10 Dangerous Lipo Battery Mistakes - Fire and explosion causes
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Traxxas Chargers charge Traxxas batteries to 3.9 storage 25c that's what people put xmaxx
I literally charge my li po battery by just connect wires with mobile charger and it never got on fire
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As a firefighter I highly recommend keeping a CO2 extinguisher located outside your charging area. A standard ABC will work but should a fire occur the CO2 extinguisher wont produce the mess involved with an ABC. Also if you charge in a room. Definitely have that charge box. Been to quite a few fires recently involving battery abuse.
assault on battery?
Right on, I just retired after 23yrs on the job, when I got into the hobby 6yrs ago I was a little cocky about the safety, thinking I've seen battery fires before. Had a cheap ass charger and did almost zero research into charging a lipo pack. Was using a lipo bag, but was renovating basement, and my abc and CO2 extinguishers were not in normal place. My first quad was a pre-built racer from a guy online, was common back then to use balance lead to power vtx. So I was charging 4s 1300mah, no balance lead, wrong setting, and bam it went from thermal run away to working fire in like 20sec. Melted lipo safety bag like it was a plastic gas station bag. Drywall started to ignite 3ft away, no flame impingement, straight radiant heat. Dumped 2 lrg glassed of water on it while gf tried to find extinguishers I moved. finally found the ABC one, which was a nice 10lb-er I thought would be plenty, it barely put it out..lol. I've told that story to many people getting into the hobby, they are no joke.
I meant to say this originally, but went off topic...Was so pissed at myself I went the other way on safety, I built a lipo bunker box with a self extinguishing feature using AFFF. Well, not the real stuff, but it's cheap to make, baking soda with a splash of Potassium Sorbate mixed, and tossed in the bottom of an old mammo box. Then I rigged a system on the peg board above it, using Folgers coffee can with some white vinegar and splash of dish soap in it, tied to fishing string going down into the ammo box. Fire breaks fishing line, dumps can of vinegar n soap on baking soda lined in bottom of box, poof, you got AFFF knock off, foam. I'm working on making a video on how it works, I'll post here when finished.
thank you. I'll look into a c02. I have a batt-safe now that I purchased today. Glad to know a firefighter recommends it
do you feel like people are forgetting what was perhaps more commonly known about electronics? that they get hot and can catch fire.
I always get a Sharpie and write numbers on my batteries. That way I can effectively rotate them so they all get equal use. I can also keep track of a certain battery if it's not performing on par with the rest of them. Thanks for another informative video!
Yes I do the same and figure most people also number and date their batteries when new too. What I found is important is to always use/charge them in order...1,2,3,4,5,6,7, etc. which creates a pattern and makes a weak battery stand out as well as keeping track of their charge states by memory without guessing. I used to keep a log but found doing that provides enough information to maintain and monitor them. I call it a rule now after doing so exposed a bad charger port on a 4 port multi-charger. Thought it was a bad battery at first.
DATE them also
if you had a better charger you would be able to see the IR of them and you wouldn't need to wonder what is going on with the battery. no need to date them etc.
@@blue03r6 My chargers are quite good actually. But I like numbering identical batteries so they all get equal use. Nothing wrong with knowing how old a battery is either.
@@plasticapple704 but are you actually keeping track of how many cycles they have? Knowing their internal resistance is what you need to know. Also knowing which cells are out of balance. If you don't have a charger that shows you the IR and is capable of balance charging to veey close MV it doesn't matter how much you keep track of things or rotate. That's honestly a waste of time as it doesn't do anything. A good charger such as a icharger 308duo you can actually track all of that with their charging software. But seeing the IR is what you need to see. The more use the higher it goes. And cheap batteries like turnigy come with out of matched cells. The pack is only as good as the worst cell.
great info brother! hopefully you've cut down on newbies burning their houses down!
Our motivation for sure!
I just bought my first set of lipo batteries..
This was so helpful, thank you!
Another great lipo battery safety video! Probably the best and informative I've seen to date! Thanks for making these!
Thank you for the video.
The videos of fires REALLY drive your points home. I am relatively new to drones and I did not know ALL of this stuff until now. In the beginning I was leaving my 2s batteries fully charged for months until i learned about leaving them at 50%. Only one swelled, maybe 1-2mm on each side.(it was safely disposed of) Now, I have a very nice battery charger with lots of diagnostics (Which I need to master). This vid showed me I still have a lot to learn.
they're unsafe when charged wrong. They're safe with this knowledge shared.
