Hi Matti, what´s up did you tried in FCPX when you start a new project and you wanna use a new file on a empty timeline, press Q and then you have less headaches with the magnet.
You will love Davinci - I felt confident in less than two days after switching from premiere. Just less glitching and I sped up my editing 15-20% for that reason alone.
Adobe needs to get rid of a lot of things. Ever try uninstalling anything from Adobe from Windows or MacOS? It's crazy how much crap Adobe manages to inject and doesn't automatically uninstall when you're ready to get rid of it.
As a tip, your FCP libraries shouldn't ballon for you if you leave the files where they are and turn off auto render. Mine are kept super small. - For me personally, time is precious and the most valuable asset. Nothing beats the speed and efficiency in FCP. - Last pricing, I paid for FCPX 11 years ago at the ONE TIME price of $299. If I was paying for ONLY Premiere Pro yearly plan, I would have spent $2,640. (As most people pay for the entire CC, that would be over $6,600. 🤣) To each his own, but I am so happy with my FCP.
I've been using FCP for years. I never thought Premiere Pro would be a seamless workflow so I never left FCP. Been telling people for years that Premiere is just not worth the headache it can/will cause while using it on a Mac. As I watch & listen to so many RUclipsrs complaining about the bugs in Premiere and switching to FCP, I'm glad I was right all along. Most can easily find a hack and work around that magnetic timeline. FCP = headache free. It just works - period! I want things that just work with zero concerns.
Used Premier from 2016 to mid-2020 and then switched to Final Cut. I really love Final Cut for all the reasons you mention. Like you, there is a lot that I miss about Premiere. I feel like it's much easier to organize bigger projects, mainly if you shoot on multiple cameras and on different days. I also agree that I like editing in a Premiere timeline better. So I decided to go back to Premiere this week and see if it was any better. I am halfway into a project, and I now wish I wouldn't have done this. Premiere Pro is slowing down so bad that my audio is out of sync with the video when I play the timeline. I am trying to color-correct some shots, and getting the sliders to move is ridiculously slow. If Premiere worked correctly, I would use it hands down, but I am sticking to Final Cut. For those trying to make a decision, it comes down to this, do you want to spend your time creating or troubleshooting? Jason
I switched to Final Cut becuse of the sub model Adobe uses. I bought FCP, Logic Pro and Affinity photo for around $600. That is just one year with Adobe and I get free updates with these products. I switched 5 years ago. So that $600 is now $3,000. Also now in my M2 Pro Mac is is fast as heck. I am glad I switched not only for better proformace but for my wallet.
thank you for the helpful reply, I'm a new high school graduate and I'm trying to figure out which I wanted to invest in. I've used premier for majority of my time in school for projects but Final Cut sounds promising and your comment sold me on it!!!
I've been using Premiere Pro on a Mac Mini M2 Pro since August 2023 and have had zero problems. The AI transcription is a huge help as I mainly shoot interviews.
There’s a workaround the magnetic timeline, a lot of people will lay down a title effect or just a black image on the main timeline, and then edit the footage above that. Which ends up making the editing process more similar to premiere.
4:33 Final Cut DOES have an option for turning off the magnetic timeline (or at least to bypass it). Turn on the position tool (p), command A to select all clips, and click and drag your clips up above the magnetic timeline. Or more simply, select all clips (command A), right-click and "lift from storyline" (there's also a shortcut for that too).... You can also assign video roles, and audio roles, and enable lanes to make them on different "tracks"... Not exactly the same as premiere but it gets the job done for me when I need it, and it's more reliable than Premiere.
Also you should chat with Tyler Stalman. He has a great tip for keeping library sizes small in FCP. Change the cache location to your folder that the library is saved in, and delete the cache file whenever you want, and it won't affect anything to my knowledge, but it'll save massive amounts of space.
You can also completely avoid the magnetic timeline by using Insert Generator, and inserting a Gap, and resizing it to your entire timeline. A bit kludgy but it allows you to completely ignore the magnetic timeline, and have all your clips / effects / etc above, and all your sounds below. Works great!
I almost lost an entire project this morning after Premiere suddenly decided it would not save, render or export. Luckily I was able to copy everything from the timeline into a new project and save from there. This isn’t the first time Premiere has given me that heart-drop moment either 😅. Considering how long it’s been around, you’d think Adobe would work out the bugs rather than making them worse!
Just happen this with my last project I was almost done like 98% and open it next day and it was just....I was dead from inside and start searching how to copy the file to another project thankfully I find it
So another great feature with Final Cut is it auto saves. I’ve been in spots where the program will crash but I never have to worry about losing my progress because final cut is constantly saving:) I’ll open the project exactly from where I left off during the crash and it’s all there
No one ever mentions Motion 5 in these videos, which is always a bummer to me. Granted it doesn’t have as complex of tool as After Effects (Expressions for example), but most of the animated graphics I saw in this video can be made in M5. It links with FCP, is as stable as FCP, uses collapsible/expandable folders instead of precomping (probably the best feature) and it’s $50 forever. I love AE and I’m not saying M5 should replace it. I’m just pointing out that Final Cut has more power than what people usually mention.
@@celestethoms a cool new feature in Pixelmator is saving out files as Motion files. Marc Spencer has a whole tutorial on it at Ripple Training w/ some sample tutorials on YT.
As a total noob at motion graphics, the biggest gripe I have with Motion 5 is not even with the program itself, but rather, the lack of tutorials and learning resources online for it. With After Effects, there are so many tutorials online to teach you almost any VFX you have in mind. With Motion 5, however, there are so few. For example, I couldn't even find a tutorial video on how to make audio visualizers in Motion that isn't several years old. Do you know any good sources (website/RUclips channel) for learning Motion 5? Dylan Bates' channel has some really good videos on Motion (thank you Dylan!), but at least as of today, his video catalog on Motion is not nearly as extensive as I would like as a beginner.
I’ve used all three of the majors.. days on final cut, years in premiere, and a year or so in Davinci.. really cut my teeth learning editing in premiere but ultimately all of the glitchiness left me frustrated and I downloaded davinci and have never looked back. Everything is well organized, glitches are gone, all the tools are there, fusion is powerful if you need 3D, the only reasonable thing I can think of that would keep a person is premiere is audition (but how many people really need/use that) Davinci has plenty of sound tools that are powerful enough for most everything. Moral of the story: Davinci is the clear cut winner for me, premiere and final cut would both be behind that.. since switching to davinci I’ve cut 15-20% off my editing time because there are no glitches and/or lag For reference: I am editing on 24” iMac
Totally agree, I'm a Davinci convert. Having editing, effects, grading and audio editing organised in tabs within the same application is super convenient.
@@workandfamily I can’t even think of an argument that would hold weight to fight for premiere or final cut. As it sits today Davinci takes 1st place and the others are a ways behind
@@TimConnor13 there’s only two gripes I have with Resolve - Fusion is super heavy on the processor, I’m having to upgrade my laptop as it takes hours to process chroma using a Delta Keyer composition (the best way to do chroma in Resolve). The other is I find the noise reduction tool in Fairlight could be better, I get clearer results faster using Audacity. Other than that, I’m really happy with Resolve, it’s well organised and helps me produce better work.
There are 3 main CHALLENGES: 1) all software has some glitches, it is inevitable 2) video editing software companies do not target a lot of "avatar", pretty much complete basic beginner and a pro, however lots of people are in-between, e.g. they cannot afford the full price because not monetizing their editing yet or ever, and they need some features but not so many (as it is a steep learning curve and for a smaller screen harder to edit with the interface is cluttered with functions). What is more reasonable to do imo is to offer an affordable price + add-ons for extra price. or 3-4 different versions of software. 3) challenge 3 is it is not only about specs, features, price (all definitely important), yet also PC vs MAC, because for example I use some astrology software for work which does not work as smoothly (or do not exist) for MAC, so either one has to buy a mac + fcp for video editing and a PC for some other apps, or ... ?? I've used HitFilm Express for a few years, basic features, simple color correction. Then could not even use it on a new laptop, it kept crushing. and the new one is not praised and became pricey. Add to that if you have to travel for a few months somewhere or people who are digital nomads and cannot have a lot of stuff, voila. 4) There is also the 4th problem, when you do not prolong a subscription of the version of editing software you use is obsolete, it is hard to go back and re-purpose / remake or finish a shelved project. which makes the essential need to become a psychic to be able to predict what will happen to software and your projects if... :)
I've always wanted to try Final Cut, especially just for RUclips edits. BUT as I also work as an editor for a company with several others that use Premiere Pro, I've just been sticking to it for years now.
