Reacting To JxmyHighroller's NBA Hot Takes
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What people don't realize about the term "superteam" is that its literally a term created to put pressure on a top level player to win. We call the Celtics and Lakers teams of old "superteams" but in hindsight. Jordan Pippen Rodman Bulls is not considered a superteam (superstar / all star / all star caliber role player) but LeBron / Kyrie / Love is which is inconsistent. We use Kevin Love's pre Cleveland accomplishments to try and mark him as a all star player, however, Jrue holiday who was an all star pre milwaukee doesn't make Giannis Middleton Holiday a superteam. Thunder with Russ Melo and PG is apparently not a superteam with 3 former all stars within 1-2 years of being on the team but Brooklyn Nets is a Superteam? Point I'm tryna make is superteam label really just used as a weapon to deter top players from leaving their team (hence why it is attached to KD and LeBron) but when we speak on Giannis or even Curry its absent or in Curry's case there's always a clarification that it was "his team"
I ain’t gonna lie I ain’t readin all that
The bulls aren't a superteam because they only had 2 stars jordan and pippen cause rodman aint considered a "all star" caliber player the last time he was labeled a star was 4 years before joining the bulls but with the cavs team they are a superteam because all of them joined as a star caliber player kyrie was a star averaging 22, love averaging 26 and 12, was in the mvp race averaging 26 7 8 and all of them were all stars before joining together which is why they're a superteam. With that logic the bucks aint a superteam cause the last time holiday was considered a all star was 8 yrs before joining the bucks and they only got 2 stars which is Giannis and middleton while the thunder are a superteam as just like the cavs russ, melo, PG were all stars before joining together. Curry's team before KD joining was a different kind of superteam having Steph, Klay, Draymond 3 all star caliber player was because they drafted them all of the previous superteam got formed because they traded for a star but when KD joined they're now labeled as a superteam like the cavs
Kevin was an all star in Cleveland twice
@@GigaGorilla348 ong
bro wrote an essay
16:29 mike conley catching strays with that make a wish all star comment 😂
Anybody else notice how they had kyrie listed as a SUPERSTAR But harden an all star?
and how he called kyrie as a superstar….and then kyrie as an all star 😂😂
and mike conley was an all star and jrue a fringe all star
@@biglargeguy7085 different seasons
@@ryleyb3256 because I those seasons that’s what they were mike Conley got the injury replacement and jrue was almost an all star
I think it’s maybe because James is more out of his prime
Dear NBA community, saying someone had it easy cause their opponents were old is a weak argument. If age was what made the team weak, how did they get to the finals?
The community pushes agendas like I push shopping carts. The people that say that are the same that call the geriartic Lakers a superteam.
Ran out of gas in the end lol
@@XxDiam0ndzXx The only person in the Lakers starting lineup over 30 was Magic Johnson at 31. Most would consider that the tail end of a player's prime. Not old, yet. The others were 29 and younger. The Lakers weren't old. Their average age was 28.09.
Looks like it was the same with the Blazers. One starter over 30, the rest 29 or younger. Their average age was 28. People gotta stop repeating what they hear other people say.
You know what's crazy? The '91 Lakers and '92 Trailblazers actually have a younger overall age than the '93 Suns, '96 Sonics, and '97/'98 Jazz.
@@jaym8988 meanwhile in the 98 NBA Finals the Bulls started Jordan who was 35, Pippen who was 32, Longley who was 29, Kukoc who was 29 and Harper who was 34. They Had Rodman as their sixth man who was 37. That is an old ass team and they still won in six games so yeah those excuses about the Lakers and Trailblazers being old is indeed crazy.
One thing I'll say about the superstar point (dunno if clique said it, I paused it before he comments on it) is that saying 2016 Kyrie is an all-star, 2016 Lebron is a superstar and then ranking 2022 Kyrie as a superstar, Devin Booker a superstar, Donovan Mitchell a superstar gives the impression that the 2022 Ky, Donovan and Book are closer to Lebron than 2016 Ky is close to them, I'd argue 2016 Ky is just as good if not better than them.