The best ever review !
I have a Trial Electric Bike and anyone has told me so full information !!
Thanks a lot!
So glad to hear.
Thanks for getting this info out there. Quite a lot of folk abuse their batteries badly. Hopefully this will help someone.👌👍
Thank you for the lesson. Rule 7 and 8 are what I am happy with. I requested a custom high C rating for my mountainboard which has regen braking and high output for uphill climbing.
Also, I have two batteries for the motors, a separate 36v 10amp and 36v 40amp big block to let one work at then let the other rest
I love your videos thank you very much! They are very informative and helpful. Especially since I'm new to the "New RC world" I'm 43yrs old and the last RC I owned was a Traxxas Hawk 2.
So yesterday I purchased the Blue Redcat Gen 8 after numerous videos of reviews/upgrading ect.. ect..
But again thank you for taking the time to explain the very important information we all need to know.
Have a great day and stay safe
As usual,great advice. I for one din't understand the dangers of LiPo's when i 1st got into our great RC hobby untill i had a 1S rip on me when removing it from a drone, plug came off and wires crossed !! luckily it was a 300Mah but boy did it go off like a firework. Lesson learned. 👍🛩🚗
Yeah, imagine an 8S 5000 mah. A short circuit is insane.
You certainly wouldn't be able to pick that up and put it in a LiPo safe bag !!!!!!
Thanks for the info this is great. I’m just getting back into RC since I was a kid because my kids wanna do it and this is all new to me. Bought a fire bag before I even took the truck out of the box. Now I need a better charger. Thanks for the info.
Thank you for doing this. It's so important that people understand about Lipo's.
Thank you, although im about a year in the hobby, it’s still good to view this video from time to time just to keep awareness.
I have a light on a xt60 that I use to get the last of the charge out after it’s too low to run. I try to fully discharge. #1 reason is my house burnt down because of a battery fire. Thanks for the video, I learned some new stuff.
GREAT compiling of valuable information!!! ALL good. 👍👍
The only one I have difficulty with (and it's NOT YOU, it's my situation), I CAN'T afford a bunch of Batteries like seemingly everyone else in the Hobby...
I've got ONE 3S for my FlySky Radios (one between ALL of them), ONE 3S for my Aircraft and a 3S and 2S for my Crawlers.
And those took a long time to acquire! 😖😞
I may be one of the last People to start using Lipos - because I've READ the information and SAW the Videos.
I WAITED until I could save up for a GOOD Lipo/LiFe balance Charger!!! It conditions, inspects, balances, REJECTS charging BAD Batteries...
And will set a Safe, Storage Charge! 👍👍
In a Hobby where I can no longer afford SQUAT, I sure don't want to LOSE what little I have...
Carmine ✈🚂🚙
Good video, I once put my lipo on my desk and started smoking but luckily stopped after a couple seconds and was able to dispose it safely
Thanks my friend for the great information and safety tips. I wasn't aware of the dangers. But I never charge my batteries unattended and gave great battery appropriate charges.
Before watching this video I was going to parallel connect two 72 volt lithium batteries for longer range. One is 35 ah and the other one is 17.5. Combined 52.5 amp hour. Whit my components I would of gotten 150 kms. Give or take,depending on riding style,top speed, rider weight road grade(incline.decline).wind ,tire pressure,and outside temperature . I am not doing that cause it something. If bad happens,there go both of my batteries and they are very expensive. Thanks for the great advice. You mat have saved me alot of unnessscary problems.
Right on. Maximizing fun and safety through sharing of experiences is our goal.
Exactly what I needed to see. Great video. Thank you
Thank you! You have become one of my favorite sources of info.
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Right on. We enjoy sharing for fun and safety.
I purchased the bar safe box from the description box. I just got my first 6S vehicle and I was watching videos on how much more serious of a battery it is compared to a 2,3 and 4s battery and I figured I’d touch on this video again and just purchased the box
Excellent video mate, good sound advice, this video has probably saved hundreds of lipo batteries catching fire & causing immense damage.
