JS GIGUERE SPEAKS OUT ABOUT CONNOR McDAVID REJECTING THE CONN SMYTHE
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We're going over Edmonton Oilers captain Connor McDavid not accepting the Conn Smythe, and what former Anaheim Ducks goaltender JS Giguere had to say about it.
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This video is taking place after the 2023 NHL Entry Draft, and after the 2024 Stanley Cup Playoffs.
The 2023 NHL Draft 1st Round went as follows:
1st) Chicago Blackhawks, Connor Bedard
2nd) Anaheim Ducks, Leo Carlsson
3rd) Columbus Blue Jackets, Adam Fantilli
4th) San Jose Sharks, Will Smith
5th) Montreal Canadiens, David Reinbacher
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29th) St. Louis Blues (from Dallas Stars via New York Rangers), Theo Lindstein
30th) Carolina Hurricanes, Bradley Nadeau
31st) Colorado Avalanche (from Florida Panthers via Montreal Canadiens), Mikhail Gulyayev
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This video is also taking place after 2024 NHL Season, and after the 2024 Stanley Cup Playoffs, where the Florida Panthers defeated the Edmonton Oilers in the Finals.
Connor McDavid was the first overall pick at the 2015 NHL Entry Draft.
The 2015 NHL Entry Draft saw many top NHL prospects get selected by a variety of teams. The Top 28 of the draft went as follows:
1st - Edmonton Oilers, Connor McDavid
2nd - Buffalo Sabres, Jack Eichel
3rd - Arizona Coyotes, Dylan Strome
4th - Toronto Maple Leafs, Mitch Marner
5th - Carolina Hurricanes, Noah Hanifin
6th - New Jersey Devils, Pavel Zacha
7th - Philadelphia Flyers, Ivan Provorov
8th - Columbus Blue Jackets, Zach Werenski
9th - San Jose Sharks, Timo Meier
10th - Colorado Avalanche, Mikko Rantanen
11th - Florida Panthers, Lawson Crouse
12th - Dallas Stars, Denis Gurianov
13th - Boston Bruins (from Los Angeles Kings), Jakub Zboril
14th - Boston Bruins, Jake DeBrusk
15th - Boston Bruins (from Calgary Flames), Zachary Senyshyn
16th - New York Islanders (from Pittsburgh Penguins via Edmonton Oilers), Mathew Barzal
17th - Winnipeg Jets, Kyle Connor
18th - Ottawa Senators, Thomas Chabot
19th - Detroit Red Wings, Evgeny Svechnikov
20th - Minnesota Wild, Joel Eriksson Ek
21st - Ottawa Senators (from New York Islanders via Buffalo Sabres), Colin White
22nd - Washington Capitals, Ilya Samsonov
23rd - Vancouver Canucks, Brock Boeser
24th - Philadelphia Flyers (from Nashville Predators via Toronto Maple Leafs), Travis Konecny
25th - Winnipeg Jets (from St. Louis Blues via Buffalo Sabres), Jack Roslovic
26th - Montreal Canadiens, Noah Juulsen
27th - Anaheim Ducks, Jacob Larsson
28th - New York Islanders (from New York Rangers via Tampa Bay Lightning), Anthony Beauvillier
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Completely disagree with that take. He showed exactly how to lose by leading the handshake line then waiting for every play on his team to leave the ice before him, then being with his team which is where he should be. Going out to receive a trophy in front of a crowd of people that have no interest in seeing you is stupid
He would have received a huge ovation from the Florida fans ( and the thousands of Oilers fans that travelled all that way to see the game live ) ..... but he decided not to accept it. He showed his immaturity by making a bad decision. Kids make mistakes, men win Stanley Cups (Barkov)
@@glennhankins6927 when his name was announced he was booed. it was also long after he had came off the ice, which he probably had taken off at least some of his equipment
I disagree, I think it shows humility by going to get it.
