The Canucks Sign Two MUTANTS On Defence!
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- Опубликовано: 1 июл 2024
- If there is one thing clear about Rick Tocchet hockey, its that he covets big defensemen! Patrik Allvin and Jim Rutherford have done an excellent job of cornering the market on these mutants, from Carson Soucy, to Nikita Zadorov, and now Derek Forbort plus Vincent Desharnais! However, size on the back end does not always equal competence. In this video, I break down the positives and negatives of each of the Canucks new defensemen!
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What are your thoughts on these two signings? Other than Zadorov, is there anyone you would have rather signed?
Desharnais signing is definitely overpayment I would rather signed Dillon
Crosby. But thats cuz I'm a filthy casual 😅
@@Canucksnate dillon sign for double the price with NJ
@@beastmodebrown3556 at least we didn’t sign edmundson
This team is being built for Rick Tocchet. So I trust the process. As well they have Adam Foote and Sergei Gonchar, two Stanley Cup champions coaching the defensive end. I believe they can mold anyone into the player they need.
Exactly, look at Myers. Went from a liability to an asset
Need a better Puck moving D Man in our 3rd pairing unless Foote does wonders with these two which I believe he will improve them a little
@@conservativeamber1216no need for puck moving dman o. 3rd pairing. The 3rd pair will play PK and 5 minutes of 5 on 5. 45 minutes will be distributed on top 4 with Hughes getting 25 minutes or more as our Norris defenseman. Deharnais and Forbort are for PK mainly, frees up Myers and Soucy for more 5 on 5 play
Rutherford and Allvin are playing Moneypuck and doing quite well at it.
Given that their options were resign Zadorov and ice a very thin team especially on defence, they did very well. On a positive note, is any team going to look forward to coming to Vancouver or playing the Canucks in general? They're stocking up on painkillers before they get here. This team is going to hurt people - and they're pretty deep. DeBrusk is good for 25 goals in a down year without Pettersson and he's no slouch physically. Sure, Forbert and Desharnais aren't going to won anyone with either their offensive or defensive ability, but they're basically 6-7 guys who will be brutal to play against. That's what Allvin complained about when he first got here. That the Canucks were essentially soft. Now they have a coach who demands hard play and Allvin is assembling a roster that can hurt teams - both on the scoreboard and in other ways. Zadorov could do that too, but there's no way the Canucks should be paying a bottom pair D 6 million.
I’m also excited about the Sherwood signing, dude is a straight up menace.
Completely agree with this
@@TheBluelineHockeySherwood will be a fan favourite
Terrible idea not signing Z..these new players are slowww. And your info aint right. He wanted 5mil times 6 and The dolt alvin couldn't afford 300k more a season....this team aint going far bud. Or ever winning a cup forthat matter..no winning mentality
You want to pay 5 Mil x 6 for a 3rd pairing Dman in Zadorov ? Good thing you're not the GM 🤣@@mkultra5752
I think these 2 d-man can improve under the Tocchet coaching staff with Adam Foote & Sergei Gonchar. Look at what they did with Tyler Myers making a player the fans wanting to ship out ASAP to being a very solid 2nd pairing. They took Hronek who was a decent player and made the him one of the elite d-man alongside a Norris winner in Hughes. No doubt this coaching staff can get the best out of these guys as well.
I honestly have faith in these guys, and Juulsen could easily slip in next to one of these guys. I wouldn't be surprised if Myers were brought down to 3rd paring to help out Forbort during normal play tbh. All in all, while there are some hiccups, I like this. Some real playoff-ready physicality.
As an Oiler fan l am sad to see Vinny go but l get it, you are 29 years old and you gotta take care of yourself financially. I know Vinny wanted to work something out but it's a business right? Canuk fans you are getting a really good defenseman with a huge reach. Great team guy who plays smart. You guys lost Zaborov who l thought was over rated and the replacements are better team guys. Vinny l think will become a fan favorite there . Gl and thx for your play in Edmonton.
