New Girl is just up their with Sitcoms for me. It’s funny, wholesome, great relationships, and is written really well. I’ve rewatched it so many times. It’s my comfort show.
I never compared the two shows because Jess has 3 male roommates (at one point 4 with Coach) and even though there’s Cece the gender imbalance makes it unique. I always compared Friends with HIMYM.
This show was one of my favourite sitcoms of the 2010's, and didn't rely on a laugh track. The writing was consistently funny, and the characters likeable.
Friends is already a rehash of Living Single, another sitcom with 5/6 friends and roommates learning to live in New York in the 90s balancing work and relationships with entangling romances (a third guy was added in later seasons).
Like literally and they never get credited. It took me over two decades to circle back around to watch Friends. So I guess Friends is Living Single with White people. 😂
I feel the same, and I was born in 83 hence I grew up with Friends 😂 New Girl is just better in every way, Friends doesnt feel authentic and manynof their jokes are lame
I don't know how to put this into words, but as someone who grew up with a lot of internalized misogyny, the character of Jess always meant so much to me. There was something radical about having a character of a popular show be unabashedly feminine. I know rachel is too, but it's just not the same. Maybe it's sexist jokes or plot points that kinda undercut the power of the character of Rachel, not sure.
i feel like friends sometimes laughed *at* rachel for some of her more feminine traits. jess always completely owned her femininity but never made fun of other women who were different - or was criticised when she did (thinking of an argument between her and cece). that was probably bc of elizabeth meriwether tbh, fantastic writer
first of all, really interesting take on the core ingredients of a sitcom, and the use of cameras and similar narratives in it. for me what's significantly different is "new girl" nonsense humor especially between the guys, and thats why its fricking hilarious for me. the fact they dont really want to change but other people kind of make them to maintain healthy relationships is what keeps it going
There's definitely a lot of similarities between the two shows (and the others you mentioned) but in the end I think the concept of "attractive 20 somethings living together" is a trope. The "Will They Won't they" arc is one that writers use because they get themselves stuck in how to write relationships, and Winnie the Bish wasn't really a well defined character until much later in the series.
I feel like it's completely different to friends 🤷♂️ I admit it does have some details that cross over but I feel that's just stereotypes that the audience can relate to so when they deliver thier stories you feel engaged with the characters bc most of that they are conveying you have experienced in some way. It just happened that the audiences issues and lifestyles haven't changed that much between the release of the shows.
Friends is arguably the more notable of the two. It succeeded in ways Living Single never did, so this is likely what they copied. You ask anyone to tell you what sitcoms they thought were the greatest in the last 30 years and nobody is going to say Living Single before they mention Friends.
@@IzraelGraves more notable among white people yes. This is part of that institutional racism that you might have heard about. Living single was the better show which is why it was copied in the first place
Can’t have Friends without In Living Single & can’t have a ton of sitcoms without Friends. That’s just how it happens. Also, Winston wasn’t the “zany character” til later seasons as you already know.
Really weird to see clips of That 70s Show (premiered 1998) and Malcolm in the Middle (premiered 2000) on screen when talking about how single cams were a reaction to 9/11
"The groups merge because of a breakup" What a weird point to try to make. Monica and Ross are siblings. Phoebe was Monica's roommate before the show started. Joey moves in with Chandler completely independently of Rachel.
It's also bonkers that nearly everything you say about 2000s sitcoms (and attribute to 9/11), applies to Seinfeld, which you group with 90s sitcoms. Honestly, this video, and a bunch of others lately, feel really sloppy. You're just omitting any fact that doesn't fit and making some odd reaches to try to pull your thesis together.
New Girl is the more family friendly version of Always Sunny. They've even came out and said how similar they created the characters to always sunny. Nick is Charlie, Winston is Mac, Shmidt is Dennis. Just in a much more family friendly way. The cast of Always Sunny was all for it and didnd't even care a bit.
If they tried to copy Sunny, they failed miserably. New Girl, from the shows I watched, was watered down and unfunny. Sunny is fucking hilarious to this day.
Don’t forget about Happy Endings… a criminally underrated show that ended too soon. It also followed the formula of Friends like HIMYM, but I didn’t care.
@@PakuPakuMedia they were made by the same studio and people though for and friends was more successful because it was a bigger budget more general show meant to be a binge like show in the same way as Seinfeld or The Office and such
The FAR SUPERIOR show to Friends, New Girl is one of the funniest shows I've ever seen and I've never witnessed a more realistic depiction of oddball banter between friends!
