left side recovered magically and that part of the picture looked normal. Then the left side went out again. Although I had repaired TVs in the past, this one went to the dump. I found a RUclips video that explained the problems that this TV was showing, and found another where a repair was performed but the set didn’t end up being good due to an issue that happened with the screen during the disassembly or re-assembly. The flares at the bottom were the giveaway that some cracks had developed, and that repair would be futile. For those wondering.
That’s not been my experience (in the UK). I’ve always bought Samsung and apart from the seamless integration of sound bars and using the same remote for different models if you misplace one, I’ve never had a single tv fail on me. Still have an old school 50” piano black plasma screen tucked away that was hammered and still worked 100% until I superseded it. (No, I don’t work for Samsung) 😂
@@KurtLang-tt4kv For the last 20+ years ALL my gear has been Samsung. Until my last 2 TV's. One developed white spots (lenses coming unstuck) and one complete screen corruption (known issue on the panels they used) 2 months out of warranty. Also SICK of their pushing Prime, Netflix, Disney all over the remote control and having a microphone in etc.Nah, no more Samsung until they sort their crap out.
@@KurtLang-tt4kv - plasma screens are quite different. And there are different ways of backlighting that Samsung uses, so this wouldn’t be all models. I was very specific regarding the backlighting characteristic of the model that has the problem of not lasting more than four years - edge lighting from the bottom. I’ve seen lots of people post online with similar problems with such TVs, and sometimes even thinking of repairing doesn’t make sense.
tv repairman told me to never run my tv on vivid and extra bright constantly due to back light failure. just watch it on the dark side now and so far so good.
Those settings should be avoided. Additionally you should check your new tv to make sure its not set to "Store Display" or any setting that sounds like that! That's another amped up setting, that prematurely wears out everything! It's only intended to be used to over come the brightness of Store interiors!...
I bought a 65" Hisense TV around 10 years ago from Richer Sounds, id never heard of them but they assured me it was very high end in the Asian territories. It works flawlessly to this day, ive now given it to my daughter who has it in her house and i upgraded to a Samsung S95B Oled. Id happily buy a Hisense again in the future though.
Thanks sir for the video, I'm a auto tech with a good deal of electronic knowledge, and have repaired many tv and radios especially good at old tube products, but I agree new tvs suck
Here in the Philippines the Hisense brand is in some stores, kinda mid range price between other unknown china made tat and the known brands such as Sony or Toshiba or Samsung/LG, dunno if there's many mad folk here buy them or not!!!!
Hisense has the rights to Toshiba in your country, so the Toshibas are really higher-end Hisense models. Hisense makes good higher end products, this is just a low end model.
You are complaining about 65". Try to fix 75". Almost cut off my finger when the metal back panel rotated on it. I was "smart" enough to put my fingers in panel openings for better grip. Regrets, regrets... Anyway, you are doing God's work by trying to prevent these TVs from going to the landfill, and I am thanking you for that.
I talked to a tv repair guy who's been in the business for 47yrs. He said ALL TV's today are built to only last a couple years. He recommends the 3yr extended warranty even though he doesn't sell them. He said Sonys are the worst. If 1 pixel goes bad, it will refuse to work, & there's no way around it. Displays don't last long either. I found him because Geek Squad said my 2yr old Sony Bravia oled was unrepairable! 🤯🤬 I loved Sony for over 20yrs. I dont expect a high end TV to be disposable!!!
Someone should make a website where people can enter their TV model and date that it died so we can have a database for how long specific TV models typically last before breaking.
It seems that all TV review sites only review the features of a model and there is NOTHING about how long that TV will last.
Wouldn’t it be nice to be able to divide the price of the TV by how many years similar models by a manufacturer in the past would last? If a TV (same manufacturer, earlier and similar model) costs $400 and lasts 4 years on average before breaking then we’d know that it’s $100 per year.
This is the kind of data I want when buying a TV. 📺
Sounds like a gem of an idea!
Might've saved me from buying a Sony Bravia oled TV. It died at exactly 2yrs old- UNREPAIRABLE!!!
That works out to... a lot more than $100/yr!
I bought a Panasonic LCD TV in 2010, now, in 2024, the tv still works, it was one of the most expensive models, i got it for 500 euros back in the day, it came from 850 euros, so a nice deal, this tv has been in several households, after me, my mom used it, it came back to me and used as a game console tv, i got a Sony tv, and it went back to my mom as a bedroom tv, and it still works to this day!
That would be great. I had 2 Samsung TVs both the same model except for one was 55 and the other was 65. Both of them had issues after 1 year and a few months. Also, the same exact failure where the screen would be dark to black at one side of the TV. Checking reviews on that model it was actually a pretty common issue with that specific model number. I've since bought a 65 and 75 LG TV. The 65" is going on about 5 years and the 75" inch going on around 4 years.
@@Dijitz23 I had the same illumination problem with half of my TV screen with a 55” Vizio after about 3 years of regular usage.
I understand that you can’t tell in advance if a brand new TV model is going to most likely fail in just a few years, but you can look at the history of the manufacturer with similar model sizes and price levels in the past and use those as some sort of benchmark.
That would be great apart from one major flaw. The individual TV chassis or screen designs only seem to remain in production for a very short time. So by the time you had a few years of failure data to harvest and collate, that actual TV model would be long out of production and replaced with another new or different design. So any model specific lifetime failure data would be irrelevant. The technology moves so fast. It is hard to know which make/model/screen technology to go for, or to recommend to others asking for your advice. I think most important is to get a 5y warranty, Then assume any time beyond that is just a windfall.
Built in obsolescence should be illegal.
It is.
@faumnamara5181 it isn't .
They are building disposable cars now.
Many are scraped before 5 years old .
Disgraceful
We get what we pay for.
We want it cheap.
Im the end its our fault for supporting this type of product by buying it.
@@Taketimeout3that term "you get what you pay for" is a term created by the companies that create products designed to fail to shame the customers. That statement was designed take all responsibility away from the companies. All money is good, big or small. What's not good is a company that designs thier product to fail to sell more tvs. Or how about a car manufacturer that knows that thier car has design flaws that could kill families and does because they were too cheap to fix known issues. Is that a case of you get what you pay for?
@@tobyclayton2597 people that have nwver built anything dictating to those who do. Is just dumb and ineffective.
Its almost always cheaper to make a new thing than fix a thing.
Every boomer ive ever seen on my 44 years alive buys the cheapest possible.
You cant survive in most markets like that thus the market got what the market paid for.
I worked part time repairing TVs back in the 1970s when I was going to college. TVs back then were mostly vacuum tubes and had cathode ray picture tubes. I got pretty fast repairing most TVs that came into the shop. I was a radio repairman in the Marines in the 60s, so I already had experience troubleshooting. In the shop was an old timer who taught me how to repair TVs. He was really fast and taught me his tricks. I'm 78 now and there's no way I could repair modern TVs. Cheers.
The repair is pretty simple. Swap the pcb
HEY, THANKS FOR YOUR SERVICE. THE GOOD OLD DAYS, UNLESS IT WAS AN SONY TV.
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Make sure it's a used board, if by some chance you acquire a new main PCB it may not have firmware installed and only warranty repairers have full access for that. A salvaged or reconditioned board should have working firmware installed.
@darthwiizius also that to take account with... it means in most cases it is totalled.
