Where Is The Mercedes Kompressor M111 Turbo Project?
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2024
- I'm aware a lot of viewers are wondering where the M111 mercedes 230 Kompressor project is, well it is still hear sat in a corner waiting for some love. Basically the pistons are proving the hard part especially with trying to do this with only Mercedes parts.
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All mercedes parts might be a challenge, but its gonna make the benz name and m111 series formidable man. Awesome to see youre using an evo head, the port characteristics are definitely better on the intake side, and the alloy in these heads stood the test of time and corrosion on my m111.955k well. Blown headgasket, multiple overheads and fully clogged coolant ports and yet still only 1 thousands of an inch was cut on 1 pass when resurfacing the head, basically no warpage! We ended up doing the whole valve job, seals, cut valves and seats and even decided to do some porting. Funnily enough my mechanic whos been active in motorsport for 40+ years and does some insane porting for JDM engines said the ports have alot of room so he didnt even need to remove much material, dimple floored the top of the intake ports and rough ported the bottom to ease fuel cohesion at high flow. Needless to say the EVO head was a huge upgrade to the M111 and I wish you luck in finding pistons!
Yeah intake side of the head is definitely the most improved part with larger ports better flow but also I believe uses sodium filled valves which the pre Evo engine should have done but for some reason didn't. Once I have the pistons I am looking forward to getting it all put together and see what it can do 👍, it's just a bit of a waiting game especially with a non existent budget too, but we will get there
We are all looking forward to the end product dude and i feel for you with constant daily issues
There should be a charity that protects cars from me 🤣
Hi Alex, you got one of the best channel regarding m111 engines, and there are few thinks that I would like to apply to my slk to make it more fun. How can I contact you directly?
Thank you 🙏 and to contact me directly by email alex.moneleven@gmail.com buddy I respond as and when I have time but I do try to set aside time each week for dealing with comments and emails, working 6 days a week and family life along with the channel growth has certainly made things a bit of a balancing act, ide like to do far more on the channel for folks to watch..
@@M-oneeleven-M111 no worries, if it was regard one topic, it would be just a comment. Looking forward for you view on my idea.
I already run a 230K EVO head with a 230K pre-evo engine block on my 2002 SLK R170 facelift with no issues whatsoever. (Was previously a 230K EVO engine - M111.983 - 197 bhp)
However I'm currently running a boosted kompressor setup with an Eaton M62 and not a Turbo build. I still don't have any numbers to show but I plan on measuring it come spring/summer time.
I'm intrested in your project and what can be done with different internal parts combos. Hope you can find something better / stronger for these engines. :)
What was wrong with the evo block that you went with the pre-evo afterwards, i was under the impression that they were reinforced along with the newer head unless you used pre-evo for availability.
@@samurboi8007 There was an issue with the original EVO engine block or the cranckshaft oil galleries (I think) because the engine was making strange noises when working coming from the bottom end. Even after I removed all accessory belts and fired it up - the same noise was coming from the bottom. I changed the rod bearings once as they were showing some wear signs, but the issue remained. I pulled the engine out and tried getting the engine block and rotating assembly to a few different repair shops, but no one really wanted to mess with it.. I guess there was oil starvation / oil pressure drop in the crankshaft for some reason. It wasn't worth the time and money to investigate it any further, as I had a few cars for spares in my possession already.
So eventually I decided to fulfill my idea of making a Frankenstein build with an EVO head and electronics but a pre-EVO engine block and an Eaton M62 as it is a bigger unit than the EVOs M45 supercharger. I didn't really lose any strenght going with the pre-EVO block, as my power levels are too low to matter. Also the pre-EVO cylinder walls are more durable as the EVO engine uses a fancy NIKASIL / ALUSIL (or something) layer to reduce friction. And that layer is more susceptible to wear after 20+ years and thousands of miles.
@@alexanderivanov2022 ah i understand thats kinda worrying for me considering if i have block issues i dont have any m111s locally to swap lol. Thats an awesome project though and the eaton m62 sounds promising on the EVOs architecture for sure. My evo block happens to have 270,000kms but was well maintained and still retained the factory cross hatching
@@samurboi8007 It could be just bad maintenance from the previous owner / owners. These engines can usually oulast the car easily so I guess I just had a bit of bad luck.
That being said - this opened the door for my idea to pair an M62 kompressor with an EVO engine so I'm happy with the overall outcome. :)
@@alexanderivanov2022Did you use stock Siemens ECU and MAF from the EVO M111 with your project of Eaton m62?
Cant wait to see the final product ehat ecu are you gona use on it.
awesome thank you, I will be running a megasquirt 3 on it basically the ECU our turbo Slk was running on 👍
Just wish i was closer to you i have a w202 c180 fiited a 230 k is still running the standard 180 ecu wish is not giving the kompresor signal to boost when under load and here in my country namibia 230 k is scares unllike the norma l 230
@@carlomauers5138 Your ecu may not have the mosfet to control the bypass valve, unless its the clutched supercharger which also needs a mosfet that may be missing on the 180 NA ecu. No clue as to how the bosch ME ecus came though, but if its a non kompressor ecu then it might not even have the coding for the supercharger, and in that case just ditch the electronic bypass valve and go fixed clutch on the SC
@@samurboi8007 ifi gave you my email will jou able to send me a step by step on how to go that road please
Can you not go to Mercedes with the Reg number from a N/A 2.3 and get pistons that way
Did you measure compression ratio with 102 rod and diesel crank? There might be space to skim block for a bit to increase cr
That is actually a good idea, if the timing would still line up and not leave the chain too slack that's definitely a option with the piston to deck clearance.
Hey i was wondering if i purchased the m112k 32amg motor. Would it swap right into my slk230 kompressor? Ive heard one person say that the steering box or whatever would be in the way but ive also seen people swap massove v8s with no problem into one. Im really determined on doing this swap so i need to know. I would think they had the same steering rack but i dont know
Hi, so steering box is lower on the V6 models so you would need the steering set up from a slk320, also the bell housing is different on the transmission between the straight engines and the V engines also the 230 transmission isn't rated for anywhere near the torque of a V6... So you would need a 32AMG engine and transmission, and the prop shaft and diff from a SLK320 due to ratios, also little things like the radiator and exhaust system along with ECU and key and ignition barrel module and transmission computer full wiring harness. It's perfectly doable but a lot of work and expense by the time your done it may well be more cost effective to buy a Slk32, however I do appreciate they're rare now, so it's a case of how much time and money you want to invest in a project
How did you get 3rd and 4th piston to TDC at same time?
Only one rod is bolted to the crank the other is is free floating
Ok i was just curious.. and what about your slk? I am losing my patience with compressor as ive tried 3 diameters of pulleys on SC and all of them do ECU cutoff on partial throtle with delayed BOV, original BPV is still opened (i tried another BPV from working car)