Plus he says it as if the Nets weren't a superteam. Like, yeah they were, they failed, and there are such things as failed superteams, but they were, at the time James went there he was considered top 5, so was KD and Ky wasn't far behind.
Oh damn I didn't know Peja is 6'10" GD! I thought he was like 6'7" 6'6"
He shoots like he’s 6’2/6’3 so I feel you
The thing is, Love was All-NBA in 2014 the year before he joined the Cavs, and Kyrie was in 2015. Those are not Fringe all-stars. Those are great players who took back seats to LeBron and when not on his team could be top 15 players in the league. This is why just using All-star as a ranking is pointless, otherwise the 2015 Hawks would be one of the greatest teams of all time with 4 all stars.
exactly!
True. For example: Khris Middleton has the potential to be a star and carry a team, but has always been held back by Giannis. But we saw what he could do in the playoffs when Giannis took a step back a bit. Its not hard to see Middleton as a bradley beal type player but we don't think about because he's always been Giannis's wingman.
@@AnikethBandi Khris isn’t good to be a number 1 option
@@Youniquegamer Well that perception is part of my point. We dont think he's good enough because he hasn't gotten the opportunity to be one. He's always been behind giannis. But when you look at the playoffs and when its chris's time to takeover. He's damn near unstoppable. He's shown he has the abilities to be one, but can show taking on the role in action. Again by the original comments message: These players who have shown they can be great players take a step back to complement the better star.
OR, they were what Barkley calls 'looters in a riot.' They put up great numbers on mostly losing teams. K Love padded his stats and got called out for it. He would not rotate on D just so he could position himself for rebounds if the shooter happened to miss. I guess you had to be there...
Put some more respect on K-Love man, he was one of the great PFs of this era. He just had the misfortune of being wasted by the Wolves for so many years
Fr. I just rewatch that game where he put up 31 pts and 31 boards, bro was insane in Minnesota
Man I love your thumbnails. 🥴🥴🥴
My hottest take is Dorian Finney-Smith is a less athletic less defensively talented Michael Kidd-Gilchrist with a good jump-shot
Kind of true
I've always defined superteams as a team where at least 3 big name stars join a team together like the 10 heat and the 08 celtics because in music a supergroup is a band comprised of multiple independently successful artists
Fun fact half the best players in the nba today were born in 88
I always heard "superteam" as coming from the classic rock term "supergroup", which didn't so much mean great as it meant putting a collection of already established musicians put together with the intention of being great
clique is a casual
a reminder that k love averaged 8.5pts in the finals on 36% from the field as a center. he was a role player with lebron.
Theres no way in hell luka has a 38in vert tf outta here😂😂
💀😂😂
Make this is nostalgic, I can't believe Weird Al is commenting on basketball videos!
Super teams:
- 60's celtics (10 rings)
- 80's lakers (5 rings)
- 80's celtics (3 rings)
- 90's bulls (3 rings) with rodman they were, without him it was just a duo
- 00's lakers (3 rings) maybe not idk
- 00's spurs (4 rings) kinda organic tho, so idk if it counts as a superteam
- 00's celtics (1 ring)
- 10's heat (2 rings)
- 10's cavs (1 ring)
- 10's warriors (3 rings) the first one was organic in 2015. two durant teams are obviously superteams, and then so is this year's, cause they flipped Durant for Russell, and flipped Russell for Wiggins, they have 4 all stars in the starting 5, and they're paying millions in luxury tax
- 20's Nets (first super team to not win a ring)
16:30 Make a wish all star had me almost die
I like how he said Donovan Mitchell as superstar as if he’s on lebron level….
A super team is a team with two mvp caliber players with one all-star
the Barry take wasn't talking about all timenbut how good they were in that season, so it doesn't matter how good they are all time
That part on Karl-Anthony Towns was silly. Taking points away because his share of shots from midrange to 3 and beyond isn’t as high as Matt Bonner and Davis Bertans? Bruh this is just silly.
