@Lucas at least we got a rolls royce😎. But no for real, phantom isn’t too bad. Rose carte finale, frozen orb, rift break and ace in the hole easily take out full maps. Two of those are after 200 though..
Lumi, for me, is super well-balanced. Mobbing is obviously S tier w/ reflection, gate of light, aether conduit, and the revamped apocalypse (kills more mobs). Bossing is arguably A tier given equilibrium mode, freud’s wisdom, and a built in /bind. Liberation Orb has now increased Lumi’s dps. In equilibrium mode, his teleport is unmatched in speed, distance, and movement. And even his regular teleport, imo, is fluid, compact, and easy to predict its next location.
somehow you missed the absolute best well-rounded class out of all of these: Blaze Wizard If you want a class that takes the "excels at nothing" part of the jack-of-all-trades archetype to its absolute peak, look no further than Blaze Wizard :')
I made a demon slayer for a burn character and realized how tanky and strong it is I was clearing bosses faster than adele. Other people complain its boring to play but this class uses no potions to mob with. Its my new main for now..
I think pathfinder would also be a good rounded class, they can kinda sustain them self due to each time they fill thier relic gague they heal them self and have a party shield with 1 . They also deal decent damage with thier curse mechanic. So yeah ~
Blaze Wizard should definitely be on here. They get a free revive than can be used twice in one boss fight if you time the cooldown right, a summoned circle boosting damage by 60% for everyone standing in it, and inferno sphere dealing 12 lines per half second, halting all momentum if used in the air, and able to be held for 30 seconds with a full cooldown.
I thought the top place would be none other than Page xD! But I thought Ho Young would take a higher spot, phantom is reaaallly out of the spot here imo :S
Dude i love your videos! I just got back into maple for the first time in 13 years and followed your assasin guide. I now have a level 200 light lord and have fulfilled every childhood maple dream i ever had 😅😂 I was wondering if you could make a video about what to do after 200? It's very confusing. Do you think it's better to make a second character or keep progressing my main?
People are sleeping on illium. Incredible mobbing. Really high burst for bossing. Actual free flight for mobility. It doesnt have a bind but it has a 10 second partywide that it can still do its burst during. Slept on class seriously.
mind if i ask why mech was excluded? yes it lacks a bind and , but technically it's one of the MOST all rounded classes (though by this list's standards, mech might be considered a watered-down kanna though) -summons -healing -buff barrier -aran's dash -hovering -knockoff windwalk but unique to mech would be portals and their 5ths.
I'm kindoff suprised Wildhunter isn't added in this list, They have great movement, max movement speed, a damage dealing horizonal dash and a damage dealing updash with no cooldown. They have 100% uptime on all of their mobbing skills including 2 summons that can clear part of a map while you aren't there. Bossing is super straightforward aswell with moonwalking to allow for easy dodging while still being able to put out DPS and even has a bind and a very long , Feels like WH would be quite a bit better then BaM for example. There are probably a few more changes, Mihile should be number 1 in my opinion. But we can discuss that another time. Keep doing what you're doing. MehCapricorn
As someone who mains a kanna I can tell you that this is one of the best decisions I have ever made. I’m playing since 2007, was playing most jobs , I own like 14 chars, and kanna is my favorite along with some more but definitely located in the first place for me. It does have ALOT of skills but the job is amazing, for me at least 🙂
As a Kanna main let me tell you, Kanna is so stupid like she has equal utility to Bishop, better farming than most classes, the only class with inherent spawn booster in it, does a stupid amount of DPS considering the utility she has, has the longest bind in the game at 15s, ridiculous survivability because yuki-musume and a healing skill. Honestly she deserves nerfs because she's literally the best class in the game but I really only play her because she was and has been my favourite class even before her rework when she was just a domain mule
@@Iorgarino Yes they do and I agree with you, but to me I think they can easily take Phantom’s place in this current patch. Hero doesn’t have good mobbing but they make up for it bossing wise.
