My first inverter was a Growatt 12k, it failed after a couple of weeks and I had to send it back to be repaired. It was fixed but has tons of bugs and wont even function as a backup inverter without rebooting. I only use the charge controllers now and they throw errors all the time. I can't wait to take it out of service and throw it in the trash. I did recently purchase a 16000 xp and hope it will be a good experience. I mostly use Schneider inverters now but got the 16000 hoping it will run my AC.
Hi, Could you tell me that which one MPPT Solar Charge Controller is best for my 12V DC System. 01 easun mppt 60a 02 makeskyblue 60a 03 PowMr 60A Thanks...
I have a Sunsynk (Deye) max 16 8:47 kW since May in the UK with 13kW panels. 60kW UFO batteries 🔋 been moist ever since charging my Tesla for free. The Sunsynk interface is amazing and can be programmed from your phone. I limited battery output to 100amps (5kW) and residual to make high loads can come from solar or grid or both at once, ie 3 inputs sources of energy which is crazy. Very impressed so far.
Love your approach to discussion about this new XP ... For a novice at all this ,,, FYI - I am not using any solar ... I am using GRID to XP (LOAD) to a Critical Load breaker panel to service a portion of my house. Question #1 - If I can feed 100 Amps from the Grid to this inverter, why can I only get 50 Amps out to the LOAD ? Question #2 - I see there is a SMART LOAD option but can I combine the regular LOAD with the SMART LOAD to generate a 100 Amp combination out to the Critical Loan panel ? Question #3 - If the XP has a 100 Amp bypass and I have limited the Critical Load panel to 50 Amps (assuming the batteries are full) where does the other 50 Amps of the 100 Amps go ?
Oh sure so the way that works is if the grid is up and the inverter is in bypass mode using grid to power the loads then up to 100a can flow through from the grid to the loads. If the grid is down then the inverter can supply 50 amps (12kw) to the loads. If the grid is up and the inverter is supplying loads via battery and solar but loads call for more than 12kw/50a the inverter should drop into bypass mode and pull all of the energy from the grid instead of the inverter going into overload and shutting off.
For the 12000xp, do you guys see any issues starting with just 1 eg4 wall mount battery and then picking up another one later on for the recommended 400ah battery
It won’t hurt anything but it could be a nuisance. I had a 5kw 48v inverter connected to a battery that was 95a output. A circular saw would use more than that at startup and trip the inverter/battery.
Glad to see you putting out more videos. I’m going to have to look at getting one of these next. Can you tie this one to the 6000xp to the 12000 or will it have to be two separate systems?
still a HF invertor, even though I have the 6000XP and use it for my mini splits, I wonder if it will last as long as my Victron 48v 3000 va lf invertor ""powers the house loads" I bought the 6000XP as it was too good of a deal to pass up.
Thanks Ive! It’s good to be back. Business has been…busy. Which is good but it’s taken me away from here! Need to get back with you guys and collaborate on some things.
Oh yeah that’s how you free up the gen port for an ac coupled device or smart load right? And off grid mode prevents back feeding the generator through the grid port. So many settings to change, lol.
I am using about 20kw a day, or 1kw per hour. I would need about 3-4kw solar panel; 6-8 hours sunlight x 3kw solar pnels =18-24kw energy collected daily.
The spec I am excited for is that it says 24kW AC pass through. I just want an inverter that can pass through enough power to run the big stuff that's not good for solar. I have been hoping tona oud getting an 18kPV. Since I bought through a reseller they won't give me the trade in deals.
Yeah and the fact two of them are less than a single 18kpv but double the ac output is pretty slick. I want to see double 28kw solar arrays on a double 12000xp, lol. Thats a beefy system.
Remove 2 panels and you have 1 string, insane pv , 38x 745w (warree?) panels to max out, or 56x 500w panels, 10k in panels on sale. 3kw+pv in heavy rain with dark clouds. This is going to fuel my solar addiction, Lux enablers.
I'd say the most exciting thing about this unit is the 50 amp smart load. If off grid people realize just how much heat they can actually store up for the winter? These things are going to sell like hot cakes.
@@cb.7814 Do a RUclips search for Polar Night Energy. Ive basically built myself a small version of their design. And buried it next to my house. You can copy anyone, as long as you are not selling it to others for profit.
Exporting power, It is critical for the inverter to sequence the sinusoidal waveform with the grid. If it connects and is out of phase there is a short circuit up to the capacity of the inverter.
Curious your thoughts on that. I think the grid the inverters have to be 10 years for financing and installers as they have minimums. I was looking at midnite and outback and it seems they are standard at 5 year. I mean don’t get me wrong 10 is better but maybe 5 is the industry standard for off grid.
How are you liking it? I've seen it but haven't touched it. Any bugs you've had to deal with? Do you know if it's a rebadge of another brand or is it a Midnite original?
