Dude you're all over the place with this video. I expected to see behind-the-scenes of the TITLE of your vid, but it trailed off to way too many pics on your green screen while you eventually switch to John wick, comic books and the marvel universe. What are you doing? Put together a cohesive topic then post it
Sharp knives are always safer than blunt ones. Sharp knives slice clean, blunt knives tear. Clean cuts heal faster with less scarring, tears heal slower and scar more. Just one more reason to always keep your blades sharp.
Years ago I sliced the pad of my thumb clean off when a knife slipped - I could see the bone. The knife was really sharp and it didn’t hurt at all (at the time - it hurt like a bastard when they sewed it back on). I still have no feeling in the thumb though.
@@susear5939 That's usually more to do with the bodies sensory nerves being located near the surface of the skin. It's also why papercuts hurt more than deeper cuts. But, yes, you will experience more pain from a blunt tear than a sharp slice, as more skin tissue will be damaged.
I'd say this is true with the majority of knives (99%) but not with butterflies. Most people don't know how to handle them and keeping the knife blunt save those people from cutting off their own fingers.
@@lolfelixlol Fair enough for this specific accident, but, to be fair, outside of the theater one should use a practice butterfly to get used to it before trying the real thing. My OP was more PSA than critique, anyways
In the movie i fucking love the face Punisher makes when Russian bents his gun by smashing it with a barbell. That sheer look of "Are you fucking kidding me?" is so fukcing good.
Shit and there's still others that are bigger and stronger than him. Shit Kane from the WWE is stronger than him if not mistaken. Those guys are all basically mutants lol
The fight scene was just brutal almost to Netflix Punisher levels. Thomas Jane also made a Punisher fan movie called Dirty Laundry that was pretty entertaining as well.
He made Dirty Laundry because he wanted to keep playing the role. He went to the studio and kept pushing for them to make a sequel for years and they kept telling him no. By the time they finally made War Zone he had moved on. War Zone was supposed to be a direct sequel originally where the son of Howard Saint that he blew up at the end was the one who came back as Jigsaw.
The 2004 Punisher is genuinely a decent film it just kinda gets lumped into that pre-MCU Marvel category of terrible. The music is top notch and you know what…Thomas Jane is a great casting choice.
@@denisl2760 Warzone has its moments, though. Including the one I still don't understand, where the Punisher shoves a pencil inside his nostril and breaks it. If someone could explain what that's supposed to achieve, I'd be thankful.
@@TheNefastor the pencil is supposed to act like a splint and keep the broken bone in his nose straight. I remember being stoked for that movie but couldn’t stop laughing in the theater at how dumb it was. Like that dancing reggae dude doing a backflip into a rocket launcher.
@@GrizzlyTank Oh my god the entire theater, my friends and I were in busted out into hysterical laughter. I'm not sure if that was the intention of the movie or not.
The second wall was completely solid too. The breakaway wall barely even slowed him down, crazy how someone was able to throw him with that much force.
@@Yashirmare TJ is a very physical actor as well but not on the same level as Nash so I could see TJ trying to up his game to keep up with Nash right up to the point where he gets seriously injured.
Fun fact: Wrestlers have a term for repaying someone in kind for them hurting you. Receipt. Or Receipt with interest if you decide to maybe give them more as a lesson in manners.
@@S_047 I know, I'm just saying. It's a hilarious scenario all around, especially since it was supposed to be no sold in the first place. Reminds me of the 90's - early 00's with the Stunner for some reason
fun fact: kevin nash was Super Shredder in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II: Secret of the Ooze. Being his big break into movies. Bonus fact: Perry Saturn was shot (I want to say multiple times but I forget), in the neck while defending a woman being attacked - except he was completely unaware until he saw a doctor weeks later for a sore neck.
That movie might be a 6, but that fight scene is a 9. Also, I think the ending took a point off. The final showdown with Travolta should have ended at the line, “I made you kill your best friend. I made you kill your wife. Now I’ve killed you.” *gunshot* scene. Then the most minimal ride off into the sunset ending, except he rides off into the night, in a van full of guns. That whole car lot skull thing was dumb, and not really The Punisher’s style when he’s at his best in the comics. Hell, Welcome Back Frank was all about Castle setting aside gimmicks, and getting back to simply murdering criminals, and burning down their empires.
@@woodrobin I agree here too, it may look gimmicky from outside eyes who know who the character really is, and bla bla, but for the people who would be living such a situation, yea, this is a way to put a nightmare that you are seeing all the time when you are awake. No Gimmicks about this. you see a car park erupt in explosions, and then you look out side to see a symbol mans's death growing in the flames, you already know the man is after you, but now you are in the middle of a war zone, and its not something you can set aside and just go.. "Ha, what a idea, he made a skull with fire....what a joke". you go, "this man is so talented with explosions, sneaking around, that he did all of this without detection, to send me a message...fuck....this is a major threat"
I'm still convinced a lot of the movie was heavily taken from Mad Max. Especially how his family is killed and the way he tied him to a car set to blow and walked away.
@@ecurps1 church fight in Kingsman lacks deep understanding between fighters. Punisher - Russian fight has many levels and layers you can not see in Kingsman. Kingsman fight is like fight between machines without emotions, doing random stuff just to kill somebody, meanwhile Punisher - Russian fight is full of movements reflecting inner emotions of both fighters reacting to each other. Punisher - Russian fight expresses chain reaction of smartness of both fighters when they try to find a new way to kill each other, every time the current tactic failed.
When undertaker and Mick foley had their legendary hell in a cell match. Undertaker began with his ankle fractured from the start, before his walkout. Mick foley was not meant to fall through the cage. When Mick was carried out on a stretcher , they genuinely thought he was too broken and badly injured to go on. Mick got off the stretcher and continued of his own accord. At one point Mick is thrown off the 16ft cage past the ring and hits the concrete floor. They were both left with permanent injuries because of that fight. Neither of them holds a grudge against the other. Neither man broke kayfabe even though they were both severely injured. It was just another day in the office for them.
Taker said "Go Home" ... Nobody tells Mick Foley when he's had enough. ... I'm offended that Mick's "Missing Ear" didn't make his list of "You carry on anyway" ...