Unless it is a very expensive variant or a variant with Fluorescent tube backlights. Those are way better in color than leds who tend to be blueish
There needs to be a durability law for all expensive items requiring it to be fixable so many years beyond the warranty period.
The US government could be passing right to repair legislation, but they’re too busy laundering money, flooding our cities with foreign criminals, and tricking us into fighting with each other while they all laugh to the bank and their walled off mansions.
I've been saying this for Apple stuff. A "landfill tax".
And parts available. That’s the biggest thing. I had a 32” that a friend gave me screen was destroyed in an accident. Was an RV TV set all it needed was a replacement screen. For a few days I couldn’t even find one then I saw a replacement that was available but cost almost as much as buying on brand new.
Total scam.
@@BowsettesFury It isn't really a scam, but part of how the supply chain works. The OEM's buy the screens in bulk at a massive discount, and then put a markup on each TV after totalling the bill of materials and labour up. That's why parts for individual TV's seem expensive as the bulk discount isn't there. The screen is the most complex and delicate part to manufacture, especially with newer tech like OLED.
@@supergeekjay Nope, the bulk discount is not only there but also the middleman markup eliminated, if the manufacturer sells the replacement parts. If they can get their whole TV product distributed to many thousands of retail outlets, then it's nothing to have a single distribution point for replacement parts, even if that does involve a middleman because they don't have their own warehouse space in the country they're servicing.
At the same time, it requires overproduction of spare parts, many of which won't be needed and eventually dumped on the gray market if not put in a dump, or only a small % of parts recycled. SO, the issue is cost to do it, and eWaste, but then there is also the eWaste from not being able to repair a faulty TV.
Unfortunately, most consumers don't have the skills nor want to risk the replacement part investment to try to DIY a repair, and 3rd party repair tends to cost more than a set is worth, if more than ~3 years old.
You're right that it isn't a scam, but the industry does need more oversight into penalties for not making more durable products, even if it is just mandating longer warranties, and heavy penalties for making fulfillment of warranties burdensome. A lot of companies will just brush off customers, even defaulting to using poor english on purpose to drag out a simple correspondence.
I have still my old trusty Panasonic TH-65PF10EK industry plasma display sitting right behind my Highsense 65“ tv. So if the latter fails, I just pull it to the side and I am ready to go. If this should happen during the winter month, I may use the plasma display as an infrared heater as well.
I hear plasma TV owners have brain damage.
My 58” Samsung plasma is still going strong and looks great. Helps to warm the room in the winter as well. 😂 They just don’t make anything of quality anymore.
Same here I have a 15 year old Panasonic Plasma and a 10 year old LG plasm and they both work great and no burn in either---yep great heat source in the summer as well!
@@joes9954 We were forced to 'upgrade' our Sammy plasma over the summer, via a child being incredibly stupid with a game controller. Ugh, I was gutted, and most things I enjoy I keep in good condition many, many years past their prime. Still miss the incredible black range of that TV, though the OLED is nice to look at with the better compatibility of 4k and such.
I got one of them got it from St vinnies for 10 bucks weighs a ton but works great 👍
Hi Allen. Its refreshing of you to admit that some things are nearly impossible to repair and also not worth the effort. Maybe I will be more selective in what I tackle next, and not take on anything and everything. I like you hate stuff going to landfill. Thanks for the video. Sometimes failure provides a better lesson than success. Keep up the good work. Vic.
It's true. Not much is worth repairing these days from a time/money standpoint. A lot of repairs can be extremely time consuming, fiddly and technically challenging or practically impossible. Not uncommon to go to a job, spend over half a day fault finding only to conclude that it would have been more worth your time to just rip shit out and start anew. We repair stuff because it gives us a sense of personal satisfaction, having overcome a challenge and solved a problem that most people would not consider tackling, and of course, to re-purpose something that was going to be thrown away. The old stuff you could just crack open the case and everything would be there laid bare and fairly accessible; new stuff is all overlayed, microsoldered by computers, glued in place, security screws, designed to break if tampered with, never to be opened again, except by a pure madman.
It's been this way for many years we had throwaway CRT TV's . I walked into a large warehouse with hundreds of these tv sets stacked on pallets. They were only a few years old.
They were being refurbished and sold to other countries.
Wow, I didn’t know tv repairs were still being done. You just got a new subscriber.
There are not many people repairing TVs, a lot of the problem is getting the spares and the cost of spares, they are not really made to be repaired, most parts costing more than its worth, some people can work at component level, which makes repair cheaper.
@@stevenc5227 Component level repair is the only repairs you can do that actually need skill. Replacing entire boards is easy, but no fun, and very wasteful. I miss the days of repairable stuff.
@@supergeekjay Yes most electrical items nowadays are not repairable, even electric cars, when the battery dies, you throw it away as the battery costs more than the car, and they call it green technology, what a joke😂
I used to repair just TVs. Now i do appliances and a few tvs.
It's usually board swaps these days. Untrained techs swap out the boards, if that doesn't work they'll say "Beyond Economic Repair" and sell you a new TV....
We've got one of these in our workshop for the guys to display drawings and CAD models on. Had it three years, no issues and it gets used all day. I think it cost us £300. If (when) it fails, we'd probably just buy another. If we'd paid £1500 or more for an equivalent Sony or Samsung, it would be a different matter. Part of the throwaway culture I'm afraid.
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Also those expensive Sony, Samsung, etc. products aren't even 50% better never mind 5 times. If those companies were confident their products would outlast Hisense they'd come with a much longer warranty.
I found half dozen of these over a year or so of trash picking. They all appeared to be new, or nearly new, only one would briefly work, then shut down. I'll probably end up stripping them for parts. Hisense actually had a decent reputation before they started making lowball products for Walmart, et. al. But lowball toys are what people are demanding, so here we are.
Well there you have it,
One man's trash
Is another man's RUclips Comment ..
It's a chmse company. It's expected it will break down.
I only get samsung tv, phones and tablet's. All mine works great.
Walmart shouldn't have needed to have vendors cheap down their normal product lines ever since they introduced their own house brand ONN which can serve that price point purpose.
@@joewoodchuck3824 These were also prominently branded as Roku TVs. I've been wondering what part that bloatware deal may have played into this.
@guruoo According to what I've read Roku simplifies the navigation in a TV and provides access to more content. There are even Roku adapters to upgrade ordinary smart TVs. On that basis Roku would seem to be more than mere bloatware.
