Magtech Steel Case 115gr 9mm, Is It Any Good?
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- A quick range test of Magtech 115gr 9mm steel case that also had an unexpected lesson.
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The original Range Ammo Test results: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/the-9mm-range-ammo-guide
More about Squibs and Hang Fires: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/magtech-reminds-us-about-squib-loads-and-hang-fires
The Magtech steel case runs!!! Used it in all of my firearms. Runs flawlessly!!!
I bought a case awhile ago. No issues with most guns, but some don’t like it. Overall, I’d pay the extra for brass.
Hi Gram, I have been using this exact ammo without any issues so far. I've shot roughly 900 rounds with no issues. Great video
Man, the last steel case 9mm I bought was the Winchester and I couldn't wait to get through that case. I had several guns that wouldn't even run it. I shot most of the case with a CZ and Beretta. Haven't bought steel since. I always did have good luck with Russian steel case tho.
I bought 1000 rounds of this steel case. It ran great through my MR920. Not one failure. However, there were a couple of malfunctions on my fiancé's' G43. I wouldn't blame the ammo, the Glock has had malfunctions with other ammo too.
Both pistols are stock and we are the first owners.
Thanks for this content. I don't have near the experience of you and Teya, but finally had a squib a few months back. Definitely causes a bit of puckering, but got lucky did not fully eject and couldn't chamber another round and saw the next round not feed so luckily checked the bore. Was lucky to have a rod handy to pound it out and not damage the pistol. Glad you caught this and were not harmed keep up these terrific videos.
Thank you for these tests! Magtech has for some reason become the most available brand here in SWFL. I have several hundred rounds of aluminum CCI/Blazer from the 90's. It spent a decade in my squad cars trunk. Then nearly that long in a hot shed before a Hurricane caused water damage to the boxes. It still shoots perfectly.
I have fired several hundred rounds of this stuff without issue. Crazy you only fired six rounds and had a hang fire. Thanks for the video so people are aware. Stay safe...
And that may have been the one in a million, we'll never know
Thanks Boss
very interesting. I have been stayed away from steel case in my handguns.
Perception is a funny thing but you recognized it and there was enough difference to make a difference!
Thank you for taking the time to evaluate the ammunition. It is important to see the various ammunition velocities and how this type of ammunition failure manifests itself. Very useful!
Been looking for this information myself and Thank You for doing this!
Thanks for the video. My feelings are if it can’t shoot steel case I won’t own it. I shoot mostly brass but if I don’t have it, steel it is for cost factor.
Grahaam!!! You gotta follow up on this! You've left us all hanging!!!😢
Overall, I don't like steel case ammo because it isn't reloadable. Glad you weren't hurt.
Wow, that was scary! The muzzle blast was weird, and no ejection. I’ve never seen, or heard, something like that at the range and I hope I never do. Glad to see no damage to you or the K100. 👍🏻
Yeah, of all the guns I own, the GP was probably the safest one to have such a thing (full supported and thick chamber). It's experienced things like this about once per year, or maybe once per 10,000 rounds. I was just glad I caught it on camera to share.
@@GBGuns That video is one I will remember!
Hopefully that one round was 1 in a million. Interesting that the Magtech steel case is pretty much only available in the USA. Here where I live (South Africa) we are pretty big consumers of Magtech ammo, yet these steel case Magtech ammo has never been sold here. Wonder if the steel case Magtechs are produced at the US factory exclusively to the US market.
That is interesting. This is a relatively new load on the US market. Maybe it just hasn't made its way to South Africa yet.
Yeah, their old steel cased was laquer coated I think. Looked similar to russian steel cased. These new zinc plated steel cases are only made by 2 factories I think. One is magtech and the other is a russian ammo brand.
Thanks for the content and awareness!
I have had good luck with this ammo, really affordable. Have over 1k fired, no issues. Seems consistent, not any dirtier than cci or magtech brass. Like u said, its a possibility with any brand. My worst is Remington. I have had a couple squibs with it over the years. Don't shoot it much anymore because of it.
