Leafs Acquire Tanev, Sabres Officially Buying out Skinner, Do Leafs Qualify Liljegren?
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- Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
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You're right.. Thompson still doing the autographs shows his character.. something tells me... that's a bigger loss to the Knights than his play.. Also shows he knows that the fans are most important.. Kudos to him just don't seem enough...
Always a stud on and off the ice. Logan will be an instant fan favorite in Washington.
Didnt a major card company pay him to sign those autos in advance?
If someone paid him to sign and he did not do it that would make his character look worse.
He requested a trade to be fair. Not much Vegas could have done.
if somebody was willing to pay me a ton of money to scribble my name on a picture or a jersey, I would show up too. sadly, they’re not🙁
good luck to thompson in wsh
Wish some Canadian teams grabbed him as a 1b (30-40 games). He has potential doesn't he?
Ain’t no way Dallas was gonna sign him to a 4+ year deal like what the Toronto rumors say, loved him in Dallas and we’ll miss him but that is just too much.
Brad Treliving still loves Tanev from his Calgary days!
He wants to reunite the family!!! 😂😂
Agreed
Plus there's 'playing' on the LTIR.
To be fair, is it against the rules to sign him to something absurd like an 8 year deal at a good number, but low cap hit. Then pay in bonuses, so by year 4 all he is making is league min. If it makes the cap hit 2mil I would do it
@@kylet6356Probably isn’t against the rules. Stamkos is turning it down but Tampa is offering a deal in the same idea. Super long term with expectations that he’ll be LTIR for the last few years.
Tanev is definitely going to become the next member of Robidas island
Technically Pronger island, since Robidas Island is about stashing cap in the minors; he's going to play until LTIRetirement.
Lol
You are forgetting about all of the leadership qualities that Tanev brings.
He’s going to be mayor of Robidas Island.
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I guess the Stars made this move because they didn't believe they would resign Tanev. Smart move then. Get something for him before he hits free agency on Monday.
As a Dallas fan, I am happy they know ahead of July 1st so they can move their attention to other players.
End of an error for Skinner and Buffalo. Contract was ridiculous even when he was good
I still think it was a mistake to buy him out though. He played like a $5 million player last year, and better the 2 years before that. By the time you replace that production, you've only broken even. Better I think to give it one more year and reassess.
@@kurtwpg
Peterka and J. Quinn replace that production and it's time to give certain Amerks their minutes.
Buffalo had a small taste of success when Skinner had that great season. I feel like Sabres fans would've rioted if they let him walk given the narrative of the time that nobody wanted to play in Buffalo. Still think it was the wrong move but I get the desperation.
I feel bad for Buff fans and players even as a sharks fan.
@@GizmoBeach Bruh, Quinn can’t stay healthy… and Amerks????? These “kids” are not going to get us to the playoffs. Relying on youth and waiting for them to do something has cost us dearly.
Tanev, OEL, Zadorov.... The Leafs Dcore is going to look like the Vancouver departure board!
Ikr. My thoughts exactly.😂
And 1/3 of the d-core Calgary had to start the season.
The Toronto Maple ‘Nucks
@@agent00puffball they also have Giordano and TJ Brodie, they're the Calgary Maple Canucks at this point if they sign Zadorov, OEL and Tanev
If Shanahan/Treliving think bringing in Tanev and Zadorov is the answer while keeping the core intact they are doomed
I mean Tanev is the best shut down defenseman in the league right now. Name one free agent that would’ve been a better option.
Reality suggest there is no possible way the Leafs can sign both players.
They have just under 19 million in cap space.
16 of 23 roster spots secured
This will be Tanevs last contact (he's going to want decent money).
Zadorov will easily get 5 plus million per season from someone.
You still have Domi, Bert (what are they worth)?
Definitely need another goalie with Woll's durability issues.
When you start doing the math, the numbers do not add up.
The 'Leafs have a bad Front Office with Treliving and Shanahan. They need a serious infusion of talent on their defensive core. Next season is 58 years since they won the Cup. Worse than the Rangers drought.
lol what.
@@ClayBall-im1km The salary cap is great. Otherwise teams like Toronto with deep pockets could spend money and sign who they want. The cap really levels the playing field. I like it.
