I’ve shot most of the cheaper training loads available to me locally - Blazer brass and aluminum, Fiocchi and Magtech - and these all were reliable without any issues. No light primer strikes, failure to feed or extract and all relatively accurate and consistent. Winchester white box is good for one thing only - learning malfunction clearance. In a box of 50, I had 6 light primer strikes and 2 stovepipes. It’s horrible stuff and I’ll never buy it again. Throwing rocks is more successful. Another great video and it matches my experience with Blazer brass. It’s good and consistent while not breaking the bank.
Thank you. Appreciate the information and perspective. I think that most of the 115 ball ammo Winchester, Remington, Federal, S&B and CCI seem to fairly dirty and smoky. Armscor is really dirty. The seemingly "cleanest" I have used of late is the Fiocchi USA. As a reloader some brass is "better" than others. I actually like the CCI & Fed brass. It tends to be less "sticky" and is 'smoother" running. Appreciate the content.
Blazer is a CCI/Federal product which is excellent. It's also consistently among the cheapest 9mm available. Of the 6,000 or so rounds I've shot over the past 6 mos, about 65% has been Blazer, 25% Magtech, 5% Ammo Inc., 3% S&B and 2% Winchester Red Box. Interestingly, none has been Winchester white box which is usually more expensive than other options. CCI, which encompasses Federal, CCI, Blazer and even Remington (which they bought out of bankruptcy two years ago or so) among other well known brands, is now being sold to a Czech company, which also bought Fiocchi (formerly an Italian Company) not too long ago. Magtech I believe is a Brazilian owned company. Winchester, owned by the Olin Corp, will be among the few remaining domestically owned civilian ammo makers. Ammo Inc., relatively new on the scene, is also an American owned company with manufacturing in Minnesota. Remington continues to be made in Arkansas and was revitalized with the CCI takeover. Sure hope the new owner of CCI/Federal will not be moving production out of the US. Does seem like most Foreign owned firearm/ammo companies do some of their manufacturing in the US where most of their product is sold, so hopefully the CCI/Federal manufacturing plants won't be going anywhere. The Biden Admin's recent ban on weapons exports from the US will NOT be helpful , will weaken US based weapons manufacturing and may push some manufacturing off shore.
Never had a single issue with any pistol with blazer. 115, 124, 147, aluminum, brass, other calibers, too. Not the most accurate compared to some stuff, but not bad and definitely consistent in my experience. WWB 115 has been a little more accurate but... For the purpose it serves of training and plinking, I'll take whatever's cheaper on the shelf that day.
I bought a couple boxes of Blazer and it was all over the place. Then I loaded Winchester WB and things improved drastically. I am leery about buying more Blazer stuff even if it is cheap. It took some of the fun out of going to the range.
I have used Blazer Brass since I started shooting over 5 years ago and never had an issue. I have shot mutiple other brands and always come back to Blazer. I prefer 124 grain as most of the Turkish pistols prefer it, so that is just what I buy to keep everyone running smoothly.
The worst was the day i filmed 3 of 5 videos I had planned, went to delete a file and accidentally whiped the card! After refilming the first three my batteries (electronic and personal) were dead. Long day with less production than planned.
Chrono was highly cooperative today. My wife and I have burned through 10s of thousands of rounds of CCI now. Just solid day at the range, have fun, ammo. Also runs suppressed quite well, maybe due to being slightly lower power.
Got my first gun in Feb 2021, when ammo was very expensive and hard to find. Wound up buying Norma 115 grain because the supplier offered free shipping at $150. I still buy it because it is reasonably priced and it’s caused me zero problems.
Norma was one of the only ammo companies that didn't triple their prices during the ammo crunch. Now that Beretta owns them though I've noticed prices increasing and selection decreasing.
Have shot 1000s of rounds of this it's my go to for plinking range ammo in all calibers I've shot 9mm 45acp 40 s&w 38 spl 357 mag 380acp 45colt in cci blazer also cci primers are my favorite for reloading and what I can find most even in covid times they was around if you knew where to look
Fatigue my ass lol..That grouping was fine.Great video. Like to see videos on fmj. Most ppl are going to be using this for most of their training. Thanks for taking the time and effort in getting this info to us .
Been using BlazerBrass 9mm 115gr and 124gr for the last 4 years in my Beretta PX4 Storm and my wife's H&K P30 SK and we're never had any problems with the ammo ... well other than the cost of ammo, but is nicer that the cost came down a bit not too long after commi china's covid virus started subsiding
I have shot several thousands of CCI Blazer 115gr through various pistols and it has been reliable in all the guns I have shot it in, whether it was my Sig MPX SBR, my Glock 20 or any gun in between.