I have run a box of the Magtech Steel Case 9MM through my Tisas 9MM 1911s and had n problems with it. It was a little dirty but ran ok and showed acceptable accuracy. I have not bought any more of it, but only because I started buying ammo in bulk and purchased 500 rounds of Maxxtexh 124 grain FMJ for about $.25/round. It is brass case round and shoots well ( much less crud to clean out of the guns afterward ). I'm not sure because I have not run it through a chronograph but I think it is very similar to Blazer Brass Case 124 grain ammo. It definitely pleases me more than the Magtech 115 grain steel case I tried.
Have only experienced a squib once in 53 years of shooting. It was a reloaded round I picked up at a gun show back in the late 1990s in .38 Special. Thankfully I noticed it immediately and stopped shooting. I had to drive the slug out of the forcing cone with a wooden dowel . Hopefully that will be the only squib I ever have to deal with.
Good stuff just for range practise!!
For my G19
1000 rds for 220$$ on magtech steel case no problems
That “squib” was a bad projectile. Suspect it was a jacket only with no lead. Due to more internal space and the projectile being extremely light it did not generate the pressure and recoil needed to cycle the slide but did have enough pressure to clear the barrel. I have run into this before with bulk bullets when hand loading 9mm and even fired a couple on purpose that I caught during loading and purposely made to see what would happen and that textbook looked like a jacket only with no lead. Hard to detect when loading a magazine unless you notice the weight difference in the brief moment you are handling the loose rounds
Thank you for sharing this video and review..
I, would consider it a squib load 🤔.
You used a high quality pistol for the ammunition test. Things might not have been the same if you used a different brand without a fully supported chamber.
Glad you didn't get injured or your Grand Power pistol damaged.
Have a good day 😄 🙏
Thanks for the hang fire and squib information.
Thanks for the video tests I bought few hundred rounds and wondered about it shot several rounds through different guns ran good but when sitting in magazines for awhile it will rust a little thanks again stay safe
I have experienced mixed results with this ammo. I shot 2 boxes in my Glock 48 without a single problem. But a friend of mine encounter terrible results in his Sig Sauer P365-XMacro. To the point thath of 3 rounds he shot he has 3 severe stoppages and was near imposible to retract the slide the 3 times. I advice him to never use this rounds in his Sig Sauer again.
I sure hope it's okay, just bought a case
What a great teaching moment! Was interested in this ammo for my FX-9. I'll pass now. Thanks!
To be fair, that failure could have happened with any brand, it's usually very rare. That's why I posted hoping others would share their experience
Wemt in to get Federal one time and all they had was Magtech. Guy behind the counter said, it's the same thing as Federal. I don't think so.
No, not at all.
@@GBGuns GBB thank you for putting in the timefor us.
Do an update with more rounds.
Graham, looking at the slow motion I'd say the primer poped the bullet into the barrel them the powder ingited. Very strange i would be careful using that ammo.😊
That's kinda what I was thinking. It was a very strange recoil impulse and not enough pressure to cycle the slide, pluse we only got about 1/3 the velocity. I suppose if the bullet had left the case and then the powder ignited the resulting peak pressure would be significantly lower.
YOU ARE LUCKY.
Does your K100 have a stepped chamber? My Q100 Gen.1 has a stepped chamber and usually stepped chambers+steel cases=problems. Not because the problem you had, had anything to do with steel case or stepped chamber: it was clearly just an underpowered round. I'm just saying that if those steel case Magtechs can make a stepped chamber pistol run well (excluding the underpowered round) then they are probably good to go with every traditional chamber. But I think that in order to have some problems, if any, happened with the steel case Magtechs and the K100 are necessary some hundreds rounds possibly without cleaning the chamber.
USE IT FOR BACK UP AMMO IF THE SHTF
I have found Magtech to be very dirty. This would not be my first choice for cheap ammo
I noticed that it fouls my guns also.
Great news.