That and their first “Boiler room Brawl” are some of my all time favorite matches. Who knew that the Hell in a Cell match would be history in the making.
This man is now on my list as some of the most badass people ever. He tanked a full on blunt knife stab like a kid punching a 30 year old man and smiled.
I read the novelization of the screenplay before the movie came out. The book did a better job at portraying the motivations and raw emotion of the characters. There were some brutal scenes that didn't make it into the movie. Like his partner in the police force was the one that sold him out the gang and told them where his family was. Frank gives him a revolver with a single bullet and forces him to play russian roulette, ultimately blowing his own head off.
The thing with Kevin Nash ("The Russian" from Punisher) is that he is also a pro-wrestler and the thing with pro-wrestlers is that even if they get hurt they are taught to "go on with the show" as reasonably as possible (provided it's not an injury that stops them, like a quad tear) since they can't just call "cut" and do a reshoot since they are in front of a live audience, so it doesn't surprise me he kept going after being stabbed. Still impressive he continued.
Not part of the conversation but I really like the moment when Baldur smacks Kratos in the face in the first 2 hours of God of War 2018. Actually that whole first fight is like 2 big guys showing how ineffective the other guy's punches are.
The info about Thomas Jane being thrown through the hallway wall is incorrect according to the original DVD special features. Jane threw himself through the wall that hard, notably harder than the stunt coordinator instructed him to. Kevin Nash did throw Jane's stunt double through the kitchen wall and then burst through the wall himself, tearing a 2x4 out of the wall in the process.
I was going to mention that! Jane wanted to do the stunt, so they told him how to do it, and he flung himself through with like twice as much speed and power as was necessary! The resulting violent landing is what we get in the film!
I love how you can pretty much rewatch any Fact Fiend video a few months later and not get bored half way through a video you’ve seen. You guys are great.
Yeah sorry but I have to disagree with you about Iron man being the victim in Civil War. What happened to him was sad, but he knew that Bucky wasn't in control of his actions and he knew Zemo was just bullshitting them into fighting, but he still lashed out at Bucky because there was no other outlet for his anger. Tony's thought process was basically just: "Bucky is the one in the video = Bucky is the one who is responsible."
I wholeheartedly agree. You can't blame the guy who was brainwashed for doing things not under his own volition. He was being used as a mindless weapon. His actions were not his own.
I think it was also a bit of resentment towards Bucky that Cap chose him over Stark and was so willing to go against his "friend" for someone who has done so many horrible things (obviously not his choice)
@@kman9884 could not disagree more, during the fight scenes almost none of the characters are trying to kill each other, only stop/capture them, the only one who is actively out for blood is Black Panther because that ties into his arc in the movie, you might have known this if you payed attention during those "3 minutes" of dialogue. Also in the comics they literally never discuss anything, they choose sides randomly, and it just instantly goes into fighting with only the slightest amount of setup, so the deaths in the civil war mean basically nothing.
@@kman9884 Technically, Tony Stark's issues that reached their climax in Civil War and their Catharsis in Endgame started in the first Iron Man. His eventual PTSD from his kidnapping took a weird inward turn when he realized that the warlord group that took him were using his own tech, and he spent the entire rest of Phases 1 through 3 trying to put that genie back in its bottle. Cap's issues can similarly be tracked from his original film all the way out, especially when you consider that the unlawful controls on enhanced beings in the Sokovia Accords were identical to the "preventive" strikes planned in Winter Soldier, just expressed in a slightly different way. As an aside, the fight choreography in that scene was brilliant. You can tell just watching it that two of those guys are professional soldiers and street kids from 1930's Brooklyn, and one of them is a rich kid in a metal suit.
"He is when he's played by Thomas Jane." - Yes! Thank you (the "Punisher - Dirty Laundry" bootleg film Jane did will always be peak cinematic Punisher)!
The Punisher game from 2005 is Tom Jane's best take as the character. You can have him explain all the weapons in the game and how they affect the human body. My favourite being describing a .50 cal sniper rifle as "For long distance brain surgery."
@Gretchen Z I think it was more about the gay senator's political career, than it was about homophobia. But I watched that season 2 years ago, I don't remember the details.
There is an unwritten rule that I'd someone gets hurt and the take is usable, that's the one that gets in the movie. Have seen a few interviews where that is mentioned and it seems prevalent between stunt coordinators and directors
@@babydoza2289 it's not his real blood. Leo did cut his hand filming that scene and kept acting but they stopped to wrap his hand. Tarantino liked how it looked so much he suggested he rub the blood on Kerry Washington's face when they film it again and they used fake blood.
Yeah to say Nash is a monster is an understatement. I went to see a WCW show at a Civic Center and was by Nash when he was leaving the building it was the first time I have ever see a human being duck under amd sideways through a door way.
"They were afraid they couldn't find someone physically large enough to play The Russian" To be fair, that was 2004, before Halthor Bjornson became The Mountain That Rides
As I recall, in the comic Spider-Man got involved (he sees two guys fighting on top of a building and swings in). The Russian knocked him out and Punisher used him as a shield, then used the web-slingers to knock the Russian off the building. When Spider-Man woke up, Frank told him they had a team-up, and he was amazing.
Hearing your recounting of this is just incredible, laughed so much and had to replay your honest reactions a few times. Bad-ass and hilarious. Thank you so much for all you do. Your team's story-telling, journalistic integrity and ability to make us laugh is so deeply appreciated and has been for many years.
Wolverine going through Stryker's men in Xavier's School in X2. It was the first really, really lethal fight, and it was with the right character and motivations. the final hunt scene in Logan is equally good. i have to agree that the civil war final fight is technically amazing, easily best fight choreography in the film MCU. i also love the big melee, it really captured the classic supers vs supers from the comics, far better than anything in guardians or xmen or even the other avengers films. Netflix Daredevil had some downright unbelievable choreography. the single take hallway scene is some of the best fight cinema ever filmed.
I still say this is one of my favorite comic movies, and one of my favorite movies period. I know it's not a popular opinion but hey what the hell. Lol
The HHH torn thigh muscle happed during the match. So he let Chris Jericho put him in the lion tamer while having a blown up muscle. And took like a champ.