"If this is the criterion for a team to be called a Superteam".
He said that directly after saying LeBron, Kyrie and Kevin Love were a Superstar, All-star and Fringe All-star, respectively.
So, the only arguments that actually matter are whether Kyrie and Kevin Love were Superstars and not just All-Stars.
Alright Alright Alright Alright
Hot take: what if we considered a superteam having 2 top 15 players and an all-star? I think that's more realistic and actually league breaking.
I think a better point about Lebrons cavs not being a super team is that Kevin live was literally a traffic cone in the nba finals. 2016 Kevin love can not be one of the big three on a super team. He was a great shooter, but he was not as effective as his 2011 self.
He was worse than the third player on any of those big threes that Jimmy mentioned
3:31 got to be the funniest shit ever
Imagine trading 8 players for gobert just to beat ja morant 🤣🤣
brooo when you gone post nba 2k23 mycareer content
13:49 I’m guessing the list was Basely of greatness not skill during that season
hello ClipProductions
Bro said mike Conley was a make a wish all star 💀
I feel like jimmy’s videos are mostly him explaining something that is common sense
That's one of the reason why I don't watch him
He does do that, and then he's STILL plain wrong half the time anyway. He's a really bad youtuber, tbh. Just not very intelligent. All he knows how to do is make charts and edit his videos in a flashy manner. It's all flash, no substance.
@@thareelhelloagain over a million subs too
@@wipe919 What about it?
@@thareelhelloagain I'm saying he got a mil subs just saying basic shit
Lebron Second stint with the cavs was dangerous they jus had to deal with the league changing with Curry
16:46 I'm not with you on this one. You go to any team's reddit, they will likely say "our big 3." A big three is the 3 best players on their team. Sure. If you aren't a fan of that team, you know that there's only one big on that team, but Ibig 3 is subjective, now. Many people wouldn't consider Draymond to be a big 3, but he is the third of that core.
To clear up my point, if you put any big (not a big man, but big of any big 2/3/4 etc.) on any team, it changes that teams trajectory from tanking to playoffs, or playoffs to contender.
The 2022 Warriors are only a superteam because they have Wilt Chamberlain the III (Otto Porter Jr)
me personally I think if you're gonna list the best players going into the 1988 season and 2023 season you need to view it with respect to their career up to that point to give the upcoming season best players a fair shake. And doing that lowers how high of regard we hold players like Chuck and Karl Malone. Moses Malone was declining for sure coming into the 1988-89 season as was Kareem which was expected but he was clearly declining. Everyone else at that point was either amazing out the gate Like Mj and Hakeem or already an established force like Magic, Larry, and Thomas. Don't get me wrong they were all great players with amazing careers, but in terms of how well they were to perform in the 1988-89 season there were some that weren't viewed as great or as really good as Guys like Luka, Jokic, and Embiid as they're all currently some of the best with one being a multi time top two MVP runner up and one being a two time MVP. Luka just being first team all NBA 3 times in 4 seasons.
Edit:
If he's just talking greatest career and not loaded as in their ability to be impactful in that coming season then What I said stands minus Moses and Kareem. And In order to be fair the scratch out portion isn't really fair when comparing people now who's careers haven't finished to greats of the past while using their whole career instead of what's happened up until that season.
1. Lebron up to this point in his career or young MJ should easily go to Lebron
2. Larry over KD with arguably his best statistical season up to that point with an insane 30 9 and 6 on 50/40/90 splits for a team that went to the conference finals the season prior to 88-89
3. Magic uncontested
4. Joel over Kareem in terms of effectiveness ( Kareem wins in greatness )
5. Giannis over young Hakeem
6. Jokic over Moses in terms of effectiveness ( Moses wins in greatness )
7. Steph over Isiah is pretty fair
8. Kawhi at this point has accomplished more than Karl Malone did at that point in his career with only one all star selection and no rings meanwhile Kawhi at this point has 2 rings and 2 FMVPs and multiple All star selections
Charles Barkley at that point in his career if matched up even against Luka would probably be losing to Luka given Luka's insane ascension with 3 first team all NBA compared to Chuck's 1 1st team all NBA and 2 second team all NBA. Not to mention its probably the most fair one as they played the same number of season going into the 88-89 season and 22-23 season with 4. So even against the weakest link in the 22-23 season best players he's not better or greater up until that point.