So relieved Nill didn't just make Tanev the new Suter for 7 years.
yea. thats an underrated non-sign
I am not well right now love ya taner gonna miss you man
good for Dallas... don't need more old defensemen on long contracts
Signing Tanev to anything more than a 2 year deal would be a massive mistake.
Which means the laffs will do it for sure.
I heard 5 years lol
Whatever, he will spend last years of his contract in LTIR.
@@simbeaudoesn’t matter, they’ll just send him to Robidas Island whenever his play falls off.
I swear to God if they sign him for more than 3 years 😂
As a Stars fan this hurts a LOT....hopefully Nill has something up his sleeve because we only have half of a D core currently (given PDB does not trust Lundquist)
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I’m not very happy about it but I’m assuming he has some plan for the defense but they better sign Duchene.
Fingers crossed Matt Roy is the guy. Wouldn't mind 5 years of him.
@@connorking3022 Duch is extended.
Hearing the years he is being offered, glad Dallas is not signing him. Anything beyond four years seems much. Excellent player, but he has struggled to play full 82 game seasons.
Once he reaches his physical limit they will place him on LTIR to get rid of his cap. I still think they shouldn’t offer him that much term though
Because he plays an aggressive, physical style.
I'd rather give 3+ years to a guy who might only play 65 games per and helps my team make a deep run than someone churning out 80 games like clockwork but folds under the slightest hint of pressure.
Keep in mind, Nylander plays on the same team now, and Tanev missed 7 games during the regular season. Nylander didn't miss one.
But guess who actually played more games this year?
@@nolankuffner3573 he doesn't really play aggressive at all. I've literally never seen him throw a big hit.
Anything over 2yrs is too much for Tanev.
Toronto should have had 2 pieces of their top 4 set with Sandin and Liljegren and now both could be gone and they're looking to bring in guys near their mid 30's.... they really bungle prospects.
Jeff Skinner signing cheap or at a reasonable cost could signify the start of a new chapter to his career.
Instead of being seen as a player underperforming his huge contract, he might be seen as one of the missing pieces over performing a much small one.
I might be in the minority compared to what I am seeing online, but I am not personally a fan of getting Tanev UNLESS the contract is reasonable. He's going to be 35, has seen a decline in performance, and IF rumors are true and he gets like a 4 year contract, that'll look bad in the long run. For a team trying to win a Cup, not sure if this is the path they need to be taking.
Chris Tanev or Nikita Zadorov will not get Toronto over the hump. This team needs REAL change🤦🏽♂️
Name two defenseman who are FA’s that can make the change
@@joshuaphiliphinrichs8025 i think he meant the core needs to change 4 players taking over 50 percent of the cap will never win evreything they have changed evrey member but the core 4
Agreed. They need to physically move the city of Toronto to Nevada or Florida.
@@joshuaphiliphinrichs8025 tanev and roy
Maybe not this year but next year when they get rid of Tavares contract theirs gunna be big change. They’ll have 15 mil in cap space opening up once the cap goes up. I still think Toronto is 2 or 3 years away from making a real run for the cup.
Man I love Toronto making the calgary flames blue line from the last 5-6 years. Brodie, Gio, Tanev, and possibly big Z. Just hilarious
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The Leafs blueline has always been its weakness, if we can bulk up back there and get some punishers that can also first-pass it's looking good.
It's funny the Leafs really wanted Tanev, he was their number one hope to put on their D. Meanwhile Utah went and got Sergachev
you think tampa was gonna trade serg to a divisional rival?
@@GG-ng6zmTampa is not stupid. They knew Utah would give them the far better return, and they weren’t trading Sergachev to a contending divisional rival, especially Toronto of all teams.
This is very silly. Utah taking on full AAV 8+ mil very big difference. Tanev at 3-4 mill AAV over 5-6 years. With the understanding hell be on LTIR after 3- 4 years.
Utah is just setting up for the marner trade... serg @ 50% retained....
Whole different dollar amount.
Leafs can enjoy Tanevs probable time on their LTIR
In Leafs terms,
LTIR
Long
Term
Internal
Relationships
It’s possible. Never know when Taney will break.