This film is absolutely amazing with the exception of two things: the dialogue of "you're gonna die tonight, aren't you?" and the Punisher's dialogue of "check the obituaries"
This explains why I loved the Russian fight scene so much. Felt so raw and realistic. The torturing earring kid, then the opera music, then the entire drawn out fight scene with the rest of them doing nothing when he breaks into their apartment. Amazing.
Nash no selling a stab wound is par for the course with that generation of pro wrestlers. Those boys were tough as nails back then especially compared to this generation of wrestlers.
The best wrestler getting hurt story is probably Vader he got hit in the head so hard it popped his eyeball out of the socket and he just popped it back in and carried on. He really is a tough guy
Also, Mankind vs The Undertaker Hell in a Cell match. Mankind fell off the cage and broke his back and while being carried away on a stretcher he woke up, ran back to the ring and climbed up the cage to continue the fight. He got his face smashed in and his teeth were sticking out of his nose and still continued to fight
@@GrizzlyTank also the kotr match between Shane and angle where they put the wrong glass in the thing and kurt suplexed Shane glass didn’t break he lands on his head gets a concussion and just says try again then the glass breaks. Tldr Shane got dropped on his head then grown through real glass
I love that scene with Spiderman and WS soldier too bc you know in that second WS is like "WTF? 'Awesome dude'? omfg this kid is definitely only 14 or 15 or some shit..."
6:00 The moment that jumped out first to me is actually when you see the person realize they underestimated who they were up against. Its from Naruto, during the chunin exams, when Lee takes off the weights. How Gaara goes from the angry scowl to shear panic realizing Lee is literally faster than his ultimate defense. Rock Lee has some of the best fights.
Still my favorite version of The Punisher. Thomas Jane went all-in for the role. The scene where Nash throws him through the wall and he hits his head on the other wall was not only Jane doing it, but was his idea. They all got banged up good. The craziest one is when they blow up the propane tank in the beginning, they actually set a guy on fire.
To me the most amazing moment of a wrestler just walking off an injury was the time that Sabu was in a barbed wire match and got an 11-inch gash that his bicep was practically hanging out of. His solution? Duct tape. And then he finished the match.
Kevin Nash was one of my favorite wrestlers because of how well he could act. Seeing that mountain of a man expressing true rage was both exhilarating and terrifying at the same time. His speed and power were legendary and right up there with Andre's when Andre was young. Paul White the "Big Show" was another such man in his younger days. Nash however never lost all of his speed and definitely not much of his strength. He was the perfect "Russian" and brought that character from the panel to the screen. I also really enjoy Thomas Jane's works as he's one hell of an actor as well. It's a shame he's never gotten a huge break but the roles he has landed have been so well portrayed by him that even if it's a bad part he makes it great. This was a fun trip down memory lane not just for making me want to watch the "Punisher" again but some old WWF footage as well as everything I can find of both of these awesome entertainers works...
I think Thomas Jane is an underrated actor. He was a good choice for the Punisher but the story could have been a lot better. He really put his all into that role, and it shows in the film.
I appreciated the anguished anger in Jane's performance, nothing beats the sheer utter pissed off, tired, utterly fed upness with every thing that was Warzone. He can't be reasoned with, he doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And he absolutely will not stop, ever, until they are dead.
The wrestler that Karl mentioned in video that had his hand caught in a car door was Ray Traylor - The Big Boss Man. He did not want to show the pain he was feeling in front of fans that were outside of the arena.
I took a steak knife to the back and it truly doesn’t feel the way you’d think it would. It feels more akin to getting punched really hard than it does getting sliced with a razor or something similar. I didn’t know I had been stabbed. I did , however, know that I’d been hit by something exceptionally hard. tl;dr Nash probably just thought he was hit super hard with a prop knife.
Punctures don't really feel that bad unless they *hit* something, and even then it's not until it gets pulled out that the problems REALLY start (unless you got it in the heart, kidney, or airway, but then you're already dead).
Funny thing about getting stabbed: It just feels like you're getting punched a bit harder than one normally could. It's cuts that have that sharp pain.
@@riftvallance2087 yep. The guy I was playing with threw it really hard. And it stuck into my right tibia. I still admire the scar to this day. Funny thing is that my father has a chicken scar in his left foot himself. His words when he saw what happened. .. "Mmmmhmmm yeah hurts doesn't it?" Looking back, it really wasn't one of my more intelligent moments.
@@incognitofool6516 indeed, I had the joy of vending a show and my table was next to his. Spent the weekend chit chatting about his work in film, almost being sabertooth in Xmen etc.
@@incognitofool6516 Big guys are almost always nice dudes. If you're that big the only things you have to worry about are finding clothes that fit you and the grocery bill. Everything else is easy.
The story about a wrestler getting his hand caught in a car door of a taxi was Ray Washington Traylor Jr, better known as the Big Boss Man, but he was working with WCW as Big Bubba Rogers when the car door thing happened.
That’s pretty cool but it doesn’t really surprise me, when a lot of people get stabbed they don’t even feel it because of the adrenaline, although that’s during fights but high intensity moments like filming an intense fight scene would cause your adrenaline to pump.
I feel like it'd depend on where you're stabbed I also feel like a gash would hurt more than a stab (like a papercut vs poking yourself with a pin). I'm sure once the shock wears off, it'd hurt either way I wouldn't know though.
Just want to say, as it is a bit of a pet peeve of mine. A Switchblade is not the same as a Butterfly knife/Balisong. A Switchblade uses a switch to reveal the blade, a Butterfly knife/Balisong uses gravity and motion to open up and reveal the blade.
Amazing video mate. I think it kind of shows that Nash missed a trick in his career by not going full time into movies. He's better in the Punisher than his whole wrestling career... All this said very surprised you didn't mention this guy was also Super Shredder. 😇 Also, yes. Civil War fight was awesome.
6 out of 10? How dare you. The majority of that film is pure gold. Just because the connecting tissue of the plot was largely mediocre doesn't mean anything when the action served up (and this is an action film, mind you) is so perfect.
