HUGE LiPo FIRE - Battery Explosion! How much damage can it do?
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2022
- We all know how dangerous a LiPo battery could be when improperly charged or taken care of. Today we take a HUGE risk to see what damages a small LiPo can cause, then one 6-7 times the size! Watch to find out what's left! Be careful out there with any Lipo Battery!
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. Never leave a battery unattended while charging.
. Always know the proper spec to charge a battery at.
. Always be prepared in the event if something were to go south.
. Always keep a battery at "Storage Charge" levels, 3.80v/ cell, whenever your NOT using it- (personal preference).
Always practice proper safety and habits and you'll be fine!
I always have a bucket of playground sand near my charging station. or you can keep a big bag of sand nearby. It will contain the lipo fire instantly when you dump it on the battery. I was taught this by the tech and sales rep guys from thunder power batteries when I was racing 1/8 truggy and buggy at Amain Hobbies. I had to use it on two Spektrum 6s 5200mah lipos and a smart charger in my garage. It works like a charm. You can also charge batteries in a tray filled with sand if you don't have an ammo can.
What does “Storage Charge level” mean?
Thanks for this. As rare as battery fires are, it is always a good to see reminders of how much damage a poorly maintained battery can do. I'm definitely upgrading my battery storage safety level.
Exactly and we'll said! So am I!
Me to bud. So whats the best storage for them ? I had a feeling those "batterie bags" would not hold up ! Whats the point of haveing them ? Ammo can looks like it would work much better.
got hold of a 1"x1"x1" metal box some sort of valuable storage box like a locker room box for some of my lipos the bigger ones i store in the oven when its not used.
if it can handle the heat of a stake it can handle a lipo.
@@savagex466-qt1io ammo can is better as it can stand the heat and contain the flames but it need some 1/2 inch hole in it or a part of the rubber seal cut so the gas and smoke could exit and dont build pressure.
Omg ... I never even thought of the pressure part. Thank you so much ! As I do building maintince and a tenent batter for his electric scooter started a appartment fire ! The smoke killed his pet pirat bird cuz i seen his feather were not burnt ! And he could not see in his appartment as the smoke was so think. Hes so lucky to have escaped this battery was the size of a car a battery about that size/ The place is finished lucky no other units were burt. cheap chinese batteries are scary@@extec101
okay I'm definitely charging my batteries outside now. I didn't want to at first because it's really hot here but it's a better risk than the whole house on fire.
It's amazing how useless them lipo bags really are! I keep all mine in ammo cans but I take some of the rubber seal off, I suggest everyone else do the same. Great video dude! A real eye opener 👍🏻
Much appreciated and totally agree. My eyes were definitely opened at the end of this day
If you dont take the seal off and have no holes in an ammo can you basically built a bomb, theres a reason why Batsafes come with ventilation holes.
Thanks for making the sacrifice to share. Too many people in the community are unaware.
Wow it’s always frightening to see a Lipo fire like this. That’s why I use HRC metal Lipo Cases besides the regular Lipo Bags to storage my lipos.
After seeing this, still do t want all those lipos staying in the house.
What a great and important video. Wish there would be way more content like this. Thanks for sharing 👍👍
A word of caution and advice when using steel ammo cans for storage, while they are very good for storing lipos and containing the fire if one sets off, they're a little too good due to the rubber seal around the lid. You need to cut off and remove both the small ends of the rubber seal to allow ventilation and gas expansion, otherwise you're creating another problem which would be over pressure or a bomb in short.
DISAGREE! ammo cans are designed to be airtight which will contain and smother ANY fire. lipo fires are chemical fires and ALL FIRES require air. lipo's pop and burn and if in a sealed can it would smother itself from its own smoke and lack of air. lipo bags will only slow down the spread of flames during charging... not storing. storage charge and an airtight container is the best way to store a lipo battery.
or a 1/2" hole somewhere to vent out the pressure.
Been using lipos since 2006 when I got my blackjack 26 and other rc cars. No puff ups or blow ups.
Awesome info bro, I just recently uploaded a video of a 4S CNHL 9500mah battery going up in flames after a crash at 128mph. I had a fire extinguisher with me as I always do & proved to show why you ALWAYS need an extinguisher with you at hand during speedruns & at home if you have lipos. LIPO batteries are almost more dangerous than the speedruns themselves!
Awesome demonstration.... I can't keep a lipo battery alive to save my life.
Sorry to hear! Always storage charge a battery whenever your done using it!
remember tesla and other ev owners, there's a lot more than 4 to 6 cells in those cars
It's not the same type of battery chemistry as a lithium polymer mix, lithium ion cells are a lot more stable and less volatile than what we use in our rc models.