@@billc5433 They did the trope with objectivity, "we can't work because we d want different things". I believed that they weren't meant to be at the time that they weren't. Friends is just "we're having a fight and I'm stubborn". They're always idiots that are meant to be. There's no real "won't they?".
New girl was better than friends. I watched both shows as the aired and without a doubt New girl was written better and didn’t outstay it welcome like friends did. Friends stopped being funny long before it ended.
@Shaun Ashley Same here, could never get into or care enough to keep watching. However, I've watched the entirety of Friends many, many times. It's a comfort/feel good show at this point.
Although I love the analytics, Friends will always have a place in my heart. It formed a trend, I grew up with it, and I love how realistically and relatable Friends is that still gives people life and ambition because of the relatability. I'll probably try New girl because of the similarities, but when it comes to Friends, I'll love it by every detail and that is something irreplaceable.
Same with Rules of Engagement which had I think 5 or so seasons. I like it enough, it just never hit big with everyone. But that's also a ton of sitcoms from the 90s, 2000s. Like, I'm surprised NewsRadio isn't bigger these days. I feel like everyone watched it and knows about it but never bring it up.
I feel like the video picked and choose the examples lmao they were plenty of single camera sitcom that were pretty earnest, that worked and stayed relevant post 9/11. How I met your mother, for example. Also, i totally feel the different crowd aspect. I know more people who actually watched and remember fondly Reba than people who watched arrested development haha
I mean, then you have to say that every sitcom since the honeymooners is the same show. Every sitcom, even friends took popular tropes. This isn't unique to New Girl and Friends at all
New Girl is vastly preferred for me, and I can totally acknowledge that it could be a general aspect. However, I find there to be a different sense of realism to my life in upper twenties now, appealing even more. Meanwhile, Friends makes me cringe a bit now, but I still appreciate.
I wonder if the pandemic will cause a shift in communal viewing vs individual perspective, like we saw pre 9/11. For the first time in years people were talking about the same shows at the same time and making it a part of the cultural narrative. Tiger King, squid game, grand army etc.
Well, going along with that, it seems like some sitcoms have really been merged with other genres(like the after party with a mystery, etc.) and also some shows that are going back to the 2000’s tactics of filming, like abbot elementary being a mockumentary, which is something we haven’t really seen since modern family, so I’m interested to seen where sitcoms are gonna go from here, but my guess is that people are gonna want more emotional and story building situations that also don’t shield us from the struggle of everyday life, still including the timing of the joke telling of the 2000’s and 2010 era shows
@@nucci6865 I really miss serial sitcoms and shows that have episode by episode stories. Everything is one long movie these days and you never know if it will end well or at all.
Yes!!! I’ve talked about these shows being the same for awhile now. I love the call out of the difference between single camera and multi camera that I hadn’t noticed myself
The disrespect. The slander. The Gaul. The nerve. The balls of this video 😂. I appreciate people that can look at media and entertainment from different perspectives… but New Girl I would argue is more entertaining. Both are classics, but New Girl for some reason (to me at least) is more relatable and I feel like it appeals to a MUCH longer demographic. Friends never felt real to me. New Girl did. But I can’t lie, I do see the similarities, but to say that it’s the same show is a bit much.
Good video. I always thought that New Girl was Big Bang Theory except the girl lived with the guys instead of across the hallway, and the guys weren't [as] nerdy (maybe this also goes to show how little I watched New Girl). Your video did a good job explaining the similarities between the two exist because of the commonality, which roots lie in Friends
I noticed the same when I watched new girl! but I love the way they developed Jess and Nick’s relationship, it’s sweet and genuine. And even tho it was obvious that they were going to be together in the end, the show didn’t treat their love interests as mere obstacles, but as real interest and development for their characters.💗
There is nothing new under the sun. Friends was inspired by the sitcoms that came before. Early television was inspired theater and radio. Those were inspired the written word. And that was inspired by simple story-telling. The drama and comedy of our existence is timeless. The medium through which those stories are experienced may change. But the innate experiences of being human have been the same since we've stood upright and spoke.
If I never need to prove I’m a nerd, which is unlikely, I’ll just show them the name of this channel. Seriously though I started actually watching you recently and you are one of the only channels that I instantly click the notification for.