First Point: for Final Cut organisation highly advise using "Final Cut Library Manager" from "Arctic Whiteness" to manage all Library data across multiple drives. I just started with Final Cut on my Mac Studio and I would choose Final Cut over Premiere any time. After all it is an Apple product that works seemlessly bugfree and most efficient. It just feels futuristic compared to the old buggy adobe. Another big plus for me is that it always remembers everything, you can just close it and if you open it again it is exactly there again in 3 seconds without welcome-message or whatever, no loading bugs anymore, no praying that the projecfile will hopefully load fine, it just works amazingly well. By the way, has someone experience with Apple Motion? Is it worth trying out? I heard it is Apples version of After Effects but I'm not so sure bout that.
Great video Matti! Blows my mind too how little Adobe focuses on fixing stability. It's been filled with bugs for YEARS, while being the most expensive by far, and there's literally tens of thousands of threads/comments online complaining about it, so it's not like they aren't aware.
FCPX has a mode for free clip movement! -> press ^ (upper left key) while moving your clip. It works like magic :D Additionally: Go in to Position Mode by pressing P and disabled Magnet Mode by pressing N! (^ while doing it / P and N beforehand) And to go back to „Normal Mode“ press A and activate the magnet with N again. You’re welcome 😉
You recommend Final Cut Pro, but factor in if you are a PC or Mac user. If you are a PC user then Premiere and Resolve. To get into Final Cut Pro you will need to buy a Mac.
For me this comparison is just perfect because I am thinking of wether to buy a Mac or a PC next and that also depends on which programs I want to use in future.
I recently bought my first Mac. Had an Adobe all apps subscription. Dropped everything but Premiere Pro, because of Adobe's new license agreement. Just downloaded the FCP trial, a couple of days ago. Did a simple project, and liked it. I'll be dumping Premiere Pro, too. Using DxO PhotoLab for Lightroom, and Affinity Photo 2 for Photoshop. Miss Adobe's AI tools, don't miss Adobe's arrogance.
Remember when Apple shut down Final Cut Pro for a while and rebuilt Final Cut Pro? Now we know why. I won't be surprised to see Adobe do something like this for PP. Although integration issues with other applications is probably a concern?
Hey Matti, the solution to disabling the magnetic timeline is to put the audio track in the project first. Somehow that disables the magnetic timeline for me. Even if I don´t want music in my video I just mute it afterwards with "V". Hope that helps :)
As a film teacher at the high school level, several of my students have had issues with their edits using Premier. It is sooooo frustrating specially in a 50 minute classroom setting, restart your project three times in a period, ugh; I thought the issues would be resolved with the new M1 chip, but I've been disappointed. The license for a section of 109 students is so expensive that I can purchase another camera(s) plus lens. Keep in mind; that I have to purchase creative cloud, NO option for Pr or Ae only. With the purchase of FCPX Studio for $199, I purchased the license for 35 computers, and done! No more monthly expenses.
As a HS graphic design and video teacher, I feel your pain. I have IT install resolve on the computers along side of AP. My problem is that the BOE (Ohio) has decided that credentials need to be part of my curriculum. The only credentials accepted are Adobe. I was on the standards writing committee a few years ago and ironic thing is that they wouldn’t let us use any commercially specific language in the standards (IE we couldn’t say premiere, we had to say something like “edit videos on a timeline”. But all of the state program tests and credentials used are ONLY based on specific commercial products. I have used fcp, avid, AP, resolve, and too many others to count for over 25 years and premiere has sucked since since 1996.
Matty, so glad to hear that you’re back on Team FCP! Now if you would just re-create all the amazing graphics packages you made for Premiere so that Final Cut users could enjoy them, that would be heaven! Even if you ultimately wind up staying with Premier, for legacy reasons, I hope that you have had a taste of the FCP community and realize that we deserve some of that Matti Haapoja motion graphics love as well. Moving forward, if you would create all your products for Premiere AND FCP, I think that would mean a lot to your users. Just a thought, hope you agree! Would love to have your graphics in my FCP arsenal.
The fact that it took me 2 months to work on my latest RUclips video is annoying. And now the fact that its taking me 2 weeks to work on a 6 minute video for a corporate interview is even more annoying. Im doing all of this on my m1 MacBook and it shouldn't crash or freeze as much as it should. It truly pisses me off and so I handed my same video over to a friend of mine that works at a studio and uses final cut for professional work and he did it in less than 2 days. And the export was so fast! Tired of this BS in premiere. And its a love hate relationship because I don't want to let it go. Lightroom is the same for me. Other programs are fast but Lightroom is slow. ADOBE IS RUINING MY CAREER
I've started venturing into Davinci Resolve since 2 months and it's a great piece of software, although the UI customisation is a little bit limited in some aspects (can't move panels around). Also a big downside is the lack of ProRes RAW support. Having an Atomos Ninja V this is a big let down. But the options and features are top notch. The colour science is simply finesse! I'm no colourist by any means but I've experimented with the Wide Gamut colour science from Blackmagic, following various guide and tutorials by well established Resolve pro users, and it's on another level, literally. It's a little bit different workflow but I was literally amazed by the results and how granular it is. And also compositing, tracking... all integrated. You can even remove wires from the shot (there's literally a dedicated button) and it's kinda a 3 click process! Some limitations in the free version (yep, it's free) but no deal breaking, as the most advanced ones is for professional. And with 299$ you can keep it forever, future updates included. One time investment! If only that ProRes RAW support... dammit!
I've been using Resolve for a couple years now and still haven't payed for the pro version. I can't believe how great the free version is. Eventually I will invest in Pro.
I started with Premiere Pro as well but due to its lack of stability and very slow export times keeping in mind I have a 12 Core Desktop PC was getting on my nerve then I tried Davinci Resolve non-studio version which was very smooth as compared to premiere and it's free but for creators, I would definitely recommend the paid version which is Davinci Resolve Studio and it unlocks GPU acceleration and the AI-based Neural Engine you'll definitely will be surprised by how accurate the masking tools are and even though color grading in node-based in my experience it's not really that complicated. I have been using the Davinci Resolve Studio version for about 1.5 years and I have never looked back to Premiere Pro and the paid version of Resolve comes free with blackmagic cameras or you can buy it for $300 one time payment
Start using Davinci Matti. You won’t regret it. I have more than 2 years using it and even deleted premiere. If I hava a complex effect, I usually switch to After effects and export the clip on ACES and that’s it.
I figured out a trick in final cut x where if you lay your audio track down first, then add the clips on top of that then the magnetic timeline goes away. As a wedding film maker, magnetic timelines drove me crazy but I figured this out and it’s been amazing ever since! Also turn off auto rendering and your project files and libraries won’t balloon up. That was driving me crazy as well. Hope this helps! Great video!
You should definitely try Davinci resolve. It's hard to believe how a program packed with a lot of great features in editing, motion graphics, colour grading and sound design comes mostly free. Ive never had an issue running Davinci and what ive recently started doing was doing all of my basic edits like cutting and stitching in final cut, then transfer the timeline to davinci for all the special effects and colour grading, and then if needed i’ll transfer the whole project back to final cut to polish up some clips. But everything can be done in Davinci, bug free
Hey Matti. I would give Davinci the chance. It took me some time to get use to it but I am loving it. Using the Cut page is what took some time for me to wrap my head around but since making the switch, i am loving it. I would recommend giving it a try. Also, color grading S-Log 3 footage is so easy using their Color Space Transform!!
really AGREE!!! I used Premiere Pro when I started editing - and still have CS6 version. I never dived into Adobe CC subscriptions. DaVinci - powerful and FREE!
Their is a way to bypass the magnetic timeline, so if you highlight any clip and click the first tab to the right of "Index" it will fill the magnetic timeline with a grey box that's the same size as the chosen clip on top which gives you the ability to arrange your clips how you want. Pro Tip: if you edit music videos in FPCX, if you add audio by the method which i just explained the audio will be under the timeline, highlight the grey space that fills the magnetic timeline hold command and press the "B" Key every down beat kind of like how a tap tempo button would work. It makes it so much easier edit to music. Now if you lip sync all your clips on top of one another on the timeline, you can highlight and all the clips and cut them to the beat and arrange how you like for the fastest work flow for music videos.. Hope this helps some one.
You should definitely Davinci Resolve.. They combine both worlds in therms of Timeline with way better Color Grading and Audio Workflow - also even the Betas are nearly free of bugs.. great video btw!
I’ve been using FCP since I started making videos. Never tried the other because I figured it’s native to OSX. I hope you will switch because I was disappointed your recent Scando pack wasn’t available and it would be nice if one of the RUclipsrs I watch was making packs for FCP.
The workaround i've used in the past for the magnetic timeline in FCPX is just dropping a black bar and making the whole length of the video and just editing on top of it.
I stuck with Premier for so long. Finally I tried DaVinci Resolve and I’m never going back. It took maybe two days to feel like I knew what I was doing.
I’m both a final cut and premiere editor for different projects. Final cut works great for quick edits and premiere works great for more in-depth projects
@@fcguarda Well then maybe you can *_answer the question_* and not just agree? Tell me… what "in-depth" thing are you not able to do with FC that you can with PPro?