Hi Allen........love the channel. I have to disagree with almost everyone.......even those who have so far disagreed with you too! I am not a particular lover of these sets, and I agree that they have been made "to a budget", but they are not as difficult to fit LED's to as everyone is suggesting. There is an easier way! Firstly, as has been said, they are pretty easy to disassemble. The first trick is not to "cut" the screen out of the frame, but to remove the screen attached to the frame. This is easy........tease the frame off the metalwork on the top and both sides first with a small screwdriver or better still a plastic lever, and "unclip" the bottom of the frame from the bottom of the metalwork, under the tabs. You will find that leaving the screen on the frame makes it easier to move, store and refit. Secondly, on to the subject of the black tape which holds the white reflector sheet down. I think that the mistake you (all) are making is that you are trying to remove the sheet from the tape. The trick here is to leave the tape on the white sheet. To do this firstly pull the sheet and tape off along one long edge (some do not have tape here). Next start at one corner of the side that you started working on. The rest of the black tape is fitted vertically, and over the strips. Tease up the end of the first strip that you see in the corner with a flat blade. Press the white sheet back down on it again, but not the last 5mm or so. Then use this "unstuck" section to lift the reflector sheet away with the tape still attached. Stick the exposed end to the sheet. This method keeps the tape flat to the sheet when removed, and avoids "ripples". Repeat this process along the screen until about 4" of each strip of tape has been removed from the metalwork. Now "rip" off the rest using a side to side motion with both hands until all is removed just past the last strip of LED's and stop there. Leaving the last horizontal strip of tape in place, and not removing the sheet fully from the metalwork makes re-fitting the white sheet really easy as it is already aligned. When clipping the plastic frame and screen back in place you might find the two top corners tricky to get in to place, and the temptation is to press too hard. Don't do it!.......fit them fairly loosely and complete the job. When the TV is back upright, and on its feet, tease the corners back into place with gentle pressure while inserting a small flat screwdriver between the plastic and the metalwork, starting from around 2" away from each corner from both sides. It always works. This may all sound complicated, but it is really easy to do and is by far the best way to disassemble these sets, and many other Hisense models. There are a couple of Hisense models where the screen is fully bonded in place, and we don't do these due to the risk of the screen breaking. These are not the same as the model that you have based the video on. I repair all of my TV's in my customer's homes, and I did two of these on Saturday, plus two 65" Sonys (!!). The Hisense LED replacement takes me an hour or less to complete.
Regards
Ken
Damn good write up.
The fact that this comment is that long shows you really shouldn't buy those or dare to repair them
I admire your patience!
@@vadnegruOnly to a moron. .. To the rest it simply shows that he's cracked the code on proper easy safe reliable Hisense non fully bonded screen removal and describes it in detail for free to anyone not intimidated by reading something longer than a paragraph. I find it sad that ppl forget or simply do not realize that in the days before RUclips that was how everyone outside of formal technical institute Classrooms learned and applied technical repair knowledge, out of books, tsb's, trade journals etc etc. and skip to present day and u have people avoiding entire product lines just to avoid a bit of reading ..
@@brahtrumpwonbigly7309 Thanks
I started in the TV repair trade as an apprentice in the early 1960s. I did see all this move to make for sale and not for repair in the late 1970s so decided to turn to Industrial Electronics that more or less lasted as a living until I retired, only due to the fact that industry did seem to keep products for far longer than the household entertainment industry. Watching your video made cold shivers run down my spine glad I am retired, I do wish you well in tour TV repair business.
Planned obsolescence.
Its not that, the video is wrong - its a cheap tv, its not made to be repairable and whilst they arent the best quality the comment that they will only last three years is simply rubbish.
That said, I agree that tv's should be repairable
@@francistaylor1822 THESE DO INDEED LAST 2 YEARS SEE EM BY THE CURB ALL THE TIME
@@TCBOT lasting is a relative term. I've seen Hisense tvs lock up and reboot out of the box randomly. Especially if you live in hotter climates. You might be able to get the TV to display video but the "smart components" in them seem to go first. Then different parts fail.
@@francistaylor1822 have to admit that the last one of these we bought lasted for 6 or 7 years but you're right, they are cheap and the price reflects the product.
There is no thing as planned obsolescence, except in the minds of the witless. It's just cheap. Figure it out.
Only needs to work until warranty expires. Then straight to landfill. It's called green technology!
Capitalism.........don't you hate it.
@@buggerlugz6753 As run by the PRC. Best not to subsidise them via purchases.
@@buggerlugz6753 This is a wild form of capitalism that nobody wants.
@@buggerlugz6753 no its not.
AND you gotta pay $25 USD for the privilege of "recycling" it.
God do I miss CRT's & NTSC !
Your contempt and anger has earned you another subscriber.
When I was a nipper, I'd buy busted televisions from charity shops, and replace the valves. These were pieces of furniture, with beautifully crafted wooden cabinets.
My father took them back to the shops in despair, as I'd used up the cellar with projects.
Ironically, I haven't had a television since 1999.
what's ironic about it?
Ironically that someone has the time to troll a comment cos they don't have a grasp on the English language
@@PronounsWTF Well actually I do, but neither was that "ironic". What was "ironic" about either that, or thy previous comment?
@@organisten obviously not really got a good grip on life there organgrinder eh
@@PronounsWTF we weren't discussing it. So what's ironic, or was that just thy way of distracting us from not being able to answer this?
I hope you don't remove my comment because this advice can help anyone watching, but I disagree with a lot of your opinions with this model. I work in a very busy TV repair centre and I fit backlights to these exact models on a fairly regular basis (3x 65" in the past week).
First, lets start with the difficulty level of the job. VERY easy TV to strip down. No bezel to mess with, cut the screen out, lift it with a frame with suction cups, lift the sheets off. Cut a line in the reflector sheet under each strip, replace (ALL) strips, tape your cuts back down, refit sheets, remove old adhesive from screen and chassis, apply new tape, position screen, then rebuild. Can be done single handed within 2 hours. The only time consuming part is removing adhesive.
Secondly, while I agree that the quality of the backlights are poor, these sets are otherwise extremely reliable. We have NEVER had a single one of these in for screen failure, not one. Meanwhile top brands such as Samsung, we see a dozen or more every week, also some Sonys and to a lesser extent LG. Don't even mention the complete trash Vestel brands such as Hitachi, Toshiba, JVC, Bush etc who's screens seldom last 2 or 3 years. Regarding electronic faults, I think in the last few years I've only seen less than 5 or 6 Hisense TVs with any kind of circuit related issues.
Thirdly, I think the capacitor might have fell off when you dragged the TV out from under the screen. You should either remove all the boards during this procedure, or use the magnetic chassis stands that are designed to stop components being dragged off.
I hope this helps some of your viewers.
What about modern Panasonic TVs? Are they good or not?
When components rain from the board, don't mind me if I find the quality suspect.
For a fair number of units I've looked at, the best disassembly method for them would involve a rubbish compactor.
So, if you are seeing a lot of this model what does that tell you? it's crap.
@@shaunmorrissey7313I see these models for backlight replacements only. I already agreed the backlights are crap. But a backlight fault is a fairly easy repair. You need to read my comment again. These models do not have any other problems. Compare that to a Samsung/Toshiba/hitachi/jvc/bush whose screen fails after 2 years and is unrepairable.
@@Morpheus-pt3wqnot nearly as good as they used to be. Most Panasonic TVs are made by a company called Vestel who are based in turkey
Reminds me of trying to do DIY servicing & replacement of filters, bulbs, etc. on my Citroën C4. It was deliberately designed to make such tasks horrendously difficult.
The last Kia (2012) I looked at was nicely designed for maintenance, maybe look at one of those next :)
"Red" is negative. That's quality right there.
I wonder if it's an absolutely bonkers nonsensical power supply that supplies negative voltage instead, so like white is positive because it's near ground level, but red is the "hot" side with like -70v or something. Still makes no sense whatsoever, but damn a random color code is just... really, why?
Most backlight cable has red for negative,yep
Perhaps colour blind as well as a colour tv maker
Open another one and it'll be the 'red' lol.
Like Sony having center negative on their barrel end AC adapters but hey gotta love the "Its A Sony" sticker.