Stay Safe 🙏🏻
Thank you for all the great content you put out in your videos, it’s been very helpful to me!
This is our goal. Not to scare or to discourage but to inform and share.
İt is the best video i have ever watched about lipo batteries. Thank you for preparing it for us.
Excellent presentation. I subscribed for obvious reasons. Like not being a fan of burning down my house due to being ignorant of LiPO battery characteristics. Thanks for your presentation and warnings.
Always good info whether you're new at using Lipo batteries or just need a reminder to be safe and take care of your investment.
Great Video!! I'm just getting into flying FPV and my biggest concern is with these Lipo Batteries. Wow!! Just seems like so many things can go wrong....Excellent video...I'm trying to learn as much as I can before I even try to charge one of these things. Must admit...they make me very nervous. Hope this video gets a ton of views!! Again..nicely done.
Thank you. Given the knowledge... they're very safe. So it was important for us to make this video and inform.
thank you for the good information.
(and thanks for not having music in the background, that feels really relaxing to me)
Thank you for your video. I recently got into rc cars again (after 25 years). So much has changed and I was a bit overwhelmed. This helped
You can do it! We keep getting back in to after a lifetime of rc and this lipo thing was a big change.
ONE OF THE BEST VID FOR NEW LIPO USERS SIR,GREAT JOB!!!!!
Thank you very much. When it comes to lipos knowledge is safety.
Thank you for the informative video, I will definitely keep this in mind.
You spoke about topics no one really spoke to me about on various discord voice chats, this info is very much appreciated.
I'll feel safer at home with what I have learned today.
Thanks RC Review for the video and the links to the safes!
Thank you so much, you answered so much of my questions, due to using Lipo in ecigarettes.
Yes, so many got burned with ecigarettes in our research. And most our mouth injuries.
@@RCReviewChannel I think i will stay by my Sony Konion VTC5A 18650 and LG HG2 18650 and first when someone can guarantee me safe use of lipo batteries in my Ecigarettes i will think about a switch to it
Excellent stuff, I learned a lot and feel glad I did!
Hi, thank you for the video. You explain things in a way a noob like me can easily understand. I really appreciate that. One additional question: If a fire occurs, what is the best way to try and put it out? Is there a specific type of fire extinguisher to keep on hand? I believe that for grease fires in the kitchen you should never use water as it will only cause the fire to spread, that one should instead attempt to smother the flames using a large thick towel, and or cover the area with baking soda. Thanks again!
They're batteries...it'll ironically result in a _C͟h͟e͟m͟i͟c͟a͟l͟ f͟i͟r͟e͟._ So you would use a Sodium bicarbonate extinguisher; aka class A B; AKAA just a normal extinguisher nothing crazy like buying something expensive & going on RUclips for the manual that explains all this already.
I'm no fireman, but Instead of asking a busy man a silly question that I could google on my own, I just come here Instead to educate you & help alleviate headaches from those who ask silly questions.
Awesome video. My GEN8 will be my first unit using LiPo batteries.
Awesome info!
cheers man...just trying to get into RC and your channel is helping. waiting for my first RC...trx-4 sport. finding out about these new Lipos nowadays and not the old nimh/nicd etc. looking at my old Tamya cheap truck from years ago thanks
That is so cool to hear. Yes, everything is funner and safer with knowledge so we are trying to share the insight.
NO NO No, you don't throw batteries in the trash, no matter if there is power on or not
Many areas now have "Do Not..." and "Must Recycle..." ordinances in place which prohibit disposal of these in household trash. Check with your local authorities. See section 13.1 of this safety data sheet: www.batteriesplus.com/image/sds-Venom-LithiumPolymer.pdf.
Lithium batteries are neither specifically listed nor exempted from the Federal
Environmental Protection Agency (US EPA) hazardous waste regulations, however they do encourage education with local municipalities involvement: www.epa.gov/sites/production/files/2018-03/documents/timpane_epa_li_slides312_ll_1.pdf
Good point. This will become more and more of an issue as lipos are used so widely and they are getting old. Few cities have the facilities to make disposal accessible.
@@RCReviewChannel almost every store that sells them will have a box to put them in . Homedepo lows ace all have boxes you can dispos them in !