9. Therefore Luka over Chuck
That's just my opinion though as the fairest way to Compare them and it would come out to
4 for 88-89 team in terms of greatness if you match Luka up to Charles instead of Magic Johnson as Magic damn near clears all of them and 5 for 22-23
But in terms of effectiveness its more lopsided in favor of 22-23 team with a 7 -2 as Moses was declining based on his play and Kareem was a shell of himself with Larry clearing KD and Magic defaulting in a more fair matchup spread.
To again clarify that just seems like the more fair way to compare them but that's me and that concludes my argumentative essay for the algorithm
Edit II: You definitely could argue it would be more fair to compare them based on the number of season they played with the current day player they're gonna be compared against as well but I like comparing it with the year splayed before the seasons that are most Stacked.
You realize that the guys on the 1988 roster that you are saying were looked at as worse than Luka and Embiid had already been on multiple all-nba first teams and had even been runners up for the MVP?
I don’t think you understand what you’re talking about.
Hot take: Tyler herro top5 guard in the next 5 seasons
Bruh shouldn't have got a haircut 😂🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
2022 > every other era. Sure you can compare the top 10, but compare the top 100 players in todays league vs the 1980s.. Not even close. And by result, generally a worse league makes the top crops stand out more. Harder to stand out in todays game
True 💯🤝
2022 warriors (as a fan myself) were not a super team its was steph curry ( u could argue klay or jp) and I bunch of players who could do there roles well -mabey a slight possibility of a big 3 but I dont even believe that-
You said "Coherent" I think you meant to say "Cohesive Group"
2017 warriors were a super team.
They had 4 all star out of which 1 was a future top 10 of all time. 2 MVP level players. A draymond whi was realllly good. And klay thompson who is one of the best 3pt shooter.
😳😳😳👀👀👀, Jimmy lost me with that super team take 💀😅😂
He forgot shaq for 1996!!!!
I think you meant cohesive..... not coherent
13:28
1988 v 2022
MJ (25) = Luka (23)
(The New soon to be face of the league and proven to be a force)
Bird (32) < KD (33)
( Talent wise KD over Bird, but they both had stacked teams for their chips)
Magic (29) > Curry (34)
( Same 4 tittles at this point, but Magic had a finals MVP already. We should respect Magic more if he did everything he did and averaged 7 points more he'd probably be the GOAT, this was back when Point Guards had to be Point Guards. And bro caught AIDS )
Kareem (41) < LeBron (38)
(The subject GOAT and more Finals MVPs at this point.)
Hakeem (25) > Embid (28)
( The two best Centers of their respective Era's, but Embid has had one memorable playoff run at This point)
Moses (33) > Jokic (27)
(Had his tittle at 28 & already 3 MVPs so unless Jokic winning the chip next year yea.)
Isaiah (27) = Kawhi (31)
( Had to fight for their 2 tittles in an Era dominated by two guys. Could say Kawhi had more/higher competition but Kawhi did end up with a "undeserved" Finals MVP & a bus rider championship
K.Malone (25) < Giannis (27)
(Giannis two time MVP, DPOY, Finals MVP, and champion. Achieved this all at 26. No Giannis Disrespect will be tolerated)
Apart from Kareem & Moses the guys in 1988 were younger so if your saying the league was more exciting sure.
But if not for COVID and injuries it would have been that way in 2019-2020
As far as 2022 we are leaving off Top 20 talent Hall of Fame guys like :
AD, Kyrie, Harden, CP3
and the guys who could go on to create Hall Of Fame legacies like:
Tatum, JA , Zion, Booker, Trae, KAT.