I always thought Thomas Jane's Punisher made for a great origin story, but I couldn't see his version being a long term character choice. Ray Stevenson made a great long term character choice, but would have sucked as an origin character. For where each character was within the Punisher's life-arc, each did an amazing job!
Dude you're all over the place with this video. I expected to see behind-the-scenes of the TITLE of your vid, but it trailed off to way too many pics on your green screen while you eventually switch to John wick, comic books and the marvel universe. What are you doing? Put together a cohesive topic then post it
No.
How have you not gotten the concept of this channel yet?
That’s the channel, which makes it amazing
You tryna watch him say the same thing for 15 minutes? You can click off whenever bruh he talked about it pretty soon in the vid
I don't even know what your point is. He still talks about what happens in the video. It's not that disjointed. Everything he talks about is relevent
Kevin Nash's finisher was called the "Jackknife", so it stands to reason he could take being stabbed like it was nothing.
That is not how that works.
@@DeathTheKid6778 Clearly Kevin Nash makes it so
The Punisher should've went for his Quadricep.
@@DeathTheKid6778 Except for when it does, like in this instance!
@@joehung1552 Aww you missed it! He should of went for the head!
Fun fact: when John wick asks Kevin if he lost weight, Kevin isn't talking about his weight. He's telling wick how many guards are inside.
I didnt even pick up on that😯 woah
I didn’t realize that thanks sir
Fuck that blows my mind!
What really
Wow very fun
Guess we know who should play B.J. Blazkowicz in a Wolfenstein film
Heck yeah!
@@jet100a heck yeah nope
Or Doomguy in a DOOM Movie.
Clearly you mean emma watson as a strong female who don't need no man.
Not German looking enough
Sharp knives are always safer than blunt ones. Sharp knives slice clean, blunt knives tear. Clean cuts heal faster with less scarring, tears heal slower and scar more. Just one more reason to always keep your blades sharp.
Years ago I sliced the pad of my thumb clean off when a knife slipped - I could see the bone. The knife was really sharp and it didn’t hurt at all (at the time - it hurt like a bastard when they sewed it back on). I still have no feeling in the thumb though.
@@susear5939 That's usually more to do with the bodies sensory nerves being located near the surface of the skin. It's also why papercuts hurt more than deeper cuts. But, yes, you will experience more pain from a blunt tear than a sharp slice, as more skin tissue will be damaged.
I'd say this is true with the majority of knives (99%) but not with butterflies. Most people don't know how to handle them and keeping the knife blunt save those people from cutting off their own fingers.
@@lolfelixlol Fair enough for this specific accident, but, to be fair, outside of the theater one should use a practice butterfly to get used to it before trying the real thing.
My OP was more PSA than critique, anyways
Yeah... cut yourself with a saw... thats not fun. (recently skinned my finger with a silky)
In the movie i fucking love the face Punisher makes when Russian bents his gun by smashing it with a barbell. That sheer look of "Are you fucking kidding me?" is so fukcing good.
Lmao that and batting the grenade back are my favorite moments
YES!!! 😆😆😆😆
Best punisher movie
@@joshkilluminadi7158 there wasn’t much competition lol
@@PetalsFourArmorthe Dolph lundgren one Had its moments
So Kevin nash is as strong as a literal comic book character.
that is until he has to run for a tag which will eventually break his quads within seconds
@@JogVodka So he's good as log as he stays out of team ups!
And the shredder
Can’t come up with an argument to that statement
no just a living brain dead survivor
"Brick shithouse" doesn't even begin to describe Kevin Nash. This old, and still an absolute UNIT.
I'd say he's built like a Brick Shithouse, but Brick Shithouses are built like Kevin Nash
U sed unit.. lol
Shit and there's still others that are bigger and stronger than him. Shit Kane from the WWE is stronger than him if not mistaken. Those guys are all basically mutants lol
Brick shot house from the waist up
@@__-wm9lu That's cause he ain't got much material left in the legs. Years worth of quadriceps injuries will do that
The fight scene was just brutal almost to Netflix Punisher levels. Thomas Jane also made a Punisher fan movie called Dirty Laundry that was pretty entertaining as well.
Dirty Laundry was one of the best Punisher movies. Yeah I know that it was fan made but it was spot on.
Dirty Laundry is amazing. I loved what Avi did with Venom as well.
He made Dirty Laundry because he wanted to keep playing the role. He went to the studio and kept pushing for them to make a sequel for years and they kept telling him no. By the time they finally made War Zone he had moved on. War Zone was supposed to be a direct sequel originally where the son of Howard Saint that he blew up at the end was the one who came back as Jigsaw.
@@obsidianmoon13 good thing he didn't waste his time, that one was awful lol. Not even because of the actor, just the rest of it sucked.
I like Dirty Laundry, but the Punisher wouldn't have left while that woman was getting hurt.
The 2004 Punisher is genuinely a decent film it just kinda gets lumped into that pre-MCU Marvel category of terrible. The music is top notch and you know what…Thomas Jane is a great casting choice.
It was better than Warzone
@@denisl2760 Warzone has its moments, though. Including the one I still don't understand, where the Punisher shoves a pencil inside his nostril and breaks it. If someone could explain what that's supposed to achieve, I'd be thankful.
@@TheNefastor the pencil is supposed to act like a splint and keep the broken bone in his nose straight. I remember being stoked for that movie but couldn’t stop laughing in the theater at how dumb it was. Like that dancing reggae dude doing a backflip into a rocket launcher.
@@GrizzlyTank Oh my god the entire theater, my friends and I were in busted out into hysterical laughter. I'm not sure if that was the intention of the movie or not.
There were good superhero movies pre MCU. The Sam Raimi Spider-man Trilogy, Dark Night Trilogy.
Not only did he get thrown clean through one wall he hit the other one across the hall. I’d say there even
With his head! Yikes
And if he didn't get his hand up just in time, he would be paralysed today.
The second wall was completely solid too. The breakaway wall barely even slowed him down, crazy how someone was able to throw him with that much force.
