Looks incredible. For those of you fearing to much look down time, remember all FMS's in large aircraft are in the center console and pilots perform many of the same functions. Now in these aircraft, there are generally two pilots and when CRM is used effectively one pilot is entering data in the FMS and one is flying. In single pilot operations, head down time should be minimized but it seems once the owner is proficient with the G2000 this time would be very minimal.
I have a 400 TT and I am quite happy with it. I am very young and love electronics, but I am not sure if I will like the G2000. I prefer to have a knob to twist in frequencies for examples. I am not a big fan of sub menu's and touch screens. Hope I get a chance to try and see for myself.
When I learned to fly back in the early '70's, "KEEP YOUR HEAD OUT OF THE COCKPIT!" was drilled into me, thankfully. It does seem that with glass cockpit gadgetry, especially when the central controls are located between the two front seats, that there would be too much head in the cockpit time. A mid-air in one of these is gonna mess your day up just as much as a mid-air in anything else!
my first impression is to much head down time.Constant head bobing causes vertigo.I like the controls under the glare shield better- keeps your eyes close to PFD.
I said it was helpful in IFR, although I think the autopilot integration is a bit much, but that's just my opinion. The option is there if you want to sit and watch the autopilot do all the flying on your 700k plane. The problem is that you and I both know that Joe pilot is gonna be heads down for his VFR flight if he gets into one of these
On the other hand, if you think you don't have to think to use this equipment properly, you are mistaken! Personally, I like the gadgets: they're an extra challenge and an amazing phenomenon.
I'm with you here. I learned to fly in the 70's also and was taught the same thing. But with all this automation and a built in TCAS system who knows? It maybe safer in the long run. Only time will tell. We just have to look at the stats on mid-airs and near misses 10 years from now to really know for sure. I have never flown an all "glass" cockpit, but I think I will still prefer good old needle, ball, and airspeed.
Great product! Corvalis is an excellent, fast... cross-country flier. I'd fly it too since I have a reasonable amount of time in Cirrus aircraft which are similar to the TTX in design, speed, and comfort. #Aviation #Cessna
Too much focus on the panel instead of flying arguments aside, how usable are those touch screens actually in moderate turbulence? The Garmin 530 buttons can be difficult to use and that's without accidentally hitting the wrong button which I could see happening a lot with a touch screen.
I'm a GA enthusiast and was wondering if anyone else out there knows about the Novaer U-Xc? It is an all new 4-place, low-wing that will go head-to-head with Diamond, Cirrus, Piper, Cessna, etc. Supposedly it will be able to haul 4-pax and full fuel at 200+ knots. Seems to be well equipped and designed for un-paved runways with retractable gear. The problem is that it will retail like that of a new Cirrus though:( anyway, just thought I'd share it. Thanks!
These are all OPTIONS, I understand it seems a little bit too much, but that is IF you would even want to do these procedures automatically or manually, after about 1,000 go-arounds myself, I think that it would be cool to try it out. But again it is just an option. Don't get me wrong, those G1000 and other full glass displays and PFD's are doctor killers and all those pretty lights lead to CFIT and other easily preventable accidents, but remember, all those are just options...
Too much computer screen. I would have a fear of getting lost in menu screens with the G2000. The touch screen stuff would drive me mental. More aircraft video reviews AVweb please!
I flew a G1000 for my instrument and the glass cockpit is insanely easy for approaches. Only problem is when you lose the AHRS, which you practice for.
You are so right! Let's just forget that since the introduction of the glass cockpit in GA there has actually been an increase in aircraft accidents caused by pilots relying too heavily on a screen and not getting their damn eyes outside. All kidding aside, I see your point for IFR flight. But, come on...what's the fun in setting the autopilot? Isn't that the point of GA? You know...you actually get to fly the plane.
I feel like this is really taking the fun out of flying. An autopilot go-around? A v-nav coupled approach? Jeez...god forbid we have to think when we fly.
TheGreenMachine Yeah usually 15k to 20k at the most for any of them. ;) Although build time is usually 800 to 2100 work hours. But I think its worth it.
susanrc73 Yes but to build it well and properly, don't you need experience? Additionally, time is money. 800 hours is quite a lot of time and for most middle class working people, building the plane might take a number of years.
+WK95 say you can spend one standard day (of 8 hours) per week on the build it'd take you 2 - 3 years to complete. That's the thing with aviation I guess. You either spend a lot of money buying or a lot of time building your craft.
Theoretically, if the market is there, the airplanes would come. I think the issue is much more that the current economic distribution distribution of wealth prevents the overwhelming majority from even having the means to take the first steps into GA (i.e. flight lessons and so forth).