One thing I appreciate about the Blazer ammo is the quality of the round. Every round is perfectly pressed. Each bullet is exactly the same as the next. I have found some pretty wild inconsistencies with other ammo.
I’ve had bad luck using Blazer brass 9mm 115 gr in my Kimber target II. I think it comes down to a looser crimp because after misfires the round comes out with the bullet backed down in the case about 1/8 of an inch. I don’t have this problem with WWB or Remington ammo of the same caliber and bullet weight.
Out of all the cheap stuff. S&b, fiocchi, magtech, and blazer brass, the blazer is the only one I will get failure to feeds in multiple different handguns.
You know now that you mention failure to eject, that ONLY happens when my son is shooting. No matter what gun or the PCC, he always has a failure to eject. But when i shoot the same guns with this same Blazer ammo, i have ZERO failures to eject ..... Even on the pcc, i can go thru 5 mags and ZERO failures, but he will have 1 failure on almost every mag ...
@@scoogyskoogz1869 neither of my glocks fail on this same Blazer, been thru 3000 rounds and neither of my Glocks or Caniks or Sigs or S&W have any failures
Thanks for making this video. I was considering this load as a subsonic option out of a 5 inch barrel and now I know that I need to look for something else. Great video.
@@GBGuns thanks for your reply. I do have some 147 grain ammo but it's expensive hollow points. I'm just exploring some options for cheaper fmj loads that are nice and quiet. Any recommendations in particular?
@heraclitus6100 there are a plenty of 147gr fmj loads out there. Most 147gr is naturally subsonic so you don't necessarily need the stuff labeled as such, but a 5" barrel may kick a round or two over the sound barrier
I had a few hundred rounds of Winchester 9mm target and practice ammo when I got my Hi point 995TS. The Winchester ammo didn’t work well with the 995TS causing double feed quite a bit. Tried Blazer Aluminum in the 995 and no problems even with the 20 rounds Red Ball magazines.
Maybe you can use Federal American Eagle 9mm Luger 124 Grain FMJ Centerfire Handgun Ammo. It has the same numbers as Federal HST. HST 124 grain is my carry load, looking forward to seeing your evaluation of the round. I really enjoy your videos.
I've thought about doing something like that, but there are some variables that are hard to control which could influence those results. How much oil was in the gun? Which oil? What was the humidity like? How long after shooting until the gun was cleaned?
I’ve shot thousands of rounds of blazer and it never gave me an issue and as a reasonable cheap planking ammo, i’ve never had any good luck with Winchester white box
i went thru 3000 rounds of this blazer and 1 failure to ignite. I did buy the Winchester white box (200 round), it was the same price as the blazer (per round) but i have yet to open it and fire them.
The blazer fmj (both 115gr and 124gr) has been fine for range work...we don't sweat the very, very rare problem, figuring cheap ammo is cheap ammo...the stuff goes bang, good enough...
@@GBGuns lol, no...we buy by price when it comes to range ammo...a difference in fps, or accuracy pretty much immaterial to us...on a fixed income we find the bronze rated stuff much easier on our pocket than the silver or gold rated ammo...we do spend the savings on SD/HD/stash ammo, can't mess around with that...
@@GBGuns a couple weeks ago the 124gr blazer was 12.99 (26 cents) at local gunshop, not terrible (for these days!), but the pmc 115gr currently 11.99 a box, so we jumped on that...as we note, those couple dollars saved on a couple boxes can be applied to other goodies, and we blow up enough ammo in a year's time it adds up to several extra boxes...i've considered taking up reloading, but at my advanced age it seems counter-intuitive, so we try buy cheap (relatively), and keep stacking for future lean times...
I came across this video while searching for an answer to a question regarding self defense ammo. What is the best grain of ammo to carry? I have 124 grain and 147 grain defense ammo, which is better to use and why?
I would love to see some tests on the Callaway ballistics ammo I see very little about it online . I have a ton of their 115 TMJ stuff that I use for plinking because it runs about $10-$11 dollars for a box of 50, they also make two types of hollow points a copper hollow-point I believe it is and then a expanding hollow-point they call it which I think is lead in copper and those run around $22 to $23 for a box of 50 But as I said there's very little information on calloway ballistics online I know they make some very good 223 ammo I've got some of that as well. I believe they sell new ammo as well as reman.