Matti, not sure if you read this comment, but please use "position" in FCPX if you dont want to have those videos magnetic. please edit on top of the "grey" timeline" it will make editing easier.. We always telling you to select "p" or "position" tool. Oh man...
I switched from Premiere to Davinci and I am loving it, even upgraded to Studio + Speed Editor, you should try it too. By the way, I purchase your set of LUTs and loving it too!
Made the Note Squad! I am currently on Davinci resolve studio for a lot of the same reasons, and I will say this, it is a lot like Final Cut Pro but without the magnetic timeline. I don’t think your quest will be finished without trying it! The only downside is the node based graphics in fusion, I think they can do all the same stuff but it’s so much clunkier coming from a layer based system. Personally I avoid Premiere specifically for the editing, there are too many things that should be an easy process that require switching panes or whatever. Thanks for the video!
Also side note; I spent 2 years using HitFilm Pro and I can summarize that experience this way: the overall capabilities and community are amazing, but everything about normal editing (non VFX) slows you down. I think the VFX editing is more accessible than Ae but the lack of titles, slideshow templates and market for such make it difficult to do lots of work fast. I loved HitFilm for how it felt but I didn’t realize until I switched that it literally cost me hours and hours over those 2 years.
I started with Premiere Pro as well but due to its lack of stability and very slow export times keeping in mind I have a 12 Core Desktop PC was getting on my nerve then I tried Davinci Resolve non-studio version which was very smooth as compared to premiere and it's free but for creators, I would definitely recommend the paid version which is Davinci Resolve Studio and it unlocks GPU acceleration and the AI-based Neural Engine you'll definitely will be surprised by how accurate the masking tools are and even though color grading in node-based in my experience it's not really that complicated. I have been using the Davinci Resolve Studio version for about 1.5 years and I have never looked back to Premiere Pro and the paid version of Resolve comes free with blackmagic cameras or you can buy it for $300 one time payment
hi!! i hope u read this... the solution for magnetic time line is... that fist u put on the time line a Separation.. go to edition>> insert generation>> Separation or simple press option W.. so all the stufff in magnetic to that objet and u can move free
Hey matti, if you want to "turn off" the magnetic timeline you tap option + G which will lift your video from the storyline. From their your clips arent connected to the magnetic timeline and you can build up from their. Also the best way to import media into Final Cut Pro is to choose file -> import and click the option "leave files in place" this will keep all the media in the original location. The last tip I have for final cut is to make sure you keep all your files outside of final cut organized. When i import my media I always have an external file structure and i click the option "create events from folders" this lets me essentially auto generate final cuts version of bins and keep all my media organized. A bonus tip is if you want to keep things on the magnetic timeline but youre trying to move a clip and the clip above it moves with it, the short cut is the tilda key and this will allow you to change where the clip is connected. Also P on the keyboard switches your cursor so you can move clips and overwrite others rather than the clips snapping to the magnetic timeline. I love your videos keep it up!
Watching this video just realizing I watched your video about a year ago on the DJI Pocket 2 and I love that camera. I gave that subscribe since the universe brought me back. Glad you’re still making content.
Matti, DaVinci Resolve is next level for color grading.. I grade in DaVinci (due to Filming in BRAW) and edit in FCPX. The colors look different on export from Premeire because of the Rec 709 color space differences for Apple displays. On PC, it probably looks fine. DaVinci has a Rec 709-A color space to rectify this.
How do you go anout doing this? I’ve wanted to do this but been scared of quality drop or file size from editing the clips in davinci and then going into final cut to edit.
@@miguelzagada4554 I film in in 6k BRAW on 6k pro, then do my color grading and initial re framing for all clips in Resolve. When I Export from Resolve, I usually export each individual clip in 4K 422HQ files in to a project media folder on drive and import into final cut. When I import video to final cut, I don’t copy media to library. I select “leave files in place”. I usually edit on 1080p timeline so I’ll have more room form re framing if needed. If the video is going to RUclips, I’ll export my 1080p timeline as a 4K video with a higher bitrate via compressor so RUclips doesn’t compress it as much.
Premiere and Final Cut were created by the SAME GUY: Randy Ubillos. Not that he's infallible, but to him, Premiere and FCP7 were his previous-generation apps and FCPX+ is his NextGen app. Some of the problems you're having are because you're trying to use FC like PP. Because Apple royally screwed up the FCP7->X transition 11 years ago, some people reject the FCP UX entirely. But having used them all, FCP is way faster, more intuitive, infinitely more stable, and now optimized for Apple MX machines with rendering acceleration on the CPU. And 90-95% of what most people do in AE (awesome app, but slooooow) can be done in Motion.
Outside of missing out on AE, I think there is also something to be said about using the "Junior" program for those learning editing in Imovie first. Imovie is free, and is basically a "Lite" version of FCP. I used Imovie for years before I took a leap to FCP, and was wayyy more comfortable doing it. (Although it's still to this day daunting, and I still have EVERYTHING to learn). FCP harkens back to the days of Apple's slogan "It just works", because it does. The symmetry between hardware and software written to maximize performance on said hardware cannot be overstated. I have only ever used the Apple editing products, and I dont see the need to go anywhere else.
You can turn off final cuts magnetic timeline by adding a blank space in the timeline and editing on top of that which I use all the time for client projects that I need to use my final cut plug ins for
I ve been working on fcpx for years ( and fcp7 before that) and i never bothered using the magnetic timeline, i tend to make multitracks edits and I dont want everything to be stuck together so i simply generate a timeline (that grey bar) bellow my media and its amazing everything is fast when u know and customize the shortcuts
Matti, have you tried Apple Motion yet? I would be curious to see you try to create your titles and graphics in that and then tell us what you think of it in comparison to after effects
That color problem after exporting could just be a color profile issue. I'm using Davinci on Mac and when I edit on a Rec.709 timeline and then export Rec.709, the export file looks horrible on my Mac. Once it's uploaded to YT it looks fine again. But the thing is, there's a Rec.709 profile specifically for Mac users called Rec.709-A. Since I started using that profile, no issues at all anymore. Export looks great in all Mac apps and also on YT. Pretty much exactly the same as in DaVinci Resolve. So, that could be the problem... 🤷🏻♂😎
I've used Final Cut, Premier and Resolve, and it's Resolve for me. I don't do a lot of motion graphics (it's not the best at that), the NLE format is familiar, and the colour grading is top of the class. I also really like that the editing, effects, grading and audio editing are all arranged in tabs within the same program. It's a great workflow and the render quality is fantastic.
@@Adam.Robert is that right? I’m currently using an old MacBook Pro and whenever I make a Fusion composition, the fans kick and and is slows to a crawl (upgrading to an M1 soon). When it comes to motion graphics, how does Resolve stack up against AE?
Matti, in FCPX theirs a feature called "lift from storyline" with that you get a gray clip underneath allowing you to edit normally without the magnets. Try it :)
@@raphjiya yes, I understand your point. If the problem is magnetic timeline, just lift everything up I like to use both. I lift some parts up to make some edits but i also like to keep the magnetic, for me it’s very useful.
Definitely agree with Matti on this. Great analysis and advice. If you have the time to learn, using multiple software is the way to go. Mixing up the edit in different programs can work wonders for creativity! 👍
I love that there are a decent amount of former premiere pro & Final Cut users in the comments that have made the jump to DaVinci Resolve and see that it’s the best of the 3. Fully in agreement with that, just wish I would’ve realized it soon. They’re all good, but the UI, color grading & workflow are unmatched
If it was as simple as just FCP vs Premiere sure I’d switch to FCP. However there currently isn’t a simple replacement for After Effects, Illustrator, Photoshop, Lightroom which I use on a consistent basis. It would be interesting if you did this comparison from a business perspective that does both photography and videography since so many companies want someone who does both.
4:34 Funny you say that, there are different views that you can set up for your timeline in FCP. If you click the clip appearance icon (next to the snap icon where you can switch on and off the magnetic timeline), you can change the size of your clips, whether you want the image to show in your timeline or not, the height of each clip, and what you want to show on each clip on your timeline. It’s really useful for more complex edits!