I have owned a 65 inch Hisense for 6 years. Never had any problems. Marketed as a Sharp in the USA they bought the company so they could use the name, which is respected there.
I have had 3 Hisense TVs. The first was a 55 inch 55H6E that died within two weeks of purchase. I returned it to my local Walmart. They exchanged it for the 60H6E, which was on sale for $40 less than the 55 inch. $40 back, and a bigger screen, win-win, and that one is still working over 6 years later.
The last one is a 75 inch 75U7G. Over 3 years later, still going strong, amazing picture and sound no soundbar needed, and I would put this up against any of the big 3 at twice the price.😊
Until Sharp sued them to regain control of their brand name. That said I have 40" Hisense that I've had for 4 years. No problems with it. I like it better than my LG, the most annoying TV I've ever owned.
This channel is not based on market data, but only what they hear and how many models come in for repairs. They fail to take into account the fact that the most popular brands are going to have the most failures even if the percentage of them that fail is lower than a less popular brand. Another factor that would skew their results is their customer base.
0:21 “I don’t normally take in 65 inches”. Oh, er, Mrs!
Built to budget... It seems that components easily fall off cheaply made PCBs these days. A great effort you made and I felt your frustration. Unfortunately we live in a throw away world now. Great work and keep the video coming. Thanks.
I bought a Hisense P50 in Australia with a 3 year warranty. Mounted it onto an office wall to show clients photos. At night I connected a 4k security NVR but all it ever got used is to show some cops crimes across the road. Having this TV on the network it kept randomly turning on until I upgraded its firmware. After another firmware upgrade its sensitivity on some UHF channels dropped. Since TV is so crap here I only clocked up perhaps 30 hours of on time over its 3 years. Then 6 months later not being used, it was completely dead. Its micro does not signal the psu to turn on, stby is ok. We have a federal law saying TV's supposed to last longer like 5 years but this is rubbery and once you buy it in a business name it is junk right after 3 years. TV makers replace their LCD manufacturing plants every few years and place them into the cheapest countries they can find. Thailand, Indonesia, Vietnam and new they are making ground in India. Apart from computer printers being the worst, I see a similar trend in washing machines where there is no limit on parts like any other consumer product. Meanwhile I repaired some commercial CRT screens. There you can access capacitors, measure their esr and get results.
You are absolutely right about the manufacturers picking the cheapest location for manufacturing till they move on to a new one.
India has seen a lot of new facilities being set up because of government incentives. Dixon Technologies is one of the biggest players. The quality is just crap.
I bought an entry level Sharp made TV which was actually made by Sharp during the COVID lockdowns and that TV was better than the new TVs that I see in stores now. Sadly, it died after a power surge and the business that brought the brand to India then has moved on to other brands.
We, wifey and I, own two LG TVs! And for the most part have had zero issues with either of them. I honestly don't remember how old either is. But it is certainly older than five years for sure... Great videos, Allen. Keep them coming. I retired as an Engineering Technician and have repaired AND reverse engineered so many circuits in my life time. So your videos are interesting to me... Thumbs Up!
My TV is over 19 years' old - will be 20 years' in January. I hardly ever watch TV these days - just the news and that's pretty much it unless someone tells me there's something special and makes a point of saying I should see it. About three or four years ago, it stopped working, and I thought before I go and buy a new expensive TV for something I hardly ever use, let's take it to our local repairman. He fixed it! There was just something wrong with its on off switch. It's a Phillips Flat TV from 2006. HD prepared, but it isn't HD I am seeing (or needing). Now that Norway no longer has analogue TV I am using a TV decoder from the fibre Internet, which couples into the TV using an old fashioned computer connector. Works perfectly.
I totally agree with you mate. I stiil watch my Sony 68cm cathode ray tube tv with a set top box. Resolution not great but does the job. All this technology tvs cars etc too over the top. I dont need it. Modern equipment = planned obsolesence = rip off.
The content
of free to air channels is mostly crap and so many adds designed for empty heads the normal here in Australia. Sounds like you have the same issues in Norway. Your Viking ancestors would be turning in their graves. Take care. Regards Aussie Bruce.
Nobody watches TV any more, they're just a PC/Fire TV, Chromecast display...
@andrew_koala2974 it maybe in thy country; not in mine. Besides, there is *no* such standard in the language. Have a nice day. 😉
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Yep, sticking with my old Panasonics. 3x 42" plasmas and a 32" LCD (with fluorescent backlights) in my son's room. Touch wood, I've never had an issue with any of them and they're still quite well-specced by today's standards, with built in Freeview, Freesat, FTA satellite and network media browser. No smart functionality of course but that's what Chromecasts and Fire sticks are for. Plus they make great room heaters in winter! Had a Vestel Bush (from Argos) for a couple of years, cheap nasty crap, it wasn't even 3 years old when it packed up.
I had once a case of newly assembled PCBs coming from our subcontractor and they had a problem of certain two capacitors falling off almost by themselves, even though the soldering was made with stencils and assembly with a machine. They came right off by just slightly knocking on them with a pencil. Turned out that the subcontractor had ordered the boards from some el-cheapo factory that had plated them poorly and it affected only certain areas of the boards but not everywhere. The pads were fine to resolder, just the coating on the copper seemed to have not plated well. This reminded me of this incident and I thought maybe Hisense had used a similar low cost factory for their boards and got similar results.
there's been a 65 tcl open on my bench for a month, replaced the back lights but while tv was apart waiting for parts a guess somebody leaned on the outer screen and it spidered the attached under screen which i had no idea had happened until after ordering and installing the new parts so now i get to wait for someone to toss another 65 so i can snag the outer screens. why am i going through all this for a tcl, i bought this tv for my dying mother and it gave her the only little bit of joy she had the last 6 months of her life so it's not going in a dumpster however stupid that is......
Ok ??
Not stupid at all. I still have my mom's old desktop computer with a CRT monitor. Has all her stuff on it and I just can't get rid of it for some reason.
It’s not stupid. I understand. At some point you’ll be rid of it I’m sure.
Aww…that’s sweet. 😌
A great video. We have a Hisense TV in on bedroom and have neverhad a problem in over 4 years+. But, what I would like to say is how perfect your voice would be for a local or national radio /podcast voice.
Disposable items these days - like most things !
I returned to UK after living in Australia for 20 years in 2007. Since then I’ve gone through 5 x “smart TV’s “ !! Five in 17 years !
All were big brand names, Sony, Panasonic, LG all developed faults like pixel burn, cloud patches etc…. One of them was still inside the 12 month warranty from new, (from Curry’s ) so they took it back to send to repairer - after 2 weeks they replaced it with a new one - presumably it was cheaper than repairing the broken one !
When we returned from Australia we brought with us a 1 year old (2006) first generation Panasonic Vierra Plasma HDMI tv 50”.
It is in our conservatory and still works perfectly well, not so much as a pixel “dot” and has never missed a beat.
Almost 20 years old plasma and has seen off 5 newer “Smart” TV’s …..
There’s something to that old saying, “they don’t make ‘em like they used to”…….
They don't charge as much as they used to either.
"Do feel sorry for me, and send cash" Lol, love the humour!