@@steelrainfpv3383 while the 18650s in a tesla may be cased better than the foil type that our rc stuff uses, they're still extremely dangerous. Vapes use 18650s and they explode often. Teslas were spontaneously combusting in ft Myers after Ian from flood damage. They also can overcharge causing fires. Also, when in an accident, they are susceptible to fires that are very hard to extinguish
@@steelrainfpv3383Have you not see. An EV fire before? The Tesla that crashed and burst into flames for instance. Li fires are just as fierce and hard to put out as Lipo fires. It will cook you in about 30 to 90 seconds if you cant get out... the truth about EV's is and why they went into production after the technology was around for decades already is because the Subscription based model becoming the new business standard.
If a car has a gas engine you can bypass just about anything. With an Electric Vehicle the manufacturer can send your car commands, force you to pay for subscription features and lock you out of your car or shut it down if you down pay a subscription. With a gas car you can bypass all of that and still get your car to run and drive. They rolled it out under the guise of "clean energy" to make people better accept EV as environmentally friendly. Disposal of these batteries causes more pollution than a running combust engine.
If you don't believe what I'm saying just watch this prediction come true: *Currently Teslas longest range battery can go 405 miles. In the future range will be subscription based. You will have a car capable of driving 400 miles on one charge. But without subscription to the Battery Range package you'll only be able to drive 200 miles on one charge*
@@steelrainfpv3383 And it's literally already happening:
"Tesla tried to force a customer to pay $4,500 ransom over 80 miles of range that the company software-locked in his battery pack. The automaker only started to walk back on the strategy to squeeze $4,500 out of its customers after an uproar on social media"
They can software lock your your battery to reduce its range.
Those are lion
And that’s why I store and charge my lipos in a battery bag, ammo box, and keep it in my fireplace
thanks for this! I keep all my batteries stored in an ammo can but I don't usually charge in it. Perhaps I should😂. Considering that most fires happen due to accidental wrong settings on the charger.
Real world scenario, yes you're correct most people would end up loosing there charger aswell from the short leads. However with this simulated test, knowing you're blowing up batteries, i dont understand why not use longer leads so you didn't have to sacrifice your charger but good informative video none the less
Where can you buy longer leads? Never seen longer ones for sale
@@crazytrainrc6634 make up your Your own leads.
@@crazytrainrc6634 you make em'
@@xsixinfantryx yep I know hence why I said never seen them for sale
I think it's more safer if you use that metal ammo storage thing
When mine give up the ghost I like to put them on my archery target. I lose an arrow but its awesome to watch the explosion and intensity of the following fire. Those bags are crap, if this happened in your house or garage well, you wouldn't have one anymore because they aren't stopping anything that these batteries are capable of doing.
Yup unfortunately all lipo "bags" aren't able to contain a fire
@@InnovationRC true...
Thank you 🙏🙏🙏
Got me nervous about batteries now…
this was good sfuff my brotha 💯💯👊🏼👊🏼
Brilliant video mate great info I must be careful with my lipo batterys which I keep all mine upstairs in a cool place and I only change mine up when I'm going to use them will that still be OK or not bud 😀👍😊
THANKS!! This video made me instantly buy some ammocans!
I had the two port Spektrum so-called "smart charger" and 2 of the 6s 5200 mah smart lipos burst into flames and explode burning the charger with them. That was a lot of money down the drain. They were never used the first time I charged them. Horizon Hobby would not warranty it. I don't blame them. People make up lies when they mess something up to get a free exchange. Never found out what happen as it burnt to a crisp. I still buy Spektrum but not their batteries or chargers anymore, lol.
Scary when you witness the power of a battery
Totally agreed!
The neighborhood must have enjoyed you testing battery's on their public road😂
Golden rule is to always charge these batteries outside on concrete. My buddy set his office on fire charging LiPo airsoft batteries with a legit charger and all
How many ankles you guys break running these rocket cars lol :)
wow rip charger. Also Seems like the lipo bag just adds to the fire, might even make the other cells ignite if they didnt go off
I had a little mishap with a soft case 3s when it was inside my Baja rey. I hit a tree pretty good and flipped it over, guess one of my motor wires came undone and it got super puffy then started smoking , didn’t do much internal damage but it smelled real bad. Pulled it out and I burned my hand pretty bad. Life lesson, be safe with Lipo batteries
As someone who uses small 3s lipos for modified nerf blasters, this sits in the back of my mind all the time. Anyone have one of those Bat Safe containers? Been thinking about getting a couple.
I use an Ammo box to store my lipo batt 💪Harbor freight 😎
i store my lipos in that metal ammo can - i wonder if the lipos exploded the can would contain it? i'm lucky 13 years i only had one blow up on me scary - couldn't put the fire out until it burnt out. thanks for posting this - i will get several of those first alert fire spray cans!
love that charger.. are they still producing it?