I think it's tragic because it could've been bigger than friends but it was crippled from the get go. A show named new girl probably didn't appeal very much to your average heterosexual man, I bet a huge chunk of them probably felt weird with the girly aesthetic of the theme song, before it got changed to a simple jingle. And just the name on its own, new girl, probably men felt like there was no room for them on a show like this, and you can't make a show as friends without appealing to men, you just can't leave them out of the conversation. I don't mean me, because I actually loved the show but at the time 2010's it was more of a guilty pleasure, but I'm sure there were a lot of guys out there that didn't even gave it a chance based on the name
I don't know if anyone has thought this but I used to think that Frank and Marie Boyle (Everybody loves Raymond) were actually the older versions of Chandler and Monica Bing. The similarities between the two couples are quite a few. For eg, Monica and Marie are both highly controlling, micromanaging neat freaks. Both are amazing cooks. Chandler and Frank are both witty & cynical and wear the same kind of sweater vest. I would say that Chandler became cranky, mean and grumpy in his old age just like Frank. Both couples settled in the suburbs of New York. Yes their occupations differ and so do the types of children they had (Chandler and Monica adopted twins whereas Frank and Marie have biological sons).. It's just my own guilty pleasure to think so, just so I can imagine Chandler & Monica after their settling☺️
Both are great but friends gave us 10 Impecable seasons and new girls did only 8 and for me only 4 of them were really good the first ones of course. I like that new girl is based on LA and talks about older people not having it together at a certain age.
They are the same show except New girl has: better writing, more relatable characters, better side characters, and no Ross. Friends does have bigger cameos... but it does have Ross...
I think the similarities are just sitcom stuff. The majority sitcoms have common characteristics, that's what makes them sitcoms. So what these two shows in common are that they're both sitcoms.
I appreciate shows that don’t have laugh tracks like new girl, Malcolm in the middle, curb your enthusiasm ex. It shows that the show is actually funny and great on its own.
A recipe can have the same basic ingredients but if it's prepared in a new way, it seems new. This is true in music, too. The folk song "You Are My Sunshine" and Jackson Five's "I Want You Back" are essentially the same song in content but the tune is different so few noticed. Plenty of other examples just like that one.
Exactly, I think a lot of people are missing that with comments like Friends is just Living Single or whatever other comparisons between sitcoms. If it works, it works. Nobody is stealing ideas at this/that point for shows like these.
OMG...literally the day before yesterday I compared Phoebe to Winston and this video just read my mind!!!! Thank you peach bellinis for leading me to this video.
Hmmm... You could say that "Friends" was the new "Taxi" for that matter, or any other sitcom that came before. Hell, I'll bet you we could research and find some Ancient Greek plays just like "Friends".
Ross and Rachel are terrible for eachother, they are toxic and obsessive. Jess and Nick knew when to break up and waited until they where mature enough to settle down. Ross and Rachel are bad for eachother, Nick and Jess help eachother to be better. My opinion though, don’t murder me
I couldn’t disagree with this more! Jess is terrible for Nick. Jess is an incredibly selfish, immature, manipulative, person who is just obsessed with changing people who she thinks they should be. Nick grows and changes throughout the show while Jess gets worse throughout the show.
Just because King of Queens and That 70s Show started in the *very* late '90s, doesn't mean they're '90s shows. They're 2000s shows. They ended in '07 & '06.
New Girl was so great at the beginning but kinda becomes frustrating. Especially when Nick and Jess break up for basically no reason and they drag out their romance to try to fit that friends narrative. It's glaringly obvious to see how many connections it has with Friends (Because let's face it, you can relate anything and everything to a friends episode) and they probably took creative license with that because it's just a smart move. I just felt like the show loses it's zest and they could have come up with more creative ideas for episodes some times... it's still an obviously amazing and funny show though.
The copying of a sit-com basic set-up isn't uncommon. How many times can you watch the "four friends/roomates/co-workers hang out together" concept and not start seeing it as a copy of Golden Girls or Facts of Life or Girlfriends or Designing Women or Living Single or How I met Your Mother or Being Human. I'm sure if I look, I might find this format going back further than the 80s. Did Happy Days count or was that too focused on the family?