I bought a new Hisense 40" 4L smart TV on Nov 25th 2016, ready for the family Christmas, and it is still going great. It was a bargain then and has worked very well, even the smart TV part is still fully functional
@@massacremonk 8 years for a grarbage brand?Yeah.I guess they dont use it much
That's quite interesting, its good to hear of a positive experience. Our £279 50" has broken after 25 months of intensive daily use, is yours used daily or just occasionally? There are a few retailers offering 5 or 6 year warranties on these TVs and part of me is tempted to buy another one.
My hisense has been the main TV for the house. It was bought as a good but not top of the range model. I travel a lot but family at home use it every day. Which magazine has some of the hisense models as best buy, so the brand is recognised as OK.
I am an engineer, ex broadcast engineer, I can gauge reasonable quality, and I have previously had responsibility to assess studio video quality for independent TV in the UK. I have been satisfied with my TV but I would use which magazine or another review source which has the chance to go beyond a single person's experience to help choose
@@martuxtube Thanks for replying, I'll do some more research before deciding but will make sure I get one with a longer warranty.
I've had 3 Hisense TVs. The first was a 55 inch 55H6E that died within two weeks of purchase. I returned it to my local Walmart. They exchanged it for the 60H6E, which was on sale for $40 less than the 55 inch. $40 back, and a bigger screen, win-win, and that one is still working over 6 years later.
The last one is a 75 inch 75U7G. Over 3 years later, still going strong, amazing picture and sound no soundbar needed, and I would put this up against any of the big 3 at twice the price. The 60 inch ran 12 to 16 hours a day until replaced by the 75 inch, which now runs 12 to 16 hours a day. The 60 inch now gets limited use.
New sub. Great video. I have been fixing electronics for over 25 years, and seen every brand possible. Hisense is a good TV for the little money. But.... you MUST expect it wont last long. Some do, and most dont. It is definitely a budget TV.
Manufacturers should make the LED strips slide and lock in place for easy R&R, especially with their high failure rates. Sad how most of this stuff is disposable garbage nowadays. The same applies to everything. Home appliances, yard equipment, automobiles, etc.....😣
They should be MASS SUED for this bullshit!!
That would be against selling repeatedly the same item.
Modern cars last much longer than they did a few decades ago.
I have had a Hisense 55" running strong since 2015. Great channel though and I have subbed to see more TV repairs.
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What a marvellous channel! Just watched this video. I still run a Panasonic Quintrix 28" flat screen crt 100hz scanning. Bought it early 2000s. Works perfectly. Subbed❤👍
Sadly my 13" commodore monitor died after only 32 years. I used a vhs machine for the tuner.
I want a flat screen for the storm shelter to watch the weather, and no one makes a small flat screen anymore.
I bought a Hisense 65 inch TV last year. Great picture - and audio. Best TV I've ever had!
Based on the planned obsolescence you've got another 11 months of enjoyment
I have a 2021 Hisence U7G.
It's closing in on 4 years old , so far it's good.
I have had 3 Hisense TVs. The first was a 55 inch 55H6E that died within two weeks of purchase. I returned it to my local Walmart. They exchanged it for the 60H6E, which was on sale for $40 less than the 55 inch. $40 back, and a bigger screen, win-win, and that one is still working over 6 years later.
The last one is a 75 inch 75U7G. Over 3 years old, and still going strong, amazing picture and sound no soundbar needed, and I would put this up against any of the big 3 at twice the price. 👍🏾
I worked in TV repair in the mid 70's. I'm so glad I got out of that game and into a different career in Information Technology.
I have a 55in HiSense TV and about 12 months ago a capacitor exploded and I could see the smoke coming out of the vents. However the TV still worked, but I was too scared to turn it off so I left it switched on for months. One day our 240V mains supply dropped out and I crossed my fingers the TV would switch on, when the mains came back on, the TV still worked. It still works today and it is about 3 years old.
Have a 55 inch for about 5 years never had any issues. Got the 65 inch 2 years downstairs. No problem.
My main TV is a Sony 55" i baught in Japan in May 2007. 1080P 60Hz neon tube backlight . Was a top of the range Bravia. I use it here with a 220V to 100V transformer since mid 2009. All menus in Japanese. No english. Maybe 4 to 6 hours per day on. Still works perfectly in 2024...😊 i will keep it as long as it works. My cat loves walking on it. Doing u turns also.
Similar thing for me here in Singapore, where I hunted down and bought a used one of the few true 1080p 32" TVs we officially got (because I was sick and tired of brand new "HD-Ready" 1366×768 trash), which happened to be a Sony Bravia from 2014, and it still works perfectly aside from the online features being almost entirely dead, but to compensate it has great CEC support so I can plug in an internet TV box. The model I found, KDL-32W700B, happened to also be sold in Japan with the same model number (but with an ISDB tuner instead of DVB and having a Japanese-only UI) as I found out while doing some research before I bought it.
I'm aware that there's the TCL model 32S5400, but that didn't exist at the time and it also has less external device inputs.
Edit: Prior to buying the TV, I was even considering importing a 32" 1080p TV from the UK, but knew the import costs would've been expensive and there may have been software locks.
Edit 2: Another family member has a 2020 model Prism+ Q55, which itself is basically a Skyworth 55Q20 customised for the Singaporean market, and that was getting slow, frequently pausing Netflix playback, and frequently disconnecting its network connections, but a RUclips video I saw showed that it's likely the internal storage failing. I did a factory reset which extended the life a bit, but it's starting to fail again.
They insisted on buying that TV even though I tried to get them to get a used Sony TV instead, all because they just saw the price and the sponsored reviews. They then wanted a soundbar which I bought only to find that the TV has poor CEC support and no eARC support, and then they didn't even bother using the soundbar.
Same thing with my 2010 Sony bravia.
I still use a 37" Sony LCD TV from 2007. Apart from the power button no longer working (need to turn it on or off at the wall) and a couple of dead pixels, it works fine. It also doesn't have any of the "smart TV" spyware crap modern TVs have in them!!
@@TheKnobCalledTone. amazing. No good-old CRT could have done that , the tube would be fried or quite dimmed by so many hours ON .... superiority of LCDs ! wondering now about the "marvelous" OLED technology, will it last well or end up being like those "Pioneer Plasmas" back in days. Burning out after some few years of use ? who still has a functioning plasma display ?
Guitar picks work great for a prying tool, as opposed to a business card. Warming the adhesive will generally loosen it enough to separate it.
Contrast this with my 16 year old, 32inch LCD TV, which is still working perfectly :) .
Same here: 12 year old 32inch LCD TV which I use as a monitor for the very PC I am typing this on. Dynex is the no-name brand, but this has been one solid reliable beast. The only thing starting to go is the 'on' button from so much use. ;-) A simple fix even for a novice like me when it goes for good.
@@exidy-yt no remote?
@@ernieb3949 Since it's on my desk I find it simpler to reach over and hit the switch then grub for the remote.
what brand?@@exidy-yt
@@ben-tol As I said in the post, Dynex.
Hisense is the largest TV manufacturer in China by market share since 2004. Hisense is also an OEM, so some of its products are sold to other companies and carry brand names not related to Hisense.
I've had two of these (43 and 55 inch) for about 4 years. They may die suddenly someday but, so far they've been great. I keep them off when not being used and they're kept clean and in an climate controlled home. I hope they last but if not, no problem replacing for this price.
It's people who think like you that are the problem with companies getting away with this kind of logic.
It's people who think like you that are the reason for companies getting away with this kind of crap.