@@denisl2760 Well that's the thing, according to a 2017 panel with Nash, Jane did a run up and ended up knocking himself out.
@@Yashirmare TJ is a very physical actor as well but not on the same level as Nash so I could see TJ trying to up his game to keep up with Nash right up to the point where he gets seriously injured.
Fun fact: Wrestlers have a term for repaying someone in kind for them hurting you. Receipt. Or Receipt with interest if you decide to maybe give them more as a lesson in manners.
JBL getting hit with that chair
But do you deserve to cash in a receipt if you no-sold the initial hit? 🤔
@@TwizslurD Dudley Boys had to do that to Public Enemy. Laid the beat down on them when they no sold their finishing move.
@@S_047 I know, I'm just saying. It's a hilarious scenario all around, especially since it was supposed to be no sold in the first place. Reminds me of the 90's - early 00's with the Stunner for some reason
@@TwizslurD I'll be honest, not a big enough pro-wrestling aficionado to know the finer details.
Kevin Nash *gets stabbed *
Nash”hey, at least my quads didn’t tear”
This man got stabbed and wanted cold beer as compensation for the injury
@@kaldo_kaldo Kevin Nash was notorious for constantly tearing his quads during his pro wrestling days
😂😂😂
fun fact: kevin nash was Super Shredder in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II: Secret of the Ooze. Being his big break into movies.
Bonus fact: Perry Saturn was shot (I want to say multiple times but I forget), in the neck while defending a woman being attacked - except he was completely unaware until he saw a doctor weeks later for a sore neck.
I was hoping someone mentioned him being Super Shredder. :)
Fun fact ...parry saturn was ex special forces
Moppy
Lots of wrestlers have done some crazy stuff that most people wouldn't even believe was real. The stuff they go through and endure is insane.
I hope Saturn is doing alright. Last I heard he was homeless
That movie might be a 6, but that fight scene is a 9. Also, I think the ending took a point off. The final showdown with Travolta should have ended at the line, “I made you kill your best friend. I made you kill your wife. Now I’ve killed you.” *gunshot* scene. Then the most minimal ride off into the sunset ending, except he rides off into the night, in a van full of guns.
That whole car lot skull thing was dumb, and not really The Punisher’s style when he’s at his best in the comics.
Hell, Welcome Back Frank was all about Castle setting aside gimmicks, and getting back to simply murdering criminals, and burning down their empires.
Lol right. Man I love punisher. Will we see the 'Cuda in a movie one day
Movie was good ending was good too.
@@woodrobin I agree here too, it may look gimmicky from outside eyes who know who the character really is, and bla bla, but for the people who would be living such a situation, yea, this is a way to put a nightmare that you are seeing all the time when you are awake. No Gimmicks about this. you see a car park erupt in explosions, and then you look out side to see a symbol mans's death growing in the flames, you already know the man is after you, but now you are in the middle of a war zone, and its not something you can set aside and just go.. "Ha, what a idea, he made a skull with fire....what a joke". you go, "this man is so talented with explosions, sneaking around, that he did all of this without detection, to send me a message...fuck....this is a major threat"
I'm still convinced a lot of the movie was heavily taken from Mad Max. Especially how his family is killed and the way he tied him to a car set to blow and walked away.
so 6 and 9 hehe
favorite part of that fight is when Nash bends the revolver barrel and Jane's expression is just gold.
wouldnt be surprised if Nash had actually bent a real gun in that scene
It's just a look of "come on, man. Give me something."
best fight scene at all, both actors did great. I can't find better or same good scene in any other movie.
@@marian20012 the church fight in Kingsman.
@@ecurps1 church fight in Kingsman lacks deep understanding between fighters. Punisher - Russian fight has many levels and layers you can not see in Kingsman. Kingsman fight is like fight between machines without emotions, doing random stuff just to kill somebody, meanwhile Punisher - Russian fight is full of movements reflecting inner emotions of both fighters reacting to each other. Punisher - Russian fight expresses chain reaction of smartness of both fighters when they try to find a new way to kill each other, every time the current tactic failed.
When undertaker and Mick foley had their legendary hell in a cell match. Undertaker began with his ankle fractured from the start, before his walkout. Mick foley was not meant to fall through the cage. When Mick was carried out on a stretcher , they genuinely thought he was too broken and badly injured to go on. Mick got off the stretcher and continued of his own accord. At one point Mick is thrown off the 16ft cage past the ring and hits the concrete floor.
They were both left with permanent injuries because of that fight. Neither of them holds a grudge against the other. Neither man broke kayfabe even though they were both severely injured.
It was just another day in the office for them.
Taker said "Go Home" ... Nobody tells Mick Foley when he's had enough. ... I'm offended that Mick's "Missing Ear" didn't make his list of "You carry on anyway" ...
That and their first “Boiler room Brawl” are some of my all time favorite matches. Who knew that the Hell in a Cell match would be history in the making.
This man is now on my list as some of the most badass people ever. He tanked a full on blunt knife stab like a kid punching a 30 year old man and smiled.
Yeah, but he can’t run the ropes without blowing out his quads.
Did you see Thomas' head hit the brick when he got thrown through the wall? That was literally almost as brutal, jesus Christ.
Surprised Kevin Nash didn't tear his quads during filming
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This guy knows what's up ;)
Surprised he didn't tear his quads while reading the script.
Enough with that already.
Maybe he was filmed sitting down, so that made him indestructible.
It's a pity that the script for the Punisher didn't live up to the awesome coolness of the actors involved. :)
Yeah, that's what actors call "paying your dues". Sometimes you just have to deal with shitty scripts to earn a living.
I still enjoyed that movie. The Netflix series is better
I read the novelization of the screenplay before the movie came out. The book did a better job at portraying the motivations and raw emotion of the characters. There were some brutal scenes that didn't make it into the movie. Like his partner in the police force was the one that sold him out the gang and told them where his family was. Frank gives him a revolver with a single bullet and forces him to play russian roulette, ultimately blowing his own head off.