Socks AND flip flops!?!? What the hell does that in public!! 😂
I had shoes on before but always have slides in the trunk Incase I want to get comfy lol
@@InnovationRC im just being a clown mate… as an Aussie thats a cardinal sin 😂 youd be ridiculed until the end of time
That little bag actually provided firestarting material, no thanks.
Good information fam
Thanks Coach!
Great vid brother be safe.
Thanks man I appreciate that, you too be safe 💪
Always watch while charging, And I keep my empty in 1 ammo can and charged in a different one.
So he put it on 7A nimh right? & I guess the nimh requires larger amount of energy? Especially at the end of the charge to get it topped off? & the lipo doesn't so it goes off like that? Anything else to watch out for?
I WANTED TO SEE THE ACTION ON THE AMMO CAN
I accidentally touched a hot soldering iron to the case of a lipo while soldering a connector on. It resulted in a crazy fire that luckily only burned the battery since I was outside and able to throw it into the yard
That's a reoccurring nightmare of mine, dido!..
WTF! All drone/RC/FPV pilots need to see this.
we dont use those types though and no chance of charging the battery wrong like he did.
Newbie here. What did you do to them to make them catch on fire like that? Charge them on a non Lipo setting?
Charging a battery only with the main plug, without the balance lead, in nimh mode. Do not do this ever
@@InnovationRC …..ok. Thanks for the education.
It’s better to just store your lips or while charging in in a metal case or ammo box it 100 percent keeps fire away and it’s it a lot more available I recommend that
Well that didn't Fair very well for that cnhl lipo bag
Unfortunately it did not!
With all the "LiPo fire" videos already out there, I guess another one doesn't hurt. After all, there ARE still dum-dums out there there who still haven't learned the 'dangers' of LiPos. Very enough of these types of videos out there, and maybe...just maybe...the dum-dums will learn. 👍🏼👍🏼 🤙🏼
Agreed
I store mine in those type bags but in the same army issue container as yours, is that ok? 👍
Should be good as long as you don't store the container on or around other flammable materials. Worst case it'll get extremely hot and shoot flames out the gaps which might ignite whatever is close. Mine sits on a slab of concrete.
Just had a 5200 3s go up on me. That was crazy. I usually leave my charger in my man cave charging but this time happened to have it in my living room. Heard a little plastic stretch noise. Looked at it and it was slightly ballooning. Didn’t look bad but I know they arnt supposed to so unplugged it and watched and it was slowly continuing so put it outside and a few minutes later there was a big ass fireball!
This is why I went to lithium ion 😂 I used lipos on my Ebike caught fire several times from over regen lol
be a man and get off the brakes :D
These are lithium-ion.
Hence same reason don’t use lipo packs in my eBikes.
@@fat_pigeon They not actually the same one lithium polymer vs lithium ion which is used in 18650’s and 21700 cells and usually fair better to not catching fire if used correctly. Lipo packs just from excessive vibrations can short plates out.
Plus lithium-ion batteries have better density and high power capacity than lithium-polymer batteries.
This guy deserves a lot of sub
Nice video innovation rc for information 🧨
Thanks Antonio!
So, was just charging one of my batteries. Went upstairs for a few minutes to talk to someone. I hear a very faint pop, equivalent to a really loud bubble gum pop. Somehow my instant reaction was to go back downstairs as fast as I can possibly move. The battery was smoking and expanding rapidly. I grab it bare hand LUCKILY had that awful fireproof bag that you tested sitting right next to my charger. It engulfed in flames as I was freaking and running toward my basement bathroom. Threw it in my walk in shower and turned the shower on.
In my opinion, the really awful bag did save a catastrophic event. It kept the flames down just enough so I could somehow manage to hold on to the bag for just long enough to get it to the shower.
Moral of the story is, I honestly did not realize how dangerous these batteries actually were. Just kinda brushed off the whole fire hazard Danger blah blah blah. Get the good bags people. I also have been using a really large cooking pan if you still don't have a bag from when your first one burnt up....
Is that a 6s pack to power the charger?
With the events of Chris Darnel’s wreck in the Shockwave Jet Truck, can you re-paint the Shockwave Typhon to the paint scheme they ran that weekend
Can you do a test with the ammo box?
Likely in the future!
I blew up my charger too lol 😅
Be careful!
i was going to buy a little trek rc truggy for some kids but there's no way in hell i'll buy another rc car now.
need an update on that 6s burning in the open.
Safety tip: Use a zoom lens
Is an ammo can safe to store LiPo batteries ?
Eye opening. Metal box it is and likely on some stone or similar.
Thanks for this video.
I'm going to throw my Cheetah away and recycle the batteries.
Too dangerous of a hobby.
Nice slides bruh!
the chargers fan was running fine. only the plastic melted. it was fine
you are crazy to leave the charger and the camera so next to the battery while overcharging
You couldn't find a shorter cable to use? I think the charger could be a little closer to the fire ;)
Why did you put your charger downwind?