@@B9NE We've bought brand name electronics in the past that only lasted a few years. With electronics these days, often by the time they break there's new tech anyway. I won't waste money on name brands unless I know for sure it'll last and won't be obsolete soon.
You only get what you pay for.....buy cheap buy twice.....probably three to four times. We're meant to be saving the planet, what a joke .
No problem replacing for that price but its more e-waste polluting the environment. Everything is throw away. I'm old enough to remember my parents and grandparents tv's, refrigerators, clothes washers that lasted 30 years and were still working. I don't think anything lasts that long anymore.
Fixed my 65 Hisense, took me half a day being very careful just using a large cardboard to slide the screen off and replacing all the leds. In the end works
I have had my Hisense tv since 2014 it has been flawless, lookss like I have been lucky.
Maybe they built them better back then.
Came here to say the same thing. I don't remember the exact year, but it's definitely been 10+ years. I guess they don't build them like they used to.
I think the old ones are better I've got one that's over 20 years old
No a 60 inch tho 😮
@@Optimiser113 Nah, I have a newer one, works awesome.
They're one of the biggest and most popular brands. Even if their failure rate is lower than other brands we'd expect to see higher numbers of failed Hisense models.
I remember buying the LG 50" a few years ago which failed one week out of warranty, the store i bought it from (Richer sounds) in Glasgow didn't want to know, after research it turned out the transformer which powered the tv into life was too weak (A known fault apparently) the lg had 3 boards on the back so i took off the board with the power transformer and went to a young chinese lad doing home repairs in Govan, (I had already purchased un upgraded transformer chip) he soldered it back in for £15 and the tv has been faultless for 5 yrs now,, keep up the good work.
The lack of annoying, neutered music was refreshing indeed.
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Next door neighbor peacefully, blissfully, unaware of their possible fate.
Got seven years out of my last Hisense 50" 4K slim virtually frameless TV. The picture purity and definition was admirable for the price (£270 in ASDA) Sound volume was pretty decent considering the shallow casing. Remote control a bit limited and the smart interface looked like something from a TEMU smartwatch, but as a display panel I thought it was a decent balance between cost and quality. I guess you just either get lucky or unlucky with these. It lasted longer than the sony bravia it replaced (which cost 3.5 times the price).
I'm seeing a trend of major brands subbing out their budget models to turkey and the far east... brands that used to mean something in the electronics world like Toshiba and sharp
Same here. The Hisense has outlasted both a Sony and Samsung. Cost much less than either too.
I have never bought a TV. When I was younger, I had a 25" CRT TV that my parents had bought for me. Eventually, I used it less and less as I mostly watched stuff on my computer monitor. Eventually, I realized that I could plug my graphics card into a modern TV and enjoy watching stuff on a larger screen, however I didn't want to spend the money on such a screen.
Luckily, in this area we have "bulk trash pickup" twice a year where the city will haul away for free, almost anything you put on the curb. People use this time to get rid of all the stuff they no longer want, including TVs.
I have 3-4 40" TVs that work fine, with three of them being Samsung. A 46" Sony Bravia, a 43" Insignia, a 42" Vizio, a 40" Toshiba (one stuck green pixel), and a bunch of smaller ones in the 20-30" range. A 50" Samsung 4K smart TV that glitches after about 3 hours. Also, a 60" Vizio with half the backlights burned out, which people have said is a common problem with that model. I kept it, but haven't wanted to spend the $80+ to get a new set.
I keep bringing TVs home, hoping to get larger ones that work. A few weeks ago, I brought home a 55" Hisense TV. It wouldn't turn on. The standby light just blinks. I tried pressing the reset button, holding the power button and all the other useless tricks that never seem to work. I'm not an electronics tech, so I wouldn't even know how to try diagnosing it. At the moment it's just leaning up against the wall because I haven't had the opportunity to get rid of it. My friend warned me that it was a garbage brand, but I figured it was free, so I didn't have anything to lose.
Like all new tech, it's not designed to be repaired. You're supposed to use it for 2-3 years, (or until it becomes defective), and then replace it, and throw the old one away. Planned obsolescence by manufacturers who know that if they were to make them to last, they'd be out of business in 5 years, as there's really no new ways of improving upon them, i.e. bring out better, more advanced models in future.
Thanks for the honest work on this TV. I detest the surface mount stuff greatly and from what I saw back in the late 1970's the quick way these are bulk soldered at the factory, I can guess it is even more pron to have solder issues.
Now I can guess you already know this; hang on to this TV till you get another just like it same model type, then open it up and taker goo close pictures of all of the boards and all of the connections. Then compare them to the one you almost had working. You should fine your missing part, or connection issue. I would also guess if it just doe not come one it is a problem in the power supply section, maybe even a dead capacitor.
I started repairing computer flat panels of my own a few years back and found the main problem is the capacitors getting weak. Replace all of the can capacitors, and it is fine again. I also fixed older TV's 2007- 2009 era with capacitor issues. One I had to replace all of the caps on the power board except the giant one. (LG 31.5 inch premium model LCD) The other just two that leaked on the power board in the power switch area (Dell 50 inch Plasma TV).
Their washing machines suck too. Their repair techs are third party. They won't replace. They fixed it after 6 weeks.
So do their fridges.
Hi thanks for sharing your video, I always remember my old gaffer saying buy it cheap buy it twice . When handling screens be careful of the corners of the screen ,even the tiny-us touch can crack the screen and this was in a 55 inch Panasonic tv.
If anyone reads this, TURN YOUR BACKLIGHTS DOWN, on all your LED screens. Laptops, TV's, monitors, tablets and even phones!! You'll extend their life if you do so. Manufacturers turn brightness up so they fail early, they'll then say, "We can sell you a new one, your warranty is up!"
Glad I saw this. I almost bought one a few days ago. I was unfamiliar with the name, so I decided to wait.
Yeah take your time to make your purchases. Easy to spend money, hard to earn money.
@Daviddeath84I've had good luck with hisense tvs. The next tv i buy will be a hisense oled, great looking picture and pretty good reviews from what ive seen.
Sad.. you let this guy away you over this... It's an awesome tv.
I remember a little shop on our estate that had a TV repair man back in the good old days. No wonder you don't see them anymore ❤
You're a braver man that I to attack this TV. Surprized to see on the back label "Assembled in Europe" . This is one TV amongst several other brands I won't touch.
Yep!
I had that exact same problem with my 55" Hisense tv. It had a beautiful display and I love the features, but this happened after about 4 months. I took it apart, and the backlight LED's were glued to the case. I turned it in to be "recycled" because I couldn't find replacement backlights.
Maybe the detached capacitor was a free spare, like you get an extra button on a shirt?
I really feel for you mate! Been there myself. Don't let it get you down. Cheers!
I knew it would be a Hisense before the video started.
Hey bud. I feel your pain. I am also a TV/Computer tech, and have run into these issues as well.
However, I came to a different conclusion than you did.
We have repaired many Hisense and other budget brand TVs. We have also repaired a ton of brand name TVs with similar problems.
I needed a new TV a few years ago What did I purchase? I purchased a no-name (Aevis?) 55" 4K TV, on Black Friday, for under $400 Canadian
Why? Because I see as many brand-name TVs in my shop as I see the budget brands. The difference is, the brand name TVs cost at least twice as much, and often quite a lot more. And although they may have better signal processing, they are still made cheap. The backlights are still trash.