“He’s 6”10. You can’t teach that”
Karl out here almost quoting Enzo Amore lol
The thing with Kevin Nash ("The Russian" from Punisher) is that he is also a pro-wrestler and the thing with pro-wrestlers is that even if they get hurt they are taught to "go on with the show" as reasonably as possible (provided it's not an injury that stops them, like a quad tear) since they can't just call "cut" and do a reshoot since they are in front of a live audience, so it doesn't surprise me he kept going after being stabbed. Still impressive he continued.
Wasn't all of this explained in the video?
@@DozenMarks yes it was.
@@DozenMarks absolutely
John2011cool
He literally said most of that in the video
Not part of the conversation but I really like the moment when Baldur smacks Kratos in the face in the first 2 hours of God of War 2018. Actually that whole first fight is like 2 big guys showing how ineffective the other guy's punches are.
The info about Thomas Jane being thrown through the hallway wall is incorrect according to the original DVD special features. Jane threw himself through the wall that hard, notably harder than the stunt coordinator instructed him to. Kevin Nash did throw Jane's stunt double through the kitchen wall and then burst through the wall himself, tearing a 2x4 out of the wall in the process.
I was going to mention that! Jane wanted to do the stunt, so they told him how to do it, and he flung himself through with like twice as much speed and power as was necessary! The resulting violent landing is what we get in the film!
I love how you can pretty much rewatch any Fact Fiend video a few months later and not get bored half way through a video you’ve seen. You guys are great.
Yeah sorry but I have to disagree with you about Iron man being the victim in Civil War.
What happened to him was sad, but he knew that Bucky wasn't in control of his actions and he knew Zemo was just bullshitting them into fighting, but he still lashed out at Bucky because there was no other outlet for his anger.
Tony's thought process was basically just:
"Bucky is the one in the video = Bucky is the one who is responsible."
I wholeheartedly agree. You can't blame the guy who was brainwashed for doing things not under his own volition. He was being used as a mindless weapon. His actions were not his own.
I think it was also a bit of resentment towards Bucky that Cap chose him over Stark and was so willing to go against his "friend" for someone who has done so many horrible things (obviously not his choice)
@@kman9884 could not disagree more, during the fight scenes almost none of the characters are trying to kill each other, only stop/capture them, the only one who is actively out for blood is Black Panther because that ties into his arc in the movie, you might have known this if you payed attention during those "3 minutes" of dialogue.
Also in the comics they literally never discuss anything, they choose sides randomly, and it just instantly goes into fighting with only the slightest amount of setup, so the deaths in the civil war mean basically nothing.
@@kman9884 Technically, Tony Stark's issues that reached their climax in Civil War and their Catharsis in Endgame started in the first Iron Man. His eventual PTSD from his kidnapping took a weird inward turn when he realized that the warlord group that took him were using his own tech, and he spent the entire rest of Phases 1 through 3 trying to put that genie back in its bottle. Cap's issues can similarly be tracked from his original film all the way out, especially when you consider that the unlawful controls on enhanced beings in the Sokovia Accords were identical to the "preventive" strikes planned in Winter Soldier, just expressed in a slightly different way.
As an aside, the fight choreography in that scene was brilliant. You can tell just watching it that two of those guys are professional soldiers and street kids from 1930's Brooklyn, and one of them is a rich kid in a metal suit.
"He is when he's played by Thomas Jane." - Yes! Thank you (the "Punisher - Dirty Laundry" bootleg film Jane did will always be peak cinematic Punisher)!
Yeah I love Thomas Jane Punisher, John Bernthal is cool be he never quite clicked.
The Punisher game from 2005 is Tom Jane's best take as the character. You can have him explain all the weapons in the game and how they affect the human body. My favourite being describing a .50 cal sniper rifle as "For long distance brain surgery."
@@InReserveProductions lol
@Gretchen Z I think it was more about the gay senator's political career, than it was about homophobia. But I watched that season 2 years ago, I don't remember the details.
There is an unwritten rule that I'd someone gets hurt and the take is usable, that's the one that gets in the movie. Have seen a few interviews where that is mentioned and it seems prevalent between stunt coordinators and directors
Just ask the three stooges.
Just so helps its almost always the best and most convincing scene anyways
Leo in Django....smashes his hand on a glass and rubs his real blood all over Kerry Washington's face. Absolute legend
@@babydoza2289 it's not his real blood. Leo did cut his hand filming that scene and kept acting but they stopped to wrap his hand. Tarantino liked how it looked so much he suggested he rub the blood on Kerry Washington's face when they film it again and they used fake blood.
Tom Cruise breaking his ankle in MI:6 is an example. I think it was the 6th one, maybe it was 5?
Yeah to say Nash is a monster is an understatement. I went to see a WCW show at a Civic Center and was by Nash when he was leaving the building it was the first time I have ever see a human being duck under amd sideways through a door way.
Crazy right. I met the Big Show once when I was 16, and if I remember correctly I was essentially eye level with his chest.
I saw him at the Florence Civilc Center and he is fucking insanely huge.
@@marcgonzalez9690 yeah big show is literally taller than anyone else they ever bring out. Seen him by Kane and was still multiple inches taller
In wrestling parlance Nash gave Jane a "receipt".
This makes the John Wick scene with him that much better for me.
"They were afraid they couldn't find someone physically large enough to play The Russian"
To be fair, that was 2004, before Halthor Bjornson became The Mountain That Rides
Well hafthor wouldve only been like, 15 in 2004
@@kaldo_kaldo kevin is like 100-150 lbs less than Thor
There's plenty of people big enough.
Kevin Nash is the epitome of consummate professionalism. Wow...what a story. I can't believe I've never heard this before.
As I recall, in the comic Spider-Man got involved (he sees two guys fighting on top of a building and swings in). The Russian knocked him out and Punisher used him as a shield, then used the web-slingers to knock the Russian off the building. When Spider-Man woke up, Frank told him they had a team-up, and he was amazing.
The Punisher 2004 is the most underrated superhero movie, imho.
I never even knew about it until this video 😂
Hearing your recounting of this is just incredible, laughed so much and had to replay your honest reactions a few times. Bad-ass and hilarious.
Thank you so much for all you do. Your team's story-telling, journalistic integrity and ability to make us laugh is so deeply appreciated and has been for many years.