I honestly wasn’t expecting the end result you arrived at. I can’t disagree with anything you’ve said. I’m a Final Cut user and have never looked back. Most of my projects are pretty simple so the magnetic timeline doesn’t bother me at all. It’s the lack of reliability that scares me from ever giving Premiere a shot. Plus, the speed of FC is super important to my workflow. 👍
Adobe have a QT Gamma Compensation.cube they released in 2020 to fix colour issues to do with gamma - This happens because Apple computers no longer use standard gamma settings, or standard colours anymore, so most colour issues are quicktime gamma issues
My best tip: RTFM😇 By way of analogy, if you approach an electric car like it's a petrol car, it may be disappointing. There's no gear shift. There's no clear way to rev the engine at the lights. The clutch is missing! FCP was designed to be completely different to Premiere, Resolve, and Avid. Using it like it wasn't - trying to make it work like traditional NLEs - is bananas. Process: 1. Keyword in clips pane 2. View, cut out crap, and mark Favourites for visuals in clips pane. 3. Edit A Roll on timeline. 4. Edit and organise on the timeline: you have a primary magnetic timeline, an unlimited number of magnetic Storylines that connect to the primary, or just connect individual clips. The primary timeline is like the spine you can connect clips or other timelines to, and you bump different elements into and out of the Primary timeline depending on the stage of the edit you are at. If you edit the A Roll and just leave it in the primary timeline, you are wasting a key resource: bump it down - it will magically turn into a connected Storyline - and connect it to a 1 second slug at the start of the timeline to ensure it never moves. When you get to the sound mix stage, you will also have to learn something new you would never intuit. Learning is slow, but FCP is fast as it was designed from the ground up (like a Tesla as compared to a hybrid - 'How can I switch of the electric bit and just have petrol?') Final crazy challenge: 1 timeline. If you have one timeline - with unlimited temporal snapshots you can revert to at any point - you can use Smart Playlists or whatever they're called to automatically create a collection of Unused Favourites + whatever metadata you want to define. It's a huge time saver. So there's another divergence: in FCP you organise using live updating playlists based on metadata. It's the same thing you might use to create a music playlist based on rules and ratings. Far superior to manually dragging clips into bins. Plus clips can be in 2 'bins' at the same time! People should only use FCP if they are total beginners with an overview of the process. Or people who choose to spend time learning 'better' ways of working. The investment is worth it, but it's not for everyone. If you use are switching between NLE's constantly you might want to avoid FCP as the process is totally different. I bet it's terrible if used as a traditional NLE.
Totally agree. I’m staying with Final Cut. Will also use Devinci here and there. Don’t want to get sucked into the Adobe rental universe. I use Premiere at work. Not intuitive, slow. Not fun. At home I use Final Cut. For photography work I use DxO PhotoLab. Love both programs.
I've been using Final Cut for several years now, however, after seeing so many editors using Premier I keep thinking that I need to switch. Really glad to have seen this video because it's the first time I've actually seen that I might be better off sticking with Final Cut Pro.
Problem is cost effectiveness. Final Cut is £249.99 Premiere is £30 per month. Reason for cheapness, is easier access if apple happens to roll out a monthly service or subscription then I’d be happy to jump over. Most of my heavy work is in after effect so the dynamic link is the best thing to connect between premiere and AE, it’s a time saver. However, the glitches and bug are def most prominent in both pr and ae. I’ve wanting to try out motion part of Final Cut to see how it fares well in the visual effect side of things. I’d like to see your comparison between both motion and ae. And who comes out on top! Excellent comparisons in this video.
Coming from someone who's used Premiere Pro for years, and just recently switched, please Matti, give Davinci Resolve a chance. The program runs so much smoother, and editing will become exciting and fun again!! It's amazing what having a program that only cost $300 and doesn't crash all the time will do to your motivation to edit haha! Additionally the program takes away much of the need to have separate programs such as After Effects, or Audition, as basically all the same things can be done INSIDE Resolve!!
I'm new to all of this, but the moment Premier crashed I switched to FCPX. Not only that but I replaced photoshop with pixelmator Pro and Illustrator with Vectornator. Everything looks and feels like Apple and also works like expected. All I wanted is to quickly and easily produce educational videos for my students. Yes and Motion 5 is a winner.
4:40 „I wish you could turn off the magnetic timeline in Final Cut“ -> of course you can do that, you have much more options than in Premiere! Have a look at what you can do with the tilde key and the position tool! Most of the points you criticized about Final Cut are due to the fact, that you obviously haven’t worked a lot with it yet and don’t seem to know the possibilities in it. Don’t feel criticized, I just wanna spread some ❤️ for the underrated Final Cut Pro. Greetings from Austria!
I started on Premier about 6 years ago and like you was constantly fighting the crashes and bugs. I switched to Resolve when it was at version 14 and haven't looked back. It's good for quick edits (cut page), complex edits and VFX (which take some getting used to it you are coming from After Effects). Definitely give Resolve a go. It's also super optimized for M1 now.
Hey Matti. I don’t know if you knew this but if you press P or select the position tool. It bypasses the magnetic timeline so that you can build more complex sequences. So you CAN in fact disable the magnetic timeline. Hope this helps.
Matti I've been using Vegas pro since 2008, never had any bugs, it does have the magnetic time line , however you CAN switch it on and off..I know changing to a different program is a learning curve, but try the free month trial..
Holy schmokes! That was a well executed sponsor plug for Artgrid. I didn't feel the momentum change or realize it was a plug. Since we are a BYOD organization, we provide our students the use of both Premiere and FCPX. Overall, they tend to favor FCPX but Adobe still gets some love from the PC users. I can tell when someone is exporting a project in Premiere because their laptops sound like they're racing Elon to Mars.
“How the libraries balloon in Final Cut Pro…” Omg yes!! Finally someone shares my pain! I thought I’ve been going crazy and my projects were just too much for my hard drive!
I used premiere for about 2 years and then tried Davinci. The learning curve took a month or two. But after almost 2 years of using it, I can’t recommend it enough. You won’t miss Premiere one bit after editing/coloring/exporting in davinci (especially on an M1 Max machine 🔥).
Cant wait to hang out with you guys on Thursday 🙌🏻 😊 First come first serve and space is limited so be there early if you want a for sure spot 🙏🏻
Hi Matti, what´s up did you tried in FCPX when you start a new project and you wanna use a new file on a empty timeline, press Q and then you have less headaches with the magnet.
You will love Davinci - I felt confident in less than two days after switching from premiere. Just less glitching and I sped up my editing 15-20% for that reason alone.
I wish I lived in Canada.
I wish I could go but I live in Arizona in the United States which is literally the bottom USA.
Try lifting clips from the timeline and using a placeholder in the magnetic main sequence.
Adobe need to get rid of the subscription model, let people buy it out right
That’s exactly why I just wanna get final cut
It used to be that way, I whole heartily agree this is why I stopped working with Photoshop and Illustrator its a shame .
Adobe needs to get rid of a lot of things. Ever try uninstalling anything from Adobe from Windows or MacOS? It's crazy how much crap Adobe manages to inject and doesn't automatically uninstall when you're ready to get rid of it.
As a tip, your FCP libraries shouldn't ballon for you if you leave the files where they are and turn off auto render. Mine are kept super small. - For me personally, time is precious and the most valuable asset. Nothing beats the speed and efficiency in FCP. - Last pricing, I paid for FCPX 11 years ago at the ONE TIME price of $299. If I was paying for ONLY Premiere Pro yearly plan, I would have spent $2,640. (As most people pay for the entire CC, that would be over $6,600. 🤣) To each his own, but I am so happy with my FCP.
with that pricing guess which one has more users? because the premiere is way better
Even if you do that it’s still drop frame city. Final cuts is garbage.
@@YasinHasan yup
@@YasinHasan more user base doesn't mean that Premiere is better
exactly!
Final Cut Pro all day. Used it for the last 7 years!
Loyalty right there 😊
I've been using FCP for years. I never thought Premiere Pro would be a seamless workflow so I never left FCP. Been telling people for years that Premiere is just not worth the headache it can/will cause while using it on a Mac. As I watch & listen to so many RUclipsrs complaining about the bugs in Premiere and switching to FCP, I'm glad I was right all along. Most can easily find a hack and work around that magnetic timeline. FCP = headache free. It just works - period! I want things that just work with zero concerns.
Used Premier from 2016 to mid-2020 and then switched to Final Cut. I really love Final Cut for all the reasons you mention. Like you, there is a lot that I miss about Premiere. I feel like it's much easier to organize bigger projects, mainly if you shoot on multiple cameras and on different days. I also agree that I like editing in a Premiere timeline better. So I decided to go back to Premiere this week and see if it was any better. I am halfway into a project, and I now wish I wouldn't have done this. Premiere Pro is slowing down so bad that my audio is out of sync with the video when I play the timeline. I am trying to color-correct some shots, and getting the sliders to move is ridiculously slow. If Premiere worked correctly, I would use it hands down, but I am sticking to Final Cut. For those trying to make a decision, it comes down to this, do you want to spend your time creating or troubleshooting?
Jason
Th for saving me so much time!🤙
I switched to Final Cut becuse of the sub model Adobe uses. I bought FCP, Logic Pro and Affinity photo for around $600. That is just one year with Adobe and I get free updates with these products. I switched 5 years ago. So that $600 is now $3,000. Also now in my M2 Pro Mac is is fast as heck. I am glad I switched not only for better proformace but for my wallet.
