The Biggest Lie Told About Kobe
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Let’s also consider the options kobe had to pass to for 6 of his seasons
Shaquille O’Neal? Pau Gasol?
@@PHXNKVHXLIC between shaq leaving and pau arriving and then after 408274 year old Steve nash ankle exploded and Dwight wanting to be a Hollywood star and not a hooper
adam morrison top 10 all time
@@jarenweber7352 we respect Adam Morrison around here 💯🤌
@@ryleerichter804the closest we got to Larry Legend
You know what’s not a lie, is that Russell Westbrook is Averaging a triple double
not this year
@@eshannayak6457 you right but close tho 18 7 7
This year he gone be averaging his account balance when the Lakers finally give up and release him for that 41 mil.
Yep
@@afghan_senju5616 Does that make Bron have the most triple double seasons then? LeStatPadder
The defensive rating stuff is tricky to measure, and that comment at the end lacks a bit of context for this season.
Bucks Defensive Rating was 111.8, ranked 14th. Lakers had a 113.3, ranked 21st. There's also a 1 point differential between the Bucks and 76ers, who have a 110.8 rating and are only 2 spots ahead of the Bucks. The top 10 this year has a range from 106.9 to 110.5. The bottom 10 has a range of 113 to 116.9. So a 1 point difference could matter in some context, but overall on a per season basis, the numbers can be all over the place.
Why are people still using FG% in 2022? It’s a redundant stat and it’s got nothing to do with scoring efficiency
Also FG% is taken way out of context. LeBron has a high FG% because most of his shots are inside the paint, whether it be dunks or layups. Kobe’s shots were much more diverse in selection.
@@B345T1N355Official Exactly
@Jim Book Not saying it is a bad thing, but considering LeBron is taller and more athletic than Kobe, LeBron's game has been mostly inside, like toward the paint, especially when in the 2000s it was commonplace to double team the star player. LeBron took advantage of his athleticism when he was getting double teamed, Kobe used his footwork and fundamentals to hit fadeaways on opponents, theoretically, the closer you are to the basket, the higher probability you have of making the basket. Kobe was playing against some of the greatest defensive teams in NBA history, and scoring in that era was low all around, in comparison to today and back in the 80s.
“mmm gotchu gotchu gotchu… y’all understand that? probably not”
Man I miss Kobe so much can't believe he's gone RIP mamba 24💛💜
How u miss him that much? Were you a close friend? People taking it overboard man RIP'ing kobe like he your brother or something like that. Yes, it's unfortunate that he's gone but damn people don't act like this when they have family pass away.
@@AtlanticCanadianAstronomy 🤨
@@AtlanticCanadianAstronomy let the man bruh
@@AtlanticCanadianAstronomy bro what are you on u a hater dawg its someone I used to watch everyday and whenever u seen him he loved his children his wife he loved everybody and was good at basketball whenever he was on tv he was a good person he'd always make everyone happy and have a good time why do you thing so many nba legends where tragically hurt when he died he gave them motivation to if you seen him rn today in real life u would ask for a picture he's a inspiration to the world
@@Kobedailyy he was also a rapist
Kobe is top 5 stop the slander he got 5 rings, 30 k points, 81 points in a game, scored 40 on every franchise, has a 5 minute highlight of hitting game winners
Jordan,Lebron,Kareem,Magic, Bryant, Duncan, Bird, Curry, Wilt(or hakeem) Russel. Russel should not be removed from top ten
Top 6 Tim is better.
@@simrock8893tim and Kobe are both top 5
People fr getting mad that Kobe’s a top 10 player ever is crazy. Like, don’t put him too high, don’t put him too low, put him where he belongs
Exactly
So that's why I don't believe that too. That guy is always double team. Yeah, I'm named after Kobe so I have this emotional attachment but still, that guy is the main focal point of the defense. And in his fashion, he will still shoot it, and friggin make it.