Chronograph is ok to check. However reliabilty and accuracy is what counts. Of course accuracy has to do with the shooter and if the the pistol likes the type of ammo. I look for function and accuracy. I will shoot from support at 25 yards then will at 50 yards.
It's always worked well but the new product isn't as fast even though it says 1100 it reads 965 not for pdws mine spits it back and won't run on it that wasn't the case two years ago it ran fine a box of sb124 didn't malfunction at all
Which loads do you feel are higher-powered? We got some interesting numbers out of this compared to the others so far: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/the-best-range-ammo-quest-part-3
@@GBGuns it's been a while since I tested it against others. I think I had American Eagle but at that time I had started buying Underwood ammo which is hot ammo. The only thing I didn't like about Underwood especially in .40 cal is that the bullets weren't seated tight enough in the case and would set back after several cycles of unloading the gun(Glock)along with one round in the chamber . Underwood may have fixed that problem by now. I just know that blazer brass acted anemic and American Eagle was a little more powerful. P.S. I think that in the case of the the blazer brass,after shooting a fifty round box of it,the rounds weren't consistently loaded with the same powder charge. As some of the rounds were weaker.
Yes, those will be included eventually. I need to find some S&B 115gr, and the Norma we have is the old Norma, I'm waiting for some newer production to come out. Post Beretta takeover it seems some things have changed (higher prices, less variety) so I'm curious if the quality will change too. I liked the old Norma.
@@mattschmitt9924 I was really disappointed when they killed the Hexagon line, that stuff was amazing. I ran into some Norma guys at an event shortly after the takeover and whispered to them, "Don't let Beretta Beretta Norma". I don't think either of them work there anymore :(
I like blazer brass I’ve never had any issues with it and it’s and it’s some pretty clean ammo , I think it’s one of the best target ammo u can buy, now this is my experience with it , some other shooters mite not have the same as I did
Anyone else noticing different points of impact when using different brands and different weight ammo with the same gun? Which brand and which weight works best differs from gun to gun. Or am I imagining it?
I got them for that today, couldn't afford your amount. I thought this is a real good price. Those prices of 21 to 35 and higher for hollow points that are proving to not open, I'll enjoy more ammo.
Between these basic results: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/liberty-ammunition-test and these results against other loads: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/defensive-pistol-barrel-length-ammo-selection I don't think there's much out there to challenge Liberty Ammunition for energy delivered on target.
I'm collecting up some 124gr, considering creating a list of those like I'm doing with 115gr. If this series is enjoyed enough I'll do 124gr loads as well.
Any shortcoming Blazer Brass might have, is more than made up for in its availability, and price... Bought 4 cases last night. $225 per 1000 rounds... I didnt need it, but thats 2015 prices. No reason not to buy it.
Im about to buy 4k this weekend but i miss that 2019 price on browning ammo academy used to sell 150 rnd boxes for $21 used to buy 7 boxes a week just to train with and have fun
Will not buy Blazer. Maybe I just got a bad batch but when I had one fail to load i checked and the round had come apart in the chamber. Showed it to the range safety officer and he said he had never seen that before. Had many FTL’s.
So I just learned that on the back of the box for this ammo it explicitly tells you to not use it with ported barrel or compensator in English. The weird part is it tells you that again in French but also tells you to not fire it through a suppressor. I guess suppressors are so hard to get in the US that they don't think you need a warning label.
@@ACommenterOnRUclipsprobably just to legally protect themselves incase someone has a baffle-strike. A lawsuit isn't going to hold up if they explicitly say not to use with a suppressor on the box.
@@zues287 going to assume that they are referring to a screw on suppressor which may or may not be 100% straight true to the barrel it attaches to. It could be off by 1 or 2 degree's which would cause a baffle strike. Now if the supressor is one with the barrel, then it would be safe to fire these or any ammo thru.
That would be an interesting one, Cabela's is the only place I've seen that brand, and our local Cabela's cut their firearm section down to about 1/10 of what it used to be :(
I don't trust Fiocci. A my friend destroyed 2 guns of one of their lots. The 2nd time he did it, he didn't know he mixed that old lot with his good stuff.
@@GBGuns great job I appreciate you sharing your findings! I will probably stick with Blazer.....but I have to say the Sterling softer shooting sounds fun too. 😜
@@jknewb6276 If you want to practice speed, sometimes stepping to a softer load can help you work on the mechanics of speed, then step back up to a hotter load applying what you've learned with the soft stuff. It's not a big jump like going to a smaller caliber, but that's a good thing, plus it lets you get a different experiment out of the same gun.