I assume you used Premiere on a Mac, right? Adobe programs work better on PC and Apple programs on Apple, obviously.
thank you for the helpful reply, I'm a new high school graduate and I'm trying to figure out which I wanted to invest in. I've used premier for majority of my time in school for projects but Final Cut sounds promising and your comment sold me on it!!!
I've been using Premiere Pro on a Mac Mini M2 Pro since August 2023 and have had zero problems. The AI transcription is a huge help as I mainly shoot interviews.
There’s a workaround the magnetic timeline, a lot of people will lay down a title effect or just a black image on the main timeline, and then edit the footage above that. Which ends up making the editing process more similar to premiere.
Gonna try this. Thx!
4:33 Final Cut DOES have an option for turning off the magnetic timeline (or at least to bypass it). Turn on the position tool (p), command A to select all clips, and click and drag your clips up above the magnetic timeline. Or more simply, select all clips (command A), right-click and "lift from storyline" (there's also a shortcut for that too).... You can also assign video roles, and audio roles, and enable lanes to make them on different "tracks"... Not exactly the same as premiere but it gets the job done for me when I need it, and it's more reliable than Premiere.
Also you should chat with Tyler Stalman. He has a great tip for keeping library sizes small in FCP. Change the cache location to your folder that the library is saved in, and delete the cache file whenever you want, and it won't affect anything to my knowledge, but it'll save massive amounts of space.
You can also completely avoid the magnetic timeline by using Insert Generator, and inserting a Gap, and resizing it to your entire timeline. A bit kludgy but it allows you to completely ignore the magnetic timeline, and have all your clips / effects / etc above, and all your sounds below. Works great!
Im surprised Matti didn't know that 😂
I was about to comment the exact same thing! C'mon Matti! ;)
But the gap option is there guys
I almost lost an entire project this morning after Premiere suddenly decided it would not save, render or export. Luckily I was able to copy everything from the timeline into a new project and save from there. This isn’t the first time Premiere has given me that heart-drop moment either 😅. Considering how long it’s been around, you’d think Adobe would work out the bugs rather than making them worse!
Just happen this with my last project I was almost done like 98% and open it next day and it was just....I was dead from inside and start searching how to copy the file to another project thankfully I find it
So another great feature with Final Cut is it auto saves. I’ve been in spots where the program will crash but I never have to worry about losing my progress because final cut is constantly saving:) I’ll open the project exactly from where I left off during the crash and it’s all there
this happened to me last week. Gosh i was so angry with Pr my temper took a toll
Adobe also auto saves project you set up the time how often it saves. I program mine to save every 5 minutes.
No one ever mentions Motion 5 in these videos, which is always a bummer to me. Granted it doesn’t have as complex of tool as After Effects (Expressions for example), but most of the animated graphics I saw in this video can be made in M5. It links with FCP, is as stable as FCP, uses collapsible/expandable folders instead of precomping (probably the best feature) and it’s $50 forever.
I love AE and I’m not saying M5 should replace it. I’m just pointing out that Final Cut has more power than what people usually mention.
Preach!
Totally agree, Motion is VERY underrated
@@celestethoms a cool new feature in Pixelmator is saving out files as Motion files. Marc Spencer has a whole tutorial on it at Ripple Training w/ some sample tutorials on YT.
@@GrantMFletcher Hey Grant, will do!
As a total noob at motion graphics, the biggest gripe I have with Motion 5 is not even with the program itself, but rather, the lack of tutorials and learning resources online for it. With After Effects, there are so many tutorials online to teach you almost any VFX you have in mind. With Motion 5, however, there are so few. For example, I couldn't even find a tutorial video on how to make audio visualizers in Motion that isn't several years old.
Do you know any good sources (website/RUclips channel) for learning Motion 5? Dylan Bates' channel has some really good videos on Motion (thank you Dylan!), but at least as of today, his video catalog on Motion is not nearly as extensive as I would like as a beginner.
I’ve used all three of the majors.. days on final cut, years in premiere, and a year or so in Davinci.. really cut my teeth learning editing in premiere but ultimately all of the glitchiness left me frustrated and I downloaded davinci and have never looked back. Everything is well organized, glitches are gone, all the tools are there, fusion is powerful if you need 3D, the only reasonable thing I can think of that would keep a person is premiere is audition (but how many people really need/use that) Davinci has plenty of sound tools that are powerful enough for most everything.
Moral of the story: Davinci is the clear cut winner for me, premiere and final cut would both be behind that.. since switching to davinci I’ve cut 15-20% off my editing time because there are no glitches and/or lag
For reference: I am editing on 24” iMac
Totally agree, I'm a Davinci convert. Having editing, effects, grading and audio editing organised in tabs within the same application is super convenient.
I'm right there with you on Davinci.
I Agree!!!
@@workandfamily I can’t even think of an argument that would hold weight to fight for premiere or final cut. As it sits today Davinci takes 1st place and the others are a ways behind
@@TimConnor13 there’s only two gripes I have with Resolve - Fusion is super heavy on the processor, I’m having to upgrade my laptop as it takes hours to process chroma using a Delta Keyer composition (the best way to do chroma in Resolve). The other is I find the noise reduction tool in Fairlight could be better, I get clearer results faster using Audacity. Other than that, I’m really happy with Resolve, it’s well organised and helps me produce better work.
There are 3 main CHALLENGES:
1) all software has some glitches, it is inevitable
2) video editing software companies do not target a lot of "avatar", pretty much complete basic beginner and a pro, however lots of people are in-between, e.g. they cannot afford the full price because not monetizing their editing yet or ever, and they need some features but not so many (as it is a steep learning curve and for a smaller screen harder to edit with the interface is cluttered with functions). What is more reasonable to do imo is to offer an affordable price + add-ons for extra price. or 3-4 different versions of software.
3) challenge 3 is it is not only about specs, features, price (all definitely important), yet also PC vs MAC, because for example I use some astrology software for work which does not work as smoothly (or do not exist) for MAC, so either one has to buy a mac + fcp for video editing and a PC for some other apps, or ... ?? I've used HitFilm Express for a few years, basic features, simple color correction. Then could not even use it on a new laptop, it kept crushing. and the new one is not praised and became pricey. Add to that if you have to travel for a few months somewhere or people who are digital nomads and cannot have a lot of stuff, voila.
4) There is also the 4th problem, when you do not prolong a subscription of the version of editing software you use is obsolete, it is hard to go back and re-purpose / remake or finish a shelved project. which makes the essential need to become a psychic to be able to predict what will happen to software and your projects if... :)
Video starts at 1:25 🙂
I've always wanted to try Final Cut, especially just for RUclips edits.
BUT as I also work as an editor for a company with several others that use Premiere Pro, I've just been sticking to it for years now.
FCP FTW
A lot of people are in the same place
Compared to FCP, Premiere feels too antiquated. It has some functions I like but for editing it just feels too old and clunky.
First Point: for Final Cut organisation highly advise using "Final Cut Library Manager" from "Arctic Whiteness" to manage all Library data across multiple drives.
I just started with Final Cut on my Mac Studio and I would choose Final Cut over Premiere any time. After all it is an Apple product that works seemlessly bugfree and most efficient. It just feels futuristic compared to the old buggy adobe. Another big plus for me is that it always remembers everything, you can just close it and if you open it again it is exactly there again in 3 seconds without welcome-message or whatever, no loading bugs anymore, no praying that the projecfile will hopefully load fine, it just works amazingly well.
By the way, has someone experience with Apple Motion? Is it worth trying out? I heard it is Apples version of After Effects but I'm not so sure bout that.
Motion is definitely worth trying out. Completely different way of working from AE but if you can get used to it, it's pretty good.
Great video Matti! Blows my mind too how little Adobe focuses on fixing stability. It's been filled with bugs for YEARS, while being the most expensive by far, and there's literally tens of thousands of threads/comments online complaining about it, so it's not like they aren't aware.
FCPX has a mode for free clip movement! -> press ^ (upper left key) while moving your clip. It works like magic :D
Additionally: Go in to Position Mode by pressing P and disabled Magnet Mode by pressing N!
(^ while doing it / P and N beforehand)
And to go back to „Normal Mode“ press A and activate the magnet with N again. You’re welcome 😉
You recommend Final Cut Pro, but factor in if you are a PC or Mac user. If you are a PC user then Premiere and Resolve. To get into Final Cut Pro you will need to buy a Mac.
For me this comparison is just perfect because I am thinking of wether to buy a Mac or a PC next and that also depends on which programs I want to use in future.
I recently bought my first Mac. Had an Adobe all apps subscription. Dropped everything but Premiere Pro, because of Adobe's new license agreement. Just downloaded the FCP trial, a couple of days ago. Did a simple project, and liked it. I'll be dumping Premiere Pro, too. Using DxO PhotoLab for Lightroom, and Affinity Photo 2 for Photoshop. Miss Adobe's AI tools, don't miss Adobe's arrogance.