There are two types of shows I miss. Fun sci-fi shows like Eureka, Stargate SG1, Warehouse 13 etc and fun action/crime of the week like Psych, Burn Notice, and Monk. Excited for the Orville to return. I am just not into Dune, Expanse, insert other serious sci-fi.
the strength of new girl is that every character could be the funny one of the episode or the emotionnal of the episode without lowering the level of the episode. in friends, when one of the 4 characters that, in the beginning, were there just for fun (aka Monica, Phoebe, Chandler and Joey) becomes emotionnal, the episode is less good. The whole ark where Joey is in love with Rachel was awful bc Joey works as a comedic character not as a dramatic one. Same things when Chandler and Monica are serious about their relationship. When Schmidt is serious about his relationship with Cece, it makes no problem.
New Girl is just up their with Sitcoms for me. It’s funny, wholesome, great relationships, and is written really well. I’ve rewatched it so many times. It’s my comfort show.
I never compared the two shows because Jess has 3 male roommates (at one point 4 with Coach) and even though there’s Cece the gender imbalance makes it unique. I always compared Friends with HIMYM.
Himym was very not secretly the same show as friends
@@eliborovoy1021 but nowhere near as funny
HIMYM is way better than Friends. Even HIMYF is better than Friends.
@@nerdzomnia better in some ways but comedy? Absolutely not. Star wars star wars son of a beeeeech. Shit got unbearable by season 6
@@nerdzomnia all these show suck compared to perfect strangers.
This show was one of my favourite sitcoms of the 2010's, and didn't rely on a laugh track. The writing was consistently funny, and the characters likeable.
very true
@@djdndi …what? 🤠
@@djdndi still annoying
Much more a symptom of the changing climate than an idea on the part of the show.
Audiences made more sense in the 90s.
it is easily one of the best sitcoms ever made if you ask me.
My wife has watched new girl no lie around 9 times since 2020. It's such a greatly written show.
me
Friends is already a rehash of Living Single, another sitcom with 5/6 friends and roommates learning to live in New York in the 90s balancing work and relationships with entangling romances (a third guy was added in later seasons).
Was looking for this comment😄
Living Single >>>>>>>>>>>
Classic formula. "Let's do that again, but this time without black people."
I need to add this to my to be watched list then XD
Like literally and they never get credited. It took me over two decades to circle back around to watch Friends. So I guess Friends is Living Single with White people. 😂
I can see the similarities but it's funny how much I love new girl and how I can't seem to get through an episode of Friends.
same. we in the minority, but New Girl is netter than Friends, someone has to say it.
I feel the same, and I was born in 83 hence I grew up with Friends 😂 New Girl is just better in every way, Friends doesnt feel authentic and manynof their jokes are lame
@@jirehpsalmpaule6077Just finished it! It’s now my favorite show, but I will wait some time for the hype to pass
I don't know how to put this into words, but as someone who grew up with a lot of internalized misogyny, the character of Jess always meant so much to me. There was something radical about having a character of a popular show be unabashedly feminine. I know rachel is too, but it's just not the same. Maybe it's sexist jokes or plot points that kinda undercut the power of the character of Rachel, not sure.
i feel like friends sometimes laughed *at* rachel for some of her more feminine traits. jess always completely owned her femininity but never made fun of other women who were different - or was criticised when she did (thinking of an argument between her and cece). that was probably bc of elizabeth meriwether tbh, fantastic writer
I dress just like Jess. I have had women put me down for wearing skirts and being feminine. I completely understand this.
first of all, really interesting take on the core ingredients of a sitcom, and the use of cameras and similar narratives in it.
for me what's significantly different is "new girl" nonsense humor especially between the guys, and thats why its fricking hilarious for me.
the fact they dont really want to change but other people kind of make them to maintain healthy relationships is what keeps it going
There's definitely a lot of similarities between the two shows (and the others you mentioned) but in the end I think the concept of "attractive 20 somethings living together" is a trope. The "Will They Won't they" arc is one that writers use because they get themselves stuck in how to write relationships, and Winnie the Bish wasn't really a well defined character until much later in the series.
I feel like it's completely different to friends 🤷♂️ I admit it does have some details that cross over but I feel that's just stereotypes that the audience can relate to so when they deliver thier stories you feel engaged with the characters bc most of that they are conveying you have experienced in some way. It just happened that the audiences issues and lifestyles haven't changed that much between the release of the shows.
I'm surprised that you didn't mention that friends was originally a rip-off of living single that started 2 or 3 years prior.
That's for sure what this video should have been.
That surprises you?