@@RCReviewChannel Yes that's true unfortunately and it's a sign of wishful thinking just like the nuclear waste accumulating. Plutonium-239 (half-life 24,000 years), Technetium-99 (half-life 220,000 years), Iodine-129 (half-life 15.7 million years). Let's just hope technology can catch up and overtake Einstein's warnings and prove he was wrong about the outcome of human nature... (e{a})/t=E.
So true! Might just be us here in Scandinavia, but we've been recycling batteries since at least the 80s and every hardware and electronics store, gas station and most grocery stores have recycling bins. If I see anyone throw batteries in the trash I'm like "You fucking monster!"
Great video!
I store my lipos at 3.8V per cell.
That sound perfect.
That is the magic number 💪
Essential information. Thank you posting for this!!!
Been in rc since the early 80s seen the batteries change ,actually raced not just play and seen a many of battery disasters, manly as you say not knowing and stretching the poor battery, and your most definitely right as about chargers ,many times took the ole battery apart moved cells around so they wouldn't mess up ,so many out there no nothing about this ,now we got balance build in the charger ,if they use it
Thanks a lot for your explanation. A must see for beginners !!
Thank you , very important to know. The more is the power the more is the danger....
Exactly. Just imagine an 8S, 10,000 mah battery. Whoosh.
@@RCReviewChannel my planes use 4S 12Ah, pretty big fat boi ahah
@@RCReviewChannel imagine buying two sets for your xmaxx... That's £900 right there lol and that's why I'm sticking with petrol. Petrol still pretty dangerous itself but atleast it's not a ticking time bomb 😂 this video is scary. Could easily make a pretty effective improvised explosive device with a bunch of these things
Excellent info and presentation. Thank you!
why thank you. Sharing is learning.
You stated not to put all the batteries together but end the video with a shelf full of batteries? Lol, what am I missing? Great video! Thank you.
Super great video!!!!! Thank you! - btw the rims look really good on the rc
appreciate that. Hopefully this helps others have fun and be safe.
Great advice, thanks!
Thank you for this info!
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Thanks, that was very helpful. I have just started to use LiPo batteries and this tutorial has helped a lot. Can you recommend a charger as mine are older and I would like an up to date one?
Thank you for the info and wisdom!
THANK YOU!! GREAT INFORMATION!
Very informative video. Great for beginners to the world of LiPo batteries. One thing however. You state a storage charge of 3.7v per cell. All my chargers are factory set to 3.8v for storage. Not a lot of difference but this may confuse some people.
Knowledge keeps us safe when having fun.
Thank you for your valuable tips for safely charging batteries.
Yes, knowledge makes lipos safe.
Very important information,,, awesome stuff brother
This newbie says THANK YOU
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Shared on my club page for racers unsure about lipos. Thanks
Appreciate it. They are safe as long as we know how to safely charge.
Awesome video!!! Thanks for safety info!!! Very appreciated!!!
Glad it was helpful!
8:47 "Spreading the load"
Gotcha.
Thanks for the tips 😃 very informative 👍🏻👍🏻
Gotta a nice lipo bag that I can fit in both my charger and lipo in while charging safety first!
Nice comprehensive video on Lipo maintenance. Use a Lipo killer to discharge the battery to 0v before disposal. Most Chargers will only discharge to minimum cell voltage. Thanks.
you can NEVER under estimate the danger of badly treated and maintained lipos ... well said
Nice job and very helpful. Thanks
Good information. People may recall the boat fire off the California coast. They could have used a fire safe charging box.
🤔🤔🤔 i need box too charge So true , i get your humor, only having one battery , kids beat hell out of it . If they only knew how much better easier it is to be into rc this day and age
Salamat po sa info!
Fantastic video! Very informative. Thank you.
Yes, when it comes to lipos, knowledge is safety.
thank you for sharing
Awesome video, great production! Very informative.
Thanks 🙏
Appreciate it very much. Most of the charging mistakes can be very dangerous.
Thanks for the explanation, it is really useful
Excellent advice, very useful video.
Thank you for the great info.
New to RC here and just trying to educate myself. Glad to have found the channel, but I'm feeling a bit confused with this video. I totally trust what you're saying, I'm just thinking about all cell phones and laptops I've charged through the years without giving it a second thought.
How many of us charge our phones in a fire proof safe? 😁
Those are charged at a much smaller rate and the user cannot screw it up. The fact that the rc charger has so many configurations is the dangerous part.