Less is more in my opinion. This looks way too busy and completely ditching good ol' tactile buttons for touch screen input is not the way to go in aviation. The chance for misclicks increase using a touch screen, which cause the user to spend more time looking at screens than actually flying the aircraft. Please re-think this for ergonomic-sakes!
You know you can show these videos to people all you want and how great the autopilots are, and how fast they are and how easy they are to fly. But at $700K+ you'd be crazy to buy one for that price of a pressurized turbo prop, or twin. I would rather have the latter. Just doesn't make sense.
I feel the same way. I could take all that performance and fixed gear economy with just a 430W and an Aspen PFD. That's all one needs for /G capability and AHRS. The rest is just ridiculous. They are taking the fun away with such emphasis on avionics and button pushing. Even if I had the money I wouldn't commit it to such a simple aircraft. I could have the experimental version (Lancair ES) for $150K and even that's a stretch. These dopes throw these prices so nonchalantly.. GA is dead.
Hey guys... I've been building race car's and home's since the mid 80s and I'm sorry but your gonna have to excuse Me if I just DON'T SEE 700K to 750K .. call me whatever you like but I think you guys are just a little to impressed with yourselves and have made flying just another toy for the rich & shameless . I used to work for an FBO in Westchester county NY and have hands on a wide variety of old and new aircraft that just DO NOT COMMAND THAT KIND LONG CASH SORRY .. NO SALE..
It is NOT the fastest single engine production aircraft. The fastest fixed gear... Yea probably. But the Mooney Acclaim Type S is the fastest single engine production aircraft. 242kts true for the mooney. I'd rather have the mooney than this ttx
+White Fire (OG) is there an echo in here? lol i know they have differences, and i am a pilot actually, so for me, I would spend MY money on an ea330. and ive flow the extra
Cessna was so stupid when they decided to move out production for Mexico.. low quality everywhere, issues with fiber (off course, humidity man..) and poor sale support, killed this phenomenal airplane.
AVweb, why are your voice-overs so terrible? Stop trying to speak the 'King's English' and just talk. Viewers must operate volume buttons when you do a presentation. The subjects are magnificent, the presentation gets a negative vote from me.
Avionics? flying in low sealing? I still don't trust. haha Marketing strategy of Cessna. you don't make Planes that you use to do. I go for European Aircraft so far Right now. Yes I use to Love Cessna's.
I've been looking and looking for this answer - maybe you can help. Using the Intrinzic controller, can you graphically edit a flight plan like can be done on the GTN 750?
Beautiful aircraft.....wouldn't mind taking it on a trip somewhere, but I'm glad I learned on the analog panel.
Looks incredible. For those of you fearing to much look down time, remember all FMS's in large aircraft are in the center console and pilots perform many of the same functions. Now in these aircraft, there are generally two pilots and when CRM is used effectively one pilot is entering data in the FMS and one is flying. In single pilot operations, head down time should be minimized but it seems once the owner is proficient with the G2000 this time would be very minimal.
I have a 400 TT and I am quite happy with it. I am very young and love electronics, but I am not sure if I will like the G2000. I prefer to have a knob to twist in frequencies for examples. I am not a big fan of sub menu's and touch screens. Hope I get a chance to try and see for myself.
When I learned to fly back in the early '70's, "KEEP YOUR HEAD OUT OF THE COCKPIT!" was drilled into me, thankfully. It does seem that with glass cockpit gadgetry, especially when the central controls are located between the two front seats, that there would be too much head in the cockpit time. A mid-air in one of these is gonna mess your day up just as much as a mid-air in anything else!
my first impression is to much head down time.Constant head bobing causes vertigo.I like the controls under the glare shield better- keeps your eyes close to PFD.
You rigth. Is the same efect that watching mobile phone for a few minutes while you are walking.
Amazing plane and avionics!
One day I WILL own this!
3 years later. Has your dream come true? Stay safe!
How about now?
I said it was helpful in IFR, although I think the autopilot integration is a bit much, but that's just my opinion. The option is there if you want to sit and watch the autopilot do all the flying on your 700k plane.
The problem is that you and I both know that Joe pilot is gonna be heads down for his VFR flight if he gets into one of these
On the other hand, if you think you don't have to think to use this equipment properly, you are mistaken! Personally, I like the gadgets: they're an extra challenge and an amazing phenomenon.
I'm with you here. I learned to fly in the 70's also and was taught the same thing. But with all this automation and a built in TCAS system who knows? It maybe safer in the long run. Only time will tell. We just have to look at the stats on mid-airs and near misses 10 years from now to really know for sure. I have never flown an all "glass" cockpit, but I think I will still prefer good old needle, ball, and airspeed.