@@glennhankins6927 bro are you braindead? the low iq florida fans were booing mcdavid when he got announced for conn smythe
I don't care either way, not sure why stuff this small has to be put under a microscope. Giguere had the monster sized equipment, dude has been irrelevant since they started regulating equipment size more
If they award the conn smythe to a player on the losing team, especially if it's not on home ice, they should just have it ready for him to receive right after the handshake line so they can grt it over with and let the winning team celebrate their cup win wothout that distraction
I agree, and IMO that's the real issue, not "why didn't Conner accept the trophy?" but "why did Betman wait until 5+ minutes AFTER McDavid had left the ice to finally be bothered to announce the winner?" For all we know, McDavid was in the shower or nude and not in any position to come back out on the ice by then.
From now on award it before the handshake line either way
@@Seriously_UnseriousHe also could have been in the locker room giving his players a pep talk which at the time woulda seemed more important. "Hey guys we battled hard, we gave it our.....hold on I gotta go back out"
It should not matter. Win or lose. McDavid showed that he's McBaby. Shows you enough about his character
@@jerrylee3887 you really are detached
This is ridiculous. The internet craves something to be outraged about
ya who wants to accept the trophy when panther fans are booing and you already lost the cup.
Hextall is equally qualified to speak on this. Love to hear what he thought
Same. I remember him saying in an interview about winning the conn smythe "it meant nothing to me then, it means nothing to me now". Yet he still accepted the award.
@@jmarx3943 100!!
Individual Trophy
Team player
Not the one he wanted
that is called sulking
No humility
They have an awards ceremony where they hand out all the trophies (minus stanley cup) on a different day why not then?. For all we know he was in the shower, or in the middle of a speach. We have no idea why he didnt come out to recieve it everybody is jumping to conclusions
Fully agree. Let the Stanley Cup Final be for the Stanley Cup. Leave the other awards for another night.
I agree with you the ceremony already exists why not present then.
When Ron Hextall won they presented it to him of the ice, backstage.
I think the bigger issue is being buried here: Why the HELL did Betman wait until over 5 minutes AFTER McDavid had left the ice to finally be bothered to announce him as the winner? Could he even hear the PA from the locker room? Was he in the shower or on the can? Was he changing back into his street clothes by then? Maybe he didn't come out to accept it because he physically couldn't, not without becoming Connor McStreaker and that's probably not a photo anyone wants to see, certainly not with kids watching.
I agree that were logistical issues that came into play. With the three star selections, they have a PR person that catches you on the way back to the locker. I find it hard to believe that he was not notified until the presentation. My guess is that they gave him the option to come out and he declined it. This is a clear "damned if you do, damned if you don't situation" for McDavid. I'm sure he'll have a chance at the Awards presentation to give the league it's photo-op.
To all of the boneheads out there who think 97 was a poor sport and a baby for not accepting the award... we'd like to see you in the same situation... you are regarded as the best player in the world, the captain of a team that could finally win one for Canada after 30 years, coming back from 3 games down in a fashion not repeated since 1942... but in game 7, you come up with nothing in a losing effort... sure, you racked up a lot of points, but you didn't get your team to the final single-handedly, because a lot of the role players contributed too... the ENTIRE team battled so hard, with so much at stake, could have been legendary heroes... but it didn't happen. Win as a team, lose as a team. All of your fellow soldiers are gutted, but YOU get to accept an award, in front of enemy fans, for being the best player... while your teammates, your fans, and all of Canada, lie bleeding? McDavid decided not to be anything above his teammates. Nah, it's entirely on the NHL for making it so awkward. In the rare case where the Conn Smythe winner is on the losing team, it should be announced via a single graphic displayed on the scoreboard. Presented, acknowledged, done. Let the winning team celebrate, and leave the runners-up alone so that they can mourn their defeat in private.
Nah you still have to be a Pro, that's like winning a Silver Medal and not wanting to accept it because you wanted Gold
might be good for hockey to present Conn Smythe trophy a few days after last game of Stanley Cup finals
The NHL Awards Show would work as a medium to do so, if they want to.
Did McDavid even have an opportunity to accept the trophy on the ice? As you pointed out, he had left a few minutes earlier. I do not find it hard to imagine no one calling him back for the Conn Smythe Trophy, and him only learning that he had won it after the fact.