Remember when Apple shut down Final Cut Pro for a while and rebuilt Final Cut Pro? Now we know why. I won't be surprised to see Adobe do something like this for PP. Although integration issues with other applications is probably a concern?
Hey Matti, the solution to disabling the magnetic timeline is to put the audio track in the project first. Somehow that disables the magnetic timeline for me. Even if I don´t want music in my video I just mute it afterwards with "V". Hope that helps :)
Yup I do this too, also you can right click on a clip, lift from timeline. A grey bar is created you can stretch as long as you want!
As a film teacher at the high school level, several of my students have had issues with their edits using Premier. It is sooooo frustrating specially in a 50 minute classroom setting, restart your project three times in a period, ugh; I thought the issues would be resolved with the new M1 chip, but I've been disappointed. The license for a section of 109 students is so expensive that I can purchase another camera(s) plus lens. Keep in mind; that I have to purchase creative cloud, NO option for Pr or Ae only. With the purchase of FCPX Studio for $199, I purchased the license for 35 computers, and done! No more monthly expenses.
Could have installed resolve for free 😉
As a HS graphic design and video teacher, I feel your pain. I have IT install resolve on the computers along side of AP. My problem is that the BOE (Ohio) has decided that credentials need to be part of my curriculum. The only credentials accepted are Adobe. I was on the standards writing committee a few years ago and ironic thing is that they wouldn’t let us use any commercially specific language in the standards (IE we couldn’t say premiere, we had to say something like “edit videos on a timeline”. But all of the state program tests and credentials used are ONLY based on specific commercial products. I have used fcp, avid, AP, resolve, and too many others to count for over 25 years and premiere has sucked since since 1996.
Matty, so glad to hear that you’re back on Team FCP! Now if you would just re-create all the amazing graphics packages you made for Premiere so that Final Cut users could enjoy them, that would be heaven!
Even if you ultimately wind up staying with Premier, for legacy reasons, I hope that you have had a taste of the FCP community and realize that we deserve some of that Matti Haapoja motion graphics love as well. Moving forward, if you would create all your products for Premiere AND FCP, I think that would mean a lot to your users. Just a thought, hope you agree! Would love to have your graphics in my FCP arsenal.
wohoo, Final Cut all the way! 🤘😎
davinci ;D
The fact that it took me 2 months to work on my latest RUclips video is annoying. And now the fact that its taking me 2 weeks to work on a 6 minute video for a corporate interview is even more annoying. Im doing all of this on my m1 MacBook and it shouldn't crash or freeze as much as it should. It truly pisses me off and so I handed my same video over to a friend of mine that works at a studio and uses final cut for professional work and he did it in less than 2 days. And the export was so fast! Tired of this BS in premiere. And its a love hate relationship because I don't want to let it go. Lightroom is the same for me. Other programs are fast but Lightroom is slow. ADOBE IS RUINING MY CAREER
Adobe is like a semi functioning tool. I have a love-hate relationship so I can relate.
I've started venturing into Davinci Resolve since 2 months and it's a great piece of software, although the UI customisation is a little bit limited in some aspects (can't move panels around).
Also a big downside is the lack of ProRes RAW support. Having an Atomos Ninja V this is a big let down.
But the options and features are top notch.
The colour science is simply finesse!
I'm no colourist by any means but I've experimented with the Wide Gamut colour science from Blackmagic, following various guide and tutorials by well established Resolve pro users, and it's on another level, literally.
It's a little bit different workflow but I was literally amazed by the results and how granular it is.
And also compositing, tracking... all integrated.
You can even remove wires from the shot (there's literally a dedicated button) and it's kinda a 3 click process!
Some limitations in the free version (yep, it's free) but no deal breaking, as the most advanced ones is for professional.
And with 299$ you can keep it forever, future updates included.
One time investment!
If only that ProRes RAW support... dammit!
I've been using Resolve for a couple years now and still haven't payed for the pro version. I can't believe how great the free version is. Eventually I will invest in Pro.
I started with Premiere Pro as well but due to its lack of stability and very slow export times keeping in mind I have a 12 Core Desktop PC was getting on my nerve then I tried Davinci Resolve non-studio version which was very smooth as compared to premiere and it's free but for creators, I would definitely recommend the paid version which is Davinci Resolve Studio and it unlocks GPU acceleration and the AI-based Neural Engine you'll definitely will be surprised by how accurate the masking tools are and even though color grading in node-based in my experience it's not really that complicated. I have been using the Davinci Resolve Studio version for about 1.5 years and I have never looked back to Premiere Pro and the paid version of Resolve comes free with blackmagic cameras or you can buy it for $300 one time payment
UI is fixed for reasons, you'll adapt 😉, prores raw seems to be an issue mostly because of apple so *shruggs*
Start using Davinci Matti. You won’t regret it. I have more than 2 years using it and even deleted premiere. If I hava a complex effect, I usually switch to After effects and export the clip on ACES and that’s it.
30% of the video is just plugs of products and sponsors.
No it ain’t 💀
Plugins for premier and he ultimately says don’t get premier
I figured out a trick in final cut x where if you lay your audio track down first, then add the clips on top of that then the magnetic timeline goes away. As a wedding film maker, magnetic timelines drove me crazy but I figured this out and it’s been amazing ever since! Also turn off auto rendering and your project files and libraries won’t balloon up. That was driving me crazy as well. Hope this helps! Great video!
I switched from Premiere to DaVinci a year ago, and I'm really liking it, I think you should give it a shot.
You should definitely try Davinci resolve. It's hard to believe how a program packed with a lot of great features in editing, motion graphics, colour grading and sound design comes mostly free. Ive never had an issue running Davinci and what ive recently started doing was doing all of my basic edits like cutting and stitching in final cut, then transfer the timeline to davinci for all the special effects and colour grading, and then if needed i’ll transfer the whole project back to final cut to polish up some clips. But everything can be done in Davinci, bug free
Oh yeah???
Hey Matti. I would give Davinci the chance. It took me some time to get use to it but I am loving it. Using the Cut page is what took some time for me to wrap my head around but since making the switch, i am loving it. I would recommend giving it a try. Also, color grading S-Log 3 footage is so easy using their Color Space Transform!!
really AGREE!!! I used Premiere Pro when I started editing - and still have CS6 version. I never dived into Adobe CC subscriptions. DaVinci - powerful and FREE!
CST is the sh*t! 🔥🔥
yes i use it for nearly 2 years now and everyday i line it more and i have to say i find out more and more functions beeing usefull everyday
@@swmagoo it is like freakin' magic! It makes color grading so easy!!
@@insightswithterri6393 I just really miss the audition feature to extend music clips
Their is a way to bypass the magnetic timeline, so if you highlight any clip and click the first tab to the right of "Index" it will fill the magnetic timeline with a grey box that's the same size as the chosen clip on top which gives you the ability to arrange your clips how you want. Pro Tip: if you edit music videos in FPCX, if you add audio by the method which i just explained the audio will be under the timeline, highlight the grey space that fills the magnetic timeline hold command and press the "B" Key every down beat kind of like how a tap tempo button would work. It makes it so much easier edit to music. Now if you lip sync all your clips on top of one another on the timeline, you can highlight and all the clips and cut them to the beat and arrange how you like for the fastest work flow for music videos.. Hope this helps some one.
You should definitely Davinci Resolve.. They combine both worlds in therms of Timeline with way better Color Grading and Audio Workflow - also even the Betas are nearly free of bugs.. great video btw!
I’ve been using FCP since I started making videos. Never tried the other because I figured it’s native to OSX.
I hope you will switch because I was disappointed your recent Scando pack wasn’t available and it would be nice if one of the RUclipsrs I watch was making packs for FCP.
The workaround i've used in the past for the magnetic timeline in FCPX is just dropping a black bar and making the whole length of the video and just editing on top of it.
DaVinci Resolve cries...
Davinci Resolve is superior than the others imo
@@e.hassen agree, just wish they integrated foreign languages better for subtitles and texts
I stuck with Premier for so long. Finally I tried DaVinci Resolve and I’m never going back. It took maybe two days to feel like I knew what I was doing.
Seriously, give Davinci Resolve a try! This is coming from a long time Premiere user. I love Premiere when it works, but Resolve is winning my heart.
I’m both a final cut and premiere editor for different projects. Final cut works great for quick edits and premiere works great for more in-depth projects
What does that even *_mean_* ?? 😄 What exactly is an "in-depth project" supposed to be and how or why is Premiere somehow better at them??
Yes, I agree with this.
everything you do in premier can be done in fcp so why struggle just learn
@@fcguarda Well then maybe you can *_answer the question_* and not just agree? Tell me… what "in-depth" thing are you not able to do with FC that you can with PPro?
@@AhsanZafar Exactly. It's a completely *_nonsensical_* claim. More "in-depth" projects? What does that even *_mean_* ?? 😂
Matti, not sure if you read this comment, but please use "position" in FCPX if you dont want to have those videos magnetic. please edit on top of the "grey" timeline" it will make editing easier.. We always telling you to select "p" or "position" tool. Oh man...