Subscribed. Quite impressed with the depth of your analysis and the brevity. Keep up the great work.
Thanks so much!
Just subscribed because I liked how short simple and informative your videos are😊
Thank you!
sad to see desharnais go, but good luck at the canucks
Good content. I like hearing both the upside and downside of a players.
I wouldn't mind seeing Soucy with one and Myers with the other and have both pairings split the non Hughes Hronek minutes!?
Absolutely gutted to see deharnais go, but seeing the 2 mill price tag is why for sure. And redeeming qualities? That height, reach, commitment to the team and the system and he's more of a two way than defensive def. He does make mistakes and stumbles, but I think that is the inexperience, just give him minutes and a great linemate. This 2 mill is like a projection of his potential value, so 1 year makes sense so he can be given these minutes. Sad to see him go, especially to a rival but all the more reason to watch the Canucks. Proud of edm and vinni!
As a Canuck fan I hated him because he's a beast when he's angry, naturally I wanted him on the Canucks, and voilà 😂
As a Bruins fan I'll tell you that Forbort is amazing at killing penalties. Everything else not so much. But as a bottom third sixth defenseman he's not too bad.
Thanks bud. You're going to love Zadoroff. He's a monster, very deceptive speed and he's getting better.
I enjoyed watched the Bruins last year, keep pounding the Maple laughs 😃
Love your videos! Great work. Very informative.
Thanks! Content coming all summer!
Tocchet and the top management want a team that's no fun to play against, so I think with Tocchet, Foote and Gonchar teaching their system, they can hopefully improve both players short comings. If not, they'll be on the Kuzmenko train that leaves town. And, with the addition of Sherwood and DeBrusk, the toughness factor is even higher. Both players can also find the net. This current lineup shouldn't be too much fun to face. I liked the comment, the visiting teams will be stocking up on pain killers. Ha ha. Couldn't agree more!
I hope vinny does well for vancouver
The one thing you don't address is heart. These guys will do whatever to protect teammates and Tockett will get the best out of them.
Canucks needs still
1.Still need a Puck moving D Man in our Third pairing unless they split Hronek and Hughes up
2.A Top 6 Forward as well
Boqvist is an option
Schultz is another option but years ago he had a chance to sign with Vancouver but declined only to sign with Guess who...Our Enemies Edmonton Oilers
I trust Rutherford though
Just look at how Tocchet, Foote and Gonchar transformed Tyler Myers game. He wasn't worth a bag of Pucks his first 5 season in Van. Last season he was stellar and heavily trusted by coaching staff.
I hope they work out but if they don’t they are replaceable, remember when we were signing guys like this for our top pairing? Feels like 1st world problems
Sad to see Vinny leave the Oilers, expected him to go to Montreal if anywhere
Was gonna get an oilers Vinny D jersey, might have to get a nucks one instead
I’m a little concerned with the bottom pair but improving the forward core had to come from somewhere. It would have been nice to get someone like carrier but I can see what they’re going for here
Brendan Dillon would have been a better option. I talked to him at 8 rinks once and he wanted to play here. He’s tough, reliable, and smart. Forbert is a mistake: I remember when he chased Hoglander around gooning him!
Dillon is better but costs 2.5 mil more. Forbort is here as an elite PKer. We have juulsen if there is injury
Honestly i saw this commet somewhere else buts its spot on. Alvin hand picked players who look like toccet style players and will improve greatly under him. Canucks forward core got alot deeper and the dcore at worst stays the same and at best, will be hell to play against
The Team Also Got Tougher
got poolman on ltir, they dont use ltir till the start of the season (opening day roster )so...
two for the price of 1 I like it
IMO the team didn’t rlly get that much better or worse, slight improve offensively, slightly got worse at the back end. For them to seriously be contenders think the team needs to trade for another top 6 winger and top 4 puck moving dman ie Vatrano and Marcus Pettersson as realistic options. I’d be ok with trading away a 1st as we are currently in our cup window, along with Hoglander and podz if they don’t elevate their game this year
I agree, they kinda went sideways.