Grid providers do not have the time or manpower to investigate individual consumption idiosyncrasies. Your entire streets power consumption is completely with the utilities margin of error.
I have multiple stories of people getting a knock on the door from the utility due to odd power usage. One was using an eg4 off grid inverter and it was back feeding the grid occasionally and the other had gone off grid so their monthly consumption was zero and utility had to come by and check they hadn’t bypassed the meter. Two different utilities. So yes they find the time apparently.
That is going to be interesting. We going back to combiner boxes? Gonna need three strings of panels to max out an input unless it’s 650w 40voc monsters.
I would not stand too close to these, low cost, high frequency inverters without wearing EMF radiation proof underwear if I were you. The high-frequency EMF that is emitted by these low cost high frequency inverters is considered more potentially dangerous than the low-frequency EMF from low frequency inverters because higher frequencies carry more energy and can potentially damage cells and DNA more readily, especially when exposure levels are high; this is why radiation like X-rays and gamma rays, which are high-frequency forms of EMF, are considered ionizing and can be harmful to living tissue.
You went over this unit really well! Nice video.
Love hearing you talk about solar. Feels like a podcast!
Just bought me a 6000xp for a fun project, looking forward to seeing how it works.
I am thinking about that as well but I am in the fence now. 12k is more than 6k inverter!
Yeah really like the specs on this unit! EG4 made a great decision changing all inverters to luxpower. Good work
Good breakdown of the specs. I’m looking forward to seeing this inverter.
Thank you for the awesome breakdown! This is gonna be one heck of a unit.
My first inverter was a Growatt 12k, it failed after a couple of weeks and I had to send it back to be repaired. It was fixed but has tons of bugs and wont even function as a backup inverter without rebooting. I only use the charge controllers now and they throw errors all the time. I can't wait to take it out of service and throw it in the trash. I did recently purchase a 16000 xp and hope it will be a good experience. I mostly use Schneider inverters now but got the 16000 hoping it will run my AC.
Welcome back sir!
Hi, Could you tell me that which one MPPT Solar Charge Controller is best for my 12V DC System.
01 easun mppt 60a
02 makeskyblue 60a
03 PowMr 60A
Thanks...
I'm curious what the noise level is with this machine compared to two 6000xps.
Yes I’m excited to see as well.
Excellent video!
Thank you!
I have a Sunsynk (Deye) max 16 8:47 kW since May in the UK with 13kW panels. 60kW UFO batteries 🔋 been moist ever since charging my Tesla for free.
The Sunsynk interface is amazing and can be programmed from your phone.
I limited battery output to 100amps (5kW) and residual to make high loads can come from solar or grid or both at once, ie 3 inputs sources of energy which is crazy. Very impressed so far.
Love your approach to discussion about this new XP ...
For a novice at all this ,,, FYI - I am not using any solar ... I am using GRID to XP (LOAD) to a Critical Load breaker panel to service a portion of my house.
Question #1 - If I can feed 100 Amps from the Grid to this inverter, why can I only get 50 Amps out to the LOAD ?
Question #2 - I see there is a SMART LOAD option but can I combine the regular LOAD with the SMART LOAD to generate a 100 Amp combination out to the Critical Loan panel ?
Question #3 - If the XP has a 100 Amp bypass and I have limited the Critical Load panel to 50 Amps (assuming the batteries are full) where does the other 50 Amps of the 100 Amps go ?
Oh sure so the way that works is if the grid is up and the inverter is in bypass mode using grid to power the loads then up to 100a can flow through from the grid to the loads.
If the grid is down then the inverter can supply 50 amps (12kw) to the loads.
If the grid is up and the inverter is supplying loads via battery and solar but loads call for more than 12kw/50a the inverter should drop into bypass mode and pull all of the energy from the grid instead of the inverter going into overload and shutting off.
For the 12000xp, do you guys see any issues starting with just 1 eg4 wall mount battery and then picking up another one later on for the recommended 400ah battery
It won’t hurt anything but it could be a nuisance. I had a 5kw 48v inverter connected to a battery that was 95a output. A circular saw would use more than that at startup and trip the inverter/battery.
Glad to see you putting out more videos. I’m going to have to look at getting one of these next. Can you tie this one to the 6000xp to the 12000 or will it have to be two separate systems?
Thanks! I’m trying! I haven’t looked at paralleling but suspect it cannot parallel with the 6000xp.
@ I have a few videos going out this week that I talk about your help
still a HF invertor, even though I have the 6000XP and use it for my mini splits, I wonder if it will last as long as my Victron 48v 3000 va lf invertor ""powers the house loads" I bought the 6000XP as it was too good of a deal to pass up.
You can run a 5 ton air conditioner on this thing with ease. And not worry about the well pump kicking in at the same time either.
@@davefroman4700 I think the question was about longevity between Victron and EG4
Good stuff Mr Beene.