Wow. I’ve never really winced at that scene until today. Knowing the story makes it so much more rad
Wolverine going through Stryker's men in Xavier's School in X2. It was the first really, really lethal fight, and it was with the right character and motivations. the final hunt scene in Logan is equally good.
i have to agree that the civil war final fight is technically amazing, easily best fight choreography in the film MCU. i also love the big melee, it really captured the classic supers vs supers from the comics, far better than anything in guardians or xmen or even the other avengers films.
Netflix Daredevil had some downright unbelievable choreography. the single take hallway scene is some of the best fight cinema ever filmed.
I like the punisher gym fight secne
Thank god the prop guy wasn't in charge of the pot of boiling water.
This movie is underrated. For the time it came out it was one of my favorite comic movies!
Definitely one of the best soundtracks.
I think about this movie Everytime I see one of those guillotine paper cutter things
I still say this is one of my favorite comic movies, and one of my favorite movies period. I know it's not a popular opinion but hey what the hell. Lol
Man I thought Ultimate Warrior was the best no seller. Kevin Nash has taken his spot lmfao
he actually smiled very sadistically, like he liked it. 8:08 - even more badass
Vince McMahon tore both his quads walking to the ring, Triple H tore his in the middle of a match and continued to fight...on two separate occasions.
HHH even took a Walls of Jericho with a torn quad too.
The HHH torn thigh muscle happed during the match.
So he let Chris Jericho put him in the lion tamer while having a blown up muscle.
And took like a champ.
He's Diesel. 1/3 of the original NWO. Big Sexy. He's literally a wrestling legend.
He also played College Basketball, and would have been drafted ... That's why Big Kev is so quick and agile.
That which makes a Mack truck go 😂
Kevin Nash's greatest role is The Longest yard, he' so funny in it
For real, easily one of the most memorable people in the film.
Agreed. Really liked him in Rock of Ages as well.
Super shredder
He was one of the best bits of Dead or Alive as Bass as well.
That was one of the best scenes in the Thomas Jane Punisher. It was completely comedic while being a tense fight scene.
I'm glad you mentioned the "through the wall" scene. I've always said that scene deserves an Oscar because Tom Jane takes that like a fucking champ!
When cap gives Thanos a beat down with Mjolnir and the shield he's essentially using all 3 Titan subclasses at once.
Saw Kevin Nash once at Comic Con... Dude is a monster
And if he gets his way, he'll be a Munster. 😎
Can't believe no one has mentioned Kevin Nash was also Super Shredder in TMNT 2 Secret of the Ooze.
No way
This film is absolutely amazing with the exception of two things: the dialogue of "you're gonna die tonight, aren't you?" and the Punisher's dialogue of "check the obituaries"
This explains why I loved the Russian fight scene so much. Felt so raw and realistic. The torturing earring kid, then the opera music, then the entire drawn out fight scene with the rest of them doing nothing when he breaks into their apartment. Amazing.
I loved Thomas Jane as the Punisher. It was such a good movie. I never understood why it got so much hate.
Glad you covered this. This story arc in the comic is one of my all time favorites.
Few artists are more commited to the saying "the show must go on" than professional wrestlers.
Nash no selling a stab wound is par for the course with that generation of pro wrestlers. Those boys were tough as nails back then especially compared to this generation of wrestlers.
Kevin nash after filming finished, and he arives home and closes his door: FUCKING HELL THAT HURT AAAGGGHH
The best wrestler getting hurt story is probably Vader he got hit in the head so hard it popped his eyeball out of the socket and he just popped it back in and carried on. He really is a tough guy
Also, Mankind vs The Undertaker Hell in a Cell match. Mankind fell off the cage and broke his back and while being carried away on a stretcher he woke up, ran back to the ring and climbed up the cage to continue the fight. He got his face smashed in and his teeth were sticking out of his nose and still continued to fight
@@GrizzlyTank also the kotr match between Shane and angle where they put the wrong glass in the thing and kurt suplexed Shane glass didn’t break he lands on his head gets a concussion and just says try again then the glass breaks. Tldr Shane got dropped on his head then grown through real glass
I love that scene with Spiderman and WS soldier too bc you know in that second WS is like "WTF? 'Awesome dude'? omfg this kid is definitely only 14 or 15 or some shit..."
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The moment that jumped out first to me is actually when you see the person realize they underestimated who they were up against. Its from Naruto, during the chunin exams, when Lee takes off the weights. How Gaara goes from the angry scowl to shear panic realizing Lee is literally faster than his ultimate defense. Rock Lee has some of the best fights.
Best part of that movie is the diner scene when he plays that song.
I love how it's the just the real life version of the thing they were trying to film.
Madman Kevin Nash no sold a knife
This makes the movie way more badass than I remember.
Nash was still under the influence of the mutagen ooze from the time he turned into Super Shredder
Still my favorite version of The Punisher. Thomas Jane went all-in for the role. The scene where Nash throws him through the wall and he hits his head on the other wall was not only Jane doing it, but was his idea. They all got banged up good. The craziest one is when they blow up the propane tank in the beginning, they actually set a guy on fire.
To me the most amazing moment of a wrestler just walking off an injury was the time that Sabu was in a barbed wire match and got an 11-inch gash that his bicep was practically hanging out of. His solution? Duct tape. And then he finished the match.
Kevin Nash was one of my favorite wrestlers because of how well he could act. Seeing that mountain of a man expressing true rage was both exhilarating and terrifying at the same time. His speed and power were legendary and right up there with Andre's when Andre was young. Paul White the "Big Show" was another such man in his younger days. Nash however never lost all of his speed and definitely not much of his strength. He was the perfect "Russian" and brought that character from the panel to the screen. I also really enjoy Thomas Jane's works as he's one hell of an actor as well. It's a shame he's never gotten a huge break but the roles he has landed have been so well portrayed by him that even if it's a bad part he makes it great. This was a fun trip down memory lane not just for making me want to watch the "Punisher" again but some old WWF footage as well as everything I can find of both of these awesome entertainers works...
I think Thomas Jane is an underrated actor. He was a good choice for the Punisher but the story could have been a lot better. He really put his all into that role, and it shows in the film.