That's the plan. Sign him for 5 years, but expecting him to play for 3. Leafs have no issue paying a guy millions on LTIR not to play. Most teams aren't willing to do that . Money is no issue for Toronto. I'm OK with it. It's not my money
@@chrisg1556😂 spend away. Blow that budget
@@jcoats5529 You obviously don’t know how LTIR works.
Respect for Thompson, especially when he was asked to take off his Vegas hat he just turned it around. 🔥
I can't believe it wasn't on the board but with Jeff Skinner being bought out, this likely means the end of "between 2 stalls". A devastating loss for hockey fans everywhere.
Whoever assumes that top 6 winger roll for the Sabres will have big skates to fill. Adams might have to make a trade for someone who has exceptional social media skills. Very important. If we're not going to make the playoffs, you had better entertain us!
Wouldn't mind Skinner on the Sens, if they can get him for cheap. He could fill that 2nd line LW spot.
Not the kind of player they need Imo
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You should also mention that Thompson requested a trade. He wanted out and a chance to be a full time starter which Vegas couldn't do.
The Caps will have a goalie competition with Lindgren and Thompson.
Also not mentioned is that Thompson was in the Caps system, played really well for the Stingrays and also attended Caps dev camp multiple years
And Thompson is far less likely to even make the playoffs as a Capital. He'll find out the hard way.
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Holy cow, you called it. Guentzel on the Lighting a day after you suggested the possibility!
McCabe and Zadorov would make a nasty second pairing. Glad to see Tanev on the Leafs.
How do they fit all these stars under the cap?
was trying to find the contract signing for OEL with Toronto. I guess it's just expected but not done yet. Went to a few sits but only found the 1 year with FL for this previous season. Guess that info comes out on July 1st.
any news on Stamkos?
I am getting a bit worried about the Red Wings resigning Raymond and Seider. I have no problem giving both, Dylan Larkin like money. Lets get it done. I thought the Wings had a good draft. Now lets get to signing some free agents or make some trades.
Interesting move to possibly sign 3 high profile defensemen while having 3 lines and 1 goalie signed. Their cap structure will be a marvel to behold if they don't trade someone from the core four.
Thompson wasn’t upset because he asked for a trade. Makes sense now why they moved him with his minimum cap hit. I was scratching my head before I found out he requested a trade. Great guy. Best of luck in Washington
The knights should have never given Hill 4.9 mill a year. I remember after Feb 2024 even many knights fans stopped thinking hill was a #1 which I told them all along.
People talking about bad contracts; Vegas' LTIR albatross, with Robin Lehner. Huge mistake on that one!
@@meddyven LTIR is not bad at all. You get all the cap money back.
Morgan Rielly has the most friendly contract, unfortunately, no move, no trade !
The reason Marner is staying and Berube is being complimentary is two-fold: Marner has a NMC and Matthews told management he wants Marner on the team.
Classy move by Thompson for sure
Applause 👏 for Thompson
In an alternative timeline... It was NHL 15 maybe- Liljegren was in the game but a couple years out. In my longest ever running NHL Be a GM save, it went on so long that it just flat out started glitching and not working in like 2040 or something. Anyways Liljegren became my Franchise player, along with Ryan Merkley... Demko behind them and lord remembers who was up front. Liljegren and Merkley were both NHL ready out of the draft and neither ever dropped below 91 overall 😂
Look for offersheet from Buffalo. Carolina???
If they can get another defenseman with more upside, I would look at trading Lilijgren .
I like Lilijgren , he is a decent 5 or 6
I hope he goes to market and gives the Canucks a huge discount on a short term deal. Tanev and Pesce or Dillon would be great.
LT wants a chance to be a starter. We will miss him in Vegas, even more than I will miss Skinner’s Between Two Ferns.
I have a feeling the Oilers will grab Skinner for cheap. A 20 goal depth scorer is what they need for more depth.
Skinner 1 and Skinner 2. Lol.
I’m hoping Vancouver goes after him, they could get him and possibly another middle 6 winger
Can Tanev decide to not sign with the Leafs? Or were his rights traded because there's an agreement that he will sign with the Leafs?
So far, only his rights were traded. But why would the Leafs make this trade not to sign him??
No conversations were had before the trade, but it sounds like a deal has likely been reached.
They only have his rights until tomorrow and his agent say that he wasn't in contact with Toronto. So no deal made before the trade, it's just for a chance to negotiate first with Tanev.