See how Blazer Brass compares against other loads here: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/is-blazer-9mm-any-good
I've shot several thousand 9mm rounds of Blazer Brass over the past few years. No problems ever.
Nicely performed test. Thanks.
Do you shoot glock?
Blazer brass is extremely consistent and used it for years. It's my go to ammo for plinking and competition if I can't reload in time.
3000 rounds and 1 failure.
Can you use it in edc
@@javelinblue5414did you find out ?
@@freewrld1893 I'm Canadian, can't carry a gun around.
I’ve shot most of the cheaper training loads available to me locally - Blazer brass and aluminum, Fiocchi and Magtech - and these all were reliable without any issues. No light primer strikes, failure to feed or extract and all relatively accurate and consistent. Winchester white box is good for one thing only - learning malfunction clearance. In a box of 50, I had 6 light primer strikes and 2 stovepipes. It’s horrible stuff and I’ll never buy it again. Throwing rocks is more successful. Another great video and it matches my experience with Blazer brass. It’s good and consistent while not breaking the bank.
Thank you. Appreciate the information and perspective. I think that most of the 115 ball ammo Winchester, Remington, Federal, S&B and CCI seem to fairly dirty and smoky. Armscor is really dirty. The seemingly "cleanest" I have used of late is the Fiocchi USA. As a reloader some brass is "better" than others. I actually like the CCI & Fed brass. It tends to be less "sticky" and is 'smoother" running. Appreciate the content.
Been using it for years. Great affordable ammo
Blazer is a CCI/Federal product which is excellent. It's also consistently among the cheapest 9mm available. Of the 6,000 or so rounds I've shot over the past 6 mos, about 65% has been Blazer, 25% Magtech, 5% Ammo Inc., 3% S&B and 2% Winchester Red Box. Interestingly, none has been Winchester white box which is usually more expensive than other options. CCI, which encompasses Federal, CCI, Blazer and even Remington (which they bought out of bankruptcy two years ago or so) among other well known brands, is now being sold to a Czech company, which also bought Fiocchi (formerly an Italian Company) not too long ago. Magtech I believe is a Brazilian owned company. Winchester, owned by the Olin Corp, will be among the few remaining domestically owned civilian ammo makers. Ammo Inc., relatively new on the scene, is also an American owned company with manufacturing in Minnesota. Remington continues to be made in Arkansas and was revitalized with the CCI takeover. Sure hope the new owner of CCI/Federal will not be moving production out of the US. Does seem like most Foreign owned firearm/ammo companies do some of their manufacturing in the US where most of their product is sold, so hopefully the CCI/Federal manufacturing plants won't be going anywhere. The Biden Admin's recent ban on weapons exports from the US will NOT be helpful , will weaken US based weapons manufacturing and may push some manufacturing off shore.
Never had a single issue with any pistol with blazer. 115, 124, 147, aluminum, brass, other calibers, too. Not the most accurate compared to some stuff, but not bad and definitely consistent in my experience.
WWB 115 has been a little more accurate but... For the purpose it serves of training and plinking, I'll take whatever's cheaper on the shelf that day.
Sportsmans has the blazer 9mm 115 and 124gr for $12.99/50 fmj. I had to grab some. I'm pleased with Blazer.
@@semlohde1 ... Sportsman???
I've been currently using SuperVal fmj reloads but like Blazer better, it cost more.
Mollys llc 1000 rounds for $244 with free shipping
I bought a couple boxes of Blazer and it was all over the place. Then I loaded Winchester WB and things improved drastically. I am leery about buying more Blazer stuff even if it is cheap. It took some of the fun out of going to the range.
I have used Blazer Brass since I started shooting over 5 years ago and never had an issue. I have shot mutiple other brands and always come back to Blazer. I prefer 124 grain as most of the Turkish pistols prefer it, so that is just what I buy to keep everyone running smoothly.
Another good video. Low priced 9mm range ammo is the most useful category.
I’ve forgotten to turn my mic on so many times so I knew your pain when you said that. Nice demo.
The worst was the day i filmed 3 of 5 videos I had planned, went to delete a file and accidentally whiped the card! After refilming the first three my batteries (electronic and personal) were dead. Long day with less production than planned.
Chrono was highly cooperative today. My wife and I have burned through 10s of thousands of rounds of CCI now. Just solid day at the range, have fun, ammo. Also runs suppressed quite well, maybe due to being slightly lower power.