I figured, if I am going to have to replace my TV in under 5 years, then I want a cheap TV that won't be such a large loss.
Most of the time backlight faults can be repaired, and we insist on replacing all the strips, not just one. This is because we find that often the backlights are over-driven, and although the other strips may work, they have likely been damaged. We found that when replacing just the bad LED, or just the one strip, the TVs would come back a few months later with more bad LEDs. So, we replace all the strips, and we adjust the backlights a little dimmer if we can.
The odd thing is, my cheap sub $400 Canadian TV is still working. And it has a half decent 4K image as well. I don't see the point of purchasing an expensive TV, especially since the "brand name" TV manufacturers can't even give you more than a 1 year warranty. How are they any better than the budget brands? Why should I pay $2K for a TV that has the same warranty as a sub $400 Chinese TV? And lasts about the same amount of time as well?
So now, I am barely even using my TV anymore. I have a beautiful monitor for my PC, and I watch almost all media on it.
If my TV ever breaks down again, I will just replace it with some cheap 32" TV worth a hundred bucks and keep using my PC for media consumption. I am disillusioned with TV manufacturers. They don't want to build a decent product, they don't want to give you a half decent warranty, they don't want to repair their own products, they don't want shops like yours and mine to be able to get parts, they want you to throw your TV in the trash and go buy another one.
OK, so I did that, and it wasn't a brand name TV. They can suffer.
Oh, and my monitor has a 3-year warranty.
You could tell your viewers they should turn their backlight down as much as possible for comfortable viewing. This will extend the life of their cheap TV. ;)
100% agree with you. This applies to all LED screens
I do wonder if a big part of the problem is people running them too bright, but it's a bad design if running them at 100% kills the LEDs.
Not all TVs have a backlight dimming option. You would be surprised
@@allenfleckney5969 Factories today concentrate more on making a product that does not last too long than the opposite.
(Planned obsolescence)
@@allenfleckney5969 Is there a particular brand or brands that have this (lack of) feature?
I've had 3 Hisense TVs. The first was a 55 inch 55H6E that died within two weeks of purchase. I returned it to my local Walmart. They exchanged it for the 60H6E, which was on sale for $40 less than the 55 inch. $40 back, and a bigger screen, win-win, and that one is still working over 6 years later.
The last one is a 75 inch 75U7G. Over 3 years later, still going strong, amazing picture and sound no soundbar needed, and I would put this up against any of the big 3 at twice the price. The 60 inch ran 12 to 16 hours a day until replaced by the 75 inch, which now runs 12 to 16 hours a day. The 60 inch now gets limited use. I am happy with the brand if I should get another set... It will definitely be a Hisense. 😊
I think somebody ought to tell 'em they'd save a load of money on glue if they didn't glue everything up!!!!
I had a sharp aquios 42" flatscreen I bought off a friend and it lasted me 15 years, almost always on and I myself ended up selling it still working. Pay the price for a good brand and it will last.
My Aquios is also around 15 years old and will probably last another 15. I want to upgrade to Oled but must wait until this one gives up. As you said, pay the price for a good one.
Even good brands can have shitty products.
I have that exact tv and i bought it in 2018 and its survived 4 moves since then. Im pretty happy with that i expect to replace it sometime soon but its still working great.
I don't like too much regulations, however only TVs that can be easily opened and repaired to enable 10+ years of use should be allowed to be imported...
I recently bought a 1985 GE 19" CRT that still has the original "backlight" and caps that surprisingly worked for 5 bucks at a thrift store. I think the simulated wood grain finish and rabbit ears for the RF screws makes it top shelf but it being cable ready makes it an easy sell than with a Hisense.
The Audacity of them to sell a TV that's unrepairable
if they sell you an extended warranty then they are getting money for nothing
They aren't alone, many cheap products are the same. We haven't had an electronics repair business in our town for 20 years and it's because of this fact. I used to be an electrician and as an apprentice and afterwards as a tradesman I repaired uncountable electric kettles and toasters. These haven't repairable for decades, use then throw away.
I bought a Samsung LE37C650 37-inch in April 2010; still going strong, picture still excellent and never had an issue.
Sanctions should be imposed on companies that manufacture this garbage, not only to punish them for contributing so much waste to landfills, but to price these televisions such that it would dissuade consumers from buying them when a real television is only a little bit more expensive.
All of China’s products.
Most everything made now is garbage, paying more doesn't save you from that. From stuff designed to be unrepairable to ultra thin ones that overheat and die prematurely.
I stopped repairing flat screens on the side a few years ago when the bottom fell out of the cost. Used to buy a broken one for $20 (no cracked screens) Then brought it home, tore into it. Usually blown capacitors (cheap china garbage "CapXon" junk mostly) Spent about $20 or so in parts. Flipped it back for about $80-$100. Made some fun money that way.
But the quality went down with the cost big time. My aunt just had her 42" Viz fail just out of warranty- I've got an older 50" 4k Samsung that's still going strong and it's several years old- But I can see a couple parameter bright spots where trouble's brewing.
Our previous television was one of those older Samsungs and it died just outside the warranty too.
Hello. If people set LED.screen the back brightness to approx. 70% then they normally last much longer. Don't set them to 90% or 100%
unfortunately some TV's need the full brightness, another ploy to increase the wear out time
@@kipper2k No. Durability has little to do with how expensive the TV screen is. A more expensive screen can break just as quickly as a cheaper screen, except that a more expensive screen has a better image and more adjustment options and functions.
"I don't normally take in 65 inches."
Nor do I! 🤣
Kindly extract your mind from the Gutter Young Man, this is a Family friendly repair channel & Not a Hardcore Pornography site !
@@DavidDiaz-zp4hu LOL - welcome to the Internet, snowflake!
My last 5 TV's have been "Hisense" Roku models and they have NEVER given me a problem or quit working! Modern TVs aren't worth repairing when you can replace them for the repair cost.
5... over what period of time? I have only had 2 in a period of 15 years. A Panasonic plasma lasted about 11 years and currently a Sony LED.
I own two Hisense TV's: a 58" and 65", and both are several years old. Never had an issue with either of them, similar to yourself, so I have to agree with you. Hisense TV's are reliable and a bargain price for what you get for your money.
Thanks for the disassembly. I have a Samsung UN58TU7000FXZC built October 2020. It lasted 2 years before the TV just shut down while watching a show. Samsung warranty is one year, Costco (where I bought it) is two years, but it died just after the 2 years, so they even blocked my phone number and didn't want to hear about it. I watched a YT video showing how to troubleshoot and fix this tyle of TV and ended up with two slivers of transparent tape on two contact tracers on the left side of the screen. I got it back working but lost some colours on that side of the screen. You get used to it, and for whatever reason, some shows are perfect from left to right. Bottom line: I will watch and fix this garbage TV brand "until the cows come home".
These manufacturers should not be allowed to sell junk without a mandatory full, no exception 10 year warranty. That should fix the problem overnight.
Force the manufacturer to take back the tv for recycling, or just tax the manufacturer if a tv dooen’t last for a minimum of 8 years.
Tax the manufacturer 🤔 you mean have the customer pay yet another tax passed on by the manufacturer? Yeah great idea... And taxing a manufacturer 7 1/2 years after a sale because the TV didn't make 8 years 🤣😂🤣😂.