@@marble8519 their bossing may be good but the video is about well rounded classes not best bossers Phantoms bossing can be amazing and can mob on any map in the game basically which puts it well above hero in terms of being well rounded
@@marble8519 i never once mentioned funding but if you are putting it like that you are contradicting your original statement what i said is that hero in no way deserved to replace phantom on this list as they excel at bossing but have horrible mobbing thus making them a bossing oriented class more than an all rounder class your argument makes no sense
hey coppersan what're your thoughts on like group party questing, there used to be all these party quests but no one wants to do them because they're not as rewarding anymore. I feel like I hit a brick wall in the game where there's not much to do anymore sadly except grind level up. Maybe you can get your word out to the maple GM's tell them about this concern because they certainly won't listen to the general public.
are you going to do a phantom 1 to 200? it's my favorite class and have watched your speedrun of getting it to 200 and wondering if youll do a regular 1 to 200 of it
hmm i really want to ask about kaiser im an old player and made a comeback some months ago i did raise my range to 10m clean ( around 14-18 buffed) but i find it hard to keep with the new bosses even hard gollux become hard for me so want to know if i should change it to another warrior type like DS , or is it me who playing it wrong ?
Kaiser can be very strong however sadly alot of other warriors out shine it. Also bossing has a lot more factors than just range e.g. boss damage and ied the later of which is extremely important in late game bossing as how need a certain amount of ied to actually damage the bosses in the first place.
@@CHL2002 actually im not sure how much ied i need and for boss dmg still low like 250% but kaiser not great on term of surviving like other warrior classes also no binding the only thing that stopping me from starting new right now is the level of my arcane symbol i hope i can change class without start new
@@deviltiger00 My boss damage is below 200% and i can solo hellux most high level bosses your functional ied needs to be over 90% to damage them properly and if you are on non-reboot i believe you can transfer arcane symbols (with a bit of loss to them) to other characters if you really wish to change classes
Omg...maplestory 😭❤ I haven't played in 12 or 13 years and ima start again!!! I used too play with my hermit and whatever else after 😂 what would people recommend? Demon slayer?
I just watched hella videos from this man. Love the content amazing. 100000% ! And the fact he takes time to heart everyone's comment is beyond amazing !
Iframes, or invincibility frames, have a purpose mostly in bossing. With most bosses nowadays doing %damage or even 1 shotting with some attacks, an can make the difference between you dying and you living. They also, if long enough, make you able to not worry about some tricky attacks to focus on doing damage instead of dodging
summary 4 everyone:
0:00 Intro
1:12 Aran
2:35 Kain
3:45 Ark
4:36 Battle Mage
5:39 Adele
6:39 Hoyoung
7:48 Phantom
9:16 Demon Slayer
10:52 Zero
12:06 Kanna
13:21 Outro
p/s: my main character is Phantom (NowUCKid server Elysium)
Can you release the excel sheet please? That would be really nice to have!
Where i can see the full excel sheet?
This guy should work at Nexon as a GM.
And spend all day banning bots? Nah. He should be a designer!
What are you talking about, there’s WizetSan
In theory phantom should be in this list but practically it shouldn’t
Recently got back into MapleStory after about 10 years so definitely happy I found this channel
You too? Same
This is actually really accurate. Also all these classes except maybe phantom are great for new / returning maplers.
@Lucas at least we got a rolls royce😎. But no for real, phantom isn’t too bad. Rose carte finale, frozen orb, rift break and ace in the hole easily take out full maps. Two of those are after 200 though..
@Lucas high end phantom is considered one of the best in kms right now
phantom isn't bad at all, for what it is. his own skills aren't that bad either, if you overlook their damage%
Lumi, for me, is super well-balanced. Mobbing is obviously S tier w/ reflection, gate of light, aether conduit, and the revamped apocalypse (kills more mobs). Bossing is arguably A tier given equilibrium mode, freud’s wisdom, and a built in /bind. Liberation Orb has now increased Lumi’s dps. In equilibrium mode, his teleport is unmatched in speed, distance, and movement. And even his regular teleport, imo, is fluid, compact, and easy to predict its next location.
agreed now even more so
@@thegodssin HAHAH i quit a few months ago, but i'm hearing lumi's reflection is now unrestricted (doesn't just prefer downward angle anymore).
Been watching your videos since I just came back to maplestory in Reboot. Glad to see you're still going strong in Maplestory. Idk how u do it.
somehow you missed the absolute best well-rounded class out of all of these: Blaze Wizard
If you want a class that takes the "excels at nothing" part of the jack-of-all-trades archetype to its absolute peak, look no further than Blaze Wizard :')
Nice seeing that Phantom receives some love. Pretty nice class imo
I made a demon slayer for a burn character and realized how tanky and strong it is I was clearing bosses faster than adele. Other people complain its boring to play but this class uses no potions to mob with. Its my new main for now..