According to his family in Toronto, it's a done deal. He's a Leaf.
@@TheHockeyGuycertainly sounds like an oxymoron, doesnt it
With the Skinner buyout Adams better use the extra cap room to sign some veteran forwards!
And a veteran stay at home defenseman in the 28-32 y/o range with playoff experience. Anybody out there that matches that criteria? Would such a player come to Buffalo for anything other than major $$$$$$?
Quick question, when you trade for the right of a player, is that either to sign him to 8 years extension (which is not the case, not that I think leafs would do that), or to initiate contract negotiation a few days earlier?
Just a Red Wings fan sitting here praying I don't get a "Detroit Acquires Trouba" video in my feed, don't mind me...
I'd be pretty frustrated if they make Liljegren walk out the door for nothing. He's a solid top 6 defenseman and still fairly young.
Leafs fans are very hard on their players. Liljegren has played to his his contract an more. Gee, Liljegren plays 17 minutes a game, so it's not like he's a detriment on the team.
Just some context since everyone is jumping on Vegas for this trade - Thompson confirmed that requested the trade and Kelly McCrimmon informed him personally this morning that they got it done before he left for the Sphere.
I'm starting to wonder if Buffalo might be trying to get Stamkos away from Tampa. Would it take a similar contract that Skinner had to land him there?
Can’t wait to see the new Toronto Maple Canucks.
Can you do a video on buyouts and how they affect a players salary? For example, did OEL get all the money he would have made in Vancouver and the money from the Florida contract last season?
Caps have a Lefty Tandem now!
Shannon, Carolina has been very quiet, with Guentzel, Pesce and Necas situations. No trades as of yet, other than trade with Blackhawks for late 1st round pick. Are they working through the night, tying to get things done???
I would love to see Zadorov in Toronto. Tanev, Zadorov, Edmunson, Benoît, Mcabe and Ilya!
Thats a punishing D core... guys might still score on us, but it will hurt
Older D men do fine. You seen how well Brent Burns has been playing in Raleigh?
How deep did Carolina go in the playoffs?
Burns has had a relatively injury free career compared to Tanev though. Different amount of miles and style of play hit players differently.
Would love to see Dallas go after Matt Roy now.
Or Montour
😮💨 was hoping that Chris tanev sign with the Blackhawks
Tanevs gonna set the market for RD. Cuz right now 6-7 is the range for Pesce so that will be the start of all the top RD(tanev,pesce,Roy and montour) Devils need to be smart with their cap but its looking like this is the go all in year. Leafs and Devils will be paying alot for Dmen 12m+ for 2 dmen is not ideal
Good move by Dallas.
Thompson REQUESTED a trade.
I can only imagine what kind of Toronto would be if they could have somehow landed Sergachiev
Come on. That’s a huge stretch to think the Berube quote means anything. Until he’s not, Marner is on the roster. You think he’s going to devalue an asset by insulting him? And Marner might not waive, he might be stuck with him and no reason to sour that relationship in June.
As for Tanev…who cares? Get the most out of Tanev as possible and then they can LTRetire him for the rest of his contract. Literally zero issue.
Doesn’t marner also have a no movement clause?
Hes not going anywhere
Marner, Tavares, Matthews, Nylander, and Reilly all have a NMC. Realistically, the only way you’ll get rid of Tavares is to wait until his contract expires, and Marner will only go when his expires or if by the graces of him and his neck breathing father, waive his NMC. The chances of that are next to zero though.
Skinner to Vancouver? 2nd line?
I have a feeling Edmonton they had interest I heard
I’m hoping for this, I think Vancouver can offer more than Edmonton and still get him at a good cap hit, meanwhile Edmonton has too many other moves to make they can’t go and spend 4.5 on skinner
The part you didn’t discuss is that if the Leaf’s sign Tanev plus one of the other D-men they are chasing, and if they keep Marner, then who goes other than Lilligren? I haven’t crunched the numbers but I with 2 relatively pricey D-men and Marner, I don’t see how they could afford to even keep one of Bertuzi or Domi - and they need at least one of them.
Tanev is a solid D option, but my hope is 4 years tops. I know it's likely 7 years, but that's going to be an anchor after 4 years (unless he ends up on LTIR). Regarding Liljegren, he's had plenty of opportunities to stand out and really hasn't done it. He's not bad, just doesn't live up to the 1st round pick expectations. Seems to be a depth defenseman (5.6) at best.