Shot under 47% his entire career
@@jakestockton16478 its crazy u came to this video and decided to comment without even watching the video lmfaoooo peak hater shit
Bro everyone in the top ten of all time was the focus of opponent's defense. He is a top 5 player slightly better than Duncan
@@jakestockton16478 that’s really good for a 20 year career bro
Kobe is inefficient. His whole career should be counted for career rankings. You can’t pick and choose which years
Kobe is inefficient in comparison to the people he's in conversations with for top 5/10 players of all time.
Watching his finals runs in 04/08/10 he took and missed some insanely stupid shots that resulted in losses/close win in 10 with Artest/Gasol stepping up big time.
True. Kobe is an all time great but he is just slightly better than Tim duncan. LBJ and Jordan are better than him
I mean he's missed insanely stupid shots his entire career and yet has had immense success. 2004 finals was a big blemish on his career but its somewhat understandable when you consider he was dealing with the SA case during that period. Bro was apparently going to court and then showing up minutes before playoff games, so I think that cuts him a little bit of slack but it doesn't completely remove that stain. 2008 was one of the tougher finals he went to cause he played a more talented boston roster and they were pretty outmatched considering pau gasol was also performing poorly. 2010 is a hard finals to rate as well because he was playing that entire playoffs with injury. His knee was fucked up where he had to get injections cause his cartilage was basically gone. And he had a broken finger, and was coming off a plethora of injuries he suffered earlier.
He had a broken finger on his shooting hand too n a bone spur in his ankle.
8:07 Eleventy-five is crazy
Fax
“if he had knees” 🤣🤣🤣
Biggest lie is that Disney makes us believe in happy ever afters.
True
Kobe legit built different
It's so odd, because I I agree that Kobe Bryant was more efficient then majority of basketball discourse tends to think... yet LOW is so stupid when it comes to framing this argument. I genuinely think he has zero clue on how to use these stats successfully. Not to mention he's cares about legacy for some guys but uses stats for others. He should be gushing over KD with these empty stats without context.
Greatest Laker of all time
If magic and kareem died. They'd be the greatest laker of all time
That is indeed correct.
No
@@danilohernandez6617 no you could argue best but fs not greates
@@krozlyvassos3169 Kobe gave more to the Organization.
You know what the truth is the truth is that steph curry’s offense is his defense
U cant be inefficient and win 5 championships
john havlicek shot 43% from the field and has 8 rings lol
@@lilsleepy3332 hall of fame
@@andrewphipps5265 sure but he wasn’t particularly efficient
Yes you absolutely can be considering you can never play an actual minute and win a ring every year
@@lilsleepy3332 if Kobe was in the 60s he would have 17 rings and 17 mvps
Bro so far these clips in the background wtf is Kobe doing I’ve never seen anyone do these random ass shots
Curry shooting from 30+ to over halfcourt: 😅
@@bearwithme9433 oh that’s true
@@bearwithme9433 but I feel like now that’s just casual for me seeing I’m ngl like if curry made a half court shit on a buzzer beater I would still keep a straight face
RUclips needs to seriously star doing something about these damn bots
HOFer if he had…. KNEEEZ
It's ya boy Bubble Bass
Kobe is a top 5 player calling Kobe inefficient don’t make no sense in my opinion
Top 10 ye, 5 is a reach
@@ArthPedro this is my favorite parts about leaving all time player rankings comments the debates but I wanna know why do u think Kobe is top 10 but not top 5?
@@dragonfire4245 Kobe is my all-time favourite player, his lack of major individual accolades and comparative stats put him outside the top 5, 6-10 is the best range for him
@@jonjuko8859 okay now that is something I can understand but I think at the end of the day we can all agree Kobe is one of the greatest to ever do it so who cares about rankings let’s just appreciate the art behind Kobe’s game
@@dragonfire4245 absolutely
For all the people that are saying "yes but he had good TS% because of free throws" free throws are part of the game, going a lot to the free throw line and making the shot Is the best way tonget points in basketball, this argument Is nonsense, i don't care if you like more the pump fake One leg fadeaway that goes in because Who shot that Is One of the greatest ever and if anyone of US tries that shit ends up on the floor face First. Going a lot to the line and scoring free throws Is the most useful skill in basketball.
