Loving your videos and looking forward to your next video showing the install. I saw the gridboss come on the market but didn’t understand what it did. I’m a contractor builder with some wiring experience but get frustrated with a lot of the content out there which assumes you know solar and or just isn’t explained clearly. I want a similar set up with grid back up, no sell back, and also want a way to regulate my hot tub and pool pump (at night, low sun, or grid down) so they won’t drain my batteries quickly since these are my biggest loads. I could also be cooling my well insulated house when hot out and the solar is cranking, not to mention a future EV hook up. The gridboss looks perfect for this and should ultimately allow for a system that requires less battery storage especially being that I’m in a sunny area. Thanks again for a great video. I’m excited about this set up!!
You mentioned only use copper and confirmed in the manual. My 200 amp feed wire is 4/0 triplex (aluminum). If I add the Eaton breaker, aluminum should be fine as the breaker is aluminum rated. Definitely can save money by keeping the aluminum instead of buying 50’ of copper.
I was looking at the Flex/Grid boss combo. But having to run copper from the meter seems crazy to me. Maybe adding a coupler to the aluminum going into the main panel and converting to copper then connecting to the Grid Boss?
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The manual states that it's not to be installed on a flammable material. Is the wood wall a problem?
Follow the manual on the install instructions to make sure you meet code requirements. My setup is a temporary setup so I can quickly switch out units to test them.
OK so I took a look at the GridBoss manual and it is conflicting on the temperature. In the specs section it specifies a maximum ambient operating temp of 140 degrees F. But then it adds that lower maximum temp in the written section. I hope this is a typo because if it isnt you would NEVER be able to install one of these in Florida next to your meter if there is any time of the day with sunlight. I guess I will call EG4 monday to confirm as this will cause a complete re-engineering of my system.
@@unpluggedtexan wonder how important it is to not be in direct sunlight here in the NW. ideally, I would install it on the west side of my house. Might have to build something for shade.
@@unpluggedtexan Well I wouldnt call it a mistake, it says in the manual 113 degrees in one spot and 140 in another. I just hope 140 is the right number. :) Great channel you have and I hope this thing is the game changer we think it is.
@ thanks for letting me know it said 113 degrees somewhere in the manual. I was thinking how in the heck I came up with that number after a couple people pointed out that the spec sheet says 140 😂. I knew I read it in the manual!
I started installing my Flexboss and Gridboss today. When setting up the Flexboss, the manual states you have to enable the MIDBOX setting under advanced settings , or Gridboss will not turn on. (and it didn't) In the App and the EG4 Monitor website, the MIDBOX tab isn't there even after the firmware update. Also, Signature Solar tech support looked at my setup/system and is at a loss on what to do. I got the Flexboss wired and powered up, but the Gridboss is not playing nice..... Was told I need to wait until Monday for the really smart EG4 guys to come to work. 😢
Thats good to know. I have not turned anything on yet and there will be a slight delay waiting for the 90a breaker anyway and my battery firmware update cable. Guess I accidentally dodged a bullet. Except that no mounting in the sun for the Gridboss may have me redesigning now.
@jerryfaircloth I have to update one of my batteries also. Tested the RSD, and only one battery tripped the breaker. Also, I got an email that my 90 amp breaker shipped today. I used the 80 amp breaker just to get things going (or trying to.)
Thanks for the post, looking forward to more content.. Say I have the 12000xp off grid, can I just wire it into the generator input of the gridboss, and have it run the loads with grid present at the grid boss, what is the transfer speed between grid and generator input and back to grid, can I choose to stay on generator power?
@@frostyfroze7352 yes you will be able to hook the 6000xp or any other inverter to the generator port to supplement power. I didn’t want to go into detail on that in the video though as it’s not officially stated you can do it in the manual. But I have been told by tech support that is an option.
@ ok yea thanks, Another question, so with the gridboss installed, and the flex boss in a separate garage, can I have a sub panel in the separate garage from the flex boss directly or will that require another wire run form that house panel?