I think pathfinder would also be a good rounded class, they can kinda sustain them self due to each time they fill thier relic gague they heal them self and have a party shield with 1 . They also deal decent damage with thier curse mechanic. So yeah ~
Blaze Wizard should definitely be on here. They get a free revive than can be used twice in one boss fight if you time the cooldown right, a summoned circle boosting damage by 60% for everyone standing in it, and inferno sphere dealing 12 lines per half second, halting all momentum if used in the air, and able to be held for 30 seconds with a full cooldown.
I thought the top place would be none other than Page xD! But I thought Ho Young would take a higher spot, phantom is reaaallly out of the spot here imo :S
Always happy to see a coppersan vid!
I NEED THAT SPREADSHEET SO BAD THANKS
GZ on 240, didn't catch it on stream but am glad that you got there. (before needing to do it all over again in a different server)
Dude i love your videos! I just got back into maple for the first time in 13 years and followed your assasin guide. I now have a level 200 light lord and have fulfilled every childhood maple dream i ever had 😅😂 I was wondering if you could make a video about what to do after 200? It's very confusing. Do you think it's better to make a second character or keep progressing my main?
People are sleeping on illium. Incredible mobbing. Really high burst for bossing. Actual free flight for mobility. It doesnt have a bind but it has a 10 second partywide that it can still do its burst during. Slept on class seriously.
we need a top 10 bossing class vid and grinding vid now hehe
I just got back into MS, and man Kanna is ridiculous! Mobbing was ridiculous pretty much as soon as Tengu, and only got more ridiculous in 4th
mind if i ask why mech was excluded? yes it lacks a bind and , but technically it's one of the MOST all rounded classes (though by this list's standards, mech might be considered a watered-down kanna though)
-summons
-healing
-buff barrier
-aran's dash
-hovering
-knockoff windwalk
but unique to mech would be portals and their 5ths.
I'm kindoff suprised Wildhunter isn't added in this list, They have great movement, max movement speed, a damage dealing horizonal dash and a damage dealing updash with no cooldown. They have 100% uptime on all of their mobbing skills including 2 summons that can clear part of a map while you aren't there. Bossing is super straightforward aswell with moonwalking to allow for easy dodging while still being able to put out DPS and even has a bind and a very long , Feels like WH would be quite a bit better then BaM for example. There are probably a few more changes, Mihile should be number 1 in my opinion. But we can discuss that another time. Keep doing what you're doing.
MehCapricorn
I like the way you think Mr coppersan
Yeah I really don’t think Phantom’s spot is justified
Yes it is. Phantom is a jack of all trades master of none. They also have 5 s 3 binds
Great video :) It'd be great to see more similar videos about what the pros and cons are for the different classes
Hi coppersan! Love your videos! What are your thoughts about luminous in regards to this list?
Hmm maybe I should give Kanna another chance.
Btw, I don’t like the thumbnail’s red border. I thought the video was marked that I already watched lol
As someone who mains a kanna I can tell you that this is one of the best decisions I have ever made. I’m playing since 2007, was playing most jobs , I own like 14 chars, and kanna is my favorite along with some more but definitely located in the first place for me. It does have ALOT of skills but the job is amazing, for me at least 🙂
As a Kanna main let me tell you, Kanna is so stupid like she has equal utility to Bishop, better farming than most classes, the only class with inherent spawn booster in it, does a stupid amount of DPS considering the utility she has, has the longest bind in the game at 15s, ridiculous survivability because yuki-musume and a healing skill.
Honestly she deserves nerfs because she's literally the best class in the game but I really only play her because she was and has been my favourite class even before her rework when she was just a domain mule
u deserve 500k likes
I really think Pathfinder or Hero would take Phantom’s place. Super surprised!
Hero can't get in the place since its mobing are suck, like really really suck sompare to other
@@Iorgarino Yes they do and I agree with you, but to me I think they can easily take Phantom’s place in this current patch. Hero doesn’t have good mobbing but they make up for it bossing wise.
@@marble8519 their bossing may be good but the video is about well rounded classes not best bossers Phantoms bossing can be amazing and can mob on any map in the game basically which puts it well above hero in terms of being well rounded
@@CHL2002 Well if you want to put it like that, I’d say any characters which is super well funded can do well in the game.
@@marble8519 i never once mentioned funding but if you are putting it like that you are contradicting your original statement what i said is that hero in no way deserved to replace phantom on this list as they excel at bossing but have horrible mobbing thus making them a bossing oriented class more than an all rounder class your argument makes no sense
hey coppersan what're your thoughts on like group party questing, there used to be all these party quests but no one wants to do them because they're not as rewarding anymore. I feel like I hit a brick wall in the game where there's not much to do anymore sadly except grind level up. Maybe you can get your word out to the maple GM's tell them about this concern because they certainly won't listen to the general public.
i miss party quests too. it was the best thing about maplestory back then
informative, thanks coppersan!