😂😂Forbort is absolutely not a mutant. Boston fans have wanted that guy shot out of a canon for years, you’re gonna hate him lol.
If any of these new d-men fails, I wonder if Jett Woo might have a shot at being called up?
Ooo, interesting. I actually didn’t even think of that. I’d love to see him have a good summer and get a shot. Maybe he can be a Perbix type, breaks into the league at an older age.
@@TheBluelineHockey I only brought him up because his dad Larry was one of the players who appeared in our favorite hockey movies "Goon"😁
Did you say branstrom is right handed?
I think Desharnais can improve to become a slightly worse Zadorov with the help of our coaching team, but Forbort seems too risky to bank on given his injury history. Good thing he is only signed for a year.
Canucks just got slower and weaker on defence
Better than their D at the start of the season. The only loss was Zadorov.
Forborts metric PK is 99
Hi😊
Z was overrated. Less points than Myers and got suspended just another dirty player that will cause problems in Boston.
I AM A BRUINS FAN AND FORBORT IS NOT A MUTANT. IN FACT HE IS THE OPPOSITE. HE IS A LIABILTY ON THE ICE, HE IS NOT PHYSICAL , CANNOT PLAY AGAINST OTHER TEAMS TOP 6 AND ADDS ZERO OFFENSE. WHEN HE BECAME HEALTHY HE WAS BENCHED IN THE PLAYOFFS BECAUSE HIS DECISION MAKING WAS AWFUL. HE IS AT BEST A NUMBER 6 DEFENSEMAN ON A TEAM THAT BARELY MAKES THE PLAYOFFS AND A HEALTHY SCRATCH FOR A TEAM WITH HIGH ASPIRATIONS. GLAD HE IS NO LONGER A BRUIN
WHY ARE WE YELLING
@@TheBluelineHockey SHUT UP WITH THE STUPID REMARK BECAUSE I TYPED IIN CAPS. GO PLAY IN TRAFFIC
VERY LOUD NOISES!!!
Juulsen is a better Dman than Desharnais.
Forbort is a healthy Poolman 2.0!
Pretty weak defence now. Debrusk is streaky probably better in the playoffs. The real issue here is Pettersson if he plays like he did in the last half of the year we’re in trouble.
1:43 Thumbs-down for calling a slap shot a "clapper". Come on MAN this is Canada! We don't need some US basketball commentator spin changing the hockey language (that's where clapper came from).
we say Z (rhymes with ed)
we spell it colour (not color)
we say slap shot....never clapper (OMG that's lame)
Mutants???
It’s a reference to the X-Men and their superpowers, not meant as an insult.
Thanks for saying. It’s good video.
Oilers PP destroyed everybody including the Canucks. seems like a bit of an over reaction to focus so much on PK when their own PP is even worse.
DeBrusk
😂 professor X
The Canucks went forward with Zadorov, then once again literally counted their pennies and let him go. Their defence is big but slow, and McDavid and Stamkos will skate circles around them. Hughes is not a defenseman but does everything else. Not going to win cup in 2025.
Zadorov really? So are we going to see another 8 years of losing yet again. The trade is BS and sucks. Why not get rid of Myers he sucks. Why do we get rid of all the good talent? What's next trade Demko for Quick maybe.
Luke was right Canucks suck. And like the sabres they will never win a cup..alvin is a dolt, The owners are a joke don't spend money on marquis players..lindh9lm/zadorov/ their best players in playoffs and wont sign them is proof of there incompetence. Wouldnt give Z an extra 300k to stay? Owners dont have winning mentality and never spend. Dont say the cap, they can make room. The best forward theyve had in 30 years is marcus naslund..messier didnt count..its a loser franchise for a loser city. Luke was right. Managing money doesnt win cups spending does
Have you heard of Pavel Bure?
You're from Surrey @TheBluelineHockey??
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