You really didn't think any of this through did you.
Great information and a good warning. Cheers
Somebody should tell my Hisense that it's rubbish! Clearly it doesn't know! Best TV I've ever had, from a highly reviewed brand!
0:20 that’s what she said
6.5"*
Bahahahahaha,
Now dats sum funy MFn shit, Jack !!!!
this video makes me so glad I rescued my grandma's 1990s Zenith tube TV for retro gaming...at least it can be fixed. And it's easy to open.
Pile em high and make them cheap comes to mind.
This is true of many brands, but how Hisense have become one of the worlds largest makers of TV's can only be down to price.
and they are experts at making sets that fail just after the warranty expires,
The latest models use their own Vidaa o/s and it sucks, unlike Google you can't add or remove apps and it tends to lockup the HDMI
switching requiring a hard reset to unlock them, firmware updates have not provided a cure.
When you make a cheap product that fails just after warranty you're bound to become number 1 in selling and the CEOs are rubbing their nipples knowing it.
@@poolhalljunkie9Only until the buyers learn that your product is not made to last , these days trying to buy quality goods at sensible prices is easier said than done.
In Australia consumer law protects you past the standard 1 year warranty, the expectation for a tv to last more than 3 years is entirely reasonable.
People buy the cheapest TV in store and later complain that it doesn't last as long as TVs twice the price. What's new
Speaking of glued screens. I just broke my old 27" IMAC screen (hdd failed) because it was glued on. I watched "how to" videos, took a lot of care, used proper tools, bloody thing still cracked.
Have 3 different 65 Hisense, ranging in age from about 6 years to 2 years, they are all FANTASTIC tvs with zero issues.
Have recommended them to countless friends who bought the same models and none have had ANY issues.
However, I have had issues the two times I bought expensive tvs.....
But yea... Keep talking.
Yeah I've got a 55" Hisense and have had it over 5 years with zero issues so far 🤷🏻♂️
I have had 3 Hisense TVs. The first was a 55 inch 55H6E that died within two weeks of purchase. I returned it to my local Walmart. They exchanged it for the 60H6E, which was on sale for $40 less than the 55 inch. $40 back, and a bigger screen, win-win, and that one is still working over 6 years later.
The last one is a 75 inch 75U7G. Over 3 years later, still going strong, amazing picture and sound no soundbar needed, and I would put this up against any of the big 3 at twice the price.
Totally agree i think mine is great what is this nonsense
To kup sobie jeszcze jeden
I had Hisense 29" 720p tv, it worked for 10 years before finally giving up. It was the cheapest in store and i surely didn't expect that it will last for so long. I bought it as replacement for Samsung which was very expensive at the time but only lived for 2 years.
Samsung are not very good.
So, the cheapest model in the store, lasts as long as the most expensive Samsung!!!
Word. Had 2 Samsung TV´s, both of them failed shortly after warranty expired. Most reliable TV´s for me come from Philips and Panasonic, but i sure can be wrong. It would be good to have a video about the most reliable brands and TV´s.
My Samsung TV had the bottom edge lighting. The left side of the screen became dark. Then a section in the middle started to darken, but not as bad as on the left. In the center at the bottom there were two “flares” of light. One day the left side recovered magically and that part of the picture looked normal. Then the left side went out again.
Although I had repaired TVs in the past, this one went to the dump. I found a RUclips video that explained the problems that this TV was showing, and found another where a repair was performed but the set didn’t end up being good due to an issue that happened with the screen during the disassembly or re-assembly.
The flares at the bottom were the giveaway that some cracks had developed, and that repair would be futile. For those wondering.
That’s not been my experience (in the UK). I’ve always bought Samsung and apart from the seamless integration of sound bars and using the same remote for different models if you misplace one, I’ve never had a single tv fail on me. Still have an old school 50” piano black plasma screen tucked away that was hammered and still worked 100% until I superseded it. (No, I don’t work for Samsung) 😂
@@KurtLang-tt4kv For the last 20+ years ALL my gear has been Samsung. Until my last 2 TV's. One developed white spots (lenses coming unstuck) and one complete screen corruption (known issue on the panels they used) 2 months out of warranty. Also SICK of their pushing Prime, Netflix, Disney all over the remote control and having a microphone in etc.Nah, no more Samsung until they sort their crap out.
@@KurtLang-tt4kv - plasma screens are quite different. And there are different ways of backlighting that Samsung uses, so this wouldn’t be all models. I was very specific regarding the backlighting characteristic of the model that has the problem of not lasting more than four years - edge lighting from the bottom. I’ve seen lots of people post online with similar problems with such TVs, and sometimes even thinking of repairing doesn’t make sense.
tv repairman told me to never run my tv on vivid and extra bright constantly due to back light failure. just watch it on the dark side now and so far so good.
Those settings should be avoided. Additionally you should check your new tv to make sure its not set to "Store Display" or any setting that sounds like that! That's another amped up setting, that prematurely wears out everything! It's only intended to be used to over come the brightness of Store interiors!...
Could you possibly brush on acetone to weaken the reflector sheet glue?
You just cut it below the strip you want to remove.
I bought a 65" Hisense TV around 10 years ago from Richer Sounds, id never heard of them but they assured me it was very high end in the Asian territories. It works flawlessly to this day, ive now given it to my daughter who has it in her house and i upgraded to a Samsung S95B Oled. Id happily buy a Hisense again in the future though.
I bought a hisense 40" tv 12 yesrs ago and it is still in perfect working order today. And i use it every day
That's the key "12 years ago."
Thanks sir for the video, I'm a auto tech with a good deal of electronic knowledge, and have repaired many tv and radios especially good at old tube products, but I agree new tvs suck
Here in the Philippines the Hisense brand is in some stores, kinda mid range price between other unknown china made tat and the known brands such as Sony or Toshiba or Samsung/LG, dunno if there's many mad folk here buy them or not!!!!
Hisense has the rights to Toshiba in your country, so the Toshibas are really higher-end Hisense models. Hisense makes good higher end products, this is just a low end model.
Devant brand is Hisense as well.
Still have an old Philips TV from 2009-ish. Still works fine, still nice and bright. I can't believe this is how bad things have gotten.
i have an LG 32LH3000 from about the same time, the backlight isn't perfectly even anymore but it's still going strong
I'm curious, Allen, are the higher end Hisense TV screens glued down?
I'm only asking, because my friend has just purchased a top end Hisense.
Had a 42-inch version, after two years it turned into a radio!
Most TV s loose the picture.
You might as well buy a radio to start with.
You are complaining about 65". Try to fix 75". Almost cut off my finger when the metal back panel rotated on it. I was "smart" enough to put my fingers in panel openings for better grip. Regrets, regrets... Anyway, you are doing God's work by trying to prevent these TVs from going to the landfill, and I am thanking you for that.
I talked to a tv repair guy who's been in the business for 47yrs. He said ALL TV's today are built to only last a couple years. He recommends the 3yr extended warranty even though he doesn't sell them.
He said Sonys are the worst. If 1 pixel goes bad, it will refuse to work, & there's no way around it. Displays don't last long either.
I found him because Geek Squad said my 2yr old Sony Bravia oled was unrepairable! 🤯🤬 I loved Sony for over 20yrs. I dont expect a high end TV to be disposable!!!