Friends is arguably the more notable of the two. It succeeded in ways Living Single never did, so this is likely what they copied. You ask anyone to tell you what sitcoms they thought were the greatest in the last 30 years and nobody is going to say Living Single before they mention Friends.
@@IzraelGraves more notable among white people yes. This is part of that institutional racism that you might have heard about. Living single was the better show which is why it was copied in the first place
@@IzraelGraves I wonder why🤔🤔
Can’t have Friends without In Living Single & can’t have a ton of sitcoms without Friends. That’s just how it happens.
Also, Winston wasn’t the “zany character” til later seasons as you already know.
Really weird to see clips of That 70s Show (premiered 1998) and Malcolm in the Middle (premiered 2000) on screen when talking about how single cams were a reaction to 9/11
"The groups merge because of a breakup"
What a weird point to try to make. Monica and Ross are siblings. Phoebe was Monica's roommate before the show started. Joey moves in with Chandler completely independently of Rachel.
It's also bonkers that nearly everything you say about 2000s sitcoms (and attribute to 9/11), applies to Seinfeld, which you group with 90s sitcoms.
Honestly, this video, and a bunch of others lately, feel really sloppy. You're just omitting any fact that doesn't fit and making some odd reaches to try to pull your thesis together.
All things considered, New Girl still has something that Friends will never have, black characters.
There's tons on black shows that don't have white characters, what's your point?
@@wiictvchannel1112 then New Girl has something that those shows don't have White characters.
@@wiictvchannel1112 name 5 black tv shows that have zero white characters
New Girl is the more family friendly version of Always Sunny. They've even came out and said how similar they created the characters to always sunny. Nick is Charlie, Winston is Mac, Shmidt is Dennis. Just in a much more family friendly way. The cast of Always Sunny was all for it and didnd't even care a bit.
If they tried to copy Sunny, they failed miserably. New Girl, from the shows I watched, was watered down and unfunny. Sunny is fucking hilarious to this day.
It's not even REMOTELY similar to Always Sunny. What are you talking about?
@@seanthegrizz3983 what?
No one is Charlie...
@@seanthegrizz3983 No.. in tone, humour, messaging, and plot... SO much closer to friends.
always sunny is just a different kind of show
Don’t forget about Happy Endings… a criminally underrated show that ended too soon. It also followed the formula of Friends like HIMYM, but I didn’t care.
Do one about friends being the same show as living single
facts and that it came before
Friends: "Can we make Living Single but with no minorities in it?"
tbh, a show about friends navigating through life and growing with time is too general of a concept to be the trademark of one show.
FRIENDS stole its premise from LIVING SINGLE and its only fair NEW GIRL takes its premise from Friends
Well Friends is basically the stolen white version of the show “Living Single” so we can call it even.
People keep saying stolen or rip off like ideas for sitcoms are all original. They aren't.
@@wiictvchannel1112 it literally is..
@@PakuPakuMedia they were made by the same studio and people though for and friends was more successful because it was a bigger budget more general show meant to be a binge like show in the same way as Seinfeld or The Office and such
The FAR SUPERIOR show to Friends, New Girl is one of the funniest shows I've ever seen and I've never witnessed a more realistic depiction of oddball banter between friends!
You are insane. New girl was painful towards the end. Friends is legendary.
Was it though?
@@Datguy931 Totally agree. New Girl had a solid first few seasons, but didn't know how to carry the "Will they Won't they".
L.
@@billc5433 They did the trope with objectivity, "we can't work because we d want different things". I believed that they weren't meant to be at the time that they weren't. Friends is just "we're having a fight and I'm stubborn". They're always idiots that are meant to be. There's no real "won't they?".
I think New Girl is a better show - no laugh track, the jokes are smarter, the characters are more rounded.
“New Girl” is a show about friends in their 30s though.
this
New girl was better than friends. I watched both shows as the aired and without a doubt New girl was written better and didn’t outstay it welcome like friends did. Friends stopped being funny long before it ended.
Stop it.Friends is still being streamed 28 years after its first release. The show is Goated
No it is not, thanks for watching.
One major difference is New Girl was actually and consistently funny.
Gotta disagree with you on that. The show was good but didn't know how to write believable relationships.
@@billc5433 agreed
@Shaun Ashley Same here, could never get into or care enough to keep watching. However, I've watched the entirety of Friends many, many times. It's a comfort/feel good show at this point.
@@billc5433 WHAT?!!!!!