Joel Embiid is NOT the best center of his era. Jokic has two MVPs and a conference finals appearance to Embiid's none of either.
KD over Bird is a hot take and a half
Hot take : the Cleveland cavaliers 2023 is a super team
The Nets with Harden were definitely a super team. Just a failed one. The same way that the 2012-13 Lakers were a “failed” super team
Olajuwon definitely isn't a "concensus" top 10 player of all time even if people would put him there. Plenty wouldn't. He's still super good tho tbf
yea my mind doubled back when i heard that too especially cuz Jimmy didnt put him top 10 himself lol but hes close enough
Why he no like 2k23?
I only agree with like, one thing Jimmy said himself in this video, and that was that the only super team Bron had was the Heat. I agree bc in my opinion, a superteam has at least two guys who were the best guy on a contending team. Kyrie and KLove didnt touch the Playoffs until Lebron came back to the Cavs. Good stats on a bad team, which is not their fault, but superstars can make bad teams reach the playoffs bc of how good they are. Everything else felt like a bad argument or a casual take
Are you saying that you don't agree with Jimmy's opinion on the athletic and the top 8 nba player list? 🤨
@@saos_tartar the athletic one is obvious so I didnt mention it
but yes, I dont agree. Because he basically lied or finessed the argument. Barkley, BadMalone, Magic, Bird, IT, and MJ were the only ones that were actually still amazing then. Kareem and GoodMalone were no longer in their primes (Kareem was averaging 14 and retired the next year and was 40, Moses was the best player on that team but they were a first round exit and weren't even a .500 team and he average 20/10 even tho his prime was probably 79-87 when was like 26/14) Hakeems prime and best years were the 90s where he had top 5 MVP and DPOY voting for 4 years straight.
Yes, everyone in that 1988 list is a HOFmer and all time great, but they all werent amazing or even close to their best at the same time, which is what I think the actual take is about. The top 8 in 2022 are all playing at MVP level, at the exact same time (except Kawhi who was hurt last season but when he last played in the playoffs, he was averaging like 30/8 on 68%TS). Even in the comparison like, 1988 Kareem wasnt playing better than Embiid now. All time, sure, but at that moment, no and its not close. We cannot use all time bias for it because everyone in the 2022 list is still playing and can add to their resume. So I dont agree, they dont have the "potential" they are the best 8 playing at the same time imo
Nothing nothing added via this reaction video
The '04 Lakers were a superteam and lost lol
it was the 2000s and hes above 6'9 5:10
but the 2022 lakers were a superteam they just didn't play as good as they should
Nope.
You need to have 3 players playing at a all star level to be a super team the Lakers didn't have that
Stop looking at the names of the players and focus on if they were good or not
Nah that last one I don’t agree with at all depending on what ur definition of super team but Cleveland was a superteam, obviously heat were, the nets was supposed to be a superteam
0:24 this guy who commented this should be restrained from using the internet.
(Stop it. Get some help.)
That last take by him was stupid obviously ya make someone like Kevin love a 3rd option he's gonna have a decrease in numbers but Kevin love was a 20 20 beast before joining that team that was a super team alot of players in those 2nd and 3rd best player slots wouldn't have been as good as kyrie and love were when they were the main players on their teams
Dre green whould not have four finals MVPs but he will have one in 2016 but curry folded like a cheap tint
Peja is kind of a big man, towns is only an inch higher
Cavs was definitely the better team tbh if it wasnt for injury they could’ve gotten more rings than bron in miami
Clique W for the KAT respect
Peja is 6”10
Thank you 2k 23 is so bad
Thinking wiggins shouldn’t have been an all star at all is ridiculous also he was the second best player out of both teams in the finals
The bucks definitely not a super team they’re a team with great depth on top of leadership from their Demi god leader giannis
Y’all stay trying to change the meaning of a super team. Don’t try to rewrite history. Don’t try to change definitions
The hottest take is peja as a big man
Scottie pippen was a top five player by 1996 better than Gary Payton Charles Barkley and
hakkem was second best player in the 90s not David Robinson
Wait, he's hating on 2k23 now?