But a lot of that is just getting calls, and the decisions that he made often were a detriment to his team though overall he was highly skilled. Kobe remains largely overrated by his fans because they ignore the plethora of dumb decisions and playoff inconsistency that nobody considered for the top 5 has. He is probably top 10, but he’s on the lower end and not in the GOAT convo.
@@youtubegm8256 every great player has made dumb decisions in the playoffs lol, why do we only care when kobe does it. magic lost 4 times in the finals. Kobe has a higher winning percentage in the finals than, Shaq, Magic, Curry, and Bird; also he's beaten more 50 win teams than any great that you can name. Also no one scored 600 pts for three consecutive postseasons. Kobe was the face of the league for a minute, and was being compared to jordan daily. Then once he retires all these people come out the woodwork and say hes barely 10 and duncan was better, like where tf yall come from?
@@CamPacLBC Kobe played with very complete teams in his prime, he wasn’t the best player in most of the Finals, and Magic and Kareem have as many Finals wins with better Finals showings. Kobe’s raw skill was phenomenal, but he was second fiddle to Shaq and then became a smarter player which is why he won 2 FMVPs later. It’s like how Westbrook triple doubles mean less than regular triple doubles. Kobe’s scoring inefficiency is a major drawback, but it does not mean he wasn’t overall great. It is still something his delusional fans ignore that prevents him from being top 5 ever. He never was the clear cut best player in the league either. It was Shaq and then LeBron most of the time.
@@CamPacLBC Oddly enough his best seasons weren’t rewarded with an MVP.
@@youtubegm8256 most those dudes played with complete teams lol magic and kareem had seasons with james worthy being an all star while b scott avg 20. why are you only cherry picking kobe. Dennis rodman avg like 18 reb a game with jordan, how many 20 ppg scorers has lebron had wtf
1:50 this has to be the biggest excuse for a bad fg% I've ever heard.
It's not an excuse it's fax
@@malrulesall9669 it's always an excuse for Kobe you gotta remove seasons and ignore facts to prove why he not inefficient
I think the thing of kobe being inefficient is because he shot the ball a lot.
yes, and if we look at LeBron, who’s allegedly more efficient than Kobe, most of LeBron’s shots were inside the paint whether it be layups or dunks
Yeah they said efficiency is about who can score the most points on the least attempts after just saying Kobe has the most misses in nba history so idk
After watching the rest of the video you have to give Kobe more prop tho
Well ofc that’s what happens when you have the ball just like lebron has the most turnover’s in nba history doesn’t mean lebron isn’t good at playmaking or passing
@@wrdsector978 they will never mention this
Why does LOW get to pick and choose only his prime years? Career rankings are about CAREERS
Bruh he is using TS% and PER to judge if player is efficient lmfao
Center who avg 10 and 10 can have higher PER than guard with 25/5/5 lmfao and ts% is bs cuz if you shoot 4/17 from field with 12/12 FTs you have better ts than someone who shoot 11/17 with lets say 4/6 fts
Yes, because free throws are actually more difficult than dunks. Shocking I know. In that example, the first player had to score their points at a father distance. If the second player shot more threes, the true shooting percentage would be higher. But anything to hate on Kobe right?
I’m almost 100% sure that you’re math is not working out in the TS player comparison. Maybe if the first player made all 3s and the second player made all 2s. But even then the first player would have 24 points on the game and the second would have 26. So yea I’m pretty sure you’re tripping.
FTs are harder than dunks and open layups bro and they are very efficient shot when you are truly good at it because you can score point with the clock isn't running and get your opponent in foul trouble . Very bad argument on your side.