@@wiictvchannel1112friends is a good show but new girl is better in almost any way, and if you disagree tell me why
Well Friends is just White Living Single, which was first, and was under the working title friends. So maybe you should try comparing that?
Although I love the analytics, Friends will always have a place in my heart. It formed a trend, I grew up with it, and I love how realistically and relatable Friends is that still gives people life and ambition because of the relatability. I'll probably try New girl because of the similarities, but when it comes to Friends, I'll love it by every detail and that is something irreplaceable.
Happy Endings does a wonderful spiff on this Friends trope, and it blew my mind when I saw it way back when
New Girl is a good and fun show about good and fun people.
To be fair, Reba got 6 seasons. So I wouldn't say it came and went. Just hit with a different crowd.
Same with Rules of Engagement which had I think 5 or so seasons. I like it enough, it just never hit big with everyone. But that's also a ton of sitcoms from the 90s, 2000s. Like, I'm surprised NewsRadio isn't bigger these days. I feel like everyone watched it and knows about it but never bring it up.
I feel like the video picked and choose the examples lmao they were plenty of single camera sitcom that were pretty earnest, that worked and stayed relevant post 9/11. How I met your mother, for example.
Also, i totally feel the different crowd aspect. I know more people who actually watched and remember fondly Reba than people who watched arrested development haha
I mean, then you have to say that every sitcom since the honeymooners is the same show. Every sitcom, even friends took popular tropes. This isn't unique to New Girl and Friends at all
New Girl is vastly preferred for me, and I can totally acknowledge that it could be a general aspect. However, I find there to be a different sense of realism to my life in upper twenties now, appealing even more. Meanwhile, Friends makes me cringe a bit now, but I still appreciate.
I wonder if the pandemic will cause a shift in communal viewing vs individual perspective, like we saw pre 9/11.
For the first time in years people were talking about the same shows at the same time and making it a part of the cultural narrative. Tiger King, squid game, grand army etc.
Well, going along with that, it seems like some sitcoms have really been merged with other genres(like the after party with a mystery, etc.) and also some shows that are going back to the 2000’s tactics of filming, like abbot elementary being a mockumentary, which is something we haven’t really seen since modern family, so I’m interested to seen where sitcoms are gonna go from here, but my guess is that people are gonna want more emotional and story building situations that also don’t shield us from the struggle of everyday life, still including the timing of the joke telling of the 2000’s and 2010 era shows
@@nucci6865 I really miss serial sitcoms and shows that have episode by episode stories. Everything is one long movie these days and you never know if it will end well or at all.
"Jar" - Cece
Yes!!! I’ve talked about these shows being the same for awhile now. I love the call out of the difference between single camera and multi camera that I hadn’t noticed myself
Please make a video on Friends being the same show as Living Single though 👀
Poor Ferguson...he was not a smelly cat, he was the best cat.
The disrespect. The slander. The Gaul. The nerve. The balls of this video 😂. I appreciate people that can look at media and entertainment from different perspectives… but New Girl I would argue is more entertaining. Both are classics, but New Girl for some reason (to me at least) is more relatable and I feel like it appeals to a MUCH longer demographic. Friends never felt real to me. New Girl did. But I can’t lie, I do see the similarities, but to say that it’s the same show is a bit much.
Nah cuz new girl is actually reflective of the demographic they live in aka there are black n brown ppl pretty lit
I did not expect 9/11 to be part of this video
Good video. I always thought that New Girl was Big Bang Theory except the girl lived with the guys instead of across the hallway, and the guys weren't [as] nerdy (maybe this also goes to show how little I watched New Girl). Your video did a good job explaining the similarities between the two exist because of the commonality, which roots lie in Friends
Friends and Living Single is the exact same show and Living Single came out first but it would never get the credit because it was a black show
I noticed the same when I watched new girl! but I love the way they developed Jess and Nick’s relationship, it’s sweet and genuine. And even tho it was obvious that they were going to be together in the end, the show didn’t treat their love interests as mere obstacles, but as real interest and development for their characters.💗
There is nothing new under the sun. Friends was inspired by the sitcoms that came before. Early television was inspired theater and radio. Those were inspired the written word. And that was inspired by simple story-telling. The drama and comedy of our existence is timeless. The medium through which those stories are experienced may change. But the innate experiences of being human have been the same since we've stood upright and spoke.