Some of the BEST FMJS. Hands down! CCI Winchester duty ammo Fiocchi are my go toos.
Got my first gun in Feb 2021, when ammo was very expensive and hard to find. Wound up buying Norma 115 grain because the supplier offered free shipping at $150. I still buy it because it is reasonably priced and it’s caused me zero problems.
Norma was one of the only ammo companies that didn't triple their prices during the ammo crunch. Now that Beretta owns them though I've noticed prices increasing and selection decreasing.
Some great range ammunition, for sure. Thanks for the share!!
Have shot 1000s of rounds of this it's my go to for plinking range ammo in all calibers I've shot 9mm 45acp 40 s&w 38 spl 357 mag 380acp 45colt in cci blazer also cci primers are my favorite for reloading and what I can find most even in covid times they was around if you knew where to look
Thanks. Really found this valuable information.
Always consistent with me
Fatigue my ass lol..That grouping was fine.Great video. Like to see videos on fmj. Most ppl are going to be using this for most of their training. Thanks for taking the time and effort in getting this info to us .
Been using BlazerBrass 9mm 115gr and 124gr for the last 4 years in my Beretta PX4 Storm and my wife's H&K P30 SK and we're never had any problems with the ammo ... well other than the cost of ammo, but is nicer that the cost came down a bit not too long after commi china's covid virus started subsiding
Love this channel. Oregon boy here, starting my own AK manufacturing company here in Oregon. Looking forward to more of your videos. 👌🏻
Fcuk an AK. Communist crap.
When you get it up and running let us know.
@Alan Ji it sounds like you've got a lot to learn about rifles.
Dude oregon boy and ak enjoyer. Good luck
I have fired Blazer Brass in 9mm, 40S&W and 45ACP with no issues.
I have shot several thousands of CCI Blazer 115gr through various pistols and it has been reliable in all the guns I have shot it in, whether it was my Sig MPX SBR, my Glock 20 or any gun in between.
Great ammo use it all the time never a bad round ever
I found some Blazer 9mm on sale and bought it. In my SCCY cpx-1 it fed flawlessly. I’m going back to stock up.
Great info! Subscribed.
Thank you and welcome. Most of the videos from this test series aren't published, but the final results are in the pinned comment.
One thing I appreciate about the Blazer ammo is the quality of the round. Every round is perfectly pressed. Each bullet is exactly the same as the next. I have found some pretty wild inconsistencies with other ammo.
Can you do a review on S&B 10mm Vs Magtech 10mm....from my experience the powder difference is substantial
Great job Thank You.
Blazer brass was much better when it was $99 p/500rds
10mm practice ammo chronograph comparison. What is the best value/most velocity for the money and compare to 40 s&w velocity.
I’ve had bad luck using Blazer brass 9mm 115 gr in my Kimber target II. I think it comes down to a looser crimp because after misfires the round comes out with the bullet backed down in the case about 1/8 of an inch. I don’t have this problem with WWB or Remington ammo of the same caliber and bullet weight.
Yes, it’s really good ammunition in my opinion!
Blazer is all I can afford. Plus I had a streak of terrible luck with wwb (light strikes).
Maybe 124 HST compared to the Speer gold dot 124? Seems like a lot of people go with either HST's or gold dots.
Out of all the cheap stuff. S&b, fiocchi, magtech, and blazer brass, the blazer is the only one I will get failure to feeds in multiple different handguns.
🧢🧢🧢🧢 . Remington the worse. I never get light strikes or any failures out of Blazer.
Ypu may need to stick with higher-energy ammo for a while. Our chart will help a lot with that
You know now that you mention failure to eject, that ONLY happens when my son is shooting. No matter what gun or the PCC, he always has a failure to eject.
But when i shoot the same guns with this same Blazer ammo, i have ZERO failures to eject .....
Even on the pcc, i can go thru 5 mags and ZERO failures, but he will have 1 failure on almost every mag ...
@@scoogyskoogz1869 neither of my glocks fail on this same Blazer, been thru 3000 rounds and neither of my Glocks or Caniks or Sigs or S&W have any failures
@@ACommenterOnRUclipsWould that be a grip and wrist issue for your son?
Good test, thank you.
The deeper dive and updated comparison is here: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/the-best-range-ammo-quest-part-4
Just picked up 1000rnds of blazer 9mm brass. Been happy with it so far.
Did you pay around $300 for it?
What is you go to ammo for a big pistol course?