I really enjoyed this video
Thank you for the video.
SOOO, beautiful!
Great product! Corvalis is an excellent, fast... cross-country flier. I'd fly it too since I have a reasonable amount of time in Cirrus aircraft which are similar to the TTX in design, speed, and comfort.
#Aviation #Cessna
Too much focus on the panel instead of flying arguments aside, how usable are those touch screens actually in moderate turbulence? The Garmin 530 buttons can be difficult to use and that's without accidentally hitting the wrong button which I could see happening a lot with a touch screen.
How many hours can this plane fly before having to be refueled
Incredible aircraft!
I'm a GA enthusiast and was wondering if anyone else out there knows about the Novaer U-Xc? It is an all new 4-place, low-wing that will go head-to-head with Diamond, Cirrus, Piper, Cessna, etc. Supposedly it will be able to haul 4-pax and full fuel at 200+ knots. Seems to be well equipped and designed for un-paved runways with retractable gear. The problem is that it will retail like that of a new Cirrus though:( anyway, just thought I'd share it. Thanks!
How comfortable is this airplane? Also what safety features does it have?
Wow. Small private planes have come a long way.
Agreed... I just borned on the wrong age... where are the DC-3's?
These are all OPTIONS, I understand it seems a little bit too much, but that is IF you would even want to do these procedures automatically or manually, after about 1,000 go-arounds myself, I think that it would be cool to try it out. But again it is just an option. Don't get me wrong, those G1000 and other full glass displays and PFD's are doctor killers and all those pretty lights lead to CFIT and other easily preventable accidents, but remember, all those are just options...
Too much computer screen. I would have a fear of getting lost in menu screens with the G2000. The touch screen stuff would drive me mental. More aircraft video reviews AVweb please!
Wouldn't all the extra technology just mean a greater work load for the pilot ? Wouldn't that put people at unnecessary risk?
I flew a G1000 for my instrument and the glass cockpit is insanely easy for approaches. Only problem is when you lose the AHRS, which you practice for.
Very well said sir!
You are so right! Let's just forget that since the introduction of the glass cockpit in GA there has actually been an increase in aircraft accidents caused by pilots relying too heavily on a screen and not getting their damn eyes outside.
All kidding aside, I see your point for IFR flight. But, come on...what's the fun in setting the autopilot? Isn't that the point of GA? You know...you actually get to fly the plane.
How much for just the 1940's technology Engine?
as much as I love the beautiful screens, I have to agree with you. More distracting than anything else.
How shut down the engine???
Андрей Сидченко - pull the mixture.
Fastest single engined plane? A spitfire is faster, right?
I feel like this is really taking the fun out of flying. An autopilot go-around? A v-nav coupled approach? Jeez...god forbid we have to think when we fly.
AMAZING
All this technology and they still can't figure out how to get a FADEC working and certified.
TJP77 that's one reason I picked the SR22T G6 for my mission. fadec, better useful load, and a longer lasting tks system.
The mooney actually has to be in production to count....
il stick with my 152
not bad I was expecting something just over 1k
How engine off???
Вікторія Солдатова - you rip the spark plugs out.
Can this Land in a Remote Runway? Specially in a hot weather?
If I were flying this, I'd end up fiddling with the touchscreen more than flying. Concerning.
Hell of an SEP aircraft...
AVWeb, like your analysis on aircraft, but shaky videos should be left to the novice folks.
'$750k.. and you get a lot of airplane for that money'
I must be hearing things...
Sangyoon Kim heck you could buy a nice used twin for a quarter of that lol
Sangyoon Kim zzx
Cessna TTX > anything owned by china... Long Live the TTX. Gone to soon from our factories, but not from our hearts.
If I win powerball, it's mine!!!...Then again, I won't need to be a pilot anymore, lol!
The General Aviation is dead unless it can figure out a way to build quality airplanes that middle class folks can afford.
RV kits are relatively cheap right?
TheGreenMachine Yeah usually 15k to 20k at the most for any of them. ;) Although build time is usually 800 to 2100 work hours. But I think its worth it.
susanrc73 Yes but to build it well and properly, don't you need experience? Additionally, time is money. 800 hours is quite a lot of time and for most middle class working people, building the plane might take a number of years.
+WK95 say you can spend one standard day (of 8 hours) per week on the build it'd take you 2 - 3 years to complete.
That's the thing with aviation I guess. You either spend a lot of money buying or a lot of time building your craft.
Theoretically, if the market is there, the airplanes would come. I think the issue is much more that the current economic distribution distribution of wealth prevents the overwhelming majority from even having the means to take the first steps into GA (i.e. flight lessons and so forth).