One disadvantage to this over using a couple 10 circuit manual transfer switches is if there is an EMP and the smart circuits fail, will you be able to power your loads? Will you be able to access the Gridboss? With the manual transfer switch there are no smarts to go out. Is this EMP hardened? I don't think EG4 has made that announcement that I've heard on this or the FlexBoss but I suspect the FlexBoss will be. Since the grid port on the inverter is bidirectional can you use that one line to pull energy from the grid to charge the batteries with it? Great job mentioning the idle 20w it uses, that is important and I didn't know that after reading the manual! It also appears it's less efficient than the 18kPV with solar to the battery or solar to the grid. Also - I love your videos. You and I think similarly so that may be why but IMO you do a good job laying out what matters and keeping it clear and concise.
@@reviews2you unofficial word is that the gridboss and flexboss are in the EMP certification process. So hopefully we’ll get confirmation in the future on that. Yes you will be able to grid charge your batteries due to that bidirectional power flow.
SPECULATION (Correct me if this is wrong): In a completely OFF GRID system, I would think that the LOAD L1 & L2 would suffice, since you are never backfeeding the inverters from the Grid. Power is only sent to the Grid Boss from the Inverters. Having said that, if you had multiple inverters in parallel, it would seem you could supply the output from each system to the Grid Boss, without having to compensate for Phase, and the Grid Boss would balance usage from all sources. So if you had 2 18kPVs in parallel, couldn’t you take the output into one port on the GRID BOSS from that entire system, and then if you add two 21kPV in parallel use a second port, leaving the 3rd port for future expansion?
Even if it would work, you would have the limit of 90A in on each of the Inverter inputs. I think it would be more cost effective for a fully off-grid setup to wire things the "normal" way and forget using the Gridboss.
EG4 does rigorous field testing before releasing their products. That being said, it is a new product so I’m sure there will be some bugs that will need to be worked out. But I’m pretty confident this will end up working as expected.
I’ve been waiting for an actual install video of the gridboss. Glad you’re the first one I enjoy your content.
Loving your videos and looking forward to your next video showing the install. I saw the gridboss come on the market but didn’t understand what it did. I’m a contractor builder with some wiring experience but get frustrated with a lot of the content out there which assumes you know solar and or just isn’t explained clearly. I want a similar set up with grid back up, no sell back, and also want a way to regulate my hot tub and pool pump (at night, low sun, or grid down) so they won’t drain my batteries quickly since these are my biggest loads. I could also be cooling my well insulated house when hot out and the solar is cranking, not to mention a future EV hook up. The gridboss looks perfect for this and should ultimately allow for a system that requires less battery storage especially being that I’m in a sunny area. Thanks again for a great video. I’m excited about this set up!!
Very nice setup. Very clean
Needs labels on the Smart Ports telling you the AMPS!
You mentioned only use copper and confirmed in the manual. My 200 amp feed wire is 4/0 triplex (aluminum). If I add the Eaton breaker, aluminum should be fine as the breaker is aluminum rated. Definitely can save money by keeping the aluminum instead of buying 50’ of copper.
I was looking at the Flex/Grid boss combo. But having to run copper from the meter seems crazy to me. Maybe adding a coupler to the aluminum going into the main panel and converting to copper then connecting to the Grid Boss?
The manual states that it's not to be installed on a flammable material. Is the wood wall a problem?
Follow the manual on the install instructions to make sure you meet code requirements. My setup is a temporary setup so I can quickly switch out units to test them.
It looks like the settings for the INVERTERS would be full time export, any time of use settings would be in the gridboss itself
@@michiganengineer8621 yes that is correct.
OK so I took a look at the GridBoss manual and it is conflicting on the temperature. In the specs section it specifies a maximum ambient operating temp of 140 degrees F. But then it adds that lower maximum temp in the written section. I hope this is a typo because if it isnt you would NEVER be able to install one of these in Florida next to your meter if there is any time of the day with sunlight. I guess I will call EG4 monday to confirm as this will cause a complete re-engineering of my system.
@@jerryfaircloth yeah my mistake. I actually just added a caption to the video correcting that. It has a 140F degree max operating temp.
@@unpluggedtexan wonder how important it is to not be in direct sunlight here in the NW. ideally, I would install it on the west side of my house. Might have to build something for shade.
I'm placing one in a conditioned Orlando garage to extend its life
@@unpluggedtexan Well I wouldnt call it a mistake, it says in the manual 113 degrees in one spot and 140 in another. I just hope 140 is the right number. :) Great channel you have and I hope this thing is the game changer we think it is.