A lot of players had more point and assist but Kobe had a way better shooting procentenge and less turnovers, and he werent stat padding
Most missed shots ever. most missed shots in a game. And in his last few seasons, he was 100% stat padding as instead of focusing on the young guys, they gave Kobrick his stupid ass farewell tour.
@@jakestockton16478 Kobe is literally the last person to statpad. He gave up a scoring title in the last game of the season when he told his coach to sit him out after the third quarter after knowing the game was already won. Stop being ignorant and do dome research before commenting such bs
@@Seek_Solitude exactly 💯
@@jakestockton16478 Wat, he doesnt have most shots missed on a game. Thats just factually wrong.
Kobe was an average shooter for the time, with league adjusted FG% of 101 and a 3PT% of 94 fro teh 2000-2013 range
Just remember, curry’s offense is his defense
Nigga that ain’t make sense, saw the same guy say the same shit on TikTok and he got clowned on for saying non sense
@@Bryan2k04 it's a Bit that Solz And Sage started.
@@07ProdPhilly who tf are those bums all that matter is that Russ averaged a triple mf double 😈😈😈
@@Bryan2k04 kendrick perkins started it
@@Bryan2k04 r/whoosh
HIS BAG IS ‘EFFIN DIFFERENT!!!!!!!!! RIP KOBE BEAN
Rip the 3rd best player of all time……
Everyone forgot that Kobe was in the goat debate with everyone until about 4 years ago
Rip to him, but you're just overrating him saying he's 3rd smh, just gonna forget about Kareem?
@@Joe6080 I place Duncan above him. However, it's interchangeable between him, Duncan, Moses Malone, Curry, and Shaq. Whoever put him over LeBron or Kareem in the top 3 is just using eye test which is biased as hell. My opinion is biased but can be backed up with each player history and achievement.
@@hijisfriend9030 moses malone? Are you are you crazy
@@akfoutyseven4284 nope, I'm sane enough to include someone who has 3x MVP, 12x All-star, 1 championship and the greatest run ever done by an 8 seeds in NBA.
@@hijisfriend9030 my brother in christ moses malone's legacy is not on the level of duncan, shaq, or even curry
Kobe in like Larry Bird tier, magic better than both
So is Lebron inefficient because he has the most turnovers of all time???
That’s gonna be a conversation in the future oh boy
@@spoodyR3 fr 🤦🏾♂️😭
He copied Jordan whole style & blew a 3-1 lead to Phoenix also snitched on shaq real Goats don't blow 3-1 leads
Larry bird is better then magic. Because magic had Kareem Larry had himself
Spoken a like true person who definitely wasn’t around to watch 80s basketball and didn’t even do the due diligence to to give a more informed take.
Not finna cap I was one of the people saying he was inefficient but now I just look stupid
glad you came to your senses, and if you thought kobe was inefficient, youre lucky you werent watching basketball in the mid 2000s cuz you'd probably be calling a lot of other players inefficient as well
@Jim Book compared to today yeah, but no one cared at the time that AI was winning scoring titles shooting like 40 percent lol
Yoooo u asked Kobe not top 10 bad bad take
Tbh I never knew what you looked like until today
A lot of MMMMMM’s in LOWs video
Seein gen z’s try to talk about these players is hilarious. Y’all started watching in 2016 shut up lmao
With that said watch Kobe against Detroit in 04 and tell me he was an efficent player.. to be fair that was one playoff series, but it was easily one of his worst (thanks to Detroit correctly analyzing the rift between Kobe and Shaq and deciding to guard Shaq straight up.. causing Shaq to get buckets early in games and Kobe getting jealous; chucking terrible shots. It totally worked and the pistons got the chip)
That was an objectively bad series for Kobe but to extrapolate his entire career based on that series is stupid. That's the equivalent of me saying Kobe is the best player every by extrapolating his 2010 WCF series against the Sns.