She’s just mad it takes skill this year
What takes skill on the new 2k? Generally curious don’t have it yet.
id take JT over kawhi or durant going into 2023 personally
Based on what? Kd and kawhi showed no signs of slowing down
I guess 88 is great by the names but Kareem was extremely washed in 88.
is clips a lebron hater?
I’m taking Simmons over Book ngl
That Cavs team was a super team. Everyone talks about Kevin Love but the year before he joined he averaged 26 & 12 then he joins the Cavs and drops to 17ppg.
13:50 Bird ain’t over KD imma keep that a stack rn, KD would have the clan outside his hotel in Boston for what he would do to Bird.
hot take
overall Luka doncic is better than steph
CHILL, STEPH IS BETTER THAN LUKA, ITS LIKE THE KYRIE STEPH THING
Jimmy > clique
Bro really said fuck ray allen and shaq lmao
Rather have Kris Middleton then kryire
I’m sorry but the top 8 in 1988 is such bull. Moses Malone and Kareem were ball of gamers up to that point but they were washed by 1988. I still agree with Barry that this year is the most loaded top 8
Karl Malone over Kawhi is insane
Oof. Sorry jimbo, not your best work
That best era top8 take has gotta be one of the worst takes I've ever seen.
60's
Bill, Wilt, Kareem, Cousy, Jerry West, Elgin Baylor, Petit, Debusscere
70's
Big O, Elvin Hayes, Walt Frazier, Willis Reed, Wes Unseld, Bill Walton, Pistol Pete, Earl the Pearl
80's
Dr.J, Bird, Magic, McHale, Isiah, Moses Malone, Bernard King, Alex English
90's
Jordan, Clyde Drexler, Nique, Pat Ewing, Hakeem, David Robinson, Barkley, Stockton and Malone
00's
Kobe, Shaq, T-Mac, Nash, Timmy Duncan, Allen Iverson, KG, Paul Pierce
Only thinking by head, not interwining eras, and missing a lot of players.
I DO agree this era is the most hyped one given social media
Jimmy really just contradicts himself by stacking already proven, retired, full resume players against active, young players who aren’t close to retiring. Context, Jimmy remember? And legitimately if you put the 8 from 2022 against the 8 from 1988 in an actual game environment, 2022 is kicking their ass. The game is always evolving and getting more skilled, 20 to 30 years from now we’ll say the same thing. Stop with this shit
Jesus Christ is Love ❤️
Moses aint better jokic jimmy you are hiiigh
KD da best in da league
That Cavs team was notttt a superteam
But ain’t no way in hell you’re arguing MIAMI wasn’t
Miami was defffff not just a big 3
It was a SUPERTEAM
2k22 was terrible 23 is 22 times better
terrible is a strong world at least we didn’t get a really shit game like 2k20 or 2k18
@@niggatron4072 5 on 5 play now and stuff like that was good but online was trash u had people running left and right no team ball to be had and also I think the defense this year is far better I actually feel like my defense matters and I love how shooting takes skill this year compared to last year
Luka> John Stockton and gp and if you don’t agree you tell who you’d rather rather start your franchise with 🤷🏾♂️
Franchise starter does not mean better player, I would take about 20 guys over Kobe to start a franchise with but that doesn’t mean that Kobe is outside the top 20.
7:59 if you takin Booker over Ben your HIGH off drugs… terrible example lol.. dude bugged out
Is a 6-10 Patrick Beverly a bad thing? 😂😂😂😂😂 dude high 😭
@@Kay4423 a 6'10 pat bev who d9esnt shoot and chooses to sit out entire seasons is most definitely not a good thing
I’m 1000% percent taking Book over Ben 8 days of the week.
@@Kay4423 also the guy specifically if you take his playmaking away. You know, one of the few things that makes him effective at all on the court. But even then, this comparison is disrespectful to Pat Bev, who has the aggressive motor and will to win.
you rather take Ben who just sat out the whole season over DBook who plays 70+ games every season?