I would love if you put this under every comment mentioning Living Single
Friends had some great episodes like "The Pineapple Incident", "Dowistrepla", and I'm getting that and HIMYM confused again.
If I never need to prove I’m a nerd, which is unlikely, I’ll just show them the name of this channel.
Seriously though I started actually watching you recently and you are one of the only channels that I instantly click the notification for.
To be fair they're all the same show as Living Single
New Girl has 7 seasons, not 9 like you said
Friends itself is a rip off of Living Single...... but white.
So this concept went from all black people, to all white people, to three white people, to black people and an Indian. That's progress.
The main difference is that New Girl is funny
I think it's tragic because it could've been bigger than friends but it was crippled from the get go. A show named new girl probably didn't appeal very much to your average heterosexual man, I bet a huge chunk of them probably felt weird with the girly aesthetic of the theme song, before it got changed to a simple jingle. And just the name on its own, new girl, probably men felt like there was no room for them on a show like this, and you can't make a show as friends without appealing to men, you just can't leave them out of the conversation. I don't mean me, because I actually loved the show but at the time 2010's it was more of a guilty pleasure, but I'm sure there were a lot of guys out there that didn't even gave it a chance based on the name
Exactly. I feel weird saying I want to watch a show called “New Girl”. A more neutral title probably would’ve served them better
I will never forget the first time jess and nick kissed, it was one of the best and pure kisses on sitcom tv.
I don't know if anyone has thought this but I used to think that Frank and Marie Boyle (Everybody loves Raymond) were actually the older versions of Chandler and Monica Bing. The similarities between the two couples are quite a few. For eg, Monica and Marie are both highly controlling, micromanaging neat freaks. Both are amazing cooks. Chandler and Frank are both witty & cynical and wear the same kind of sweater vest. I would say that Chandler became cranky, mean and grumpy in his old age just like Frank. Both couples settled in the suburbs of New York. Yes their occupations differ and so do the types of children they had (Chandler and Monica adopted twins whereas Frank and Marie have biological sons).. It's just my own guilty pleasure to think so, just so I can imagine Chandler & Monica after their settling☺️
Both are great but friends gave us 10
Impecable seasons and new girls did only 8 and for me only 4 of them were really good the first ones of course. I like that new girl is based on LA and talks about older people not having it together at a certain age.
This is a huge stretch. I feel you could do this with any sitcom.
Indeed. This almost feels like the "Gravity" scene from _Community._
And Friends was stolen from Living Single, even the cast said so.
Actually, Friends was a rip off of a 90s black comedy show called Living Single
They are the same show except New girl has: better writing, more relatable characters, better side characters, and no Ross.
Friends does have bigger cameos... but it does have Ross...
Friends led to How I Met Your Mother which led to Happy Endings
I think the similarities are just sitcom stuff. The majority sitcoms have common characteristics, that's what makes them sitcoms. So what these two shows in common are that they're both sitcoms.
I appreciate shows that don’t have laugh tracks like new girl, Malcolm in the middle, curb your enthusiasm ex. It shows that the show is actually funny and great on its own.
If we really want to get real. Friends is secretly the Exact same show as Living Single. With a white cast. So is new girl secretly Living Single?
I judge me for missing so many of these parallels...
A recipe can have the same basic ingredients but if it's prepared in a new way, it seems new. This is true in music, too. The folk song "You Are My Sunshine" and Jackson Five's "I Want You Back" are essentially the same song in content but the tune is different so few noticed. Plenty of other examples just like that one.
It's no Friends than How I Met Your Mother. It's just a formulation that works.
Exactly, I think a lot of people are missing that with comments like Friends is just Living Single or whatever other comparisons between sitcoms. If it works, it works. Nobody is stealing ideas at this/that point for shows like these.
I thought The Big Bang Theory was unique initially but then morphed into Friends.
Of course they're similar, the producers were probably explicitly told to make it the new Friends
My gf disagrees. She says How I Met Your Mother is more closer to Friends.
They can both be true?
The better question is, "Is Friends Secretly The Same Show As "Living Single?" (secret answer is yes.. Living Single came first).
I could never get into friends I think it's the people laughing at everything that I don't find funny, someone walks in to a room HAHAAHA
I always thought New Girl gave me more of late 90's early Family Guy vibe.
Also do Raising Hope next.
OMG...literally the day before yesterday I compared Phoebe to Winston and this video just read my mind!!!! Thank you peach bellinis for leading me to this video.