Giguere wasn't the captain of that team or the emotional leader and honestly wasn't particularly needed in the Ducks dressing room. Also, was he called back on to the ice to receive it? I'm curious how the timing worked out. Did Anaheim stay on the ice to thank their home fans? Probably.
He did alright. He is still a young man and has a lot to learn. This is something he will learn from.
Just remember he was not only physically exhausted but emotionally. I've never experienced it myself, but the cup run to a game 7 final is a long day by day road.
Panther fan here. I have no problem with CM’s refusal….! As team captain, his leadership and presence was needed elsewhere.
This is funny because Gigeure said after he won the con smythe he said he hated it. Said that it was terrible walking back into the room where the guys are just so down and licking their wounds.
he won with the ducks 4 years later
I can see both sides of it. In my opinion, he should have accepted the award, but in this case, they took for freakin ever to announce it. Nobody wants to stay out there that long after getting their heart ripped out of their chest.
Had they announced it in a timely fashion, he should've absolutely accepted it. In this case, i don't blame him.
Even as childern, everyone would wait for awards on the ice lol.
McDavid was inspired by Lias Andersson, he threw the Conn Smythe into the crowd😂
Personally, i dont agree with not accepting it, but im not angry/upset about it. Should he have accepted it, absolutely. Does it hurt his image as a player, id say a little yeah. But more so in the sportmanship department than anything else. Its called losing with grace and being a good sport. That being said, on the flip side, i do think they took way too damn long to announce the winner of the trophy and that it wasnt exactly intentional on his part to not accept it. If he had stayed on the ice for the award, and THEN didnt accept it, i think that would be a better reason to be up in arms over it
McDavid should have been embarrassed to have gotten that award he had no business winning. 8 goals all playoffs, at least one an empty netter. A guy on his own team had twice as many goals. His team lost. 0 points in games 6 and 7. Completely invisible until game 3 when his team was already down 2-0 in the series and 4-0 in the game. It's an absolute joke. Makes a mockery of the award. I now hope he never wins a Cup. Let him be Conn Smythe winner McDavid forever, w no Cups. It cheapens the accomplishment for all the guys who accomplished it and earned it legitimately. They just gave it to him bc he's such a star and they knew this may be their only opportunity to put this award on him, so they jumped at the chance. Pathetic.
Lol
McDavid was tag team every team he drives up, it’s not his fault his teammates can’t convert on his passes. You can clearly see how much pressure he has every time he drives. Our defense was awful that Game 7. He had 43 points in playoffs. That is ridiculous in this modern playoffs fyi!!!
Bad take
@@papigaming1198agreed
Lol you are drunk buddy
Didn't Gigere win the Conn Smythe on home ice? It's easier to accept an award when you are not being booed at
Nah, it was in Jersey for game 7. Jersey was the #2 seeded team from the East, Anaheim was the #7 seeded team from the west. And he definitely got booed when he went to accept it
Wrong, you know google is a thing?
@@Michael-ir8zs sorry I guess
So because he accepted the award, everyone should?
Interesting fact: game 7 FO% MacDavid 30, Barkov 83,3
Are you trying to insinuate that barkov is better than mcdavid?
As I mentioned in another video, I think the way Conn Smythe is presented needs to be changed in order to avoid this kind of very awkward situation: either you present it at a later day such as during the NHL Award Show, or you limit it to considering only players from the winning team.
That crowd wanted nothing to do with mcdavid
Where is the actual interview?
People were booing Gary Bettman, not any player.
Jsg also almost completely shut out a team, I believe it was Minnesota, for an entire series games 1-3 finally scored on in game 4 but still swept the series
Maybe David thought he did not deserve it and thought a Florida player should have won it
Hes the Captain, his place is in the dressing room with HIS team...especially after a crushing defeat...if he was not wearing a C it MAY be a different story.
He sacrificed what little validation could be gained in front of a foreign crowd to spend time with his mates and lose AS A TEAM. Class Act.
Mcdavid was there for the Stanley Cup and not for some conciliation prize.