The Norma 115 gr is my favorite brand to shoot. I like to see the results from your gp k100 . Thanks
I’ve run thousands of blazer brass and blazer aluminum. It’s an ammunition I trust fully.
Thanks for making this video. I was considering this load as a subsonic option out of a 5 inch barrel and now I know that I need to look for something else. Great video.
If you want subsonic, especially from a 5" you should look for heavier loads like 147gr
@@GBGuns thanks for your reply. I do have some 147 grain ammo but it's expensive hollow points. I'm just exploring some options for cheaper fmj loads that are nice and quiet. Any recommendations in particular?
@heraclitus6100 there are a plenty of 147gr fmj loads out there. Most 147gr is naturally subsonic so you don't necessarily need the stuff labeled as such, but a 5" barrel may kick a round or two over the sound barrier
@@GBGuns I think I might try some 150 grain syntech. I'm running a banshee with a can.
@@heraclitus6100 PPU 158gr used to be cheap and always quiet. I don't know how it prices comparatively these days.
Just bought 1,000 so hope they’re good for my stockpile!
I had a few hundred rounds of Winchester 9mm target and practice ammo when I got my Hi point 995TS. The Winchester ammo didn’t work well with the 995TS causing double feed quite a bit. Tried Blazer Aluminum in the 995 and no problems even with the 20 rounds Red Ball magazines.
I like Blazer 9mm. It's about $13 a box here in NC, so I stock up for my range days.
14.99 per box normal price and on holidays it drops to 12.99
I get Blazer brass pretty regularly, when on sale at a nearby "big box" store. Never had any issues.
Blazer is about all I use on the range in 9 and 45. Probably 85% of the time. Never had a problem with it.
I bought a few boxes of Blazer Brass 40s&w 180gr .... ran fine ...
124 nato pairs up great with 124 hst or gold dot
Good video 👍
Good ammo. Thanks for all you do even on those hot days. ♠️🎩🎱🎯🇺🇸🏁🇺🇦🔱🌻🏵️🌸🌼🏴☠️🏹
Maybe you can use Federal American Eagle 9mm Luger 124 Grain FMJ Centerfire Handgun Ammo. It has the same numbers as Federal HST. HST 124 grain is my carry load, looking forward to seeing your evaluation of the round. I really enjoy your videos.
Thank you. If this series continues into 124gr loads (I already have 5 set aside) we'll include that.
Thanks for all your hard work. This is helpful info. How about one more test - fire 50 rounds, then disassemble the gun and see how dirty it is.
I've thought about doing something like that, but there are some variables that are hard to control which could influence those results. How much oil was in the gun? Which oil? What was the humidity like? How long after shooting until the gun was cleaned?
I’ve shot thousands of rounds of blazer and it never gave me an issue and as a reasonable cheap planking ammo, i’ve never had any good luck with Winchester white box
i went thru 3000 rounds of this blazer and 1 failure to ignite.
I did buy the Winchester white box (200 round), it was the same price as the blazer (per round) but i have yet to open it and fire them.
The blazer fmj (both 115gr and 124gr) has been fine for range work...we don't sweat the very, very rare problem, figuring cheap ammo is cheap ammo...the stuff goes bang, good enough...
Have you seen how it's ranked in our testing so far?
@@GBGuns lol, no...we buy by price when it comes to range ammo...a difference in fps, or accuracy pretty much immaterial to us...on a fixed income we find the bronze rated stuff much easier on our pocket than the silver or gold rated ammo...we do spend the savings on SD/HD/stash ammo, can't mess around with that...
@@JohnPublic-dk7zd We shop (and listed) prices too. The lowest I've found this is 0.25/round, but it's not the cheapest in our list so far.
@@GBGuns a couple weeks ago the 124gr blazer was 12.99 (26 cents) at local gunshop, not terrible (for these days!), but the pmc 115gr currently 11.99 a box, so we jumped on that...as we note, those couple dollars saved on a couple boxes can be applied to other goodies, and we blow up enough ammo in a year's time it adds up to several extra boxes...i've considered taking up reloading, but at my advanced age it seems counter-intuitive, so we try buy cheap (relatively), and keep stacking for future lean times...
I came across this video while searching for an answer to a question regarding self defense ammo. What is the best grain of ammo to carry? I have 124 grain and 147 grain defense ammo, which is better to use and why?
I would love to see some tests on the Callaway ballistics ammo I see very little about it online .