The traffic alert sounds like Siri or Susan Bennett
3 quarts of a million for a hot tub with a car engine. And two ipads. It should be 50 grand.
Cirrus SR22GT anyone? What the..? They are same!
I want one.... Only if I had the money....
Thanks but Ill take a Super Cub PA18
ПРОСТО СУПЕР !!!
I once flew this airplane. Its worth 75% of its price.
3WHISKEY2life - gay.
They must have enough mark up or huge enough customer base of millionaires wanting this to produce these.
If I had millions, I'd buy many other aircraft's. Ex turbines....
Less is more in my opinion. This looks way too busy and completely ditching good ol' tactile buttons for touch screen input is not the way to go in aviation. The chance for misclicks increase using a touch screen, which cause the user to spend more time looking at screens than actually flying the aircraft. Please re-think this for ergonomic-sakes!
Pity they killed it
Too much screen for me! Th
You know you can show these videos to people all you want and how great the autopilots are, and how fast they are and how easy they are to fly. But at $700K+ you'd be crazy to buy one for that price of a pressurized turbo prop, or twin. I would rather have the latter. Just doesn't make sense.
The fuel and maintenance cost are in a whole different league for turbo props. If you can afford to run a turbo prop, cost isn't really a factor
your fate to make it...
if you went IMC to survive...
would you be castigated by your Department ofCivil Aviation
I feel the same way. I could take all that performance and fixed gear economy with just a 430W and an Aspen PFD. That's all one needs for /G capability and AHRS. The rest is just ridiculous. They are taking the fun away with such emphasis on avionics and button pushing. Even if I had the money I wouldn't commit it to such a simple aircraft. I could have the experimental version (Lancair ES) for $150K and even that's a stretch. These dopes throw these prices so nonchalantly.. GA is dead.
Hey guys... I've been building race car's and home's since the mid 80s and I'm sorry but your gonna have to excuse Me if I just DON'T SEE 700K to 750K .. call me whatever you like but I think you guys are just a little to impressed with yourselves and have made flying just another toy for the rich & shameless . I used to work for an FBO in Westchester county NY and have hands on a wide variety of old and new aircraft that just DO NOT COMMAND THAT KIND LONG CASH SORRY .. NO SALE..
Better than my A320 :(
So sad cessna killed the entire project (instead of positioning it against Cirrus)
It is NOT the fastest single engine production aircraft. The fastest fixed gear... Yea probably. But the Mooney Acclaim Type S is the fastest single engine production aircraft. 242kts true for the mooney. I'd rather have the mooney than this ttx
yes Louis, spitfires, as well as most WW2 fighters are much faster
how is it possible that modern propeller planes won't catch up to those from the 40's?
It's just not designed to go that fast, we certainly could make faster prop planes, this particular one just has a weaker engine.
*****
don't you think they can make even more powerful engines today?
Give me a Piper Cherokee...they can keep this.
for that money, ill buy an extra ea-330 thanks
+cs512tr
The TTx & Extra fill completely different roles. The TTx is your family sedan, while the Extra is your bare-bones track toy.
+White Fire (OG) is there an echo in here? lol
i know they have differences, and i am a pilot actually, so for me, I would spend MY money on an ea330.
and ive flow the extra
+cs512tr Nobody cares...
+Cap'n Dave then please post your reply to every single comment on this video.
Want
Cessna was so stupid when they decided to move out production for Mexico.. low quality everywhere, issues with fiber (off course, humidity man..) and poor sale support, killed this phenomenal airplane.
yea fly by computer ill put a computer in my lifes hands no wayyy fly by my computer my brain and hands.. to much can go wrong with computer
Jerry Stillwell - You’re an idiot. All this automation was engineered because human brains fuck up all the time.
hi this is Geof MS for Rich People consumer ! looooooooool
So... Santa Claus...
Price too high
toch sjiek éh.
I don't like it. It's just too damn much. I feel like some future accidents are going to have an eerie similarity to Eastern 401.
AVweb, why are your voice-overs so terrible? Stop trying to speak the 'King's English' and just talk. Viewers must operate volume buttons when you do a presentation. The subjects are magnificent, the presentation gets a negative vote from me.
Great toy for rich kids.
The more tech the more to go wrong
HOOOOOOOOOOT
meh I prefer the good ol 172 ;)
Avionics? flying in low sealing? I still don't trust. haha Marketing strategy of Cessna. you don't make Planes that you use to do. I go for European Aircraft so far Right now. Yes I use to Love Cessna's.
I've been looking and looking for this answer - maybe you can help. Using the Intrinzic controller, can you graphically edit a flight plan like can be done on the GTN 750?