@ thanks for letting me know it said 113 degrees somewhere in the manual. I was thinking how in the heck I came up with that number after a couple people pointed out that the spec sheet says 140 😂. I knew I read it in the manual!
I started installing my Flexboss and Gridboss today.
When setting up the Flexboss, the manual states you have to enable the MIDBOX setting under advanced settings , or Gridboss will not turn on. (and it didn't)
In the App and the EG4 Monitor website, the MIDBOX tab isn't there even after the firmware update. Also, Signature Solar tech support looked at my setup/system and is at a loss on what to do. I got the Flexboss wired and powered up, but the Gridboss is not playing nice..... Was told I need to wait until Monday for the really smart EG4 guys to come to work. 😢
Thats good to know. I have not turned anything on yet and there will be a slight delay waiting for the 90a breaker anyway and my battery firmware update cable. Guess I accidentally dodged a bullet. Except that no mounting in the sun for the Gridboss may have me redesigning now.
@jerryfaircloth I have to update one of my batteries also. Tested the RSD, and only one battery tripped the breaker. Also, I got an email that my 90 amp breaker shipped today.
I used the 80 amp breaker just to get things going (or trying to.)
Had the same issue. Philip in tech support got it up and going. Been working great.
Thanks for the post, looking forward to more content..
Say I have the 12000xp off grid, can I just wire it into the generator input of the gridboss, and have it run the loads with grid present at the grid boss, what is the transfer speed between grid and generator input and back to grid, can I choose to stay on generator power?
@@frostyfroze7352 yes you will be able to hook the 6000xp or any other inverter to the generator port to supplement power. I didn’t want to go into detail on that in the video though as it’s not officially stated you can do it in the manual. But I have been told by tech support that is an option.
@ ok yea thanks,
Another question, so with the gridboss installed, and the flex boss in a separate garage, can I have a sub panel in the separate garage from the flex boss directly or will that require another wire run form that house panel?
One disadvantage to this over using a couple 10 circuit manual transfer switches is if there is an EMP and the smart circuits fail, will you be able to power your loads? Will you be able to access the Gridboss? With the manual transfer switch there are no smarts to go out. Is this EMP hardened? I don't think EG4 has made that announcement that I've heard on this or the FlexBoss but I suspect the FlexBoss will be. Since the grid port on the inverter is bidirectional can you use that one line to pull energy from the grid to charge the batteries with it? Great job mentioning the idle 20w it uses, that is important and I didn't know that after reading the manual! It also appears it's less efficient than the 18kPV with solar to the battery or solar to the grid.
Also - I love your videos. You and I think similarly so that may be why but IMO you do a good job laying out what matters and keeping it clear and concise.
@@reviews2you unofficial word is that the gridboss and flexboss are in the EMP certification process. So hopefully we’ll get confirmation in the future on that. Yes you will be able to grid charge your batteries due to that bidirectional power flow.
So they finally caught up to others like Schneider who have had these type of units for quite a while.
Thank you
SPECULATION (Correct me if this is wrong):
In a completely OFF GRID system,
I would think that the LOAD L1 & L2 would suffice, since you are never backfeeding the inverters from the Grid. Power is only sent to the Grid Boss from the Inverters.
Having said that, if you had multiple inverters in parallel,
it would seem you could supply the output from each system to the Grid Boss, without having to compensate for Phase, and the Grid Boss would balance usage from all sources.
So if you had 2 18kPVs in parallel,
couldn’t you take the output into one port on the GRID BOSS from that entire system, and then if you add two 21kPV in parallel use a second port, leaving the 3rd port for future expansion?
i now think my above assumptions are INCORRECT
Even if it would work, you would have the limit of 90A in on each of the Inverter inputs. I think it would be more cost effective for a fully off-grid setup to wire things the "normal" way and forget using the Gridboss.
Everyone talking about what it can do not one person has connected it so far. How do you know it can do what you are saying?
EG4 does rigorous field testing before releasing their products. That being said, it is a new product so I’m sure there will be some bugs that will need to be worked out. But I’m pretty confident this will end up working as expected.
I’ve been using it for 3 days. So far working flawless with 18K PV.
Those tariff are going to priceout all Chinese products... get it while is hot.
But ummm, this isn’t a battery. 🤷♂️
I’ve been waiting for an actual install video of the gridboss. Glad you’re the first one I enjoy your content.