I have a ton of their 115 TMJ stuff that I use for plinking because it runs about $10-$11 dollars for a box of 50, they also make two types of hollow points a copper hollow-point I believe it is and then a expanding hollow-point they call it which I think is lead in copper and those run around $22 to $23 for a box of 50
But as I said there's very little information on calloway ballistics online I know they make some very good 223 ammo I've got some of that as well.
I believe they sell new ammo as well as reman.
When they first came out we tried a couple of boxes that they later admitted weren't done right. We haven't tried any recently.
Blazer Brass > > > I like it, period!
If you walk into a store that sold every 9mm manufacture. what are the brands you would pick up first? thanks for anyone's info.
about 3000 rounds of this stuff and only 2 failures. I will vouch for this ammo
It ranked very well among the 23 loads tested
S&B, 115 or 124, your pick. Please and thank you!
S&b my favorite cheap stuff
It's not just good, it is good enough!
It ranked quite high out of the now 24 loads tested in this series.
Chronograph is ok to check. However reliabilty and accuracy is what counts. Of course accuracy has to do with the shooter and if the the pistol likes the type of ammo. I look for function and accuracy. I will shoot from support at 25 yards then will at 50 yards.
Consistency is a major factor of accuracy.
Blazer Brass is one of the Best ammo I’ve ever used. It’s usually on the lesser expensive side also.
It ranked quite well out of the 27 loads in this series
Thank you this is very helpful. So, would this be a good load for range and training for an intermediate shooter, like me?
Yes, the consistency will help you know when it's you without questioning the ammo.
The chrono numbers were higher than I expected. Which, for me, is a good thing.
Possibly because I'm using a 4.25" barrel.
That stuff fiocchi and federal champion are all the practice rounds that I usually use
In our test series Blazer has proven to be one of the better buys.
Base the HST off of Winchester Nato 124. Just my thoughts
Rewius to Guardián Gold by Magtech or CBC 38 Spl +P JHP in one snubby
Yes it's good, always has been
It's always worked well but the new product isn't as fast even though it says 1100 it reads 965 not for pdws mine spits it back and won't run on it that wasn't the case two years ago it ran fine a box of sb124 didn't malfunction at all
I came here to say good things about Blazer brass but i see there is nothing I can add Carry on gentlemen and good day
The facts speak for themselves. This was a top load of 23 tested
Have you tried Herter’s as a comparison to Blazer & Winchester as well?
Herter's was not in this test as we couldn't find any, we did cover 23 different brands though!
its dirty... but goes bang
Not high powered like some other brands I know but it's good for plinking
Which loads do you feel are higher-powered? We got some interesting numbers out of this compared to the others so far: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/the-best-range-ammo-quest-part-3
@@GBGuns it's been a while since I tested it against others. I think I had American Eagle but at that time I had started buying Underwood ammo which is hot ammo. The only thing I didn't like about Underwood especially in .40 cal is that the bullets weren't seated tight enough in the case and would set back after several cycles of unloading the gun(Glock)along with one round in the chamber . Underwood may have fixed that problem by now. I just know that blazer brass acted anemic and American Eagle was a little more powerful. P.S. I think that in the case of the the blazer brass,after shooting a fifty round box of it,the rounds weren't consistently loaded with the same powder charge. As some of the rounds were weaker.
Most Fiocchi ammo is loaded to NATO spec, so it's closer to +P.
Awesome test. Any chance of requesting Norma and some S&B? Those are my go to.
Yes, those will be included eventually. I need to find some S&B 115gr, and the Norma we have is the old Norma, I'm waiting for some newer production to come out. Post Beretta takeover it seems some things have changed (higher prices, less variety) so I'm curious if the quality will change too. I liked the old Norma.
@@GBGuns I loved old Norma. I like Beretta. I am not loving them together as much as I had hoped. Thank you for your efforts.
@@mattschmitt9924 I was really disappointed when they killed the Hexagon line, that stuff was amazing. I ran into some Norma guys at an event shortly after the takeover and whispered to them, "Don't let Beretta Beretta Norma". I don't think either of them work there anymore :(
@@GBGuns Well, I have a case of Norma 38 special coming in the mail right now. Fingers crossed.
Blazer and federal are usually the ammo on sale in my area so that's what i shoot most
In your opinion, which is better blazer or federal?
@@domenik8339 blazer
I'll save you all some time...
Yes, it is not only good, it is great.
I like blazer brass I’ve never had any issues with it and it’s and it’s some pretty clean ammo , I think it’s one of the best target ammo u can buy, now this is my experience with it , some other shooters mite not have the same as I did
In our tests it's also one of the more consistent loads.