It hurts me when you always mentioning this magnetic timeline when you compare Premiere pro and FCPX haha.. please read your comment.
I switched from Premiere to Davinci and I am loving it, even upgraded to Studio + Speed Editor, you should try it too. By the way, I purchase your set of LUTs and loving it too!
That's talent. 1 wheeling, holding a coffee, holding your camera, and talking to the camera!
Made the Note Squad! I am currently on Davinci resolve studio for a lot of the same reasons, and I will say this, it is a lot like Final Cut Pro but without the magnetic timeline. I don’t think your quest will be finished without trying it!
The only downside is the node based graphics in fusion, I think they can do all the same stuff but it’s so much clunkier coming from a layer based system.
Personally I avoid Premiere specifically for the editing, there are too many things that should be an easy process that require switching panes or whatever.
Thanks for the video!
Good insights 🙏🏻
Also side note; I spent 2 years using HitFilm Pro and I can summarize that experience this way: the overall capabilities and community are amazing, but everything about normal editing (non VFX) slows you down. I think the VFX editing is more accessible than Ae but the lack of titles, slideshow templates and market for such make it difficult to do lots of work fast. I loved HitFilm for how it felt but I didn’t realize until I switched that it literally cost me hours and hours over those 2 years.
I started with Premiere Pro as well but due to its lack of stability and very slow export times keeping in mind I have a 12 Core Desktop PC was getting on my nerve then I tried Davinci Resolve non-studio version which was very smooth as compared to premiere and it's free but for creators, I would definitely recommend the paid version which is Davinci Resolve Studio and it unlocks GPU acceleration and the AI-based Neural Engine you'll definitely will be surprised by how accurate the masking tools are and even though color grading in node-based in my experience it's not really that complicated. I have been using the Davinci Resolve Studio version for about 1.5 years and I have never looked back to Premiere Pro and the paid version of Resolve comes free with blackmagic cameras or you can buy it for $300 one time payment
hi!! i hope u read this... the solution for magnetic time line is... that fist u put on the time line a Separation.. go to edition>> insert generation>> Separation or simple press option W.. so all the stufff in magnetic to that objet and u can move free
Hey matti, if you want to "turn off" the magnetic timeline you tap option + G which will lift your video from the storyline. From their your clips arent connected to the magnetic timeline and you can build up from their. Also the best way to import media into Final Cut Pro is to choose file -> import and click the option "leave files in place" this will keep all the media in the original location. The last tip I have for final cut is to make sure you keep all your files outside of final cut organized. When i import my media I always have an external file structure and i click the option "create events from folders" this lets me essentially auto generate final cuts version of bins and keep all my media organized. A bonus tip is if you want to keep things on the magnetic timeline but youre trying to move a clip and the clip above it moves with it, the short cut is the tilda key and this will allow you to change where the clip is connected. Also P on the keyboard switches your cursor so you can move clips and overwrite others rather than the clips snapping to the magnetic timeline. I love your videos keep it up!
You can use the Position tool + Tilde key to create a gap clip and prevent it from the magnetic timeline.
Watching this video just realizing I watched your video about a year ago on the DJI Pocket 2 and I love that camera. I gave that subscribe since the universe brought me back. Glad you’re still making content.
Matti, DaVinci Resolve is next level for color grading.. I grade in DaVinci (due to Filming in BRAW) and edit in FCPX. The colors look different on export from Premeire because of the Rec 709 color space differences for Apple displays. On PC, it probably looks fine. DaVinci has a Rec 709-A color space to rectify this.
Prem exports slightly desaturated and less contrasty apparently for TV, it’s a simple fix with a gamma LUT at export
How do you go anout doing this? I’ve wanted to do this but been scared of quality drop or file size from editing the clips in davinci and then going into final cut to edit.
@@miguelzagada4554 I film in in 6k BRAW on 6k pro, then do my color grading and initial re framing for all clips in Resolve. When I Export from Resolve, I usually export each individual clip in 4K 422HQ files in to a project media folder on drive and import into final cut. When I import video to final cut, I don’t copy media to library. I select “leave files in place”. I usually edit on 1080p timeline so I’ll have more room form re framing if needed. If the video is going to RUclips, I’ll export my 1080p timeline as a 4K video with a higher bitrate via compressor so RUclips doesn’t compress it as much.
Have you tried editing in the latest version of Resolve? It has come a long way.
@@katlis I have. I love it. The gyro stabilization works great with the Bmpcc 6K Pro. Almost gimbal like if filmed just right.
Premiere and Final Cut were created by the SAME GUY: Randy Ubillos. Not that he's infallible, but to him, Premiere and FCP7 were his previous-generation apps and FCPX+ is his NextGen app. Some of the problems you're having are because you're trying to use FC like PP. Because Apple royally screwed up the FCP7->X transition 11 years ago, some people reject the FCP UX entirely. But having used them all, FCP is way faster, more intuitive, infinitely more stable, and now optimized for Apple MX machines with rendering acceleration on the CPU. And 90-95% of what most people do in AE (awesome app, but slooooow) can be done in Motion.
Outside of missing out on AE, I think there is also something to be said about using the "Junior" program for those learning editing in Imovie first. Imovie is free, and is basically a "Lite" version of FCP. I used Imovie for years before I took a leap to FCP, and was wayyy more comfortable doing it. (Although it's still to this day daunting, and I still have EVERYTHING to learn). FCP harkens back to the days of Apple's slogan "It just works", because it does. The symmetry between hardware and software written to maximize performance on said hardware cannot be overstated. I have only ever used the Apple editing products, and I dont see the need to go anywhere else.
SPOILERS: FCP wins.
Premiere has too many bugs, and considering they haven't fixed their issues in over 15 years, i dont think they will anytime soon.
You can turn off final cuts magnetic timeline by adding a blank space in the timeline and editing on top of that which I use all the time for client projects that I need to use my final cut plug ins for
This is actually kind of a game changing comment for me, thank you!
@@tomanders329 no problem at all! It changed everything for me too!
Matti, you should test Davinci. No more bugs and crashes.
I ve been working on fcpx for years ( and fcp7 before that) and i never bothered using the magnetic timeline, i tend to make multitracks edits and I dont want everything to be stuck together so i simply generate a timeline (that grey bar) bellow my media and its amazing everything is fast when u know and customize the shortcuts
Is Premier still as bad on Mac as he describes in the video? There's a lot AI features coming to it which makes it kinda attractive again, maybe…
Matti, have you tried Apple Motion yet? I would be curious to see you try to create your titles and graphics in that and then tell us what you think of it in comparison to after effects
That color problem after exporting could just be a color profile issue. I'm using Davinci on Mac and when I edit on a Rec.709 timeline and then export Rec.709, the export file looks horrible on my Mac. Once it's uploaded to YT it looks fine again. But the thing is, there's a Rec.709 profile specifically for Mac users called Rec.709-A. Since I started using that profile, no issues at all anymore. Export looks great in all Mac apps and also on YT. Pretty much exactly the same as in DaVinci Resolve. So, that could be the problem... 🤷🏻♂😎
I've used Final Cut, Premier and Resolve, and it's Resolve for me. I don't do a lot of motion graphics (it's not the best at that), the NLE format is familiar, and the colour grading is top of the class. I also really like that the editing, effects, grading and audio editing are all arranged in tabs within the same program. It's a great workflow and the render quality is fantastic.
But it is the best at that. It’s just not as easy to use as after effects or Motion.
@@Adam.Robert is that right? I’m currently using an old MacBook Pro and whenever I make a Fusion composition, the fans kick and and is slows to a crawl (upgrading to an M1 soon). When it comes to motion graphics, how does Resolve stack up against AE?
I think davinci is getting better at motion graphics too. I found some realy good one's and they are not hard to use.
@@Amar_-kf4lx do you know of any motion packages for Resolve?
You should definitely try out and do a review on Davinci Resolve. When you learn the program everything makes so much sense. And its 🆓!!!
Matti, in FCPX theirs a feature called "lift from storyline" with that you get a gray clip underneath allowing you to edit normally without the magnets. Try it :)
I use this all the time!
@@camcamwatt Same! I'm surprised he didn't know about this
you can also hold ~and drag. Magnetic Timeline is so useful if you know to use
@@bhrishaprem5051 true but I do a lot of music videos and it gets annoying so I’m just done with it lol Makes sense for quick edits though
@@raphjiya yes, I understand your point. If the problem is magnetic timeline, just lift everything up
I like to use both. I lift some parts up to make some edits but i also like to keep the magnetic, for me it’s very useful.
When's your next meetup? I just saw this now - would LOVE to go to the next one!