@@Naplamguy2015 agreed
@@Naplamguy2015mostly just wanted to
💪 for the going to work pistons
What about lebron against the mavs 💀 or the spurs the second time with the heat 💀 bro lost to retirement homes
@@Naplamguy2015 exactly
Jordan Lebron Kareem Wilt Magic Bird Duncan shaq Dream curry Russell are better than kobe
LOW sucks at using stats. If your year by year FG%, 3P%, and eFG% are below or at the corresponding nba avgs of that year it doesn’t look like your that efficient. Kobe needed 8 FTA a game to be efficient per TS%. Efficiency isn’t just 1 stat. You need multiple corresponding stats to paint the picture. If Kobe doesn’t get to the line, he’s not efficient. Which is why he’s shot himself out of finals like 2004/2008 and Shaq rescued his ass in 2000/2001 finals. If he still wants to use this idiotic stat argument here your go. Steph shot like shit in the 2016 finals and still had a higher TS% than Kobe did in all but one of his finals appearances (2002). So that right there shows a weakness in the TS% argument.
lol
@@andrewphipps5265 Lol. Broke that shit down efficiently. No lies told😂
FT is part of scoring, that's why it's counted, are you dumb? TS% weighs scoring of any value (1, 2, 3 points accordingly)
What you're saying is like "LeBron won't be as efficient if we don't count his shots around the basket".
take free throws away from every scorer and their efficiency goes down. Getting to the free throw line is an efficient style of play. And true shooting should only be compared relative to era so idk why you comparing 01 Kobe to 16 curry.
You’re literally cherrypicking to make his stats worse. And obviously Steph will have a better TS% dickhead he shoots the most three in nba history and is the best shooter ever no player pre 2015 era should have a TS% that’s comparable and yet Kobe still did it in 2002 according to your logic. And let’s not even mention who played against in those finals and what he averaged right?
Zaddyy 🤤😩
Hi clique
I wonder if they did TSP without free throws (Kobe was a good FT shooter) would the shooting percentages be any different?
TLDR: do TSP minus FT% and see this experiment.
I don’t miss
If Kobe is too 15 lebron is Top 30
People who don't have Kobe in their top 5 are just teens that never saw the man. Same dudes that have Wilt or Russ in their top 3 like dude stop
And people from that time can also say "People who don't have Wilt/Russel in their top 5 just never saw them"
the man is *not* better than Bird and Magic reriosuly
@@DonSMDT better than bird but not better than magic
@@simple45679 That's what I said. The people who never saw Wilt or Russ have them in top 3. How? Makes no sense. They just go off media narratives, never actually watching the game.
@@simrock8893 Bird > Magic imo. Magic played with Kareem, a true GOAT candidate. Not saying Magic isn't top 10, but accolades and stats can be inflated by Kareem alone.
His all NBA selections after his physical decline that he won by reputation?
Or his reputation as a clutch shooter?
yes
here’s why kobe was actually efficient
*cherrypicks stats from a 13 year period of his 20 year career & compares his efficiency to league average rather than his peers directly*
he did compare him to his peers directly. He compared him to both Duncan and KG who Kobe was more efficient than.
It's like you didn't even watch the video😭😭
Twitter ruined y'all lmaooo
But he did compare them and Kobe was actually found to be more efficient than Duncan and KG. Get over it.
@@hariss5705 i dont have twitter. kobe wasnt wholly inefficient but compared to the greats, he is.
@@dr.boolin8296 he only compared them on TS%. pretty telling when you have to compare a guard to bigs on a stat that includes FT% to pretend he was efficient. why doesnt he compare Kobe’s TS% to Curry’s? because he can’t. why doesnt he compare Kobe to those bigs on FG%? because he can’t. its cherrypicking.
The biggest lie told about Kobe is that he didn't do it
common clique w
Tim is not close to kobe
Doesn't tim have better accolades and is arguably the best power forward?