HA! If Tanev is still healthy next playoffs, OMG. They needed a back end that weren't all puck-moving speedsters a la 1st-round exit. They moved away from that last year, owning their own corners and crease more, now they have the stud D man they've needed for years, imho. When the Refs pocket the whistles in the playoffs, the Leafs can actually handle it. If Tanev is still healthy? Lot of question marks and fingers crossed in Leaf land, Imho.😉
Laughers made people laugh again ! Tanev seriously 😮
The one player I would pay for the most in Buffalo is called bucket of wings .
Hopefully skinner gets to finally play a playoff game.
So Tanev. Is this THE shot over the Marner camp? No matter what Mitch you're on the move?
Second time my daughter's birthday is on day two of the draft, see if anyone works out to be better than advertised.
I agree with you , but he has a lot of miles on him. I would not go any longer than a 4 yr deal at $4.25 mill for Tanev. Warren Foegele is a 28-year-old left winger, would look nice in a Leaf Jersey!
I will miss the between 2 Stalls with Skinner.
Same here. :(
Kudos to him…… but don’t they get paid to go to those signings / appearances?
Sucks but probably for the best. Just have to wonder what the defence is gonna look like with Heiskanen and Lindell the only ones signed.
Sad dallas couldn't get a deal done with tanev
Chris Tanev: The next chosen one to save the Leafs! Now let’s sign his brother Brandon!!!
I liked Tanev in Pittsburgh. I think his work ethic would do wonders for a team like Toronta
@@mrLabear I was being funny with the initial post, but I loved Brandon Tanev in Pittsburgh. So, in all seriousness, I wouldn’t mind him coming to Toronto if he was given in a fair hockey trade
You'll need to trade for him.
@@dreamwarriordiary5339 I get that! Lol. I was clearly being humorous!
@@samuelfrick3475 he’s a very underrated player it would be worth it
Not to worried if Liligren goes. Especially if they are successful at adding another piece other than Tanev. I have liked him but he has been in the league long enough now you would expect more consistency from him. Everytime he starts to get into a good grove he seems to get injured.
Think Dubas would've done this?
It’s not going to work, one playoff series win with those four forwards and what will this be eight times the charm or something?
McCrimmon confirmed that Thompson requested to be traded, so thats why he was pretty ok to continue doing the signing
Thompson could not understand why he was demoted for backup level Hill.
I suspect that the Leafs are not going to qualify Liljegren with the hopes of retaining him at a lower number. He would be wise to chase his bag
Tanev and Zadorov? Looks like Brad's trying to get his boys back.
LETS GOOOO. Zadorov next?
Pesce would be more ideal.... another Right shot.....Talented
@@MySundin13 Pesce is most likely going to jersey. Zadorov wanted to come to Toronto, Calgary just wasn’t willing to make any deals with Toronto which is why we didn’t end up getting Tanev either
Where in the hell are the aves in all of these trades
Why do so many have to shoot thoughts out from Toronto? Wendel is the model.
Not to worried about the term with Tanev. The last couple of years of this contract will be buried on LTIR.
I would have thought that trading and signing tanev and also going after other defensemen would have made it certain that marner gets traded. I mean the cap isn’t going up by that much.
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Tanev, Zadorov, and OEL? Is there a former Canucks D-Man that Toronto isn’t interested in?
Roman Polack perhaps
Thompson asked to be traded, wants a crack at being a starter amd VGK coaches seem to have decided that Hill is the guy. Thompson's in the last year of a basically leauge min. contract and if he plays well then the more he plays the more he can look for in his next deal.
Dont do it Chris! Dont play for the bad guys... good time to. Retire..
Part of me still thinks Darnell nurse can be convinced to waive his no trade clause and he would be willing to go somewhere else for less money just to find peace of mind and a fresh start. And oilers would likely have to eat some salary. Darnell is from Hamilton. Anyone with thoughts on where he might wanna play, who might take him and for how much? Would it take a 3 team deal like what dubas did with San Jose to make it happen?
Please give Liljegren a QO!!! But that said he hasn't earned anything above his current salary wrt the cap.