To be honest, I don't know if a guy that gets shut out five of seven games in the final's deserves the trophy. as far as not accepting, don't blame him. It's just salt in the wounds.
McDavid could have taken the high road and used it for fuel for next season. A ton of oilers fans there in Florida deserved at least that.
Exactly.
You know it wasnt right for him to not come out when his own parents were clearly disappointed.
Before Bettman they just announced the Conn Smythe over the PA . There was no big presentation.
Uh Hextall had his presented off ice. But Bettman was NOT the commisioner so class was a thing back then and not it is all about Bettman getting his 15 seconds.
McDavid was probably looking after his own team...have no problem with what he did.
McDavid on winning the Conn Smyth, its an honor... i guess
He was already in the locker room hurtin. Let him hurt. I didn’t see it as disrespect.
I would like to know when he knew that he's got the award. Would he have done the same thing if he was told that he after the handshake line that he got the award
Well at least they didn't give him a chance to disrespect it like a Canadian girl winning a silver.
He didn't deserve it in the first place Bob did.
Its just dumb giving it to someone on the losing team, that's it.
Disagree with JS Guigere here. I think McDavid had every right to stay in the lockerroom after a heartbreaking defeat. He shook hands with the opposing team, which is the only duty of a losing player and that’s more than enough
First of all my four cents in on all of this
For the OILERS to have lost after having been down three games to nothing then miraculously making a comeback by beating Florida 8 to 1 then in the subsequent two games 5 to 3 and 5 to 1 I saw that smirk on betteman s face
Just like I stated in earlier comments unfortunately the the game of hockey in the last several years has gone the way of professional horse racing and baseball it is rigged now
And finally I'm glad those great white sharks had enough common sense dnd did not make the mistake of gobbling up kachukk they would have had lifelong acid reflux and indigestion problems for the rest of their lives
And as far as McDavid is concerned I don't blame him for wanting to make a fast exit the poor man was simply trying to take advantage of that new McDonald's $5 meal deal can't blame him
If the nhl had respect they would have given it before edmonton left the ice. This is on the nhl not mcdavid. Giguere was still on the ice with his team.
JUST my four cents in on all this.
First of all I don't blame Mr MCDavid. He simply wanted a fast exit to take advantage of that new McDonald's five dollar meal deal. Good for him
Secondly for the OILERS to have lost after they gained momentum after after having been down three games to nothing then going back to Florida beating the Panthers 8 to 1 then the two subsequent games 5 to 3:and 5 to 1 respectively and to lose hoisting the Stanley cup due to a fluke goal from Florida I don't think so
LIKE I've stated in earlier vomnents hockey gas gone thf way if professional jirde rdcung and baseball it id rigged now as if thr kadt several years. And unlike before when I debunked the Gary betteman hates Canada conspiracy theories I saw that smirk.
And plus channel five News here in ca judt reported kachukk went swimming in the ocean dith gge vup. Thank God thf Great White's had enough sense not to have gobbled him up as they would have had lifelong acid reflux and indigestion problems for the rest of their lives
McDavid didn't get giggy with it!
Former oilers Maroon and Justin Shultz got their names on the cup before McDavid that’s 🤯
Because Stanley Cup titles are a team stat not a player one
there are hall of famers that never won it, but every team that did had 3rd and 4th liners
He was just sad. Who keeps making such a big deal about this?
I actually hate mcdavid for other reasons which I won't get into. But come on who cares ,who would really feel like doing that at that moment when ur almost crying.award him later,get some pictures..I could care less if it accepted it or not it's nothing anyone can judge him on..I think I would do the same.
For the final time, Mcdavid is not the GOAT. Not even in the top 10 all time. He isn't even the greatest Oiler of all time. He is 3rd or 4th on the Oiler all time list. Wake me up when he get over 200 points a season (5 times)
Players can get very superstitious. It would be better to retire and not win the Stanley cup by not touching it then to touch and fell horible by saying to yourself that maybe if u did not touch it, u would of wone. Im sure Connor is that type of guy. Gyger can’t really say anything beacause he wone the Stanley cup and did not have to go through all that pain wile mcdavid could maybe not win it
But was he in his home rink
Game 7 was in New Jersey
2003 was the last year where the home team wore the white jersey.