I’m surprised you’re risking your charger
How much can it do?
My garage my house.
So 12 Motocycles.
15k worth of vintage stereo.
And about 200k of house damage
What is the name of the extinguisher can u used. I'd like to have something around the house Incase this exact thing happens..but I've heard only certain one will put out a lipo fire and then ones they mentioned r pricey. But that foam one u have seems to work pretty good. So if u don't mind telling me what that one is called I'd appreciate it. Thanks in advance and great video
It's called First Alert Fire spray it's like 12$. I went to my local Home Depot and they had two Semi large legit extinguishers on sale for 39.98 which is your best bet
I seen somewhere u cudnt just use a regular type fire extinguisher for a lipo fire I for got what they called it but they where like $150 for normal size. So will any kind and type of fire extinguisher work? If ur mentioning the ones for $39 or do u know. Thanks again
Cause there's like a type A B or C or something and then there just type AB or something idk it's all confusing to me and I want to get the right kind ya know.
@@georgeparsons6632 a lipo fire is a chemical fire. It will keep going until the rest of it's hosting fuel is depleted. I basically just put the bag out. If I attempted to put the battery out with that one can as soon as it combusted I would have used 2-3 cans. I do not know of a larger size of what I used, I just have two of them handy. That's why I have an open ammo can nearby if something were to go up in flames I'd pick it up with my gloves and put it in the ammo can and run that bit*h outside and let it do it's thing. In all seriousness. You want it out of anything you care about's way...
@@georgeparsons6632 unfortunately I do not know if those two fire extinguishers will work as affectively in a chemical fire. I didn't buy them but it was a deal. I should have taken a picture to do more research but I was destined to find another can of what I used.
After seeing this, its obvious that a metal can is the only safe way to store and charge lipos. its irresponsible of vendors to sell these "safe bags" that obviously do nothing. That's how I've been storing my lipos IN MY HOME! The bag is useless, it might as well be a plastic store bag! Thanks for making us aware. You sacrificed your good batteries which cost you money! Thank you!!!!
5:55 ... um .. why no cable extension ?
I’m glad I only have nitros. The battery for the electronics Are Nickel metal hydrate.
the smoke is also very harmful to breathe in
I had a 4S 5000mAh go up like a road flare but never had one explode.
You should have made a long charge leads coming off the charger
Why didn't you extend the charging lines?? That is insane that you sacrificed a charger for such a simple fix.
Watch the end, I stated why
R.I.P charger
Best lipo bag......empty amo can.
💣💥👍
As expected, lipo bags are crap.
Batsafe(?) is the way to go it seems.
Those 6 cell lipos are very expensive,over a hundred dollars,per battery.
So why do they sell these bags exactly?
uh, that lipo bag wasn't "2-3 feet" away from the charger.
I just experienced this in the worst way. I bought a pair of 4s lipos for my SBR. I placed on of them on a charger, and it damn near burned my house down. I WILL NEVER CHARGE LIPOS IN MY HOME AGAIN! If i wasn't up late, I would have most likely loss family members. Extremely Dangerous when they go bad!
This is almost putting me off them now......
my battery exsploede in my garage today and almost burnt my house down so yeah
Thrust arrow more like overpowered leaf blower
Actually it's pretty cool
Can you do a video of them exploding in an ammo can
Some scary shit.
Can I have some lipo battery pls
Cool to see what happens with these batteries, but I feel sad about all the neighbors and animals in your area breathing that shit in. Very toxic.
Fuck that’s a lot worse than I thought
Ok not gonna lie going to stop using my cars until I get that armour case my goodness these safe bags are next to useless wooow
How about just store them in an ammo can?
I have a batbox?? Hopefully I don’t wake up to some nightmare..
Thanks!!
notice how the balancer is not connected and it is raw power being dumped in to the pack. i have talked to company's who make li-pos and most of this is false. it only happens when people try to blame there fires on packs. now li-ions do explode. we have all seen that. but as li-pos do not unless they are abused in such matters where they are not connected to the balance poet to give proper charge to the batteries. non of this will happen in real life of the batteries as long as you take care a
Well I just clicked on this video as I found 4 old lipo battery’s in a drawer kept with some deodorant cans next to them 😂😂😂 and they have swolen up to about 4x there size so I just threw them back in the drawer with the deodorant cans so I hope they don’t explode
Just to give you an idea of the size they were about the size of the black 6000mah battery in that vid before it started swelling
got more money than sence mate
And when a Tesla catches on fire, they'll be lucky if they find your teeth..
You sound just like Chris fix.. are you him cause he’s Anonymous
It's the oxygen in the air that makes it worse putting a fan on it's not helping
It was to redirect the direction of the smoke not blow the fire out, unfortunately the wind was sporadic enough to where it didn't matter which way I blew it. Kept coming back