I appreciated the anguished anger in Jane's performance, nothing beats the sheer utter pissed off, tired, utterly fed upness with every thing that was Warzone.
He can't be reasoned with, he doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And he absolutely will not stop, ever, until they are dead.
everyone talks about it... but I quite like the hallway fight in daredevil season 1.
The wrestler that Karl mentioned in video that had his hand caught in a car door was Ray Traylor - The Big Boss Man. He did not want to show the pain he was feeling in front of fans that were outside of the arena.
*gets stabbed
Kevin Nash: Oh no! Anyway.
*continues the scene like a Chad
After he got stabbed the crew asked him if there was anything he'd like on set. Nash told him it would be nice to have beer on ice.
The wrestler who got his hand caught in a door was The Big Boss Man back before he was The Big Boss Man.
The ultimate example has to be Crocodile Dundee & the famous knife scene, "That's not a knife, now that's a knife"
No disrespect but are you okay mate you look like your not as healthy as before you look slickly
It’s almost like I’ve been stuck inside for a year for some reason.
@@FactFiend best reply ever 😭🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@FactFiend Hmmmmmm, can't imagine why lol
@@FactFiend just know I'm certain they asked that with genuine caring intentions.
Note to self make that sound less parasocial and creepy..
@@FactFiend now what could possibly have been a contributing factor to that....
I’ve always loved this movie because it was my first introduction to Frank castle the punisher however after learning that fact I love it even more
I took a steak knife to the back and it truly doesn’t feel the way you’d think it would. It feels more akin to getting punched really hard than it does getting sliced with a razor or something similar. I didn’t know I had been stabbed. I did , however, know that I’d been hit by something exceptionally hard.
tl;dr Nash probably just thought he was hit super hard with a prop knife.
Punctures don't really feel that bad unless they *hit* something, and even then it's not until it gets pulled out that the problems REALLY start (unless you got it in the heart, kidney, or airway, but then you're already dead).
So it’s kinda like that one movie scene where that guy was lik “yo when did I get stabbed,that’s awesome!”
For some reason youtube has stopped recommending these videos but still recommends the behind the facts channel.
Given the back story, the punisher fight scene is now my favorite
And this guy wants to play Herman Munster...
... Oh I hope Rob Zombie does cast him.
He didn't sadly but at least Rob didn't forget to cast his wife as Lily 😒
Funny thing about getting stabbed: It just feels like you're getting punched a bit harder than one normally could. It's cuts that have that sharp pain.
Ill take ur word for it
Mine was in the hand, didn't really feel anything and didn't notice until I saw all the blood.
@@riftvallance2087 when I was 17 I got a Marine corps K-Bar stuck in my shin playing chicken . The impact didn't hurt as much as the extraction.
@@stevenbaker8184 In the bone?
@@riftvallance2087 yep. The guy I was playing with threw it really hard. And it stuck into my right tibia. I still admire the scar to this day. Funny thing is that my father has a chicken scar in his left foot himself. His words when he saw what happened. ..
"Mmmmhmmm yeah hurts doesn't it?" Looking back, it really wasn't one of my more intelligent moments.
Guy actually gets stabbed and there's still some git going on about how "fake" it was.
I've met Kevin, he's just as imposing in real life.
But man he is a genuinely nice dude
@@incognitofool6516 indeed, I had the joy of vending a show and my table was next to his. Spent the weekend chit chatting about his work in film, almost being sabertooth in Xmen etc.
@@incognitofool6516 Big guys are almost always nice dudes. If you're that big the only things you have to worry about are finding clothes that fit you and the grocery bill. Everything else is easy.
The story about a wrestler getting his hand caught in a car door of a taxi was Ray Washington Traylor Jr, better known as the Big Boss Man, but he was working with WCW as Big Bubba Rogers when the car door thing happened.
So basically, everything we see in that scene actually happened.
This was the first article of yours I ever read and am so glad it’s being made into a video
That’s pretty cool but it doesn’t really surprise me, when a lot of people get stabbed they don’t even feel it because of the adrenaline, although that’s during fights but high intensity moments like filming an intense fight scene would cause your adrenaline to pump.
I feel like it'd depend on where you're stabbed
I also feel like a gash would hurt more than a stab (like a papercut vs poking yourself with a pin). I'm sure once the shock wears off, it'd hurt either way
I wouldn't know though.
Superglue has been in my first aid kits for years. The cheap 4 packs work awesome because they are effectively 1 time use.
They should check out Sabu. He had his entire bicep cut down to the bone with barbwire and taped it up and finished the match 10 mins later.
Just want to say, as it is a bit of a pet peeve of mine. A Switchblade is not the same as a Butterfly knife/Balisong.
A Switchblade uses a switch to reveal the blade, a Butterfly knife/Balisong uses gravity and motion to open up and reveal the blade.
This pet peeve caused by someone misnaming something as something else?
@@Masterprocrastinator223 Only when they misname something as something that is vastly different in it's appearance and function.
Few fight scenes hold a candle to the one in the punisher. The bath house fight in "eastern promises" is on par.
Amazing video mate. I think it kind of shows that Nash missed a trick in his career by not going full time into movies. He's better in the Punisher than his whole wrestling career...
All this said very surprised you didn't mention this guy was also Super Shredder. 😇
Also, yes. Civil War fight was awesome.
6 out of 10? How dare you. The majority of that film is pure gold. Just because the connecting tissue of the plot was largely mediocre doesn't mean anything when the action served up (and this is an action film, mind you) is so perfect.
I always thought Thomas Jane's Punisher made for a great origin story, but I couldn't see his version being a long term character choice. Ray Stevenson made a great long term character choice, but would have sucked as an origin character. For where each character was within the Punisher's life-arc, each did an amazing job!
5:56 Shame on you for not mentioning Jaws from James Bond smh. That guy had literally everything happen to him and just casually walks away from it
I thought that punisher was pretty cool! Love the scene with the ice pop and the guy thinks it's a blowtorch
i would like for them to bring back both of them as their characters and have a whole 45 minute family guy chicken fight in the MCU