Coppersan what do you think about the CM finding clp incident?
Hello, may I know where you posted the spreadsheet? thanks =D
idk if I'm just biased but I think Shade should have been on this list...or did you just forget him?
Where can I find the pathfinder on the list? I would rate that over phantom no doubt
I’d agree on this 1, I think PF currently had the better kit compared to Phantom.
Great video, could you make a part 2 for the next 10 classes on you're list?
honestly, although not the greatest class... the beast tamer is VERY well rounded
Can you do what classes are the best at things sir?
So Coppersan I think dawn warrior belong in the top 5
are you going to do a phantom 1 to 200? it's my favorite class and have watched your speedrun of getting it to 200 and wondering if youll do a regular 1 to 200 of it
OK but what about jett tho
Coppersan mentioning i-frames
Me: "Welp, Bowmasters aint definitely on this list."
Thats why you Play marksman
@@kaguramikazuchi8243 Nah, MM is reliant on placement. I just wanna go brrrrrrrr.
can we get a link to that spreadsheet?
I think that Kanna should not be in number one, clearly, Pink Bean is superior in roundness... amazing video otherwise tho
hmm i really want to ask about kaiser im an old player and made a comeback some months ago
i did raise my range to 10m clean ( around 14-18 buffed) but i find it hard to keep with the new bosses even hard gollux become hard for me
so want to know if i should change it to another warrior type like DS , or is it me who playing it wrong ?
Kaiser can be very strong however sadly alot of other warriors out shine it. Also bossing has a lot more factors than just range e.g. boss damage and ied the later of which is extremely important in late game bossing as how need a certain amount of ied to actually damage the bosses in the first place.
@@CHL2002 actually im not sure how much ied i need and for boss dmg still low like 250%
but kaiser not great on term of surviving like other warrior classes also no binding
the only thing that stopping me from starting new right now is the level of my arcane symbol
i hope i can change class without start new
@@deviltiger00 My boss damage is below 200% and i can solo hellux most high level bosses your functional ied needs to be over 90% to damage them properly and if you are on non-reboot i believe you can transfer arcane symbols (with a bit of loss to them) to other characters if you really wish to change classes
Does Coppersan ever mention Bowmaster aside from dedicated archer videos and his rather horrible no hookshot lv 250 non edited video?
You didn't thank me for "tuning in again" :,(
Kanna is which skill?
Second? Nice. Also like this concept for a video
blasters didnt make it? :[
Well i tried zero before and i can say that some people would look at the keyboard instead of the screen...
Is there a way to make demon slayer double jump up with alt instead of the up arrow key?
AutoHotKey, run as administrator a script for the desired behavior.
What about Lara?
I started maining Demon Slayer because of your videos! they don't fit the Warrior stereotype at all, very versatile and mobile
Omg...maplestory 😭❤ I haven't played in 12 or 13 years and ima start again!!! I used too play with my hermit and whatever else after 😂 what would people recommend? Demon slayer?
I just watched hella videos from this man. Love the content amazing. 100000% ! And the fact he takes time to heart everyone's comment is beyond amazing !
Sorry for a stupid question, what is the means of ?
Iframes, or invincibility frames, have a purpose mostly in bossing. With most bosses nowadays doing %damage or even 1 shotting with some attacks, an can make the difference between you dying and you living. They also, if long enough, make you able to not worry about some tricky attacks to focus on doing damage instead of dodging
@@xDerpiicity understood
Thanks bro!
you forgot best boi canonneer
Can I Kanna?
Great vid
*cries in Noblesse*
when ur looking for a new class to try but kanna is #1 so you stay kanna. ggez
I vouch for hayato come on! My main was hayato!
DB 4 mobbing really????
ARAN LET'S GOOOOO
Anyone miss the old school maple story?.... no ok
i didn’t know adele can float o-o
Double tap the up arrow while in midair
FUCK IT I'M BURNING A KANNA
Damn I'm early
xd
all is fun that statement is false not demon avenger boringgggggg
Blaster and Paladin ? Kanna be like I'm gonna end all of their career
Let’s all be honest here, Kanna needs to be nerfed lol
hell no, kanna best class
@@xbon1 if you have no brain 😏
tbh
at this point, they should 100% remove kanna from the game