Hmmm... You could say that "Friends" was the new "Taxi" for that matter, or any other sitcom that came before. Hell, I'll bet you we could research and find some Ancient Greek plays just like "Friends".
My two all time time favorite comfort watch shows. And I fell in love with Nick even harder than I fell for Chandler.
nick is just pure joy
Cuz he's more relatable.
Ross and Rachel are terrible for eachother, they are toxic and obsessive. Jess and Nick knew when to break up and waited until they where mature enough to settle down. Ross and Rachel are bad for eachother, Nick and Jess help eachother to be better. My opinion though, don’t murder me
I agree that Ross and Rachel are terrible for one another.
Ross and Phoebe is the direction the show should have gone.
Jess and nick forever. ❤❤❤
@@kimmyisgreen2929 While I think Ross and Rachel are going to divorce, I think the same of Jess and Nick.
I couldn’t disagree with this more! Jess is terrible for Nick. Jess is an incredibly selfish, immature, manipulative, person who is just obsessed with changing people who she thinks they should be. Nick grows and changes throughout the show while Jess gets worse throughout the show.
Ross is an absolute piece of shit. I can't root for him. Nick is in the process of growing.
Thanks for blowing my mind. I'll pick up the pieces later 🙂
in the beginning i thought naah they look completely different but then i was like whuaat so i proofed your point. well done.
One of the biggest things that sets New Girl aside from Friends is the absence of misogyny, homophobia, and Ross thankfully
And New Girl is secretly way better than Friends.
side note, the pilot of new girl is not whats being shown in video, its a diffrent person, that being side its a pilot so this things do happen.
Do a video on Living single and Friends.
Did you say new girl was a show about 4 Friends!?
Four?
You really forget about CiCi???
SHAME ON YOU!
/s (Kinda Cici was great)
Nah, black people exist in the world of New Girl
Zoey Deschanel is like 500 billion times more prettier than Jennifer Aniston.
The major difference is that new girl is better because its actually funny
Just because King of Queens and That 70s Show started in the *very* late '90s, doesn't mean they're '90s shows.
They're 2000s shows. They ended in '07 & '06.
I always thought that New Girl was just a gender swapped Three's Company.
I don’t like either but if I had to pick then New Girl wins easily. Unfortunately I found friends overrated imo.
I don't particularly love either, but I prefer Friends. Ross is nuts and it's hilarious to watch.
Biggest difference between the two, Friends is mildly humorous, New Girl is hilarious.
New Girl was so great at the beginning but kinda becomes frustrating. Especially when Nick and Jess break up for basically no reason and they drag out their romance to try to fit that friends narrative. It's glaringly obvious to see how many connections it has with Friends (Because let's face it, you can relate anything and everything to a friends episode) and they probably took creative license with that because it's just a smart move. I just felt like the show loses it's zest and they could have come up with more creative ideas for episodes some times... it's still an obviously amazing and funny show though.
The copying of a sit-com basic set-up isn't uncommon. How many times can you watch the "four friends/roomates/co-workers hang out together" concept and not start seeing it as a copy of Golden Girls or Facts of Life or Girlfriends or Designing Women or Living Single or How I met Your Mother or Being Human. I'm sure if I look, I might find this format going back further than the 80s. Did Happy Days count or was that too focused on the family?
There are two types of shows I miss. Fun sci-fi shows like Eureka, Stargate SG1, Warehouse 13 etc and fun action/crime of the week like Psych, Burn Notice, and Monk.
Excited for the Orville to return. I am just not into Dune, Expanse, insert other serious sci-fi.
I absolutely agree. I'm getting really tired of the drama serious shows where I just don't invest anymore at all.
Friends was just literally Living Single but with white people.
I like New Girl better lol Nick and Jess are a lot less annoying than Ross and Rachel
i don't think it has ever been a secret.
One man said “There are no original ideas.” Everything has more than likely been done before.
the strength of new girl is that every character could be the funny one of the episode or the emotionnal of the episode without lowering the level of the episode. in friends, when one of the 4 characters that, in the beginning, were there just for fun (aka Monica, Phoebe, Chandler and Joey) becomes emotionnal, the episode is less good. The whole ark where Joey is in love with Rachel was awful bc Joey works as a comedic character not as a dramatic one. Same things when Chandler and Monica are serious about their relationship. When Schmidt is serious about his relationship with Cece, it makes no problem.