Amazing vid😀 gonna start charging my battery in a spare metal trash can to be safe.
Really liking this channel, keep it up man
I always put my swollen lipo batterys in salt water, i leave battery for around 3 to 4 days in a bucket to discharge, do not remove once you have placed in salt wateter until 4 days, ihave done this for over twenty years, and disposed of hundreds, thankfully we have great C ratings on batterys today stoping stress on cells giving longer lipo life, discharging a swollen battery with discharge charger is good but i have seen them get agitated and burn up, get an extension lead and discharge in the middle of a open space outside, stay away if you see fire as the gases are strong and temperature can reach 600C, let it burn out no water, i was told over twenty years ago to put them into 20% sea salt to 70% cold water, this information was from a battery manufacturer, the batterys will turn to paper type slug in 4 days making it safe to dispose of in recycling, do this in a open space and away from pets and children and me ;) Stay safe guys and have fun with your toys, don't store lipo batterys in your home, ive come close to house fire in my early days of model flying large aircraft.
Thanks for sharing. =)
I've heard that immersing in salt water is not a good idea. The terminals can corrode before the charge is all gone from the plates of the cells. So I connect my old batteries to some 12v car bulbs and leave them until the bulbs no longer glow - then I put them in salt water for another couple of days.
@@stedenvideos3825 i agree, but ive never had a problem with using salt and water over many years with using 2s-3s-4s-5s-6s, draining with a bulb could put strain on the battery depending on what type of wattage bulb you use-and the voltage of battery, draining with low wattage would be good to trickle discharg and then salt water as you mentioned.
I just won't recommand that because in case of any cell is a little damaged then you will put lithium in your water, water that you will empty in your sink or toilets what is absolutly terrible for nature.
Just fully discharge by connecting to your battery anything that uses curant such as a light bulb for exemple until is is completly empty, now you can also find some lipo-killers in your hobby store.
Thanks for making this video. Really helpful.
All my favorite lipos are puffed; 10 year old Thunder Tiger 3s 2100's that work great!
_LOL_
You right. Next step: have to merry them.
Nice one! Some kind of scary
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Very useful video for me. I am converting my cordless drill into lipo battery from NiCd
Glad it helped
Thanks man!
I don’t use lipo’s for rc’s but I do use them with my Airsoft guns and this information is still very useful thanks. I understand that you can never be too safe but I’ve had lipo’s for years and have never seen a fire… yet. I just charge them on a metal pan that I can quickly grab and toss out the window if need be, and I’m always within a couple of feet whenever I’m charging them so I can catch any early warning signs. That’s also something that should be mentioned is that they will typically give an early warning sign that it’s gonna fail and eventually combust. Things like cracking or popping sounds, a funny fruity smell, or the battery is too hot to the touch. If any of these things occur I tend to stop charging and take the battery outside to give a second to cool off before disposing cause at that point there’s no reason to risk using it again just buy another.
Amazing advice
Hi, great video! My question: is LVC for liion the same as for lipo?
Thank you Sir 👍🏻
Great information,thank you!
Great great review. In addition to always balance charging I make a point of never charging my batteries [yes I Parallel charge] at no more than .8C.
Great share.
When in a hurry, I charge them at whatever they are rated at. For some of my LiPos that's literally 10 times more (8C) ;D
I just checked, yesterday I actually charged an apparently only 2C rated 1000mah 3S at 3A... Whoops.
Thanks for this! learned allot!
That's music to our ears.
Thanks. Good info!
Thx. Well done.
Thank you
thank you for you information very informative and useful thanks again
Thank you for this good safety information. Dec6, 2021 RPB
Can't wait for solid state batteries to be released on the market. They have non of these issues, they last longer, have even longer run times, they charge faster and they're much safer!
Seriously? When are these being released?
Seriously? When are these being released?
@@BuggSmasher there still in development. They're being tested in full sized electric cars. Give it a few years though, the old stock of LIPO and LIFE packs need to be exhausted before Solid State takes over.
AND much more expensive!
@@Gamleprofil they're said to cost LESS then LIPO packs!
Much appreciated!!!
Omg. In your intro I thought that was you strapped into that vehicle then I noticed it was a crash test dummy. Lol. I immediately put on my glasses