Anyone else noticing different points of impact when using different brands and different weight ammo with the same gun? Which brand and which weight works best differs from gun to gun. Or am I imagining it?
No, it's a real thing. If you can hold the same point of aim you'll see slightly different points of impact with different loads, just like a rifle.
Can I edc this ammo ?
Just got 115 grain fmj for target shooting. Box of 50 for 12 bucks
Acadamy had these for sale for $13 per 50 so i got 3k rounds. Out of 1000 rounds had 2 fails.
I got them for that today, couldn't afford your amount. I thought this is a real good price. Those prices of 21 to 35 and higher for hollow points that are proving to not open, I'll enjoy more ammo.
@@semlohde1 i only get my hollow points when they are on sale. Usually they do 40% off, then i buy several boxes.
I got a but load of it good ammo
How about liberty ammo vs critical hornaday?
Between these basic results: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/liberty-ammunition-test and these results against other loads: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/defensive-pistol-barrel-length-ammo-selection I don't think there's much out there to challenge Liberty Ammunition for energy delivered on target.
I've shot a good deal of this 9 mm without any problem
Its made by CCI. That's good enough for me.
Cci blazer and Mini Mags 👍🏾
Can you try 124 grain blazer brass?
I'm collecting up some 124gr, considering creating a list of those like I'm doing with 115gr. If this series is enjoyed enough I'll do 124gr loads as well.
Any shortcoming Blazer Brass might have, is more than made up for in its availability, and price...
Bought 4 cases last night. $225 per 1000 rounds... I didnt need it, but thats 2015 prices. No reason not to buy it.
Im about to buy 4k this weekend but i miss that 2019 price on browning ammo academy used to sell 150 rnd boxes for $21 used to buy 7 boxes a week just to train with and have fun
Will not buy Blazer. Maybe I just got a bad batch but when I had one fail to load i checked and the round had come apart in the chamber. Showed it to the range safety officer and he said he had never seen that before. Had many FTL’s.
Your fatigue is probly 30x better than ppls normal
So I just learned that on the back of the box for this ammo it explicitly tells you to not use it with ported barrel or compensator in English.
The weird part is it tells you that again in French but also tells you to not fire it through a suppressor. I guess suppressors are so hard to get in the US that they don't think you need a warning label.
wonder why it says not thru a ported barrel OR thru a supressor ?
@@ACommenterOnRUclipsprobably just to legally protect themselves incase someone has a baffle-strike. A lawsuit isn't going to hold up if they explicitly say not to use with a suppressor on the box.
@@zues287 going to assume that they are referring to a screw on suppressor which may or may not be 100% straight true to the barrel it attaches to.
It could be off by 1 or 2 degree's which would cause a baffle strike.
Now if the supressor is one with the barrel, then it would be safe to fire these or any ammo thru.
Review the 9mm nato white box ammunition from Winchester
I believe I have. Check k the article.
Dirty ammo no thanks
@@ACommenterOnRUclips My bad mr winclean
I'd like to see how Monarch stacks up against the rest
That would be an interesting one, Cabela's is the only place I've seen that brand, and our local Cabela's cut their firearm section down to about 1/10 of what it used to be :(
@@GBGunsAcademy sells monarch if you have one of those nearby.
@@mattschmitt9924 Unfortunately there aren't any Academy Sports locations within a two-state radius from us.
Blazer brass 115 grain fmj suck the case isn't crimped and the projectiles sink deep into the case and even protrude to far out of the case.
124 gr HST through a 3" barrel. Carry ammo in a CCW sized gun.
It is interesting how much difference barrel length can make: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/defensive-pistol-barrel-length-ammo-selection
I don't trust Fiocci. A my friend destroyed 2 guns of one of their lots. The 2nd time he did it, he didn't know he mixed that old lot with his good stuff.
4 in barrol good for 9, runs little better' than shorter barrol, a Glock 19 is exzample of 4 in barrol
My gtw ammo
I think it's just fine....but I'm also a Newb...
Check it's numbers against the other's we've tested. So far it's some of the best: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/the-best-range-ammo-quest-part-3
@@GBGuns great job I appreciate you sharing your findings! I will probably stick with Blazer.....but I have to say the Sterling softer shooting sounds fun too. 😜
@@jknewb6276 If you want to practice speed, sometimes stepping to a softer load can help you work on the mechanics of speed, then step back up to a hotter load applying what you've learned with the soft stuff. It's not a big jump like going to a smaller caliber, but that's a good thing, plus it lets you get a different experiment out of the same gun.