Mc Saviour doesn t accept Conn solation prizes !
Maybe the sport isn’t bigger than any of its parts.
Me thinks JS is wrong here
Firstly the NHL does not have the full rights to the game of hockey.
Secondly In Old times the league was a collection of teams that come together in an organized fashion, not a central authority for teams to act as employees to the league.
Dude get this garbage out of here. The conn smythe is a trophy based almost entirely on individual performance, mcdavid does not care one bit about those individual trophies he wants the big one for the team. So what he didn’t come out to accept it he was probably too busy being a team captain in the lockerroom after the game. Everyone get your panties out of a knot ffs
Also even if he didn't go for the photo, he's still the one that deserves the Conn Smythe.
Agree with Giguere. McDavid showed disrespect to the Conn Smythe and is not setting a good example as the league's SUPERSTAR lol. Sets the precedent of Conn Smythe winners of losing teams not accepting the trophy going forward which is a terrible look for the NHL. Go accept the damn thing and cement your legacy by winning the cup the next year.
You've obviously never played competitive hockey before I can just tell by your statement
Hockey players are traditional
The conn Smythe goes to the best player out of the winning team. Did the Oilers win the cup? That's why he rejected it.
@@stenco-eh1hd Incorrect.
If the NHL had a pulse on how humans work, they would hand out the Conn Smythe at a different time, what a dumb idea "Here's your loser trophy in front of a crowd booing you, get out here and take a meme-worthy photo"
Dude I played competitive hockey for 10 years. Have you played at a high level? No? Then shut up. It is correct. Hockey players are superstitious and traditional. If we don't win the championship....we don't feel like we deserve winning the MVP of the tournament. Now sit down clown
Misery loves company
Go back and watch the interviews with JS Giguere and Ron Hextall when they won the Conn Smythe in losing efforts. Yeah they were both crying, upset and couldn't give a sh@t about the award but they still put on their big-boy pants, came out and accepted the award. It's called being a professional
i have no issue with disrespecting the nhl which is still in the bush league category. who he did disrespect was all the conn smythe winners who's team didn't win in the final and they were man enough to accept the award when they probably didn't want to be there. it was like he was critical of them for accepting the award. that's what separates mc david from the elite players his name has been associated with like orr, howe, grets, lemieux, crosby. no class.
He didn't want to take away from the Florida Panthers winning the Stanley Cup, he's aware of how much people talk about him and he wanted the moment to be about the other team winning and not a moment about him. I love his leadership qualities.
Leaders take there lumps, this was just disrespectful and shows no class.
I'll remember that when you win it.
@orangelab6846 if I won I'd have a pair and go out on the ice but then again I'm not an oiler. It would be hard going out In public anywhere with that jersey on lol
@@kingtim420 you hate him, cuz you ain't him. Jealousy is an ugly thing. Have fun watching.
@orangelab6846 lol watching what and hate who? I dont hate him I think he's a great player and missed the chance to show off some class. Coiler fans are so dumb lol
Coiler fans get so butt hurt every time they hear something they don't like about mcmuffin lol
It is difficult to say without actually being in the situation but were I Connor McDavid I would do the same thing.
Honestly they should just give the conn smythe to a player on the winning team
No worries Ducks win the Cup with Giggy in 2007 🎉
McBaby or McChoke cant handle simple pressure and crying
or maybe he could have already taken off his equipment. it was annouced 7 minutes after he got off the ice
This guy Mc David is a true looser ...He disrespected NHL decision. HE disrespected Conn Smythe and Toronto Maple Leafs . He acted like a cry baby in diapers... He insulated Edmonton Oilers fans who spent their money to watch game 7...
Atleast he could have man up and accept the Trophy and thanked all the Oiler fans in the stadium who came to support them.
Instead he went and hid in the locker room.
This is how people behave when they make too much MONEY and think they are Hockey God's
McDavid is just a baby. He totally choked in the most Important game of the year. He is no Gretzky that is for sure