Yeah he is way better
@@bearwithme9433 arguably? Undoubtedly.
it's close, chill out.
@@simple45679 how is it close Kobe is better
i have kobe at 2
Y’all were 10 years old. You don’t know what you’re talking about , and didn’t “ watch him “ like you claim. KOBE IS NOT TOP TEN.
Not only if you watched , but the numbers don’t lie.
One mvp. .. that’s it.
Wasn’t the best player on the court for 4 out of 5 rings.
NBA purposely propped him up after MJ left , sent him to the line 15 times a game and had a sprite commerical for him after. If Kobe stayed in Charlotte , he is tmac.
Y’all were ten. Acting like experts. Stop it.
For real, I was a Lakers' fan from Shaq and Kobe, through to the Pau Gasol years. I saw Kobe at his best, and he was inefficient. Part of it was the times, hero ball was popular even if it is the worst form of basketball.
And part of it is comparing Kobe to MJ, to Lebron, and to other top 10 players. Kobe was inefficient compared to them. And comparing him to Ray Allen and Klay Thompson, who are 3 point shooters, which is a lower percentage shot, is the video trying to be dishonest.
Look You may believe kobe may not be top 10 best player may not be the best at his position may not be the best at ANYTHING but it's not about the top 10 best players in the world it's about the top 10 GREATEST Player in the world, The mamba mentality and the way he paved the way for the modern era is just that great. If you take away kobe bryant from the history of the league, I don't believe ANY of the top players in the league right now would be as good and great as they are right now. Kobe is great not in the way he was on the court but he was great outside of the court. If you're just talking about best players while I personally have kobe at 6 behind bird and magic and the other guys but he definitely would not be top 5 or 4 if it was just purely about on court.🤷♂
@@shorewall if Kobe playstyle was so inefficient then why did he win 5 rings . More than the "GOAT" and Stephen Curry 🤔?
@@shorewall if Kobe didn't exist the Lakers would've been a bottom dweller team in the early 2000s and thats a fact
Kobe got robbed of 2 MVPs from Steve Nash
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Duncan got carried his entire career
I hope ur trolling😭🤥🤥
Is bro deadass right now 😂
I was here 😎
1 mj 2 bron 3 Kobe peop!e say magic better is so funny
its simply true
@@KADE.7it simply isn't but ok
All these Kobe fans in the comments have the most ridiculous takes and replies. Y’all don’t know basketball
Nigga you're pfp is literally Kobe
Kobe just took so many shots and barely passed so that’s why he has the most misses of all time.
Also put things into context, man was playing with some bums before he got Gasol, he had to do it himself. I'm not complaining about Lebron's 2018 runs when he had to just do it himself but why people gotta hate on Kobe for that tho?
@@danilohernandez6617 kobe also had shaq previously
@@_SayitAintSo Of course he has had help in career but he also has had plenty of moments where he lacked the help that plenty of other super stars didn't get.
"Barely passed"
He Averaged 5 assists in his 12 season peak bro. Yeah hes not lebron but hes an underrated playmaker
Kobe is a great passer but he doesn’t like to pass.
I personally think Kobe’s overrated
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Kobe will never be my goat Steph Curry
curry aint even top 10
@@KADE.7 u tripping he definitely top 10 now
@@KADE.7 nurn bigger
@@KADE.7 curry is the goat he changed the game unlike Gambling addict Jordan, Stat Padder LeBum, and Rap1st Kobe
@@lolcryler1 without jordan the nba might not exist lebron is way above curry and he again changed the game. by making the nba relevant idek where you got that kobe one considering it was a lie but kobe is one of the most dominant scorers ever what has curry done to change the game? nothing aside from making super teams common and don’t you dare say 3pt shots cuz that was kobe dame and ray allen who did that
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Kobe is hella overrated
And hella underrated
How is he overrated
And you're hella slow