Do you install these for people
Welcome back my man, hope all is well. Me and setite were just taking about you. How's business?
Thanks Ive! It’s good to be back. Business has been…busy. Which is good but it’s taken me away from here! Need to get back with you guys and collaborate on some things.
Great.
Maybe this will flood the market with used 6000XP units.
Save this poor boy some coin.
Hey that’s one way to look at it! Already saw someone wanting to dump their brand new 12kpv in favor of one.
wow... I m that guy...I have a growatt 5k...Thinking of next unit
Ha ha I found you!
Curious, what has you looking for something different? What does or doesn’t work well with the 5k?
why only 5 year warranty? Will it only last that long? interested in it but want something that will last
5 years seems to be standard for off grid inverters. Midnite and Outback are the same.
Wow thats pretty powerful!!
In off grid mode you can run a generator as input to charge the batteries.
Oh yeah that’s how you free up the gen port for an ac coupled device or smart load right? And off grid mode prevents back feeding the generator through the grid port.
So many settings to change, lol.
Is 70w ideal consumption a lot?
No I think it’s reasonable. I was only ranting that it’s slightly higher than the 6000xp.
I’m just hoping they come out with a 3kW LuxPower variant to replace the 3000EHV
😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
I am using about 20kw a day, or 1kw per hour.
I would need about 3-4kw solar panel; 6-8 hours sunlight x 3kw solar pnels =18-24kw energy collected daily.
The spec I am excited for is that it says 24kW AC pass through. I just want an inverter that can pass through enough power to run the big stuff that's not good for solar. I have been hoping tona oud getting an 18kPV. Since I bought through a reseller they won't give me the trade in deals.
Yeah and the fact two of them are less than a single 18kpv but double the ac output is pretty slick.
I want to see double 28kw solar arrays on a double 12000xp, lol. Thats a beefy system.
Remove 2 panels and you have 1 string, insane pv , 38x 745w (warree?) panels to max out, or 56x 500w panels, 10k in panels on sale. 3kw+pv in heavy rain with dark clouds. This is going to fuel my solar addiction, Lux enablers.
I'd say the most exciting thing about this unit is the 50 amp smart load. If off grid people realize just how much heat they can actually store up for the winter? These things are going to sell like hot cakes.
Could you please explain what that means?
@@cb.7814 Ive basically built myself a miniature version of this. ruclips.net/video/bZ9TyJ1bQ3Y/видео.html
@@cb.7814 Do a RUclips search for Polar Night Energy. Ive basically built myself a small version of their design. And buried it next to my house. You can copy anyone, as long as you are not selling it to others for profit.
Exporting power, It is critical for the inverter to sequence the sinusoidal waveform with the grid. If it connects and is out of phase there is a short circuit up to the capacity of the inverter.
The 5 year warranty on this XP model is a show stopper IMO. The KPV's have a 10 year warranty.
Curious your thoughts on that. I think the grid the inverters have to be 10 years for financing and installers as they have minimums. I was looking at midnite and outback and it seems they are standard at 5 year. I mean don’t get me wrong 10 is better but maybe 5 is the industry standard for off grid.
Is grid tie ??
This unit will not export to the grid. It can pull from the grid as needed.
I would buy all your solar now as Trump's tarrifs may add 60% to the price
I have the new midnite aio but if this was coming out a few months ago I probably would’ve gone this route
How are you liking it? I've seen it but haven't touched it. Any bugs you've had to deal with? Do you know if it's a rebadge of another brand or is it a Midnite original?
I which they had more variety of inverter like an 8k or 10k😔
lol If electricians had a calendar for their 'models', this dude would be December. lol ( my gf said he's cute af.. does not do good for my ego) lol
Ha ha made my day.
Grid providers do not have the time or manpower to investigate individual consumption idiosyncrasies. Your entire streets power consumption is completely with the utilities margin of error.
I have multiple stories of people getting a knock on the door from the utility due to odd power usage. One was using an eg4 off grid inverter and it was back feeding the grid occasionally and the other had gone off grid so their monthly consumption was zero and utility had to come by and check they hadn’t bypassed the meter. Two different utilities. So yes they find the time apparently.
only 2 mppts is kinda a drawback
That is going to be interesting. We going back to combiner boxes? Gonna need three strings of panels to max out an input unless it’s 650w 40voc monsters.
I would not stand too close to these, low cost, high frequency inverters without wearing EMF radiation proof underwear if I were you. The high-frequency EMF that is emitted by these low cost high frequency inverters is considered more potentially dangerous than the low-frequency EMF from low frequency inverters because higher frequencies carry more energy and can potentially damage cells and DNA more readily, especially when exposure levels are high; this is why radiation like X-rays and gamma rays, which are high-frequency forms of EMF, are considered ionizing and can be harmful to living tissue.