I purchased mag tech a little while approximately i not found because of the steal cases i were using four units Springfield xdm, new grand powers xtrim 100k your recommendant
Had major jams with canik exex lastly Hk p30 don’t recommend ammo great cost previous comment type o error’s
I like Magtech but that's disconcerting to say the least. Not enough recoil energy to cycle the slide
That was a combo hang fire and squib. As we saw through the chrono the bullet was moving at about 1/3 the speed it should have.
@@GBGuns BB gun speed
Parabéns. Vc traz ótimas informações de armas e munições. Assisto muito seus vídeos. Aqui no Brazil a Taurus criou um novo calibre pra atender as restrições imposto pelo esse péssimo governo. Este calibre é um 9mm com uma redução do estojo 0,8mm e diminu também a quantidade de pólvora chamando-o de .38 tcp. Ele funciona perfeitamente na câmera do 9mm, sendo maís forte que 380 e com um recuo menor que o 9mm. Infelizmente só a Taurus faz esse calibre. Não sei se vai dar certo.
Never have issue with magtech stuff. Use it in Glock 17, PC carbine, rak 9, canik, tristar, Taurus, and hi-point. Never had a failure to feed or "squib" or any other issue.
Yeah that's pretty scary. I've used a good bit of the brass case Magtech in all my different caliber handguns and never had a problem. Never tried thier steel case stuff.
This may have been a 1 in 1,000,000 happenstance, and I've experienced it with other brands too. Just neat that I caught it on camera.
@@GBGuns you probably are right. I put lots of Steelcase ammo through a lot of my firearms over the years and never once had this happen to me. I've gotten lucky enough that I have only ever gotten squib loads with 22LR of course and once with a very old reloaded 12 gauge shell that had a pumpkin ball in it, which was my first squib ever, that was over 20 years ago I think.
I saw another video where the guy shot up boxes of it and it worked well in different pistols.. Interesting that it happened after the 3rd shot. Bad batch? I dont like coincidences like that.
And hiw good is its jacket (thickness, hardness)
Does it matter with range ammo?
@@GBGuns Bone collision & projectile deformation dependence
For performance!
Curious if its true "what they say" about steel case doing excessive wear on the extractor. Good video as always!!!
Thats fuddlore, the steel cases arent that much harder than brass. Bimetal jackets are a much bigger problem than that in my opinion. Love to see a youtube do a test on parts wear with brass case vs steel.
@@timd729 it's lore until proven. I saw excessive wear after a few 1000 rounds through a rather old 9mm. I always took that Elmer Fudd crap with incredibly short hairs.
Is that a reupload? Maybe I've seen it twice based on the blog posts.
This was in a blog post a month or so ago. I publish nearly all videos there before here.
Just bought 500 rounds not to sure how I’m feeling bout it keep it or return it?
What I expereinced should be a 1:1,000,000 event, and is something I've experienced with other brands, just never caught on camera. Check the comments from others to see what their experience has been.
IF YOUR IN A FIREFIGHT. IT WONT MATTER TOO MUCH.
Yikes!
I avoid steel case for my stuff
A squid is a stuck projectile. What he had was a under charged load. Not a squib. It could have been a squib IF the projectile got stuck in the barrel. Too many people listen to Joe shmo on RUclips and think they know everything. And it's very rarely ever the case.
It was also a brief hangfire. At only 400fps it barely made it out of the barrel
Just my opinion, but when the savings you get from using steel cased ammo is less than 10%, it's not worth it to me to use sub-par ammo.
That's why I wanted to test this because the case material doesn't always imply quality. We've shot steel and alumunim that out-performed "premium" brass in the past.
@@GBGuns In my experience, which is certainly less than yours, I've been happy with aluminum cased ammo but never with the steel. Thanks for an honest and fair review...as always.
@daveandrews5998 I think chamber design may play a role in that. Fully supported or not, stepped or not, tightness, etc. Fortunately Grand Power has full support and a step so it gets the maximum out of any case
I have found Magtech to be very dirty. This would not be my first choice for cheap ammo
I have found Magtech to be very dirty. This would not be my first choice for cheap ammo