Definitely agree with Matti on this. Great analysis and advice. If you have the time to learn, using multiple software is the way to go. Mixing up the edit in different programs can work wonders for creativity! 👍
I love that there are a decent amount of former premiere pro & Final Cut users in the comments that have made the jump to DaVinci Resolve and see that it’s the best of the 3. Fully in agreement with that, just wish I would’ve realized it soon. They’re all good, but the UI, color grading & workflow are unmatched
If it was as simple as just FCP vs Premiere sure I’d switch to FCP. However there currently isn’t a simple replacement for After Effects, Illustrator, Photoshop, Lightroom which I use on a consistent basis. It would be interesting if you did this comparison from a business perspective that does both photography and videography since so many companies want someone who does both.
to me the replacement for after effects is motion
But just FYI you can import a photoshop project into fcp. So useful.
4:34 Funny you say that, there are different views that you can set up for your timeline in FCP. If you click the clip appearance icon (next to the snap icon where you can switch on and off the magnetic timeline), you can change the size of your clips, whether you want the image to show in your timeline or not, the height of each clip, and what you want to show on each clip on your timeline. It’s really useful for more complex edits!
Imo Resolve has the best included color grading software. I haven't missed FCP or Premiere since switching to Resolve.
If I come to the pop up....will Tyler be there? That's all I care about. 😘
I honestly wasn’t expecting the end result you arrived at. I can’t disagree with anything you’ve said. I’m a Final Cut user and have never looked back. Most of my projects are pretty simple so the magnetic timeline doesn’t bother me at all. It’s the lack of reliability that scares me from ever giving Premiere a shot. Plus, the speed of FC is super important to my workflow. 👍
Adobe have a QT Gamma Compensation.cube they released in 2020 to fix colour issues to do with gamma - This happens because Apple computers no longer use standard gamma settings, or standard colours anymore, so most colour issues are quicktime gamma issues
where r the davinci people?🙋🏽♂️😂
My best tip: RTFM😇 By way of analogy, if you approach an electric car like it's a petrol car, it may be disappointing. There's no gear shift. There's no clear way to rev the engine at the lights. The clutch is missing! FCP was designed to be completely different to Premiere, Resolve, and Avid. Using it like it wasn't - trying to make it work like traditional NLEs - is bananas.
Process: 1. Keyword in clips pane 2. View, cut out crap, and mark Favourites for visuals in clips pane. 3. Edit A Roll on timeline. 4. Edit and organise on the timeline: you have a primary magnetic timeline, an unlimited number of magnetic Storylines that connect to the primary, or just connect individual clips. The primary timeline is like the spine you can connect clips or other timelines to, and you bump different elements into and out of the Primary timeline depending on the stage of the edit you are at. If you edit the A Roll and just leave it in the primary timeline, you are wasting a key resource: bump it down - it will magically turn into a connected Storyline - and connect it to a 1 second slug at the start of the timeline to ensure it never moves. When you get to the sound mix stage, you will also have to learn something new you would never intuit. Learning is slow, but FCP is fast as it was designed from the ground up (like a Tesla as compared to a hybrid - 'How can I switch of the electric bit and just have petrol?')
Final crazy challenge: 1 timeline. If you have one timeline - with unlimited temporal snapshots you can revert to at any point - you can use Smart Playlists or whatever they're called to automatically create a collection of Unused Favourites + whatever metadata you want to define. It's a huge time saver. So there's another divergence: in FCP you organise using live updating playlists based on metadata. It's the same thing you might use to create a music playlist based on rules and ratings. Far superior to manually dragging clips into bins. Plus clips can be in 2 'bins' at the same time!
People should only use FCP if they are total beginners with an overview of the process. Or people who choose to spend time learning 'better' ways of working. The investment is worth it, but it's not for everyone. If you use are switching between NLE's constantly you might want to avoid FCP as the process is totally different. I bet it's terrible if used as a traditional NLE.
Matti, you definitely should try Davinci. I just switched from Premiere and it feels like I upgraded my PC. And much more stable.
Totally agree. I’m staying with Final Cut. Will also use Devinci here and there. Don’t want to get sucked into the Adobe rental universe. I use Premiere at work. Not intuitive, slow. Not fun. At home I use Final Cut. For photography work I use DxO PhotoLab. Love both programs.
Premiere Pro is Dead. (They just don't know it yet)
I still haven’t learned all that I could with Final Cut Pro X so I’ll be sticking with that for now. Keep up the great work, love all the vids!
What do you thank about premiere today?
this was so helpful and easy to understand - thank you for making this video!!
I've been using Final Cut for several years now, however, after seeing so many editors using Premier I keep thinking that I need to switch. Really glad to have seen this video because it's the first time I've actually seen that I might be better off sticking with Final Cut Pro.
Problem is cost effectiveness. Final Cut is £249.99
Premiere is £30 per month. Reason for cheapness, is easier access if apple happens to roll out a monthly service or subscription then I’d be happy to jump over. Most of my heavy work is in after effect so the dynamic link is the best thing to connect between premiere and AE, it’s a time saver. However, the glitches and bug are def most prominent in both pr and ae. I’ve wanting to try out motion part of Final Cut to see how it fares well in the visual effect side of things. I’d like to see your comparison between both motion and ae. And who comes out on top! Excellent comparisons in this video.
Coming from someone who's used Premiere Pro for years, and just recently switched, please Matti, give Davinci Resolve a chance. The program runs so much smoother, and editing will become exciting and fun again!! It's amazing what having a program that only cost $300 and doesn't crash all the time will do to your motivation to edit haha! Additionally the program takes away much of the need to have separate programs such as After Effects, or Audition, as basically all the same things can be done INSIDE Resolve!!
Damn - I wonder how much a plane ticket from Florida to Toronto would be? 🤨 A meet up sounds so amazing.
you can turn off magnetic timeline by pressing 'N'
🔥🔥🔥So... For the noob to cinematography (school) do you recommend Final Cut Pro or Premiere Pro?🚨🚨🚨 FCP, right?
I'm new to all of this, but the moment Premier crashed I switched to FCPX. Not only that but I replaced photoshop with pixelmator Pro and Illustrator with Vectornator. Everything looks and feels like Apple and also works like expected. All I wanted is to quickly and easily produce educational videos for my students. Yes and Motion 5 is a winner.
Great video Matti, I would love to see your thoughts on Davinci vs FCP (should you give Davinci a shot of course)
4:40 „I wish you could turn off the magnetic timeline in Final Cut“ -> of course you can do that, you have much more options than in Premiere! Have a look at what you can do with the tilde key and the position tool! Most of the points you criticized about Final Cut are due to the fact, that you obviously haven’t worked a lot with it yet and don’t seem to know the possibilities in it.
Don’t feel criticized, I just wanna spread some ❤️ for the underrated Final Cut Pro. Greetings from Austria!
Davinci resolve for the win! All the wins in this video is in Davinci resolve
I've been using Final Cut Pro for the past 4 years. And last week, I switched to DaVinci 😁
I started on Premier about 6 years ago and like you was constantly fighting the crashes and bugs. I switched to Resolve when it was at version 14 and haven't looked back. It's good for quick edits (cut page), complex edits and VFX (which take some getting used to it you are coming from After Effects). Definitely give Resolve a go. It's also super optimized for M1 now.
Hey Matti. I don’t know if you knew this but if you press P or select the position tool. It bypasses the magnetic timeline so that you can build more complex sequences. So you CAN in fact disable the magnetic timeline. Hope this helps.
Give DaVinci a shot and let me know how it is. I'm pretty comfortable with Premiere atm but saving hundreds a year would be nice.
Finally someone that can explain the major differences between these two editors. Thank u.
Matti I've been using Vegas pro since 2008, never had any bugs, it does have the magnetic time line , however you CAN switch it on and off..I know changing to a different program is a learning curve, but try the free month trial..
Your coffee in the intro look so delicious lol😂
Hi Matt, has this changed now 2 years later? Thank you for the video!
Holy schmokes! That was a well executed sponsor plug for Artgrid. I didn't feel the momentum change or realize it was a plug. Since we are a BYOD organization, we provide our students the use of both Premiere and FCPX. Overall, they tend to favor FCPX but Adobe still gets some love from the PC users. I can tell when someone is exporting a project in Premiere because their laptops sound like they're racing Elon to Mars.
Hello! Many thanks for a great video. How is today with Premier pro, are they better now?
“How the libraries balloon in Final Cut Pro…” Omg yes!! Finally someone shares my pain! I thought I’ve been going crazy and my projects were just too much for my hard drive!
export premiere timeline to davinci for colour grading. You can get much better results
I used premiere for about 2 years and then tried Davinci. The learning curve took a month or two. But after almost 2 years of using it, I can’t recommend it enough. You won’t miss Premiere one bit after editing/coloring/exporting in davinci (especially on an M1 Max machine 🔥).
Love the video! I struggle with same problem myself. But I settled on FCPX. No regrets.